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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 06, 2023, 09:58:56 PM

A very bad loss for the Philadelphia 76ers against the Chicago Bulls.
That's how bad it gets whenever Joel Embiid is out. They got close to 8 points deficit but Zach LaVine didn't let them get too near. 41 points for Zach and it came mostly from his 11/13 three-point shooting. Wow! Shocked

Yeah, I think without Joel, it will take a lot of effort from Harden to win this game against a tough Chicago Bulls. They have some momentum now going into this game and they carry it very well.

Lavine really takes over the game, but he has a lot of help from Vucevic, Patrick Williams and of course DeRozan.

Great escape win by the Knicks as well against the Raptors. Toronto coming back and cut the lead to 4, but was unable to score in the last 11 seconds as Barnes shot was too strong.

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It was the Nets in a very close game against the Pelicans. No Zion but the Pels have the home court advantage but in the end Durant bring his A-game. I don't think that the Pels feels broken after this game. It just shows their character as a team with Zion.

NOP fought the game and almost defend their home court crowd, without Zion and Ingram, they gave Nets a tough game. CJ and Marshall for NOP while it's the Nets superstars who help the team in winning the game.

Yes, they almost steal a win without Zion on the lineup, they defended well Durant in the first 3 quarters, but when he needed to score, he was clutch and so is Kyrie.

Quote from: Pamadar on January 07, 2023, 01:00:32 AM

That last quarter run of the Nets really impress me while watching the game, KD and Kyrie with leading the offense
while Simmons and Claxton are really fighting for the ball and create good hassle play to help, close game till the
final minutes, it's the experienced that leads Nets to win the game.

Ben with 10 assist in this game, while Claxton was big in rebounds with 9.

But you gonna love Alvarado here, hustle and defense to go with 17 points.

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Zach LaVine had himself a night in the Bulls win over the 76ers. He shot 11-13 from 3 point range on his way to 41 points. One of the better performances of his career.

The Nets beat the Pelicans in a game that wasn’t so pretty. Durant scored 33 in an uncharacteristically inefficient night. It was Kyrie down the stretch who brought the game home for them though.

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Unfortunately I was not able to watch this whole Celtics vs Mavericks game, but I saw in some highlights that Marcus Smart played well, and mainly his main characteristic which is his defense, worked well in this game, because I also agree that "only" 23 points for Luka it's not much, I immediately imagined that for this to have happened either Luka played badly or he was very well guarded.

Good thing you didn't watch the game but it turns out it was just a boring game. Honestly, I didn't expect that the Mavericks will lose by blowout in that game, they were playing very well at home, so I was expecting that they will at least make it tougher for the Celtics to beat them.

I believe that most people also imagined that, but I believe it was a compilation of events that somehow "favored" the Celtics.

Luka scored few times, and had "only" 29 points, while the Celtics, most of the players had a relevant score.

It seems that with each passing year, the young players Tatum, Brown, Smart among others, are getting a significant improvement, that is, it was a hard work of the Celtics team in polishing these players.

I even dare to say, but (Tatum, Brown and Smart) could be a similar trio to the Celtics of a few years ago (Garnett, Pierce, Allen and Rondo), I know that these young players need to mature and improve to at least come close the level of that Celtics trio of yesteryear.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 06, 2023, 04:16:03 PM

The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.

Trade deadline is ending in February. They must do something to make the roster even better.
I mean they are on a winning streak yes, but it isn't sustainable and like you said, after that winning streak, they will go to a losing streak and that's why until now, the Lakers are still at the bottom and currently 4 games below 500.

Trade some of their players and get better players. With their superstars not playing for different reasons, they need a reliable scorer that will still help the team offensively. Some might say Schroeder is that guy and I might agree, but his performance in the bubble always comes to my mind and that only shows that he's kinda inconsistent still. Well, now that their superstars aren't playing, let's see how he will step up alongside Westbrook.

There is no other option now, they have some good players to trade but the problem is almost all the teams in the league have good chemistry with their players, so what the Lakers will be getting back might be banged up players, AD issue with injuries wont get them this far if he will continue to get injured, on and off playing will hurt the rotation, this might be the problem that the Lakers haven't figured out yet, or maybe they are just waiting for a move from other teams, if they make it to the playoffs this year without AD they will just making LeBron retired earlier because he will carry more loads for sure.

Yes, you're right but the team will always be moved and will be willing to cater the Lakers needs if there's a future 1st-round picks on the line as we know that almost every team needed that now. Currently, the Lakers are looking at the Pacers roster, Buddy Hield in particular and I don't think the Pacers will hand Hield that easily if the exchange is not good enough. Either way, we will know it soon as the trade deadline is already approaching.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 07, 2023, 02:54:19 AM

I don't really like what Mike Brown did back in Cleveland, he used Lebron way too much like he was a horse, and that ended horribly, as he was always exhausted. But he did learn a lot being the assistant of Coach Kerr, now we can see those changes in Sacramento Kings which is now 5th in the West.

True, Sacramento Kings are a big surprise this season, it's the same lineup but they have a better season. What we want to see now is consistency, and as long as their system works, I think they'll be in good shape in the playoffs. Getting in the playoffs might be possible for them, but winning in the playoffs is just another thing.

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Can't blame him if LeBron that time took his talent to the South Beach where Miami Heat is, I mean, Cavaliers was really nothing if LeBron wasn't in the eqaution and drafted there. But in fairness, LeBron came back and promised that he will bring the team their very first championship trophy which really happened when he came back. Wasn't a nice journey because the Dub Nation was also strong that time, adding Durant in their roster.

Well, it's also like a "shout out" for the Cavaliers at that time to do something better at surrounding him with good players and we all witnessed what they did when Lebron James came back. Pulled Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love just so the winning chance is higher and they did take the championship ring for that.
This could happen to Victor Wembanyama too if a team will be cheap at looking for players that will reflect his skills. It's not a one-man team, never, Warriors won't have that many championships if only Steph is the one doing all the offensive jobs.

Correct! It was a three-man job at the most where Green and the Splash Bros leads the team to get a win, but there's still a challenge that's why they needed some reliable role players to help protect the team in their defense to secure a win until they managed to get the championship. Just like LeBron, we all know that LeBron in Cleveland was so different but he couldn't still pull the championship if there's no Kyrie and Love in the team.

I have not seen a player who didn't need any help to win. There's always a sidekick or a left and right-hand man to help out. In the case of the GSW, it's not about just Steph anymore, nor Klay and Green. Steve Kerr is so good in his coaching skill that he could make a bench player a star if they work harder.
GP2, Damion Lee (now one of the sharpshooters of the Suns), Looney, and even Wiggins's inconsistency were changed. Now, Kuminga, Baldwin, Jerome, and Moody. I think coaching is his fate.

I don't really like what Mike Brown did back in Cleveland, he used Lebron way too much like he was a horse, and that ended horribly, as he was always exhausted. But he did learn a lot being the assistant of Coach Kerr, now we can see those changes in Sacramento Kings which is now 5th in the West.

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Quote from: stadus on January 07, 2023, 02:32:12 AM

Somehow, we as basketball fans would like to see again Lebron James playing in the post season, but we cannot just get ahead because their current roster will not probably get the chance to play at the playoffs considering how inconsistent they are, and players aren't that willing to step-up if there's a situation that needed them to be at the best version of themselves. So far, they are making an improvement, but I still doubt it.

They needed to make a move in this upcoming trade because if they won't then it's best to assume that they won't going to reach far enough, if they will get lucky, they will just probably get eliminated in the 1st round or worse in the play-in tournament.

Maybe there's a little chance to reach the playoffs but they will probably have an early exit because they will be battling the tough team in the NBA. Well, Lebron and Davis may have the experience, but the game now has chance, it's not only about 1 or 2 guys on the roster, it's about a good teamwork and the Lakers simply does not have that thing yet.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 06, 2023, 04:48:10 PM

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The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.

I think that's already a given fact this season, we are just waiting if they are going to make a move and trade some of their players, but so far they seems to satisfied as how they are doing, although for the fans, it's another worst season for them and the only bright light is Lebron breaking the record of another Laker great, Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

I do agree, they are borderline team and maybe they could be out of the playoffs again with this kind of lineup.

Or if they make it, probably gets eliminated by the top team in the West, like the Nuggets and Memphis team in the first round.

Somehow, we as basketball fans would like to see again Lebron James playing in the post season, but we cannot just get ahead because their current roster will not probably get the chance to play at the playoffs considering how inconsistent they are, and players aren't that willing to step-up if there's a situation that needed them to be at the best version of themselves. So far, they are making an improvement, but I still doubt it.

They needed to make a move in this upcoming trade because if they won't then it's best to assume that they won't going to reach far enough, if they will get lucky, they will just probably get eliminated in the 1st round or worse in the play-in tournament.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 06, 2023, 10:57:26 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on January 06, 2023, 09:28:59 AM

Can't blame him if LeBron that time took his talent to the South Beach where Miami Heat is, I mean, Cavaliers was really nothing if LeBron wasn't in the eqaution and drafted there. But in fairness, LeBron came back and promised that he will bring the team their very first championship trophy which really happened when he came back. Wasn't a nice journey because the Dub Nation was also strong that time, adding Durant in their roster.

Well, it's also like a "shout out" for the Cavaliers at that time to do something better at surrounding him with good players and we all witnessed what they did when Lebron James came back. Pulled Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love just so the winning chance is higher and they did take the championship ring for that.
This could happen to Victor Wembanyama too if a team will be cheap at looking for players that will reflect his skills. It's not a one-man team, never, Warriors won't have that many championships if only Steph is the one doing all the offensive jobs.

Correct! It was a three-man job at the most where Green and the Splash Bros leads the team to get a win, but there's still a challenge that's why they needed some reliable role players to help protect the team in their defense to secure a win until they managed to get the championship. Just like LeBron, we all know that LeBron in Cleveland was so different but he couldn't still pull the championship if there's no Kyrie and Love in the team.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 06, 2023, 10:10:19 PM

It was the Nets in a very close game against the Pelicans. No Zion but the Pels have the home court advantage but in the end Durant bring his A-game. I don't think that the Pels feels broken after this game. It just shows their character as a team with Zion.

NOP fought the game and almost defend their home court crowd, without Zion and Ingram, they gave Nets a tough game. CJ and Marshall for NOP while it's the Nets superstars who help the team in winning the game.

That last quarter run of the Nets really impress me while watching the game, KD and Kyrie with leading the offense
while Simmons and Claxton are really fighting for the ball and create good hassle play to help, close game till the
final minutes, it's the experienced that leads Nets to win the game.

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It was the Nets in a very close game against the Pelicans. No Zion but the Pels have the home court advantage but in the end Durant bring his A-game. I don't think that the Pels feels broken after this game. It just shows their character as a team with Zion.

Hornets beating the Bucks for now, 127-103.

Perhaps this is one surprised of this scheduled game. Still lots of games though, so let's see.

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A very bad loss for the Philadelphia 76ers against the Chicago Bulls.
That's how bad it gets whenever Joel Embiid is out. They got close to 8 points deficit but Zach LaVine didn't let them get too near. 41 points for Zach and it came mostly from his 11/13 three-point shooting. Wow! Shocked

Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 06, 2023, 01:17:48 PM

I would like to see teams implement a couple new rules such as must play x amount of games or lose a certain % of your contract for the year.

Same thing with sitting out games. On ly allow so many before they start being penalized.

I believe this might make players focus more on their bodies and conditioning.

Would very much love to see that happen.
Players today especially the stars will sit out most of the games when they are back-to-back. Why not implement a new contract that would lessen the games played but also lessen their pay? Show them the season schedule and point out the games they will sit, cut it to their salaries.
They will be paid for injuries because those are accidents.

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Quote from: boltz on January 06, 2023, 08:25:11 AM

What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.

He was check early, so he doesn't have the usual game that he had in the last couple of games or so. And as we all know now in the NBA, 40 points in the new 20, so if Luka scored 20 points then it won't help the team that much and still he needed another started to be consistent as well.

Quote from: boltz on January 06, 2023, 08:25:11 AM

I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...

Poor Clippers, like the Lakers there are a lot of hype on them when they got Kawhi and then Paul George. But so far the investments are not returning. Both of there superstars are always injured.

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I would like to see teams implement a couple new rules such as must play x amount of games or lose a certain % of your contract for the year.

Same thing with sitting out games. On ly allow so many before they start being penalized.

I believe this might make players focus more on their bodies and conditioning.

But I believe teams will not push that for players that are considered and established to be at a superstar level already.

Instead of giving these types of players a condition, they will just use the usual load management system.

The NBA themselves should rather implement that rules instead as teams will do everything to take care of their superstars.

Yes, I doubt that teams will going to implement this to their superstars, they will have to protect them at all cost, after all they invested on this stars with huge contracts already.

There could be a lot of incentives to be included for a new contract, like Zion's maintaining his body to a certain weight so that he can play more or teams going to the playoffs or finals will get more money.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 06, 2023, 08:31:01 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on January 06, 2023, 04:16:03 PM

The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.

Trade deadline is ending in February. They must do something to make the roster even better.
I mean they are on a winning streak yes, but it isn't sustainable and like you said, after that winning streak, they will go to a losing streak and that's why until now, the Lakers are still at the bottom and currently 4 games below 500.

Trade some of their players and get better players. With their superstars not playing for different reasons, they need a reliable scorer that will still help the team offensively. Some might say Schroeder is that guy and I might agree, but his performance in the bubble always comes to my mind and that only shows that he's kinda inconsistent still. Well, now that their superstars aren't playing, let's see how he will step up alongside Westbrook.

There is no other option now, they have some good players to trade but the problem is almost all the teams in the league have good chemistry with their players, so what the Lakers will be getting back might be banged up players, AD issue with injuries wont get them this far if he will continue to get injured, on and off playing will hurt the rotation, this might be the problem that the Lakers haven't figured out yet, or maybe they are just waiting for a move from other teams, if they make it to the playoffs this year without AD they will just making LeBron retired earlier because he will carry more loads for sure.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 06, 2023, 04:16:03 PM

The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.

Trade deadline is ending in February. They must do something to make the roster even better.
I mean they are on a winning streak yes, but it isn't sustainable and like you said, after that winning streak, they will go to a losing streak and that's why until now, the Lakers are still at the bottom and currently 4 games below 500.

Trade some of their players and get better players. With their superstars not playing for different reasons, they need a reliable scorer that will still help the team offensively. Some might say Schroeder is that guy and I might agree, but his performance in the bubble always comes to my mind and that only shows that he's kinda inconsistent still. Well, now that their superstars aren't playing, let's see how he will step up alongside Westbrook.

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Quote from: boltz on January 06, 2023, 08:25:11 AM

I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...

I think it was like 2019 when the Clippers were hyped by the media and other NBA fans because that is the year Kawhi Leonard joined the team. Understandable because he already made a name for himself by joining the Spurs in 2011 and was like one of the hottest players during the 2016 - 2017 season. Unfortunately though, he cannot really carry the Clippers all by himself. Pair him up with Paul George, another dude who's really prone to injury and you'll really have some problems.

Well, Kawhi Leonard was a proven elite or even recognized as the league's best player at the time when he left Toronto. The Clippers gambled a lot just to satisfy his demands including his rumored residence that is far from Los Angeles which result in some of their delayed travels, etc. Although he was probably worth it that time, Clippers' management doesn't care if Kawhi would play or not or if he plays with limited minutes because they just want to see him healthy during the playoffs.

Now, Clippers is becoming like a joke of an organization. Kawhi seems like he is not in his prime anymore. Maybe they can still reach the playoffs but what they are showing these days are not enough to go deeper.

Probably when they acquire Kawhi the expectations is that he will bring them to the championship level together with Paul George. But the history of injuries between this 2 players though, they can't even be healthy for one full season as a tandem.

Although they are winning games without either of the two, they can't be like this as a team, I guess it's time for Ballmer to look at this team right now and maybe make a bold move again.

Good point, both stars can play ball but if they are not healthy in the entire season, the team adjustments are really tough, if the management will take their move, it' better to deal it now while those stars still have good value.

Better to send them to a team that have a championship caliber not to waste the talent and ask
for future draft together with a another star type trade.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 06, 2023, 01:17:48 PM

I would like to see teams implement a couple new rules such as must play x amount of games or lose a certain % of your contract for the year.

Same thing with sitting out games. On ly allow so many before they start being penalized.

I believe this might make players focus more on their bodies and conditioning.

But I believe teams will not push that for players that are considered and established to be at a superstar level already.

Instead of giving these types of players a condition, they will just use the usual load management system.

The NBA themselves should rather implement that rules instead as teams will do everything to take care of their superstars.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 06, 2023, 04:48:10 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on January 06, 2023, 04:16:03 PM

The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.

I think that's already a given fact this season, we are just waiting if they are going to make a move and trade some of their players, but so far they seems to satisfied as how they are doing, although for the fans, it's another worst season for them and the only bright light is Lebron breaking the record of another Laker great, Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

I do agree, they are borderline team and maybe they could be out of the playoffs again with this kind of lineup.

Or if they make it, probably gets eliminated by the top team in the West, like the Nuggets and Memphis team in the first round.

With the current squad, we can say that they are not good competitors for the title chase, there are lot of super teams in the west
and even they manage to go for the play-in,

the chance to move forward and win a good spot for the playoff is tough for them, without AD the winning chance of Lakers
is really hard.

We will see if they will take some chance if they trade players and hope to get someone who can help in both offense and defense.

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