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Quote from: boyptc on June 20, 2024, 05:56:30 PM

The Bulls traded Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey.

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I think Oklahoma Thunders is on the win with this trade. They get that veteran Alex Caruso and they let go of Giddey. Was this the kid that have trashtalked against the Mavs?

Well, welcome to his new team. He might get lesser playing time there.

Damn, this is the trade that I didn't expect, It could be that Josh Giddey's performance in the last playoff which is for me just so-so? Or most likely the allegations haunting him? https://www.oklahomalegalgroup.com/news/allegations-against-okc-thunders-josh-giddey-raise-intrigue-regarding-age-of-consent

And so it was reported that the Lakers have hired JJ Redick as their next head coach,

https://x.com/wojespn/status/1803866324730331335

So let's see if Redick can live up to the hype or will be another casualties regarding coaches lately.

I can see the angle for okc trading for Caruso to get a defensive stopper in theor backcourt to pair with SGA but I think in terms of skillet it was a little early to sell on giddy. I have to think they know a little more than everyone else on the allegations aimed at him. Dude can really ball and helps out not only in the assist area but rebounds and points. For me this is an odd trade. Something else is going on we don't know about.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 20, 2024, 05:56:30 PM

The Bulls traded Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey.

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I think Oklahoma Thunders is on the win with this trade. They get that veteran Alex Caruso and they let go of Giddey. Was this the kid that have trashtalked against the Mavs?

Well, welcome to his new team. He might get lesser playing time there.

Damn, this is the trade that I didn't expect, It could be that Josh Giddey's performance in the last playoff which is for me just so-so? Or most likely the allegations haunting him? https://www.oklahomalegalgroup.com/news/allegations-against-okc-thunders-josh-giddey-raise-intrigue-regarding-age-of-consent

And so it was reported that the Lakers have hired JJ Redick as their next head coach,

https://x.com/wojespn/status/1803866324730331335

So let's see if Redick can live up to the hype or will be another casualties regarding coaches lately.

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The Bulls traded Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey.

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I think Oklahoma Thunders is on the win with this trade. They get that veteran Alex Caruso and they let go of Giddey. Was this the kid that have trashtalked against the Mavs?

Well, welcome to his new team. He might get lesser playing time there.

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Quote from: MK-74 on June 20, 2024, 07:04:05 AM

I agree with you, there are players who get paid more to sit on the bench, I don't think the money paid to coaches is too much, but it seems a bit of a problem to send coaches away immediately because they can't build the team the way they want. Coaches should be given at least one year.

And the franchise isn't maximizing those players on the bench during the crucial games on the playoffs. That's why they have to secure themselves with better bench players and not just gonna sit there and will receive salary without sweating.

On the side of these bench players, they earn a lot by doing nothing but they want to have some playing time as well.

Anyway, going with the Dallas Mavericks. I've heard that Mark Cuban is no longer the one that will manage the basketball affairs of the team.

Since he has sold his stake, Mark Cuban is like a de-factor owner and we can still see that he is on the games of Dallas for support and maybe for a smooth transition. And I do agree that they didn't maximized their bench against the Celtics, Jason Kidd could have put more players in the rotation.

But overall though, it might not makes any difference at all because the Celtics is like a well oiled machine. They have been together longer, and they added KP and Holiday and was able to fit in perfectly in Joe Mazzulla's system.

IIRC, that was a condition that after he sold majority of his stake. He can still manage the basketball affairs of the team. But this time, even with that condition, he just let it go and resigned.

I guess that it's just really for the Celtics then. KP was there with the Dallas two years ago and then moved to the Wizards and then with the Celtics, so it's fate at all for him.

And the same goes for Jrue Holiday. Let's just give it to them and that's a well deserved ring for all of the Celtics staff and roster.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 20, 2024, 03:20:13 PM

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I just read one of those ridiculous click bait stories on Facebook but it was interesting enough to repeat here. The article claims the Minnesota Timberwolves are looking into drafting Bronny James in order to get LeBron to join the team and help them win a championship. As insane as this sounds, it seems not only possible, but also like it would be James’ best chance at winning a final ring.

If they are going to get both Bronny and LeBron James, they might also have to give up some key pieces of their current Identity, and I'm sure one of Gobert or Towns might have to be traded, maybe Gobert gets traded and Towns converted to a Center, since he's also a good shooter.

Speaking of the Lakers, it's been reported by ESPN that JJ Redick and the Lakers have agreed on a 4 year to deal, for Redick to take over the Coaching Job of the Lakers, I don't if that could be enough reason for LeBron to stay on the Lakers roster.

There’s been lots of talk about moving KAT this offseason. While I think that is a mistake, it’s a possibility. However, the JJ Redick move you just announced seems to be hinting that LeBron isn’t going anywhere. They literally just hired his podcast co-host to be his new head coach…

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 20, 2024, 02:34:53 PM

I just read one of those ridiculous click bait stories on Facebook but it was interesting enough to repeat here. The article claims the Minnesota Timberwolves are looking into drafting Bronny James in order to get LeBron to join the team and help them win a championship. As insane as this sounds, it seems not only possible, but also like it would be James’ best chance at winning a final ring.

If they are going to get both Bronny and LeBron James, they might also have to give up some key pieces of their current Identity, and I'm sure one of Gobert or Towns might have to be traded, maybe Gobert gets traded and Towns converted to a Center, since he's also a good shooter.

Speaking of the Lakers, it's been reported by ESPN that JJ Redick and the Lakers have agreed on a 4 year to deal, for Redick to take over the Coaching Job of the Lakers, I don't if that could be enough reason for LeBron to stay on the Lakers roster.

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I just read one of those ridiculous click bait stories on Facebook but it was interesting enough to repeat here. The article claims the Minnesota Timberwolves are looking into drafting Bronny James in order to get LeBron to join the team and help them win a championship. As insane as this sounds, it seems not only possible, but also like it would be James’ best chance at winning a final ring.

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To be fair, Luka may fail next season too, sometimes teams do not do well for a while before they win it. Look at this Boston team, they reached eastern conference finals SOOOO long ago, and been to finals after that, and yet this is their first win since 08 I think. So that shows that we are talking about taking some time before they could be any good, and this could be the same situation for them as well.

I believe that they should just realize that Dallas is a "young" team, or at least Luka is young, Kyrie is not. It may take a while for Luka to establish himself enough to win a title, and wouldn't be really end of the world if he ends up with zero rings by the end of his career, or just chase rings at good teams.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 20, 2024, 01:05:03 PM

Quote from: karabiber on June 20, 2024, 12:40:07 PM

The Celtics dominated the NBA from start to finish this season and crushed their opponents in the playoffs. However, the Celtics have always scared their fans with their misfortunes in the past years, but they finally became champions and the curse on the team was lifted. I also think the Celtics had the easiest championship in recent years. They have only three losses in the playoffs. They have become a near perfect system team and they have a very good roster. If they manage to maintain that and add to the current roster, they will be the strongest contenders for the championship next season.

That had always been the problem with winning teams, they cannot consistently maintain their roster and I won't blame the players and coaches for that, it's all about the management which could sometimes make some wrong decisions.
I bet they will make some trades but Derrick White and Jrue Holiday will probably stay. But we don't know if Boston Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck could still pay for the luxury tax the next season. $41 million dollars. That's a lot of money and I hope he is getting all that back after being champions of the 2024 NBA Finals.
But they are paying way too much just to get this championship caliber of a roster.
$49.3M - Jaylen Brown
$34.8M - Jayson Tatum
$30M - Jrue Holiday
$29.2M - Kristaps Porzingis
$20.0M - Derrick White
$9M - Al Horford.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/_/year/2024

Just that will make you realize that this is really a team that was built to take the beating and also beat players down and I am sure glad they are the champions but we should not expect they can keep that roster in the next years to come. Too expensive.

Yeah right, not unless the management is willing to embrace that taxes and avail the current roster to continue playing for them, just like what you said its all about how the management will play their cards after winning the title, it's a expensive squad that they produce though the players and coaches who work alongside with each other really provide the outcome that the management was expecting we don't know if they will keep them all or they need to let someone go to cut their expenses.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 20, 2024, 12:40:07 PM

The Celtics dominated the NBA from start to finish this season and crushed their opponents in the playoffs. However, the Celtics have always scared their fans with their misfortunes in the past years, but they finally became champions and the curse on the team was lifted. I also think the Celtics had the easiest championship in recent years. They have only three losses in the playoffs. They have become a near perfect system team and they have a very good roster. If they manage to maintain that and add to the current roster, they will be the strongest contenders for the championship next season.

That had always been the problem with winning teams, they cannot consistently maintain their roster and I won't blame the players and coaches for that, it's all about the management which could sometimes make some wrong decisions.
I bet they will make some trades but Derrick White and Jrue Holiday will probably stay. But we don't know if Boston Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck could still pay for the luxury tax the next season. $41 million dollars. That's a lot of money and I hope he is getting all that back after being champions of the 2024 NBA Finals.
But they are paying way too much just to get this championship caliber of a roster.
$49.3M - Jaylen Brown
$34.8M - Jayson Tatum
$30M - Jrue Holiday
$29.2M - Kristaps Porzingis
$20.0M - Derrick White
$9M - Al Horford.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/_/year/2024

Just that will make you realize that this is really a team that was built to take the beating and also beat players down and I am sure glad they are the champions but we should not expect they can keep that roster in the next years to come. Too expensive.

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The Celtics dominated the NBA from start to finish this season and crushed their opponents in the playoffs. However, the Celtics have always scared their fans with their misfortunes in the past years, but they finally became champions and the curse on the team was lifted. I also think the Celtics had the easiest championship in recent years. They have only three losses in the playoffs. They have become a near perfect system team and they have a very good roster. If they manage to maintain that and add to the current roster, they will be the strongest contenders for the championship next season.

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In fact, it's good to see that the NBA has begun to value coaches more and offer them higher salaries than they used to. In Monty's case, this is certainly too much, considering the poor results that the team has achieved under his coaching. However, it's worth noting that there are also many players in the NBA who get multi-million dollar salaries while sitting on the bench for most of the season.

Exactly, And this is the main reason too why coaches can be kick out immediately with very poor performance even them the team itself is thrash. Piston is a great example for this while the management think that coaches can miraculously increase this player potential to star level.

The expectation is so high on coaches nowadays that’s why we might frequently see a coach change every year despite the handsome payment since team keeps testing the water until they find a suitable that will make an improvement to a garbage team.

So yeah, worthy every penny for coaches payment.

Coaches should have a big salary as they have a very important job, and it's true that they could be kicked out anytime based on their agreement. Also, when a coach is hired because of a good performance with his previous team, it doesn't mean his new team will also become a good team immediately. It's a process, but sometimes management doesn't want to invest in that long process, so they'll just find a replacement.

One team I've seen improve last season under a new coach is the Rockets. We know that Coach Udoka came from Boston but parted ways with the team as he broke the rules. However, look at how much the Rockets improved last season. Maybe next season they'll come back even stronger than expected.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on June 20, 2024, 05:26:35 AM

In fact, it's good to see that the NBA has begun to value coaches more and offer them higher salaries than they used to. In Monty's case, this is certainly too much, considering the poor results that the team has achieved under his coaching. However, it's worth noting that there are also many players in the NBA who get multi-million dollar salaries while sitting on the bench for most of the season.

Exactly, And this is the main reason too why coaches can be kick out immediately with very poor performance even them the team itself is thrash. Piston is a great example for this while the management think that coaches can miraculously increase this player potential to star level.

The expectation is so high on coaches nowadays that’s why we might frequently see a coach change every year despite the handsome payment since team keeps testing the water until they find a suitable that will make an improvement to a garbage team.

So yeah, worthy every penny for coaches payment.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 20, 2024, 08:05:29 AM

Since he has sold his stake, Mark Cuban is like a de-factor owner and we can still see that he is on the games of Dallas for support and maybe for a smooth transition. And I do agree that they didn't maximized their bench against the Celtics, Jason Kidd could have put more players in the rotation.

But overall though, it might not makes any difference at all because the Celtics is like a well oiled machine. They have been together longer, and they added KP and Holiday and was able to fit in perfectly in Joe Mazzulla's system.

That's the agreement, he still has few shares left and he controls the affairs of the team. Meaning, he will decide for the team and I think he is doing a great job. though they fail in the NBA finals, it's still impressive as they are new to this stage but I'm sure they had learn a lot from their loss and they'll come back with a better team. Kyrie and Luka, or maybe they'll create their own big 3.

What if Durant will join them? I think that's gonna be a real strong team.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 20, 2024, 07:32:43 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on June 20, 2024, 07:04:05 AM

I agree with you, there are players who get paid more to sit on the bench, I don't think the money paid to coaches is too much, but it seems a bit of a problem to send coaches away immediately because they can't build the team the way they want. Coaches should be given at least one year.

And the franchise isn't maximizing those players on the bench during the crucial games on the playoffs. That's why they have to secure themselves with better bench players and not just gonna sit there and will receive salary without sweating.

On the side of these bench players, they earn a lot by doing nothing but they want to have some playing time as well.

Anyway, going with the Dallas Mavericks. I've heard that Mark Cuban is no longer the one that will manage the basketball affairs of the team.

Since he has sold his stake, Mark Cuban is like a de-factor owner and we can still see that he is on the games of Dallas for support and maybe for a smooth transition. And I do agree that they didn't maximized their bench against the Celtics, Jason Kidd could have put more players in the rotation.

But overall though, it might not makes any difference at all because the Celtics is like a well oiled machine. They have been together longer, and they added KP and Holiday and was able to fit in perfectly in Joe Mazzulla's system.

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Quote from: MK-74 on June 20, 2024, 07:04:05 AM

I agree with you, there are players who get paid more to sit on the bench, I don't think the money paid to coaches is too much, but it seems a bit of a problem to send coaches away immediately because they can't build the team the way they want. Coaches should be given at least one year.

And the franchise isn't maximizing those players on the bench during the crucial games on the playoffs. That's why they have to secure themselves with better bench players and not just gonna sit there and will receive salary without sweating.

On the side of these bench players, they earn a lot by doing nothing but they want to have some playing time as well.

Anyway, going with the Dallas Mavericks. I've heard that Mark Cuban is no longer the one that will manage the basketball affairs of the team.

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Doncic is giving his best all the time. He performed amazingly during the playoffs as well. Him and Irving were a really great duo too unlike my worries. However I can't also say Irving was good enough in the final series. Sad

_{Source: https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kyrie-irving-finals-stats}

Look at these statistics. Mostly not good enough. He needed to score way more points than this to keep up with Doncic to help his team more. You are qualifying for NBA finals after 7 years but you are performing this poorly. I think it is unacceptable. Sad

Congrats to Celtics! It has been a long time since they won a championship the last time.

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Detroit Pistons terminated the contract of coach Monty Williams.
The Detroit Pistons will pay Williams 65 million dollars in compensation.

Williams was also fired by the Phoenix Suns in May 2023 and received 20 Million dollars in compensation from the Suns.

Williams earned 85 million dollars for doing nothing.

And during that time, Monty has the biggest contract for a NBA coach before coach Erik Spo was paid more by the Heat with $100m++. Yeah, he was paid handsomely without doing anything specially for Detroit. But still though, the question is whether he can still or some time willing to hire him after what he did to the Pistons?

So he better be not gamble all that money he got, and be a good investor because that money might not long.

So now we have the Lakers and the Pistons searching for a new coach next season so let's see who will they get to turnaround their franchise.

In fact, it's good to see that the NBA has begun to value coaches more and offer them higher salaries than they used to. In Monty's case, this is certainly too much, considering the poor results that the team has achieved under his coaching. However, it's worth noting that there are also many players in the NBA who get multi-million dollar salaries while sitting on the bench for most of the season.

I agree with you, there are players who get paid more to sit on the bench, I don't think the money paid to coaches is too much, but it seems a bit of a problem to send coaches away immediately because they can't build the team the way they want. Coaches should be given at least one year.

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Quote from: FanEagle on June 19, 2024, 10:36:04 AM

Luka Doncic did all he can, people who keep calling him not doing his best are not realizing how much work load he gets on offense, which means his defense may lack a bit. Warriors kept Curry not defending anyone for many years while they won all those rings, so it's understandable.

I do hope that those criticism on him will make him a better player for next season. That's how great players responded, like when we hear that Kobe after losing in the finals to the Celtics, went back in the gym the next day, lift some weight and then go to a court to take 5,000-10,000 shots.

Quote from: FanEagle on June 19, 2024, 10:36:04 AM

Dallas needs to get some amazing defender to help both Kyrie and Luka, because it feels like that is what they are missing right now, if they had some amazing defender then they wouldn't have all of these issues. In the end, we are seeing them doing whatever they can and that is a good thing, they were at the finals. Boston winning in 08 and 24 is also a great meme these days, it's such a big Kobe hate thing and funny to see as well, if Kobe was still alive he would have laughed but be annoyed as well.

They are good already in my opinion, they have all the positions covered up. It's just that they don't have the experienced in the finals and obviously, Celtics have been here before and they have the perfect system as evident of them winning 60+ games in the regular season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 19, 2024, 05:19:40 PM

It was a completely deserved victory for Boston Celtics. I have nothing to say against that. I just got disappointed by the way Dallas Mavericks played the final series. They just can't get good contribution from all the players. Doncic and Irving can carry this team until a certain point. After that it is all about teamwork to win. I thought they would be competitive and even go for the championship. Boston Celtics became champions after 16 years which is extra special for them.

I see Boston as too much for the Dallas Mavericks even before their series started. It's a bonus already how Dallas reached the finals. I cannot believe Minnesota who upset the defending champions in a grueling 7 game series nearly shut out by Mavs.

Luka Doncic did his part extraordinarily. He played well in this playoffs even with minor injuries. It was Kyrie who got lost in the series against Boston. I think there was only one game where Kyrie performed as a star in the finals. The rest of the Mavs team simply cannot match Boston's veterans.

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