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June 22, 2024, 07:00:05 PM
So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

That would be a good combo, at least Rondo knows some of the Lakers roster as they had won a championship before. I even thought Rondo would coach the Lakers as there were rumors before that he applied, but turned out JJ Reddick was hired, but as I had mentioned, Rondo might be worth a try as he has a championship DNS. It's just unbelievable that these players have competed or have played with Lebron before but now they are already a coach.
Yeah, that was also my thought when they've kicked Darvin Ham. I thought that it was Rajon that's going to replace him and we all knew that he likes to be in the coaching staff.

I've seen a picture online on the new Dallas starter and Mikal Bridges was included in their roster, I said to myself, I think that is a good line up as Mikal Bridges is a shooter, has the length which means he can also defend. If that line up will materialized, it will be Luka + Mikal Bridges + Irving, that would be a big 3 for sure.
Well, don't believe anything in what you see as long as it's from official source.

You get the salary, but if you don't finish the contract because they cut you out, I'm not sure but you'll not getting the whole thing then unless they're too generous to still give the whole amount.

So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

It depends on the outline of the contract. Contract can protect both Lakers and JJ depending on what they agree but it’s dumb that you will sign a 4 year contract while they can kick you out anytime the company wants without any compensation to the original contract plan.

The coach will get a huge amount if the Lakers break the contract by firing him. This job is a win win for JJ regardless of his performance of his coaching since he is just doing podcast prior to this job offer which is a huge leap with his career.
There is always that condition on the contract that they can kick you out anytime they wish or revoke the contract but they have to pay you the entire agreed amount.
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June 22, 2024, 06:20:16 PM
With regards to the contract, just look at Monty Williams on the Pistons. They gave him a huge contract at the start of the season, and when the Pistons saw what happened to them, they fired him just a few days ago. They still owe him around $70 Million for 6 years (IIRC) which is pretty great. Career is most likely over? I guess so, but he can just sign with another team as a head coach if he wants to and some team wants him. At the end of the day, things like this are pretty common already especially now that many teams always wanted to have a new coach if they see their team struggling all throughout the regular season.
His career might be over but I think that he can still continue it somewhere else or with college basketball that needs an experienced coach. Regardless of his run with the Pistons, experience-wise, he's got it. But if not, he's got hefty money to start with and go with venture capitalists for that money for him to invest. Anyway, it's all about connections there and he sure has got a lot of it. It may be frustrating for the Pistons and him but somewhere, he'd find another home.
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June 22, 2024, 06:01:36 PM
Being the Lakers coach has a lot of drawbacks. You’ll be blamed if they lose and you aren’t even the one calling the shots. You’ll be scrutinized and constantly in the news. Then you’ll be fired before your contract is up. However, there is a plus side. You can sign a long term deal knowing you’ll get paid in full while only working 1/3 of the deal before being fired. Sure, your career is most likely over at that point, but the layout and lack of work is pretty incredible.
That's the problem with the Lakers. The pressure by being a coach in LA is too high, and I consider the environment around it as harsh. As for the Lakers, we've seen it happen in their past 2 coach in Frank Vogel and Darvin Ham. Even though both coaches gave them a title (NBA Title and In-season tournament), they didn't immune to the criticisms from their fans and other audiences. Maybe this is the problem when you are in a team which is considered "all-time great".

With regards to the contract, just look at Monty Williams on the Pistons. They gave him a huge contract at the start of the season, and when the Pistons saw what happened to them, they fired him just a few days ago. They still owe him around $70 Million for 6 years (IIRC) which is pretty great. Career is most likely over? I guess so, but he can just sign with another team as a head coach if he wants to and some team wants him. At the end of the day, things like this are pretty common already especially now that many teams always wanted to have a new coach if they see their team struggling all throughout the regular season.
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June 22, 2024, 02:44:17 PM

You get the salary, but if you don't finish the contract because they cut you out, I'm not sure but you'll not getting the whole thing then unless they're too generous to still give the whole amount.

So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

It depends on the outline of the contract. Contract can protect both Lakers and JJ depending on what they agree but it’s dumb that you will sign a 4 year contract while they can kick you out anytime the company wants without any compensation to the original contract plan.

The coach will get a huge amount if the Lakers break the contract by firing him. This job is a win win for JJ regardless of his performance of his coaching since he is just doing podcast prior to this job offer which is a huge leap with his career.

Yeah a huge opportunities coaching one of the well-known franchise and to be fair with LeBron legacy even he's no longer at his prime it's still LeBron who's the main alpha of the team we never know what they are trying to build behind JJ's arrival, maybe they will invest and acquire good names of stars who can help them on their campaign.

Too early to conclude but I'm anticipating that Lakers will use some of those millions that they've got to create a competitive squad.
I don't think being a Lakers coach is a great job these days, heck no coaching job in the NBA is really awesome. You're basically a glorified babysitter on most teams, the superstars are going to do whatever they want. Everyone knows Lebron is basically the coach of the Lakers, do what he says or get fired.

Being the Lakers coach has a lot of drawbacks. You’ll be blamed if they lose and you aren’t even the one calling the shots. You’ll be scrutinized and constantly in the news. Then you’ll be fired before your contract is up. However, there is a plus side. You can sign a long term deal knowing you’ll get paid in full while only working 1/3 of the deal before being fired. Sure, your career is most likely over at that point, but the layout and lack of work is pretty incredible.
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June 22, 2024, 01:13:32 PM

You get the salary, but if you don't finish the contract because they cut you out, I'm not sure but you'll not getting the whole thing then unless they're too generous to still give the whole amount.

So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

It depends on the outline of the contract. Contract can protect both Lakers and JJ depending on what they agree but it’s dumb that you will sign a 4 year contract while they can kick you out anytime the company wants without any compensation to the original contract plan.

The coach will get a huge amount if the Lakers break the contract by firing him. This job is a win win for JJ regardless of his performance of his coaching since he is just doing podcast prior to this job offer which is a huge leap with his career.

Yeah a huge opportunities coaching one of the well-known franchise and to be fair with LeBron legacy even he's no longer at his prime it's still LeBron who's the main alpha of the team we never know what they are trying to build behind JJ's arrival, maybe they will invest and acquire good names of stars who can help them on their campaign.

Too early to conclude but I'm anticipating that Lakers will use some of those millions that they've got to create a competitive squad.
I don't think being a Lakers coach is a great job these days, heck no coaching job in the NBA is really awesome. You're basically a glorified babysitter on most teams, the superstars are going to do whatever they want. Everyone knows Lebron is basically the coach of the Lakers, do what he says or get fired.
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June 22, 2024, 12:16:03 PM

You get the salary, but if you don't finish the contract because they cut you out, I'm not sure but you'll not getting the whole thing then unless they're too generous to still give the whole amount.

So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

It depends on the outline of the contract. Contract can protect both Lakers and JJ depending on what they agree but it’s dumb that you will sign a 4 year contract while they can kick you out anytime the company wants without any compensation to the original contract plan.

The coach will get a huge amount if the Lakers break the contract by firing him. This job is a win win for JJ regardless of his performance of his coaching since he is just doing podcast prior to this job offer which is a huge leap with his career.

Yeah a huge opportunities coaching one of the well-known franchise and to be fair with LeBron legacy even he's no longer at his prime it's still LeBron who's the main alpha of the team we never know what they are trying to build behind JJ's arrival, maybe they will invest and acquire good names of stars who can help them on their campaign.

Too early to conclude but I'm anticipating that Lakers will use some of those millions that they've got to create a competitive squad.
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June 22, 2024, 11:18:24 AM

You get the salary, but if you don't finish the contract because they cut you out, I'm not sure but you'll not getting the whole thing then unless they're too generous to still give the whole amount.

So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

It depends on the outline of the contract. Contract can protect both Lakers and JJ depending on what they agree but it’s dumb that you will sign a 4 year contract while they can kick you out anytime the company wants without any compensation to the original contract plan.

The coach will get a huge amount if the Lakers break the contract by firing him. This job is a win win for JJ regardless of his performance of his coaching since he is just doing podcast prior to this job offer which is a huge leap with his career.
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June 22, 2024, 09:49:37 AM
So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.

That would be a good combo, at least Rondo knows some of the Lakers roster as they had won a championship before. I even thought Rondo would coach the Lakers as there were rumors before that he applied, but turned out JJ Reddick was hired, but as I had mentioned, Rondo might be worth a try as he has a championship DNS. It's just unbelievable that these players have competed or have played with Lebron before but now they are already a coach.

I've seen a picture online on the new Dallas starter and Mikal Bridges was included in their roster, I said to myself, I think that is a good line up as Mikal Bridges is a shooter, has the length which means he can also defend. If that line up will materialized, it will be Luka + Mikal Bridges + Irving, that would be a big 3 for sure.
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June 22, 2024, 09:42:15 AM
It is coming.

We'd see first from the Lakers that they'd hire JJ Redick that said to sign with a 4-year contracts to Lakers.

But then, if it's not a fruitful season for him I guess that the Lakers might do some revocation as well.
And that's why we say that there is no job tenure being a head coach in the NBA. History has show that already. But the hate on JJ Redick though, there's a lot of meme's going on around like Lebron setting Redick to be his scapegoat after another failed season, Lol, that's hilarious.

Another is that when we see the Lakers having a 6 game losing streak, imagine what will be the reaction of the fans. So again, he better do a good job as a 1st year Laker coach to at least extend his season, otherwise, if the Lakers fail to make the playoff and with a bad record, heads will roll again.
It's an on call job. You get to stay as long as the management likes you and when they're done with you, you're also done with them.

You get the salary, but if you don't finish the contract because they cut you out, I'm not sure but you'll not getting the whole thing then unless they're too generous to still give the whole amount.

So speaking of JJ, I think that some Lakers players are suggesting Rondo to assist him.
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June 22, 2024, 08:56:23 AM
With all of the discussions of contracts, how about talking about someone who's not part of any team but part of ESPN?  Cheesy

I don't usually watch this guy and skips on him but are there folks here that listens to him?

According to John Ourand, Stephen A. Smith is currently asking for $25 million annually from ESPN.

ESPN, however, is only offering $18 million for Smith's services.

Which Smith doesn't believe is enough.

I didn't know he is paid that much. He is even getting paid bigger than the NBA coaches, so his job must be really hard.
According to here : https://frontofficesports.com/highest-paid-nba-coaches/... Steve Kerr earned $17.5 million last year.

Well, if ESPN can't loss him, then they should pay him his demand, besides, I'm sure their company is making a lot of money as Stephen A. Smith could attract the viewers due to his energy while commenting a game.
It is up to ESPN on how they're going to handle him. But it wouldn't probably hurt them if they will let him go if they can't give him the salary that he want and they don't want to negotiate anymore.

There are other veterans that have played the ball for real and has got experience in the actual NBA that can replace him. I know he's got the experience and such and he's been there to yell and paid.

But some talk with sense from the ones who have been there might really makes sense every half time or every segment that they'll appear.

~snip~
I'll stop it from here.
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June 22, 2024, 08:51:17 AM
With all of the discussions of contracts, how about talking about someone who's not part of any team but part of ESPN?  Cheesy

I don't usually watch this guy and skips on him but are there folks here that listens to him?

According to John Ourand, Stephen A. Smith is currently asking for $25 million annually from ESPN.

ESPN, however, is only offering $18 million for Smith's services.

Which Smith doesn't believe is enough.


This is already an off-topic here since this thread is dedicated for NBA discussion will ESPN is not part of NBA regardless if the person in subject is a previous NBA player or not. But good for this announcer that are having a good pay due to the demand on sports nowadays from sports betting.


JJ Reddick situation is really a big big deal at the moment. Why? Because we are going to see Lebron James "probably" get his son this season, unless something crazy happens of course, and he is getting his close friend and podcast mate with him to the coaching job as well.

He might bring all the old players on his era as coaching staff once he already start working. I believe this might be the new trend on coaching staff once they manage to on board ex-nba players to share knowledge since this is the exact role of veteran player on active team roster like Deandre Jordan on Nuggets.
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June 22, 2024, 06:47:59 AM

Well, if ESPN can't loss him, then they should pay him his demand, besides, I'm sure their company is making a lot of money as Stephen A. Smith could attract the viewers due to his energy while commenting a game.

He is not even the most popular and high paid according to this list. https://www.wnct.com/sports/top-10-highest-paid-sports-announcers/

That was in 2023 where he was ranked at number 9 in terms of earning with $12 million per year... The number goes to Tom Brady for "Football Commentator for Fox Sports, $37.5 million per year"... Well, Brady deserve that because he is a GOAT in NFL, don't know about Stephen A. Smith.
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June 22, 2024, 06:02:41 AM
With all of the discussions of contracts, how about talking about someone who's not part of any team but part of ESPN?  Cheesy

I don't usually watch this guy and skips on him but are there folks here that listens to him?

According to John Ourand, Stephen A. Smith is currently asking for $25 million annually from ESPN.

ESPN, however, is only offering $18 million for Smith's services.

Which Smith doesn't believe is enough.


I didn't know he is paid that much. He is even getting paid bigger than the NBA coaches, so his job must be really hard.
According to here : https://frontofficesports.com/highest-paid-nba-coaches/... Steve Kerr earned $17.5 million last year.

Well, if ESPN can't loss him, then they should pay him his demand, besides, I'm sure their company is making a lot of money as Stephen A. Smith could attract the viewers due to his energy while commenting a game.
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June 22, 2024, 05:57:29 AM
With all of the discussions of contracts, how about talking about someone who's not part of any team but part of ESPN?  Cheesy

I don't usually watch this guy and skips on him but are there folks here that listens to him?

JJ Reddick situation is really a big big deal at the moment. Why? Because we are going to see Lebron James "probably" get his son this season, unless something crazy happens of course, and he is getting his close friend and podcast mate with him to the coaching job as well.
Yeah, that podcast thing. I think that something is already brewed for both of them. And before it's offered to JJ, I think a college coach was offered with the job but he declined as he don't like to coach Lebron.
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June 22, 2024, 05:56:14 AM
JJ Reddick situation is really a big big deal at the moment. Why? Because we are going to see Lebron James "probably" get his son this season, unless something crazy happens of course, and he is getting his close friend and podcast mate with him to the coaching job as well.

Meaning that, we are talking about the season where Lebron has the most control over the team we have ever seen. If he also makes some FA signings and some trades as well, we could see the famous "LeGM" type of season. Dude is about to be 40 years old, that ain't easy, yes we have seen him do well enough, but I think it is not going to be all that easy for him to play, but having THIS much control over the team? Like even appoint the head coach? Then I think it could be a good season for Lakers.

As far as I know, he had seasons with the Cavs wherein he has total control of his team same with the Lakers as well. So there's not much of a difference if we talk about control or what's not for JJ Redick being the coach of the Lakers. Still boils down to Redick on how he is going to handle the team and the pressure of being the head coach as this is obviously very different from being a podcaster.

If they are going to suffer what had happen to them last season, then I do not think that Redick will get all the respect from his players including Lebron. They should really do good otherwise the Lakers woes will continue and we might not see Redick leading them next season.
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June 22, 2024, 05:00:17 AM
JJ Redick is a young and inexperienced Coach, this was a risky deal for Los Angeles.
The Lakers and JJ Redick signed a 4-year contract, I hope they are successful, if not, things will go into trouble for the Lakers.
Let's see what kind of Lakers we will watch in the new season.

I guess they don't have a choice but to try the experience of JJ Redick inside the court. Since their first choice didn't accept their offer since Dan Hurley have other plan for his coaching career.

But still its good that Lakers give Redick a chance to handle the coaching job for them since then see if he can bring some changes on their rotation. The question if he could able to question the decision making of Lebron inside the court since usually this will be the issue of coaches who handle him. This is tough job for Redick especially on handling Lebron, but guess he need to deal with it since he need to have a experience to add on his portfolio on his new career chosen after he retires as a player on NBA.

After watching the podcast of JJ Redick with Lebron James, I think Lebron is a good listener. He always lets Redick finish his statements first and then they are always in sync with what they are talking about. I think the chemistry was already built there and it will just get deeper once they both go on practice and training camps.
I am more worried about the young guys of the Lakers, will Redick get the respect that he wants so that these guys will listen to him or will they just listen to Lebron instead of their coach?
Locker room problems, Redick might have a great mind when it comes to basketball strategies but when it comes to locker room we are not sure yet if he is also good at it. We will see.

If he get the respect of LBJ then for sure that he can also earn the respect of the young guys. For sure those people will follow him since after all he is their new head coach so everything he order for sure they will follow him. Also I don't see the Podcast you mention maybe I will search that to see the topic they discuss since its pretty interesting to watch how Reddick and LBJ could blend together as a coach and also as a super dominant player. But let see what they could able to get next season opener since I see Redick is capable to handle the job since for sure that he learn a lot of experience from playing inside the court so for sure he can share his learnings and ideas to help Lakers to win on every games they played. What I hope that it will not happen that Redick will be the scape goat for Lakers if they experience a embarrassing lose next season.
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June 22, 2024, 03:53:54 AM
Yeah, it's always a dream for any father to stay healthy and play with your son, I think they are really working on it and it might be one of the reason why LeBron will stay, having his son on his team and getting a new coach who can lead the young star to take some minutes of playing and allow him to improve his confidence, I guess it's happening Bronny will be playing with his dad and the two will make a history, we never know we might see them both playing with another superstar who will help them to be more competitve, anything can happen, let's wait for any upcoming updates regarding to this.
Lebron has said that before that wherever is Bronny will be drafted, he'd go there as well. It's not like an instruction or whatnot but I think he as a father just really want to play with his son on the NBA. One latest team that would like to get Bronny is the Timberwolves. I can imagine if that's for real, they're already a champ contender and with their current roster, adding Lebron on them would do something good I guess.

And at the same time, Bronny will get a veteran guard there to give him some tip. Aside from his father, it's gonna be Mike Conley. So, that's something a win-win or wherever these two goes but not probably to the team that's wanting to get them. As it's gonna be costly and at the same time, they get a rookie to absorb and an older version of Lebron. But let's see.

I also heard that Phoenix could also be a destination for Bronny, so just imagine if Lebron goes to the Suns with KD and Booker and then Bronny that will be awesome combo. But we will see, for sure there are going to be many teams that will try to get Bronny because they know what the perks will be as they can also get his father and then the team making history.

However, they will not be the first one to do that in basketball because as early as the 90's the Philippines had achieved that, although the Father, Jaworski Sr, didn't play but insistent of being the coach, (he was a player/coach as well).

Maybe here Lebron and Bronny will play together.
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June 22, 2024, 02:56:00 AM
Yeah, it's always a dream for any father to stay healthy and play with your son, I think they are really working on it and it might be one of the reason why LeBron will stay, having his son on his team and getting a new coach who can lead the young star to take some minutes of playing and allow him to improve his confidence, I guess it's happening Bronny will be playing with his dad and the two will make a history, we never know we might see them both playing with another superstar who will help them to be more competitve, anything can happen, let's wait for any upcoming updates regarding to this.
Lebron has said that before that wherever is Bronny will be drafted, he'd go there as well. It's not like an instruction or whatnot but I think he as a father just really want to play with his son on the NBA. One latest team that would like to get Bronny is the Timberwolves. I can imagine if that's for real, they're already a champ contender and with their current roster, adding Lebron on them would do something good I guess.

And at the same time, Bronny will get a veteran guard there to give him some tip. Aside from his father, it's gonna be Mike Conley. So, that's something a win-win or wherever these two goes but not probably to the team that's wanting to get them. As it's gonna be costly and at the same time, they get a rookie to absorb and an older version of Lebron. But let's see.
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June 22, 2024, 02:40:46 AM
IMO, we'll see news like this in the upcoming days. Every team is going to reform their roster and as well as their coaching staff.

Whatever is the management for each team think what's best for them, they'd do it even if it's going to take a revocation of a coach, a player or anyone in the organization a contract.

This is what's the ugly side of these franchises and company, they can revoke someone's contract at their own will when they're not satisfied. There's always that clause included in it.

If it's not profitable then they can just let it go, no players or coaches are safe as the managements will always aim for money, and with how the Piston performs last season it's a managements decision to revoke the contract to find a suitable person for a vacant position and hope that it will bring something decent to attract fans to buy tickets and thier merchandise.

As you said, we might see more news regarding to how teams will reform for the betterment of the franchise.
It is coming.

We'd see first from the Lakers that they'd hire JJ Redick that said to sign with a 4-year contracts to Lakers.

But then, if it's not a fruitful season for him I guess that the Lakers might do some revocation as well.
And that's why we say that there is no job tenure being a head coach in the NBA. History has show that already. But the hate on JJ Redick though, there's a lot of meme's going on around like Lebron setting Redick to be his scapegoat after another failed season, Lol, that's hilarious.

Another is that when we see the Lakers having a 6 game losing streak, imagine what will be the reaction of the fans. So again, he better do a good job as a 1st year Laker coach to at least extend his season, otherwise, if the Lakers fail to make the playoff and with a bad record, heads will roll again.
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June 21, 2024, 06:59:17 PM
The Bulls traded Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey.

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/alex-caruso-for-josh-giddey-trade-thunder-bulls-make-swap-with-okc-landing-all-defensive-guard-per-report/

I think Oklahoma Thunders is on the win with this trade. They get that veteran Alex Caruso and they let go of Giddey. Was this the kid that have trashtalked against the Mavs?

Well, welcome to his new team. He might get lesser playing time there.

Damn, this is the trade that I didn't expect, It could be that Josh Giddey's performance in the last playoff which is for me just so-so? Or most likely the allegations haunting him? https://www.oklahomalegalgroup.com/news/allegations-against-okc-thunders-josh-giddey-raise-intrigue-regarding-age-of-consent

And so it was reported that the Lakers have hired JJ Redick as their next head coach,
So let's see if Redick can live up to the hype or will be another casualties regarding coaches lately.
To be honest, he didn't do well in the playoffs but he talks a lot and that has been seen with their series against Mavs. I don't know about that allegation against him but that seems to be a serious one.

As for JJ, good luck to him. Most of the new coaches that the Lakers have hired have got lesser games.

I agree this was a good trade for the Thunder.  Not sure what Chicago gets out of the deal.  Josh Giddey shouldn't even be in the NBA after his relationship with an underaged girl was exposed.  I'm surprised they still managed to fleece the Bulls given how bad the Giddey situation will be for whoever has him.

LeBron James is rumored to be about to sign a 3-year 162 million dollar contract.  That's wild at his age.  I think we may have reached the point where LeBron is a liability for his team.  This year was fine and maybe next year will be as well, but you can't tell me that LeBron will still be worth $50,000,000+ per year in the 2026-2027 season.  Not saying he hasn't already earned that money, just saying the salary cap is going to keep him from winning another championship.
Speaking of Lebron, that's still a lot to be honest. It's true that given his age, that should be lower like for most are given with $1M-$5M annual contract but him, he's still getting a lot from it.

I guess the franchise that will sign him a deal is likely just for getting him as a 'veteran' contract raking lots of fans for them and hoping to get more merch purchases.  Cheesy

Caruso has been known for his defensive skills, and Giddey has been known for... if you know what I mean then don't say it here. Cheesy

Anyway, it's the Thunder who won on this trade because aside from Lu Dort, they also have Alex Caruso that will help him in defending the opposing team's backcourts. Lesser playing time? Maybe, but he might still be a starter at least. SGA at 1, Caruso at 2, Dort at 3, JDub at 4, Chet at 5. This is an improvement for the team, and with how many draft picks they have right now, expect more of these trades in the future.
I'm not talking about Caruso getting lesser playing time but Giddey's mate. But he'd sure be part of the starting 5.
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