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June 19, 2024, 08:24:03 AM
Not only does Horford deserves the championship, but everyone in the team. Brown and Tatum have spent so many playoff games without getting into the Finals and now they actually made a good job seizing the opportunity as they stepped foot in the finals finally.
I believe Luka will have his time soon, but I'm not just sure if it's together with Kyrie again, but this whole Dallas squad is young and promising. If they can stick to that team in the next 2-3 years they'll probably get a championship within that time frame.


Kyrie experienced will help Dallas to become a better team. It just Boston is a better team this season since Dallas starter is still not well experienced compared to Boston which you can be considered an all star team with KP and Holiday addition in the roster.

Dallas just needs to develop their young roster since they have a potential to excel. They are just lack of experience when dealing with hot team with momentum. They are already missing lots of shots to answer the opponent aggression and committed turnover that’s why they are always being left behind by Boston on 1st to 3rd quarter.

They are just answering back when the lead is already huge.
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June 19, 2024, 08:16:51 AM
I guess the first piece of postseason news is out there as Al Horford has decided to run it back another year with the Boston Celtics instead of retiring, which many believed he would have done had they not won it all. I’m happy for Al Horford, but I’m surprised he still gets minutes and makes an impact at his age and with his play style.

If the Celtics had failed to win the title, he would probably have been thinking about ending his career because he is 37 years old, and not at his prime anymore. Overall, I also think Horford deserved it. It's worth noting that he performed well in the final series vs. the Warriors in '22, and it's nice to see that he still managed to get the ring at the second attempt.

Not only does Horford deserves the championship, but everyone in the team. Brown and Tatum have spent so many playoff games without getting into the Finals and now they actually made a good job seizing the opportunity as they stepped foot in the finals finally.
They have been in the finals before, but fall short to the Warriors. Celtics just got better when they acquired KP and Holiday, and now with this healthy team, they might win a back to back championship, that should be the goal next season.

I believe Luka will have his time soon, but I'm not just sure if it's together with Kyrie again, but this whole Dallas squad is young and promising. If they can stick to that team in the next 2-3 years they'll probably get a championship within that time frame.
I think Dallas can improve, they just need to fill some role players and they are good to go again. Luka si so talented, there's nothing to improve in his game, the problem is Irving because sometimes he is not consistent with his shooting, just like  in the Finals where he heavily struggle on the road.
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June 19, 2024, 04:56:12 AM
I guess the first piece of postseason news is out there as Al Horford has decided to run it back another year with the Boston Celtics instead of retiring, which many believed he would have done had they not won it all. I’m happy for Al Horford, but I’m surprised he still gets minutes and makes an impact at his age and with his play style.

If the Celtics had failed to win the title, he would probably have been thinking about ending his career because he is 37 years old, and not at his prime anymore. Overall, I also think Horford deserved it. It's worth noting that he performed well in the final series vs. the Warriors in '22, and it's nice to see that he still managed to get the ring at the second attempt.

Not only does Horford deserves the championship, but everyone in the team. Brown and Tatum have spent so many playoff games without getting into the Finals and now they actually made a good job seizing the opportunity as they stepped foot in the finals finally.
I believe Luka will have his time soon, but I'm not just sure if it's together with Kyrie again, but this whole Dallas squad is young and promising. If they can stick to that team in the next 2-3 years they'll probably get a championship within that time frame.
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June 19, 2024, 04:46:47 AM
I guess the first piece of postseason news is out there as Al Horford has decided to run it back another year with the Boston Celtics instead of retiring, which many believed he would have done had they not won it all. I’m happy for Al Horford, but I’m surprised he still gets minutes and makes an impact at his age and with his play style.

If the Celtics had failed to win the title, he would probably have been thinking about ending his career because he is 37 years old, and not at his prime anymore. Overall, I also think Horford deserved it. It's worth noting that he performed well in the final series vs. the Warriors in '22, and it's nice to see that he still managed to get the ring at the second attempt.
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June 19, 2024, 02:46:38 AM
Congratulations to the Celtics, they deserved to be champions as the best team in the league. Tatum responded to all the criticism. He also mocked the media for making the Mavericks the favorite. Brown answered the haters with a ring and FMVP after the dunk contest. If this team keeps this roster, they will be the strongest contender next year. We haven't seen back-to-back championships in a long time, the Celtics can do it. I think that's why Horford is staying for another year, it's hard to let go of a team like this.
I agree with you, they can do it again because they are still young and you can see that they have a good chemistry. Hopefully Tatum and Brown's chemistry will remain the same, they should not compete with each other and instead just keep playing for the benefit of the team. Finals MVP is not so big like achieving a championship and people would easily remember a player if they are champions. For Tatum, maybe it's not his year but if they'll win another championship, maybe he'll get the FMVP and that should made him fulfilled if he isn't fullfilled now.

Horford, man, this guy is just old in numbers but he is playing like a young player, he is smart and knows how to give qualiity minutes that's why I can say that he had a big contribution to that championship. This celtics is not only about one team, they played like a team that's why they are successful now, and Tatum has become a good passer, that's so deadly.
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June 19, 2024, 02:29:44 AM
Congratulations to the Celtics, they deserved to be champions as the best team in the league. Tatum responded to all the criticism. He also mocked the media for making the Mavericks the favorite. Brown answered the haters with a ring and FMVP after the dunk contest. If this team keeps this roster, they will be the strongest contender next year. We haven't seen back-to-back championships in a long time, the Celtics can do it. I think that's why Horford is staying for another year, it's hard to let go of a team like this.
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June 19, 2024, 02:20:10 AM
I guess the first piece of postseason news is out there as Al Horford has decided to run it back another year with the Boston Celtics instead of retiring, which many believed he would have done had they not won it all. I’m happy for Al Horford, but I’m surprised he still gets minutes and makes an impact at his age and with his play style.
Yeah, they really make it sure that Al Horford be back again after being out for a season and then they traded, Robert Williams which is a huge players for them in the center slot, but him being injury prone is one factor. And then also their defensive specialist in Grant Williams and Marcus Smart, tough decision, but Brad Stevens did a great job getting KP and then Holiday. Now, it's just a question on whether the Celtics can make it another run here. Just like when the Warriors won their first NBA ring, we never thought that they will be a dynasty winning 4 rings, but now the Celtics have that possibility to make it again and become the next dynasty in the 2020's.
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June 19, 2024, 01:44:22 AM
I guess the first piece of postseason news is out there as Al Horford has decided to run it back another year with the Boston Celtics instead of retiring, which many believed he would have done had they not won it all. I’m happy for Al Horford, but I’m surprised he still gets minutes and makes an impact at his age and with his play style.
He is a great fit with the Boston Celtics. He was traded to the Sixers before, but after a few seasons, they got him back again, and he finally found a place where he won a championship with his team. He is younger than LeBron, so he can still play. What's good about Horford is that he has experience and is really clutch, which the Celtics can utilize even at his age. I think he will try again to see if they can do it one more time. If not, then he will probably consider retiring.
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June 19, 2024, 01:26:01 AM
I guess the first piece of postseason news is out there as Al Horford has decided to run it back another year with the Boston Celtics instead of retiring, which many believed he would have done had they not won it all. I’m happy for Al Horford, but I’m surprised he still gets minutes and makes an impact at his age and with his play style.
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June 18, 2024, 10:01:15 PM
We should also give credit to Joe Mazzulla as well, as he become the youngest NBA coach to win a ring.

And he said that he will undergo surgery because he has a torn meniscus,

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"I gotta have knee surgery, I tore my meniscus in March after we lost to Atlanta," Mazzulla said. "So first thing I gotta do is get back on the mats. I'm going to be out for a little while. I've been working through it since March."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-joe-mazzulla-coached-with-a-torn-meniscus-will-have-knee-surgery-after-winning-nba-finals/

So it was not an easy road for him, but he endured everything and proved all his doubters wrong!!

It's the trust that the Celtics have been given to Mazzulla and he pretty well did a good job this season as he lead them to a good record and everything just fall into pieces with them in the playoffs and I think they've just lost 1 game in every series they played including the finals.

And as if really telling that teams are no match for them in the playoff leading to the finals. And with this win, probably sweeter for him but he has to undergo surgery and it looks like he is very active as he is also in MMA as per the article and bringing the whole team for discipline and mental endurance. Reminds me of Phil Jackson, who also think out of the box when he did coach the Bulls and the Lakers that why he was cold Zen Master as he incorporate Yoga to those team to relax under pressure.
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June 18, 2024, 09:41:17 PM
We should also give credit to Joe Mazzulla as well, as he become the youngest NBA coach to win a ring.
Christians are proud of him when he's been interviewed and made statements about his faith. But other than that and regardless of his faith, his work as the head coach of the Boston Celtics must be appreciated. He's the tactician there and I was just curious that they've shown who are the people behind them like the back end staff and bosses like the governor of Celtics and president of development and what not. I can't remember if last season when the Nuggets have won if they've shown the same personalities that are also behind the management just to be recognized.

Yeah, regardless of his faith though, I mean he did a good job, Celtics management could have taken a risk on him since he is very young although he work as a assistant under Ime Udoka. So the risk has paid off for them, they didn't have to make adjustments or anything as Joe is already well aware of the plays and the strength and weaknesses of his player and then they got additions in KP and Holiday in which he really mold into the rotation.

Just said though for Marcus Smart not to win the title with the Celtics,  Wink, as he is one of the longest Celtics in that roster prior to him being traded.
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June 18, 2024, 09:22:33 PM
We should also give credit to Joe Mazzulla as well, as he become the youngest NBA coach to win a ring.
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So it was not an easy road for him, but he endured everything and proved all his doubters wrong!!
Well, after that very amazing run of the Celtics under Coach Ime Udoka, the pressure around Joe Mazzulla when he became the head coach is quite high to the point that many are saying that he can't duplicate what Coach Udoka did to the team. Now what will they gonna say to him now? Cheesy

It really wasn't an easy road for him that's for sure. He received lots of criticisms on how he's handling the team, but now that he got a title already, I guess it's safe to say that he also deserves some credits as well. Aside from him, let's also give credits to Brad Stevens who built this team. He's the reason why they got Porzingis and Holiday and he doesn't care if they will trade Smart or whoever players in their roster as long as it will get them even better.

Just for context that I saw online (NBA Facebook page), the Celtics record of 16-3 this playoff is the 2nd best winning percentage of any team since they changed the format. The best record is still holding by the 2016-2017 Warriors with 16-1 record.

Honestly, Dallas has been criticized for nothing at all, they have achieved what is a very tough thing by reaching the finals, and this is the same team that missed playoffs last season, and finals this season, an improvement like that doesn't really happen, don't remember any team that was like that. Plus they had some injured players too, if they had those players they could have been better too.
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Many (including me) didn't expect them to be clinching the NBA Finals. Many doubted them and many expected that either the Nuggets or the Timberwolves will go to the NBA Finals. Kudos to the whole Mavericks team, kudos to Coach Jason Kidd, and still congratulations for them because they changed how Kyrie is right now from a player full of dramas to a player who's only focusing on winning.

As for what's next for them, I don't think they will make some huge adjustments on this off-season. They will just have to develop their players especially their key players.
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June 18, 2024, 07:27:11 PM
We should also give credit to Joe Mazzulla as well, as he become the youngest NBA coach to win a ring.
Christians are proud of him when he's been interviewed and made statements about his faith. But other than that and regardless of his faith, his work as the head coach of the Boston Celtics must be appreciated. He's the tactician there and I was just curious that they've shown who are the people behind them like the back end staff and bosses like the governor of Celtics and president of development and what not. I can't remember if last season when the Nuggets have won if they've shown the same personalities that are also behind the management just to be recognized.
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June 18, 2024, 07:15:15 PM
It was Brown who won the MVP finals award, not Tatum. However, I think that award should have gone to Tatum. After all, if we compare the stats of these two guys in the finals series, Tatum was a little more productive and useful than Brown. Honestly, it isn't clear what exactly the organizers were guided by when choosing the MVP of the finals.

Yeah I just looked at the overall numbers and Tatum was in front in every categorie. Over the span of 5 games he had more points, more rebounds and more assists. I didn't look at the shooting splits though.

Even in the close out game Tatum was actually a lot better than Brown, so I don't really understand why they would give him the trophy and not Tatum.
But it is what it is, Boston definitely deserved this one big time. Funny how some people on your tried to talk them down after game 4 and many even predicted Dallas would come back to win the series. Well Boston proved them wrong from the first minute in game 5, and I am glad they did.

I think you have to look at the first three games of the series. At that point it became clear that Brown was the MVP, but Tatum stat padded the last two games in an attempt to get the MVP. From what I saw at least, Brown carried them early in the series when it mattered.  You can make the argument that they forced Brown to carry the team by focusing on Tatum early in the series, but I don’t think you could watch those first 3 games and say Brown didn’t deserve it.

I do agree, Brown is more clutch in this series, as compare to Tatum who just shoots 3's and it seems that he just padded his stats. And Brown was consistent not just in the finals but throughout the playoff itself.

And he has task sometimes to guard Luka, take steals and blocks shots. So there's a lot of intangibles that stats can't quantify and that's what the voters see on Brown and so he deserved that FMVP awards.

Agreed brown deserved the finals mvp in my head too.  He was solid all the way through the playoffs and Dallas didn't really have an answer for him.  The brown/tatum duo is going to be a tough twosome for years to come.  They better hope kristaps can stay somewhat healthy he is a nightmare matchup on the court when you have to worry about brown and tatum too.  KP amd his size though I fear won't ever be healthy for a long run.
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June 18, 2024, 05:39:12 PM
We should also give credit to Joe Mazzulla as well, as he become the youngest NBA coach to win a ring.

And he said that he will undergo surgery because he has a torn meniscus,

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"I gotta have knee surgery, I tore my meniscus in March after we lost to Atlanta," Mazzulla said. "So first thing I gotta do is get back on the mats. I'm going to be out for a little while. I've been working through it since March."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-joe-mazzulla-coached-with-a-torn-meniscus-will-have-knee-surgery-after-winning-nba-finals/

So it was not an easy road for him, but he endured everything and proved all his doubters wrong!!
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June 18, 2024, 04:49:14 PM
It was Brown who won the MVP finals award, not Tatum. However, I think that award should have gone to Tatum. After all, if we compare the stats of these two guys in the finals series, Tatum was a little more productive and useful than Brown. Honestly, it isn't clear what exactly the organizers were guided by when choosing the MVP of the finals.

Yeah I just looked at the overall numbers and Tatum was in front in every categorie. Over the span of 5 games he had more points, more rebounds and more assists. I didn't look at the shooting splits though.

Even in the close out game Tatum was actually a lot better than Brown, so I don't really understand why they would give him the trophy and not Tatum.
But it is what it is, Boston definitely deserved this one big time. Funny how some people on your tried to talk them down after game 4 and many even predicted Dallas would come back to win the series. Well Boston proved them wrong from the first minute in game 5, and I am glad they did.

I think you have to look at the first three games of the series. At that point it became clear that Brown was the MVP, but Tatum stat padded the last two games in an attempt to get the MVP. From what I saw at least, Brown carried them early in the series when it mattered.  You can make the argument that they forced Brown to carry the team by focusing on Tatum early in the series, but I don’t think you could watch those first 3 games and say Brown didn’t deserve it.

I do agree, Brown is more clutch in this series, as compare to Tatum who just shoots 3's and it seems that he just padded his stats. And Brown was consistent not just in the finals but throughout the playoff itself.

And he has task sometimes to guard Luka, take steals and blocks shots. So there's a lot of intangibles that stats can't quantify and that's what the voters see on Brown and so he deserved that FMVP awards.
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June 18, 2024, 03:10:22 PM
It was Brown who won the MVP finals award, not Tatum. However, I think that award should have gone to Tatum. After all, if we compare the stats of these two guys in the finals series, Tatum was a little more productive and useful than Brown. Honestly, it isn't clear what exactly the organizers were guided by when choosing the MVP of the finals.

Yeah I just looked at the overall numbers and Tatum was in front in every categorie. Over the span of 5 games he had more points, more rebounds and more assists. I didn't look at the shooting splits though.

Even in the close out game Tatum was actually a lot better than Brown, so I don't really understand why they would give him the trophy and not Tatum.
But it is what it is, Boston definitely deserved this one big time. Funny how some people on your tried to talk them down after game 4 and many even predicted Dallas would come back to win the series. Well Boston proved them wrong from the first minute in game 5, and I am glad they did.

I think you have to look at the first three games of the series. At that point it became clear that Brown was the MVP, but Tatum stat padded the last two games in an attempt to get the MVP. From what I saw at least, Brown carried them early in the series when it mattered.  You can make the argument that they forced Brown to carry the team by focusing on Tatum early in the series, but I don’t think you could watch those first 3 games and say Brown didn’t deserve it.
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June 18, 2024, 01:07:05 PM
There you go, finally, Tatum got his first ring, as well as Porzingis, Brown, Horford, White, etc. The problem with Dallas is they don't have as many players or options as Boston that could be lethal. They only have Luka and Irving; the others aren't as effective compared to the players of Boston. Now, I wonder, what if Boston faced the Wolves or the Nuggets? Maybe it would have been a different story. Anyway, congrats to the Celtics.

Yup! That is really the key component for the Boston Celtics to win they have many players who are helping Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown to win this final for me I really want the Dallas Mavericks to win this because watching the tandem of Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic was great and I thought the addition of Kyrie Irving could make it worst but again the Dallas Mavericks need potential players to win them in the finals.


Yes, finally, post-era of Pierce, KG and Rondo and Ray Allen, now we have, Tatum and Brown to lead the Celtics and the missing pieces the unicorn and Drew Holiday (thanks to Bucks for letting him go just to get Dame time). Dallas has no answer whatsoever to the offense of Celtics in Game 5. The sad part is that it's going to be months again, that we will have to wait before the next season begins. And for sure we will see some big movements already. Klay Thompson might be the biggest catch as he already shows intention to test the free market agency, also another big name is Donovan Mitchell. Anyway, congratulations to the Celtics for winning another NBA championship and another will be hang in the Boston Garden.

It really was a good swap although Kristaps Porziņģis was always injured I think he also helped in making this championship possible and Jrue Holiday was an addition to the Boston Celtics which is very unlikely and was the wrong decision for the Milwaukee Bucks as Damian Lillard didn't really help them and Giannis Antetokounmpo to win the Finals well but maybe getting 1 or 2 good players for the Dallas Mavericks then Kyrie and Luka might have a chance next year.

How about this look for the aftermath of hitting his face on the floor for Derrick White? I guess winning a championship might make it worth the sacrifice. I’m sure Charles Barkley would trade a tooth for a ring. That’s a nasty look. I’m sure he’ll have it all fixed up in the next week though. Hopefully in time for any parade.



It's worth it even if he loses a tooth or 2 they are now a champions but that face was really hilarious sure now that they are champions he can surely get to fix those teeth in no time.

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June 18, 2024, 11:49:29 AM
Well I fell asleep after work and took a bit of a cat nap, and by the time I woke up the game had already started and I completely forgot to place my bets.  I was planning on taking the Celtics at -6.5, which kind of felt like a lot but they had just absolutely dominated the Mavs for most of the series and felt confident rolling with them.  Of course I'm not the happiest person in the world having missed my bet and the game was once again kind of boring.  The Celtics steam rolled them.  Was thinking it would be a lot more competitive.
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June 18, 2024, 11:03:02 AM
Honestly, Dallas has been criticized for nothing at all, they have achieved what is a very tough thing by reaching the finals, and this is the same team that missed playoffs last season, and finals this season, an improvement like that doesn't really happen, don't remember any team that was like that. Plus they had some injured players too, if they had those players they could have been better too.

All in all, I believe that they are doing fine, and just because they lost the finals doesn't mean that they are bad. Boston got lucky at every turn too, like every time they played a team, that team had some injured stars, so it is quite obvious that they were getting lucky every series. But still, you need to be ready when that happens, and Boston was ready, a very formidable team.
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