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January 30, 2023, 07:32:13 AM
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https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704

The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.

Yes, I certainly agree! They said it themselves, "Like everyone else, referees make mistakes". But the question is, are they getting some penalties or some sort of punishment because of the move they did? I guess not and for that, they should evolve for a much better referee so that every game is somehow fair and just.

By the looks of it, it sure looks like the refs made a bet on the Celtics side and the reason why they cheated or rigged the game. Just a thought.

We all know that, we are all human and bound to make mistakes. But as referees, they should at least minimized it or used replay as others  have said. It's really unfair for the team losing in this way, it's not on their hand but with the referees miscalls.

I didn't say specially that there could be referees betting on this game, but the good thing is that I"m not the only one with that mindset.

And so they really have to investigate who officiated this game and see if they have a bet on the other side because that's how it looks like to me at least.
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January 30, 2023, 07:06:24 AM
The head ref admitted they missed a call, however, it was not stated if he was penalized for the huge mistake he did.
NBA head referee admits missed call in Lakers-Celtics game
It would not be hard to penalize them since they already admitted on their mistake. However, I don't think it will result in a dismissal from work, they might be suspended but will just come back to continue their job. Not sure if it's an honest mistake or was intentional, but sure it's hard to convince people that it's an honest mistake.

It's a lesson learned that they have to do their job well, I understand that they are not perfect but you know how upset the Lakers especially Lebron who could have that winning shot.
The public are watching the game, and of course they are well aware of what the refs are doing, we have bettors as well who loss money on that game because of the refs mistake.
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January 30, 2023, 06:36:25 AM
The issue with that referee is beyond my comprehension. However, that was a truly poor call. Anyhow, I believe penalties are also handed out to referees, likely by their own NBA referees association. Obviously, bad calls have obvious consequences. Punishments maybe less games are officiated by referees with poor reputations. We have never heard of suspensions or even expulsions from the NBA because they are not reported in the media.
I found what happened to be unusual. In the past, I have become accustomed to reading, hearing, and seeing controversial decisions that are always in favor of the Lakers. When it comes to biased refereeing, they have the most memes out of all NBA teams.
The management will certainly do something about it as it has already affected the reputation of the league, they don't want to make people think that the league is rigged, so in order to retain that confidence, they will certainly make a serious penalty to the referees who miss calling a foul on that clear foul.
There are already plenty of speculation in the past that refs are manipulating the game, if you are familiar with Tim Donaghy, you will understand that NBA is not clean.

No sports body is actually clean in the world. There are certain types of corruption going on almost everywhere. And it is very easy to think that the referee had some type of money on the line in this match. That's why they made a call like that. But the honest thing is it has already happened and I do not think there is anything that can be done about it. I just hope that there will be a big penalty for the referees so that no one who will officiate any game in NBA is not going to think about doing anything like this.


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The head ref admitted they missed a call, however, it was not stated if he was penalized for the huge mistake he did.
NBA head referee admits missed call in Lakers-Celtics game

It's a lesson learned that they have to do their job well, I understand that they are not perfect but you know how upset the Lakers especially Lebron who could have that winning shot.
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January 30, 2023, 06:29:58 AM
The issue with that referee is beyond my comprehension. However, that was a truly poor call. Anyhow, I believe penalties are also handed out to referees, likely by their own NBA referees association. Obviously, bad calls have obvious consequences. Punishments maybe less games are officiated by referees with poor reputations. We have never heard of suspensions or even expulsions from the NBA because they are not reported in the media.
I found what happened to be unusual. In the past, I have become accustomed to reading, hearing, and seeing controversial decisions that are always in favor of the Lakers. When it comes to biased refereeing, they have the most memes out of all NBA teams.
The management will certainly do something about it as it has already affected the reputation of the league, they don't want to make people think that the league is rigged, so in order to retain that confidence, they will certainly make a serious penalty to the referees who miss calling a foul on that clear foul.
There are already plenty of speculation in the past that refs are manipulating the game, if you are familiar with Tim Donaghy, you will understand that NBA is not clean.

No sports body is actually clean in the world. There are certain types of corruption going on almost everywhere. And it is very easy to think that the referee had some type of money on the line in this match. That's why they made a call like that. But the honest thing is it has already happened and I do not think there is anything that can be done about it. I just hope that there will be a big penalty for the referees so that no one who will officiate any game in NBA is not going to think about doing anything like this.


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January 30, 2023, 06:26:01 AM
And what others have thought:
https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704
The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.
Yes, I certainly agree! They said it themselves, "Like everyone else, referees make mistakes". But the question is, are they getting some penalties or some sort of punishment because of the move they did? I guess not and for that, they should evolve for a much better referee so that every game is somehow fair and just.
By the looks of it, it sure looks like the refs made a bet on the Celtics side and the reason why they cheated or rigged the game. Just a thought.

Regardless of them having placed any type of bet on a certain team, I think they should be punished so that the referees are going to be very careful in the next match. But at the same time, I believe there should be an inquiry to actually find out if the referee actually did rig the game.

Because these types of mistakes generally do not happen in my opinion. But that is also true that they are also human and to err is human. But they have to remember there is a lot of money on the line from these matches.
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January 30, 2023, 05:48:03 AM
The issue with that referee is beyond my comprehension. However, that was a truly poor call. Anyhow, I believe penalties are also handed out to referees, likely by their own NBA referees association. Obviously, bad calls have obvious consequences. Punishments maybe less games are officiated by referees with poor reputations. We have never heard of suspensions or even expulsions from the NBA because they are not reported in the media.

I found what happened to be unusual. In the past, I have become accustomed to reading, hearing, and seeing controversial decisions that are always in favor of the Lakers. When it comes to biased refereeing, they have the most memes out of all NBA teams.

The management will certainly do something about it as it has already affected the reputation of the league, they don't want to make people think that the league is rigged, so in order to retain that confidence, they will certainly make a serious penalty to the referees who miss calling a foul on that clear foul.

There are already plenty of speculation in the past that refs are manipulating the game, if you are familiar with Tim Donaghy, you will understand that NBA is not clean.
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January 30, 2023, 05:27:57 AM
And what others have thought:



https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704

The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.

Yes, I certainly agree! They said it themselves, "Like everyone else, referees make mistakes". But the question is, are they getting some penalties or some sort of punishment because of the move they did? I guess not and for that, they should evolve for a much better referee so that every game is somehow fair and just.

By the looks of it, it sure looks like the refs made a bet on the Celtics side and the reason why they cheated or rigged the game. Just a thought.
The issue with that referee is beyond my comprehension. However, that was a truly poor call. Anyhow, I believe penalties are also handed out to referees, likely by their own NBA referees association. Obviously, bad calls have obvious consequences. Punishments maybe less games are officiated by referees with poor reputations. We have never heard of suspensions or even expulsions from the NBA because they are not reported in the media.

I found what happened to be unusual. In the past, I have become accustomed to reading, hearing, and seeing controversial decisions that are always in favor of the Lakers. When it comes to biased refereeing, they have the most memes out of all NBA teams.
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January 30, 2023, 05:23:41 AM
How about that foul on LeBron last night that cost the Lakers the game because of a no call? Crazy…

Yeah, that no call and then they call a foul on the other end? It looks like the referee is against the Lakers recently with a lot of no and controversial calls against them. They could have won that game in my opinion.

It was kind of heart breaking seeing LeBron like that, I mean that reaction was rare though and he was literally aching by what happened as it happened to them numerous times already. There's a meme circulating right now on the web that the NBA refs cost the Lakers 4 lost and that means, they could've land on the 6th or 7th seed but the refs were against them lately. Moreover, the Replay Center is now fully established, they should work that out in this kind of scenarios.
I really didn't understand how the NBA didn't use Replay Center efficiently before. There have been so many positions like this always and just a fast decision from the replay center could be used immensely for everyone's sake. Well, at least the situation has been acknowledged. This situation made a lot of noise in the basketball community. NBA referees apologized via their official accounts on Twitter, saying, "Referees can make mistakes, just like everyone else. Because of the weight of this decision, we won't be able to sleep at night.". Ok, naturally, they can make mistakes and that is normal. But this is 2023 and there are incredible technologies. An organization like NBA, who make billions of dollars, can just improve these situations. It is really not hard to make referee situation better.

Lebron and AD is, of course, right. But Celtics also didn't do anything wrong and just won fair and square from their side. It wasn't Celtic's fault or Tatum's. Lebron had a story kinda like bullying Tatum. Tatum just played his game, man. It is referee's and NBA's fault. Players and teams should force NBA to develop referee situation from the ground.
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January 30, 2023, 04:49:56 AM
And what others have thought:



https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704

The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.

Yes, I certainly agree! They said it themselves, "Like everyone else, referees make mistakes". But the question is, are they getting some penalties or some sort of punishment because of the move they did? I guess not and for that, they should evolve for a much better referee so that every game is somehow fair and just.

By the looks of it, it sure looks like the refs made a bet on the Celtics side and the reason why they cheated or rigged the game. Just a thought.
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January 30, 2023, 04:38:12 AM
How about that foul on LeBron last night that cost the Lakers the game because of a no call? Crazy…

Yeah, that no call and then they call a foul on the other end? It looks like the referee is against the Lakers recently with a lot of no and controversial calls against them. They could have won that game in my opinion.

It was kind of heart breaking seeing LeBron like that, I mean that reaction was rare though and he was literally aching by what happened as it happened to them numerous times already. There's a meme circulating right now on the web that the NBA refs cost the Lakers 4 lost and that means, they could've land on the 6th or 7th seed but the refs were against them lately. Moreover, the Replay Center is now fully established, they should work that out in this kind of scenarios.

Its a total rob on their side that's why its really unfortunate to see him act like that since that's really steal a suppose to be win to them. Every win on lakers is so important that's why they value each game at the moment and I think NBA should fix this so that referees will be corrected then take out their biases to some teams or players. It seems lakers will not go anywhere this season since luck is not on their side plus referee's call is so tough to them.
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January 30, 2023, 04:34:18 AM
How about that foul on LeBron last night that cost the Lakers the game because of a no call? Crazy…

Yeah, that no call and then they call a foul on the other end? It looks like the referee is against the Lakers recently with a lot of no and controversial calls against them. They could have won that game in my opinion.

It was kind of heart breaking seeing LeBron like that, I mean that reaction was rare though and he was literally aching by what happened as it happened to them numerous times already. There's a meme circulating right now on the web that the NBA refs cost the Lakers 4 lost and that means, they could've land on the 6th or 7th seed but the refs were against them lately. Moreover, the Replay Center is now fully established, they should work that out in this kind of scenarios.
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January 30, 2023, 03:46:04 AM
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That's why I somewhat agree with what AD said in an interview that referees must be fined for these kind of mistakes.
This makes complete sense but a tough call for NBA management to make. Veteran referees makes around $6K per game according to some articles so how do you intend to fine them? Maybe 10% of what they're earning? There is also an argument that it could only cause more drama within the league. I'd expect the National Basketball Referee Association to object to any fine and refuse to officiate any game.

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What happened to that game made me think to check who will officiate the game and review his background before placing a bet hehe.
Reference if interested also https://official.nba.com/referee-assignments/
Maybe depending on the call that they missed. For example, a specific amount will be fined to a referee if they missed a call in the last 2 minutes of the game. I'm not saying that they must fine the referee if they missed a call all throughout the game because that might affect the whole league as a whole. Maybe at least fine those referees who missed calls in the last 2 minutes of the game because that's the crucial part of the game especially if the game is that close like the Lakers-Celtics game. On the other hand, I doubt that they will implement this one, but they might consider it after what happened yesterday.

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Haliburton is the reason why the Pacers are better this season compare to last season so his absence will be felt and the team will be affected by a lot because of him not playing. He's their assist leader, their playmaker and we know how important a point guard is.

On the other hand, the Grizzlies really played well in the 2nd half. They are down as many as 19 in the 1st half, but slowly crawled back on the 2nd half, got the lead and never looked back. Travelling you say? They're not calling it anymore unless it's very very obvious and I don't think the league will do something about it. Travelling, sometimes ball carrying and others are the ones that most referees missed to call.
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January 30, 2023, 03:28:10 AM
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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

Currently, one of the most embarrassing moments caused by the referee, and we consider this incident as there is something in the NBA that even the referee can't help to do anything about it. With this incident, the doubt about NBA being rigged became more apparent and they cannot hide this stuff so fast because it has been spread in social media already and because of how LBJ react to it, they seem to love seeing it with their multiple opinions about it. Let's see what kind of idea they have to implement in the next upcoming games because this incident will cause more than they thought because the fans are now turning to the refs every game and checking carefully about their miscalls and putting it in the internet.
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January 30, 2023, 03:13:25 AM
The Possibility is always there and by the thing, on how Lebron James is playing right now he is like at his prime I think this is because of his goal, he is really eager in getting that and right now he is 158 points away from Kareem Abdul Jabbar's All-time NBA points leader, and I think this is motivating Lebron James to do what he can in getting that record, and I think for Lakers in getting Bronny James I think this will keep Lebron James in getting motivated and giving his son a championship ring, I think what Lebron James needed right now is just motivation and the Lakers will give it to him,
Well, I don't know if LeBron James is in his prime, but I have no doubt that he is living a great moment in his life, because he is going through several important moments, for example, his possible retirement (I believe that maybe in 3 or 5 years he may retire, this is not real, just my assumption), LJ is winning several records, he is also having a not very good time in the Lakers (although he is scoring in several games), and also I have no doubt that he is analyzing and preparing (or at least helping) Bronny to enter the NBA, depending on the situation I have no doubt that LJ will also intend to do everything to get Bryce into the NBA in the future (which in my opinion has had a great evolution recently).

Despite of the controversial play, I do think Lebron James is still living in his prime as he remains as one of those steadiest players in the basketball game. Though we may see lapses on how he play, and some even hate him for that, but let’s us all think that we won’t live our career all in glory, sometimes even the best players in the century became unable to give their best shots. And as for his eldest son, we all know the Bronny James is set to follow his father’s footprints, that’s why Lebron James is also motivating him for that.
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January 30, 2023, 02:48:45 AM
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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

A clear disappointment with how the ref handles the game. A game changing play that we all know that if the ref stands in the right position
they can admit their mistake and correct the outcome of the game.

It can give them a good credibility and respect but they've chosen the wrong decision and make things controversial's, maybe they forget
that social medias can ruin them with how the replays circulate around the web.

Hope not to see a crucial non-call like this, especially that the season is near to next round.
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January 30, 2023, 12:40:08 AM
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In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
I can understand why the ref didn't blew his whistle at that moment but yes it's like one of the instances where they could have stopped the play and review with the help of instant replay. Even Pat Bev wanted to give the refs a hand by bringing a camera but he got a tech for that instead hehe.

Yeah, Pat Bev and guess what the referee gave him, a technical foul,  Grin.

Memphis came back strong after five matches loss streak. Without Haliburton Indiana is just an ordinary team but they played first half good. Memphis took the control of the game in second half though. Jaren Jackson Jr. was the most effective player along with Morant. He looks like a serious candidate for DPOY award. Both players had a great game that Dillon Brooks' poor performance was overshadowed. Another triple-double night for Morant with an impressive 15 assists. Ja Morant will be a great player but his obvious travels that get no calls are disturbing me. I wish refs be more strict on a simple basketball rule. I don't expect them to call every travel like European basketball but some obvious travels that they don't call turns people off from watching the match.

They are at home so I don't expect them to lose, but they took it easy in the first quarter and the Pacers take advantage of it. But in the second half it was all Memphis, after they tied the score at 78, Pacers did try to make a comeback. Memphis can't be denied because of Jackson Jr and then Ja Morant as well. Yeah, just very uncanny of Brooks to be playing bad at home, but at least they got the win and that's what important because they didn't win any at the road.
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January 29, 2023, 11:37:43 PM
And what others have thought:

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https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704

The referees themselves admitted that they have make a big blunder on that last play, a drive by Lebron which they didn't call any foul. On the other hand, they call a foul + 1 on the other side prior to the call to make the score tie. And James is really mad after that but he can't do anything but to continue to play but eventually they have lost the game. And this game is closed to rigging and cheating by the referees, in my opinion.
There's the ref on that side of view on that image and I don't believe what they say. In those crucial moments, they have to review if it's a foul or not, right?
But they didn't call it out since it's their home team that's in danger of just losing the game with just 1 free throw to get in made by James. There should really be a call out on that incident and more sanctions and punishments for those referees that neglected their duty.
They don't do reviews anymore unless it's flagrant, this is where the coach's challenge will play a big part. It may just be one challenge but it can be used for crucial calls like this.
Anyway, I still believe referees are trying to do their best and what they said is true, they can make mistakes, tons of them. I have been trying to watch most of the NBA games that I could and I see a lot of missed calls from the referees.
This is a problem when they are focused on other calls like traveling and the ball carry, they tend to miss other details.

That play by Lebron though, all eyes on him, it's hard to miss that.
I think a coach challenge won't work too as no call was made. (contradicting myself  Grin) This is where they should research using the replay again on crucial moments. But not to the extent of abusing it.
Maybe 1 replay request and 1 coach challenge for each team.
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January 29, 2023, 10:18:27 PM
Memphis came back strong after five matches loss streak. Without Haliburton Indiana is just an ordinary team but they played first half good. Memphis took the control of the game in second half though. Jaren Jackson Jr. was the most effective player along with Morant. He looks like a serious candidate for DPOY award. Both players had a great game that Dillon Brooks' poor performance was overshadowed. Another triple-double night for Morant with an impressive 15 assists. Ja Morant will be a great player but his obvious travels that get no calls are disturbing me. I wish refs be more strict on a simple basketball rule. I don't expect them to call every travel like European basketball but some obvious travels that they don't call turns people off from watching the match.
I confess that it was a very interesting game! Sometimes I am surprised by the performance that Ja Morant is currently having, what surprises me is his age, he is only 23 years old and I have no doubt that he will evolve a lot in his career.

Regarding the Cavaliers vs Clippers game, did anyone watch it?
I took a quick look at the game's statistics and was surprised with some numbers.
I'm surprised to see the Clippers' accuracy in 3 point shoot (2/19) only 10.5% accuracy, on the other hand, the Cavs had a relevant advantage, (20/33) 60.6% accuracy in 3 point shoot.
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Memphis came back strong after five matches loss streak. Without Haliburton Indiana is just an ordinary team but they played first half good. Memphis took the control of the game in second half though. Jaren Jackson Jr. was the most effective player along with Morant. He looks like a serious candidate for DPOY award. Both players had a great game that Dillon Brooks' poor performance was overshadowed. Another triple-double night for Morant with an impressive 15 assists. Ja Morant will be a great player but his obvious travels that get no calls are disturbing me. I wish refs be more strict on a simple basketball rule. I don't expect them to call every travel like European basketball but some obvious travels that they don't call turns people off from watching the match.
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January 29, 2023, 08:43:36 PM
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That's why I somewhat agree with what AD said in an interview that referees must be fined for these kind of mistakes.
This makes complete sense but a tough call for NBA management to make. Veteran referees makes around $6K per game according to some articles so how do you intend to fine them? Maybe 10% of what they're earning? There is also an argument that it could only cause more drama within the league. I'd expect the National Basketball Referee Association to object to any fine and refuse to officiate any game.

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What happened to that game made me think to check who will officiate the game and review his background before placing a bet hehe.
Reference if interested also https://official.nba.com/referee-assignments/
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