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January 31, 2023, 05:22:01 PM
I mean magic is an under 40% win rate team, I am not saying that they are not going to win any games, it is obvious that they won nearly 40% of their games so it's definitely possible for them to win and I am not arguing against that.

But the fact is that we are talking about a team that is third from bottom in the eastern conference, we are not talking about a good team here and them losing is common too. Sure, you could give it a go and bet on them and you will win roughly around 40% of those bets so if you arrange it accordingly maybe you will get a profit, I know I do that with Lakers, but at the end of the day they are not "secretly good" or something like that, if they were, they wouldn't be at the bottom.
I guess it's because of the number of times that I lose my bet whenever it's up against the Orlando Magic that's why the next time I may want to try doing it and vice versa and take the risk. If you cannot beat them, join them. Yeah, I know they are one of the bottom teams but the next three teams upstairs are not really that far yet. 3 GB.
Good luck to you, Magic will be playing the 76ers again, just one day rest and they'll play again at the same venue. Not sure if Embiid will play but even if Embiid will play, Magic still has a chance to win, or if the 76ers will defeat them, at least they'll cover the spread because they have the momentum.
I may need that luck.  Grin The line is not yet out so there's still time to think. Philly might want revenge in their next game so that's another factor to consider before game time.
LeBron is now just 117 points away from breaking Kareem’s all time scoring record. This is one of the most coveted records in professional sports and will be a big deal when it happens. You can watch him in action tonight as he chases history as the Lakers play the Knicks on TNT. It’s coming down to the wire. Probably only 4 or 5 more games until he breaks the record…
It's taking longer because of the ankle injury and now he is questionable to play again. Or they are arranging the record to happen in their home game. Who knows, that's three more games if he score's 40 per game. 4 games if not forced, play now and make it happen in LA.
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January 31, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Things may not be going well at the Clippers. One of the teams that played the games with the lowest average score in the league in the first quarters. They are on the verge of losing the game in the first quarter. They are ranked 28th in this category out of 30 teams. But the interesting thing is that they are also in the 4th place in the ranking of the teams with the lowest first quarter totals. Team of contrasts. That's why I always bet less points from the first quarters in Clippers games. Chicago game is one of them.

Cleveland is doing very well defensively. But lately, the hardness in defense gave way to softness and they turned into a team that scored many points on offense and conceded many points on defense. I'm thinking of placing a bet on the Miami match. Of course the highest number. It is necessary to place such a bet on the match of these two teams, 7 of the last 10 matches are highest number over. Both teams' starting five looks solid and I don't think they will have a hard time finding a score for either team.
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January 31, 2023, 02:23:37 PM
The issue with that referee is beyond my comprehension. However, that was a truly poor call. Anyhow, I believe penalties are also handed out to referees, likely by their own NBA referees association. Obviously, bad calls have obvious consequences. Punishments maybe less games are officiated by referees with poor reputations. We have never heard of suspensions or even expulsions from the NBA because they are not reported in the media.

I found what happened to be unusual. In the past, I have become accustomed to reading, hearing, and seeing controversial decisions that are always in favor of the Lakers. When it comes to biased refereeing, they have the most memes out of all NBA teams.

The management will certainly do something about it as it has already affected the reputation of the league, they don't want to make people think that the league is rigged, so in order to retain that confidence, they will certainly make a serious penalty to the referees who miss calling a foul on that clear foul.

There are already plenty of speculation in the past that refs are manipulating the game, if you are familiar with Tim Donaghy, you will understand that NBA is not clean.

Yes, Tim was also involved in a controversy before because the FBI found out that he also bet in some NBA games, including those games he officiated, so that’s clearly making the league rigged. However, with this another controversy on hand, which I believed has started to ruin the reputation of NBA as news have spread fast online, then the NBA Management should do some actions that will resolved this scandal and will put this controversy at peace. And might as well penalized the referee that has caused this mess.

Tim's situation is somehow different from Eric Lewis because Tim has found guilty beyond unreasonable doubt for betting and getting the games rigged in which he officiated but the latter's situation is somehow different too because Lewis is just an avid fanatic of the Boston Celtics including his family (which by now I guess you guys already saw the circulating memes about their family wearing the same jersey), and that's not it, people managed to get through the lines and found out that the Celtics somehow got some helped whenever Lewis was officiating. I think as of now they are already investigating about this matter to found out if Eric is also abetting towards the games he officiated.
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January 31, 2023, 02:10:33 PM
The problem with refs making a mistake like that is the fact that nothing really changes. I have been watching NBA for over 20 years and seen them make a lot of mistakes, either in important situations or even in not so important situations, the time Tim Duncan got ejected for laughing is still in my mind, there was something done about that eventually though.

However, the thing about the current situation is that, if you do not fine the refs and suspend them for a long period of time for making such a game deciding mistake, then what is stopping them from doing it again? Or another one doing it? That is why refs needs to be held accountable a lot more, and we need a lot more refs to replace them if they make a mistake.

I really couldn't agree more with you about this sentiment. These refs should be held accountable for their mistakes so that they will refrain from doing such things and start to get disciplined to only call an action that is needed, and I believe their work got easier because of the Replay Center. Some referees are already old, and I am certainly inclined that there's a long line of queue in their line of work.
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January 31, 2023, 02:03:20 PM
I mean magic is an under 40% win rate team, I am not saying that they are not going to win any games, it is obvious that they won nearly 40% of their games so it's definitely possible for them to win and I am not arguing against that.

But the fact is that we are talking about a team that is third from bottom in the eastern conference, we are not talking about a good team here and them losing is common too. Sure, you could give it a go and bet on them and you will win roughly around 40% of those bets so if you arrange it accordingly maybe you will get a profit, I know I do that with Lakers, but at the end of the day they are not "secretly good" or something like that, if they were, they wouldn't be at the bottom.
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January 31, 2023, 11:38:49 AM
Do you guys think that Orlando Magic can make playoffs this Season? Or least play in tournament? They played well in their last game with the 76ers!
They are not that far from the 8th rank of the Eastern conference which is the Atlanta Hawks. 5 games back, it is still reachable and we have lots of games remaining before the season ends. This is the reason why they are playing harder every game. I think they can reach the play-in tournament if they can keep this kind of energy especially defeating teams like 76ers or other strong teams.
After this one, it will 76ers again at the same arena, I doubt they will give it to them again, Embiid will make sure they will win this time.
But after that it may be an easy road, Timberwolves and Hornets. They better steal those games from them and then back at home with more energy against the Knicks.
Yes, but the East is pretty much stack up as well, and they need to make a string of consecutive wins to be able to get a good spot. The problem with them is that they can beat anyone in the league any given night, but then they can't produce winning runs. They are like the Wolves, now their winning streak has been snap and we don't know if they can continue or not. But as far as betting, they are good to put money is because they can pull this kind of upsets. And most likely, Banchero will win the ROY as least with the way he is playing right now with the Magic.

In terms of betting especially if you'll going to take the handicap for them, they mostly covering it and if you have the kind of strong nerve taking the ML the profits is surely  decent,  like you said, they can win games without a doubt but they need to be consistent and they need to continue  chasing it. I go with you with Banchero  winning  ROY with the way he impacted the team.
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January 31, 2023, 10:09:28 AM
LeBron is now just 117 points away from breaking Kareem’s all time scoring record. This is one of the most coveted records in professional sports and will be a big deal when it happens. You can watch him in action tonight as he chases history as the Lakers play the Knicks on TNT. It’s coming down to the wire. Probably only 4 or 5 more games until he breaks the record…
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January 31, 2023, 09:49:08 AM
Do you guys think that Orlando Magic can make playoffs this Season? Or least play in tournament? They played well in their last game with the 76ers!
They are not that far from the 8th rank of the Eastern conference which is the Atlanta Hawks. 5 games back, it is still reachable and we have lots of games remaining before the season ends. This is the reason why they are playing harder every game. I think they can reach the play-in tournament if they can keep this kind of energy especially defeating teams like 76ers or other strong teams.
After this one, it will 76ers again at the same arena, I doubt they will give it to them again, Embiid will make sure they will win this time.
But after that it may be an easy road, Timberwolves and Hornets. They better steal those games from them and then back at home with more energy against the Knicks.
Yes, but the East is pretty much stack up as well, and they need to make a string of consecutive wins to be able to get a good spot. The problem with them is that they can beat anyone in the league any given night, but then they can't produce winning runs. They are like the Wolves, now their winning streak has been snap and we don't know if they can continue or not. But as far as betting, they are good to put money is because they can pull this kind of upsets. And most likely, Banchero will win the ROY as least with the way he is playing right now with the Magic.
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January 31, 2023, 08:07:14 AM
Magic is a big surprise this season, they may not be consistent in winning but what's important is they are winning and beating good teams like the 76ers. Thing is, we only think they are a weak team because they are undervalued by the bookies making them heavy underdog in the betting odds.
That is true. Those who are courageous enough to take the risks at betting for them will find themselves a big winners today. I am not, I chose the 76ers over them even though I know Joel Embiid might not play, I should've taken that +10.5 for the Magic instead of the -9.5 for the 76ers.
Well, it's not new that they upset teams, it's just inconsistent. Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner are the only players there that are consistent enough to keep the game close even against opponents like the 76ers. But when someone stepped up his game on their bench like today Mo Wagner, they will have a higher chance to win.
They will always be the underdog except when their opponents are Houston, Spurs, and Pistons. I would probably try next time to bet for the Magic.



Good luck to you, Magic will be playing the 76ers again, just one day rest and they'll play again at the same venue. Not sure if Embiid will play but even if Embiid will play, Magic still has a chance to win, or if the 76ers will defeat them, at least they'll cover the spread because they have the momentum.

Yeah right, they are the underdog, but they just not cover the handicap, but they win and those who bet for them today are really enjoying
that huge amount of winning, Me as well, I didn't expect that they will win.

In the impression that Sixers squad is heavier with that complete lineup and with how both Embiid and Harden are performing.

It's really a sweet win for the number 1 rookie and the rest of the Magic squad.
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January 31, 2023, 07:15:05 AM
Dončić almost played alone and made 53 points. This is the fourth time he scored 50+ this season. He's an incredible player. Mavericks beat the worst team in the NBA and he had to play for 36 minutes though. Normally Mavs should've won this game with an early lead and he should've sit in the bench for last quarter but they had to make extra effort to win the game. Mavs doesn't look too strong to me, they need to do better to get a good spot in West.

They really need to consider looking for a way to help him because he can't really be like this all the time, they are shortening his NBA lifespan because of fatigue and injuries. Star players also need some rest in order to be fresh in their next games and they are still not in the NBA playoffs which is really alarming for them because once he will hurt himself, then that would be the end for them because no one after him in the team to rely on.
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January 31, 2023, 07:14:53 AM
Magic is a big surprise this season, they may not be consistent in winning but what's important is they are winning and beating good teams like the 76ers. Thing is, we only think they are a weak team because they are undervalued by the bookies making them heavy underdog in the betting odds.
That is true. Those who are courageous enough to take the risks at betting for them will find themselves a big winners today. I am not, I chose the 76ers over them even though I know Joel Embiid might not play, I should've taken that +10.5 for the Magic instead of the -9.5 for the 76ers.
Well, it's not new that they upset teams, it's just inconsistent. Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner are the only players there that are consistent enough to keep the game close even against opponents like the 76ers. But when someone stepped up his game on their bench like today Mo Wagner, they will have a higher chance to win.
They will always be the underdog except when their opponents are Houston, Spurs, and Pistons. I would probably try next time to bet for the Magic.



Good luck to you, Magic will be playing the 76ers again, just one day rest and they'll play again at the same venue. Not sure if Embiid will play but even if Embiid will play, Magic still has a chance to win, or if the 76ers will defeat them, at least they'll cover the spread because they have the momentum.
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January 31, 2023, 07:05:11 AM
Magic is a big surprise this season, they may not be consistent in winning but what's important is they are winning and beating good teams like the 76ers. Thing is, we only think they are a weak team because they are undervalued by the bookies making them heavy underdog in the betting odds.
That is true. Those who are courageous enough to take the risks at betting for them will find themselves a big winners today. I am not, I chose the 76ers over them even though I know Joel Embiid might not play, I should've taken that +10.5 for the Magic instead of the -9.5 for the 76ers.
Well, it's not new that they upset teams, it's just inconsistent. Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner are the only players there that are consistent enough to keep the game close even against opponents like the 76ers. But when someone stepped up his game on their bench like today Mo Wagner, they will have a higher chance to win.
They will always be the underdog except when their opponents are Houston, Spurs, and Pistons. I would probably try next time to bet for the Magic.

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January 31, 2023, 06:08:20 AM
Do you guys think that Orlando Magic can make playoffs this Season? Or least play in tournament? They played well in their last game with the 76ers!
They are not that far from the 8th rank of the Eastern conference which is the Atlanta Hawks. 5 games back, it is still reachable and we have lots of games remaining before the season ends. This is the reason why they are playing harder every game. I think they can reach the play-in tournament if they can keep this kind of energy especially defeating teams like 76ers or other strong teams.
After this one, it will 76ers again at the same arena, I doubt they will give it to them again, Embiid will make sure they will win this time.
But after that it may be an easy road, Timberwolves and Hornets. They better steal those games from them and then back at home with more energy against the Knicks.
Magic is a big surprise this season, they may not be consistent in winning but what's important is they are winning and beating good teams like the 76ers. Thing is, we only think they are a weak team because they are undervalued by the bookies making them heavy underdog in the betting odds.
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January 31, 2023, 05:59:49 AM
Do you guys think that Orlando Magic can make playoffs this Season? Or least play in tournament? They played well in their last game with the 76ers!
They are not that far from the 8th rank of the Eastern conference which is the Atlanta Hawks. 5 games back, it is still reachable and we have lots of games remaining before the season ends. This is the reason why they are playing harder every game. I think they can reach the play-in tournament if they can keep this kind of energy especially defeating teams like 76ers or other strong teams.
After this one, it will 76ers again at the same arena, I doubt they will give it to them again, Embiid will make sure they will win this time.
But after that it may be an easy road, Timberwolves and Hornets. They better steal those games from them and then back at home with more energy against the Knicks.
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January 31, 2023, 05:53:16 AM
The problem with refs making a mistake like that is the fact that nothing really changes. I have been watching NBA for over 20 years and seen them make a lot of mistakes, either in important situations or even in not so important situations, the time Tim Duncan got ejected for laughing is still in my mind, there was something done about that eventually though.
How many years this has happened back then? I can't remember this issue but I think I'm already watching NBA during that time as I know Tim Duncan and also the other stars in the Spurs.

However, the thing about the current situation is that, if you do not fine the refs and suspend them for a long period of time for making such a game deciding mistake, then what is stopping them from doing it again? Or another one doing it? That is why refs needs to be held accountable a lot more, and we need a lot more refs to replace them if they make a mistake.
That's what the fans are just waiting for but it seems that things won't go according to the process or is there really a process when a ref has been proven to have some slight miss of his duty?
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January 31, 2023, 05:14:19 AM
Later, it's going to be Nets and Lakers without Lebron and AD.

The outcome of this game was quite predictable. The Lakers couldn't do anything without LeBron and Davis, and as a result, they lost to the Nets by 17 points. However, it should be noted that the Lakers played well in the second and third quarters, and it seemed like they could fight for the win at that point. Unfortunately, they ruined the game for themselves with a disgusting fourth-quarter performance.
It was really to be expected that it will be ending up like that. The game was full of explosion in the threes for the Nets.

Without AD and Lebron, they will really have a hard time but they it was so close! AD was too effective and can do a lot of things under the ring and of course, we know of Lebron.

They were really close with Nets on the 3rd quarter and thought it was their momentum. But then, when it's on the last quarter, everything turned black for the Lakers.



The 4th quarter was the difference maker, the Nets have control already and probably the undermanned Lakers got tired in the game. With Lebron and AD, I think the Lakers would win as they will be unstoppable inside and more unpredictable since they have good outside shooters already.
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January 31, 2023, 04:36:39 AM
Later, it's going to be Nets and Lakers without Lebron and AD.

The outcome of this game was quite predictable. The Lakers couldn't do anything without LeBron and Davis, and as a result, they lost to the Nets by 17 points. However, it should be noted that the Lakers played well in the second and third quarters, and it seemed like they could fight for the win at that point. Unfortunately, they ruined the game for themselves with a disgusting fourth-quarter performance.
It was really to be expected that it will be ending up like that. The game was full of explosion in the threes for the Nets.

Without AD and Lebron, they will really have a hard time but they it was so close! AD was too effective and can do a lot of things under the ring and of course, we know of Lebron.

They were really close with Nets on the 3rd quarter and thought it was their momentum. But then, when it's on the last quarter, everything turned black for the Lakers.

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January 31, 2023, 03:33:15 AM
Dončić almost played alone and made 53 points. This is the fourth time he scored 50+ this season. He's an incredible player. Mavericks beat the worst team in the NBA and he had to play for 36 minutes though. Normally Mavs should've won this game with an early lead and he should've sit in the bench for last quarter but they had to make extra effort to win the game. Mavs doesn't look too strong to me, they need to do better to get a good spot in West.
The battle between the Western Conference teams are very tight.
The 4th seeded Clippers are 7.5 games behind the Nuggets and the 12th seeded Trail Blazers are only 10 games behind the top seeded team. What this mean is that, a streak either a losing or a winning streak will affect the 4th-12th seeded team greatly because all of them are separated only by 2.5 games. That's how tight it is.

As for the Mavericks, I don't see them as a good team as well (at least with their current roster). With Brunson getting traded to the Knicks, the Mavericks doesn't have a reliable 2nd option for offense. Maybe Dinwiddie can because he already did it when Luka hurt his ankle against the Suns, but is he consistent enough to carry the team if Luka got injured (hope it will not happen)? Usage rate of Luka is very high and I hate to say this, but it seems like they are very dependent on Luka. They are currently at the 6th spot, but an injury or a losing streak to the team will put them out of the playoff spot or even the play-in depending on the losing streak that they will get.

Do you guys think that Orlando Magic can make playoffs this Season? Or least play in tournament? They played well in their last game with the 76ers!
One game isn't enough for the team to judge.

This applies to the Magic. I don't see them going into the playoffs and besides, they are a young team. They might have some good achievements this season like defeating the  Sixers tonight and the only team that defeated the Celtics twice this season, but they will not enter the playoffs or even the play-in unless they will make a winning streak of maybe 10 or more.
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January 31, 2023, 03:21:19 AM
Do you guys think that Orlando Magic can make playoffs this Season? Or least play in tournament? They played well in their last game with the 76ers!
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January 31, 2023, 03:17:32 AM
Dončić almost played alone and made 53 points. This is the fourth time he scored 50+ this season. He's an incredible player. Mavericks beat the worst team in the NBA and he had to play for 36 minutes though. Normally Mavs should've won this game with an early lead and he should've sit in the bench for last quarter but they had to make extra effort to win the game. Mavs doesn't look too strong to me, they need to do better to get a good spot in West.

I agree though, it took them and Luka a lot of minutes and points in order to beat a low team. So what's more if they have a game another tougher teams in the East like the Bucks or Celtics, it's going to be very difficult for them.

As much as Luka is a candidate for MVP this season, he is on one of  a weak team and his support and role players are inconsistent.

Even Dinwiddie who thought to be the second option is unpredictable during games. He will get hot in the first hot and then disappear in the second.
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