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legendary
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January 06, 2023, 06:10:46 PM
I believed that Luka can surpassed many of Lebron records at a young age, but we all know that the true gauge for greatness if how many rings you can have in your hand and so far, LUka has a long way to go to get even one at this point.

He is still very young and very promising. He can bring a championship to a team if that team can surround him with the right players. I think if he is after a ring, he should get out of Mavericks. Mavs took 20 years before they can surround Dirk with the right players to get a championship. If he wants to chase rings, he should go to teams that know how to surround their stars with the right players and have a good coach. I am thinking of Celtics, but that is currently very stacked right now. Maybe, San Antonio Spurs. The team needs a superstar right now and Pop could coach Doncic very well.

The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.

That win against the heat is promising though. They won without 2 of their stars. But, you are right. The Lakers should start making a move to acquire the player/s they need to support Lebron and AD. The current roster is not enough and is too inconsistent. The trade deadline is fast approaching, and I am not hearing any news about any acquisition or trade.
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January 06, 2023, 04:48:10 PM
The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.
I think that's already a given fact this season, we are just waiting if they are going to make a move and trade some of their players, but so far they seems to satisfied as how they are doing, although for the fans, it's another worst season for them and the only bright light is Lebron breaking the record of another Laker great, Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

I do agree, they are borderline team and maybe they could be out of the playoffs again with this kind of lineup.

Or if they make it, probably gets eliminated by the top team in the West, like the Nuggets and Memphis team in the first round.
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January 06, 2023, 04:16:03 PM
The problematic season is continuing for Lakers.

They have such an inconsistent form really. Sometimes they start a winning streak which stops sharply all of a sudden. It is a three-game winning streak for now and we will see how long this will go on. It feels like they will finish the regular season on the brink of the playoff area. But I don't know if they would stay inside of it or outside. Because this performance isn't credible enough to be sure of something about their future. Lebron must still be quite frustrated at his team now. Because he is still playing really competitively.
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January 06, 2023, 04:11:47 PM
The next All-Star NBA game this 2023 season is right around the corner, and regarding the updated voting I think Lebron James and Kevin Durant was still the favorite to be captains of the team, and their guards for the West is Stephen Curry, and for the East is Kyrie Irving, surely enough I am excited about who's going to be MVP again, I have seen that Russell Westbrick was on the list and many are complaining about Austin Reaves getting on the list aswell, which is I really think seems OK and surely Shai Gilgeous-Alexander have made it while he is extremely great at playing at the Oklahoma City Thunder,

While here is the list for the All-star voting for now, I really don't know if this is updated and I have just seen it on the news,


It's unexpected to see Westbrook on this list, considering that he performs pretty mediocre, and it's even funny that he already has more votes than Leonard, Lillard, and Booker. By the way, it's also surprising that Davis already has over 2 million votes. Don't get me wrong, Davis deserves to be in the All-star game, but the problem is that he's still injured, and there's no exact timeline for his return. So I wouldn't be surprised if Davis misses the upcoming All-star game.
I couldn't believe my eyes when I see the votes for Westbrook also. I actually like him but he didn't deserve that much vote. I don't understand who votes for him. Lakers fans? Fans of his old teams? I genuinely wonder that. All star voting is always not objective and we got used to see interesting and unexpected results all the time but still, this one just seem so bizarre to me.

What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.
I don't have a specific reason for the performance of Mavs but these things happen in the regular season. Maybe they were just too tired or just not on their good day. Also Celtics surprise me sometimes by how good they are. Unreasonably, I don't expect them to be too good and they usually are. Like how they got to the finals last year. Maybe Mavs were just having a bad day or Celtics were too good. It doesn't mean that things will be same in the playoffs.
legendary
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January 06, 2023, 03:47:11 PM
I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...

I think it was like 2019 when the Clippers were hyped by the media and other NBA fans because that is the year Kawhi Leonard joined the team. Understandable because he already made a name for himself by joining the Spurs in 2011 and was like one of the hottest players during the 2016 - 2017 season. Unfortunately though, he cannot really carry the Clippers all by himself. Pair him up with Paul George, another dude who's really prone to injury and you'll really have some problems.

Well, Kawhi Leonard was a proven elite or even recognized as the league's best player at the time when he left Toronto. The Clippers gambled a lot just to satisfy his demands including his rumored residence that is far from Los Angeles which result in some of their delayed travels, etc. Although he was probably worth it that time, Clippers' management doesn't care if Kawhi would play or not or if he plays with limited minutes because they just want to see him healthy during the playoffs.

Now, Clippers is becoming like a joke of an organization. Kawhi seems like he is not in his prime anymore. Maybe they can still reach the playoffs but what they are showing these days are not enough to go deeper.

Probably when they acquire Kawhi the expectations is that he will bring them to the championship level together with Paul George. But the history of injuries  between this 2 players though, they can't even be healthy for one full season as a tandem.

Although they are winning games without either of the two, they can't be like this as a team, I guess it's time for Ballmer to look at this team right now and maybe make a bold move again.
legendary
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January 06, 2023, 02:39:58 PM
The next All-Star NBA game this 2023 season is right around the corner, and regarding the updated voting I think Lebron James and Kevin Durant was still the favorite to be captains of the team, and their guards for the West is Stephen Curry, and for the East is Kyrie Irving, surely enough I am excited about who's going to be MVP again, I have seen that Russell Westbrick was on the list and many are complaining about Austin Reaves getting on the list aswell, which is I really think seems OK and surely Shai Gilgeous-Alexander have made it while he is extremely great at playing at the Oklahoma City Thunder,

While here is the list for the All-star voting for now, I really don't know if this is updated and I have just seen it on the news,




All star voting is a complete joke.  Austin reeves as an all star lol.  And on the east Derrick rose doesn't even play!! (And I'm a knicks fan).  Sometimes it's more just big market voting since there is mass in numbers of fans.  All star game is fun to watch in the 4th quarter but before then it's a little meh anyway.  Every year professional sports all star games get worse and worse.
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January 06, 2023, 01:17:48 PM
I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...

I think it was like 2019 when the Clippers were hyped by the media and other NBA fans because that is the year Kawhi Leonard joined the team. Understandable because he already made a name for himself by joining the Spurs in 2011 and was like one of the hottest players during the 2016 - 2017 season. Unfortunately though, he cannot really carry the Clippers all by himself. Pair him up with Paul George, another dude who's really prone to injury and you'll really have some problems.

What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.

I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...
It seems like the Clippers are always injured like the Lakers. Kawhi and Paul George sit out quite a bit. Maybe it's an LA thing?

Maybe not just an LA thing. Kawhi and Paul George are both injury-prone throughout their whole career. Just think of them like glass cannons that are only good for a couple of games and then they have to take an extended rest in order to get back in shape unlike other players.
I would like to see teams implement a couple new rules such as must play x amount of games or lose a certain % of your contract for the year.

Same thing with sitting out games. On ly allow so many before they start being penalized.

I believe this might make players focus more on their bodies and conditioning.
legendary
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January 06, 2023, 12:53:42 PM
The next All-Star NBA game this 2023 season is right around the corner, and regarding the updated voting I think Lebron James and Kevin Durant was still the favorite to be captains of the team, and their guards for the West is Stephen Curry, and for the East is Kyrie Irving, surely enough I am excited about who's going to be MVP again, I have seen that Russell Westbrick was on the list and many are complaining about Austin Reaves getting on the list aswell, which is I really think seems OK and surely Shai Gilgeous-Alexander have made it while he is extremely great at playing at the Oklahoma City Thunder,

While here is the list for the All-star voting for now, I really don't know if this is updated and I have just seen it on the news,


It's unexpected to see Westbrook on this list, considering that he performs pretty mediocre, and it's even funny that he already has more votes than Leonard, Lillard, and Booker. By the way, it's also surprising that Davis already has over 2 million votes. Don't get me wrong, Davis deserves to be in the All-star game, but the problem is that he's still injured, and there's no exact timeline for his return. So I wouldn't be surprised if Davis misses the upcoming All-star game.
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January 06, 2023, 12:51:15 PM
Good thing you didn't watch the game but it turns out it was just a boring game. Honestly, I didn't expect that the Mavericks will lose by blowout in that game, they were playing very well at home, so I was expecting that they will at least make it tougher for the Celtics to beat them.
And isn't it in their home court? so fans are disappointed for sure to see their team lost his big as if there was no energy on the Mavs itself. And this is what we are talking earlier that when Luka doesn't get any help, their team will be doom.

So for him to score in 23 points is not that much for team to win the game. And so we go back as who will actually need to step and help him out specially in crucial games down the line.
They've face the best team in the East, although Celtics have been very inconsistent lately, they are still very good team and so I'm not surprised that they have win the game against the Mavs even at their homecourt.

They have the best defense in the league if I'm not mistaken, and they were able to cover Luka from the first quarter and didn't allow him to take over.

Tatum too has a quite but very impressive night.
Mavs are building a great team around Doncic, many people disagree with that but they are slowly getting there if you ask me. Wood and Dinwiddie are great players. If you could put Dinwiddie at PG (he can play SG too) and Doncic at SG, and Wood at Center, that means they just need some better defense and scoring at 3 and 4.

They could get someone like Tatum and would be a title contender instantly, and yeah they won't be getting anyone that good, but being one great player away from title is still a good level to be in. So far Celtics has a better team all around, and Tatum is a superstar as well, they are going to be a great East team for another 5-6 years if they can keep the core team running.
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January 06, 2023, 12:43:38 PM
Really looking forward to the Brooklyn Nets vs New Orleans Pelicans game tonight on ESPN. A shame that Zion won’t be playing, but we should still get a look at Durant and Kyrie who I feel haven’t gotten many nationally televised games this year. If Zion was also playing I think this would be my favorite game of the year to watch so far. It should still be worth the watch though, but I think without Zion the Nets should be able to take this one.
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January 06, 2023, 11:49:00 AM
We see some crazy scores this season but nobody can pass 60 points yet. The closest one was Embiid with 59. Who do you think will pass 60 first?

Embiid 59
Booker 58
Davis 55
Embiid 53
Booker 51
Garland 51
Curry 50

We can update this with new leader:
Donovan Mitchell - 71 points
Luka Doncic - 60 points
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 55 points

Congratulations to new leader. Do you think somebody else can pass this 71 points this season?
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January 06, 2023, 11:38:08 AM
Lakers seem to be getting desperate but still unwilling to make any major moves with their roster. The latest word is that they intend to workout DeMarcus Cousins next week for a possible roster spot. Cousins hasn’t been the same since his injuries, but I’m sure he can still be a productive piece. I’m not sure he’s championship caliber these days, so I’m not sure if this is a good thing or not. It’s definitely not enough to get LeBron to the Finals.
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January 06, 2023, 11:17:28 AM
I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...

I think it was like 2019 when the Clippers were hyped by the media and other NBA fans because that is the year Kawhi Leonard joined the team. Understandable because he already made a name for himself by joining the Spurs in 2011 and was like one of the hottest players during the 2016 - 2017 season. Unfortunately though, he cannot really carry the Clippers all by himself. Pair him up with Paul George, another dude who's really prone to injury and you'll really have some problems.

Well, Kawhi Leonard was a proven elite or even recognized as the league's best player at the time when he left Toronto. The Clippers gambled a lot just to satisfy his demands including his rumored residence that is far from Los Angeles which result in some of their delayed travels, etc. Although he was probably worth it that time, Clippers' management doesn't care if Kawhi would play or not or if he plays with limited minutes because they just want to see him healthy during the playoffs.

Now, Clippers is becoming like a joke of an organization. Kawhi seems like he is not in his prime anymore. Maybe they can still reach the playoffs but what they are showing these days are not enough to go deeper.
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January 06, 2023, 10:57:26 AM
Can't blame him if LeBron that time took his talent to the South Beach where Miami Heat is, I mean, Cavaliers was really nothing if LeBron wasn't in the eqaution and drafted there. But in fairness, LeBron came back and promised that he will bring the team their very first championship trophy which really happened when he came back. Wasn't a nice journey because the Dub Nation was also strong that time, adding Durant in their roster.
Well, it's also like a "shout out" for the Cavaliers at that time to do something better at surrounding him with good players and we all witnessed what they did when Lebron James came back. Pulled Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love just so the winning chance is higher and they did take the championship ring for that.
This could happen to Victor Wembanyama too if a team will be cheap at looking for players that will reflect his skills. It's not a one-man team, never, Warriors won't have that many championships if only Steph is the one doing all the offensive jobs.
What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.
Tatum got hot. That's what happened and the Mavs got a bad off night. All of them cannot find their rhythm even if they are one of the best when it comes to shooting outside. It happens but it's just sad it did at their homecourt.
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January 06, 2023, 10:55:27 AM
I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...

I think it was like 2019 when the Clippers were hyped by the media and other NBA fans because that is the year Kawhi Leonard joined the team. Understandable because he already made a name for himself by joining the Spurs in 2011 and was like one of the hottest players during the 2016 - 2017 season. Unfortunately though, he cannot really carry the Clippers all by himself. Pair him up with Paul George, another dude who's really prone to injury and you'll really have some problems.

What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.

I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...
It seems like the Clippers are always injured like the Lakers. Kawhi and Paul George sit out quite a bit. Maybe it's an LA thing?

Maybe not just an LA thing. Kawhi and Paul George are both injury-prone throughout their whole career. Just think of them like glass cannons that are only good for a couple of games and then they have to take an extended rest in order to get back in shape unlike other players.
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January 06, 2023, 10:45:52 AM
What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.

I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...
It seems like the Clippers are always injured like the Lakers. Kawhi and Paul George sit out quite a bit. Maybe it's an LA thing?
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January 06, 2023, 09:28:59 AM
Lebron took years before he can get a championship although he was a promising rookie at the start of his career.

He made an easy shortcut by joining Wade and Bosh in Miami, just like Durant, he also joined Curry and Thompson to win championships. If there's no hope in a team, then that talent needs to be taken to a team that has a decent chance of winning a championship. Well, so much expectation from him, we all know how talented he is, but this is NBA, the biggest league in the world, so he also need to maintain himself to be healthy, so as not to waste his talent.

Can't blame him if LeBron that time took his talent to the South Beach where Miami Heat is, I mean, Cavaliers was really nothing if LeBron wasn't in the eqaution and drafted there. But in fairness, LeBron came back and promised that he will bring the team their very first championship trophy which really happened when he came back. Wasn't a nice journey because the Dub Nation was also strong that time, adding Durant in their roster.
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January 06, 2023, 09:14:06 AM

So we are in a different era right now that as Luka said, it's easy to score in the NBA. And we can add to the sports medicine and trainings too has progressed in the last 20 years. A lot has really contributed why we are now seeing players scoring 40 points and higher per night.

Let's just appreciate how they play right now and so far, this is the most surprising season we had in the last 10 years because of how the star players in the teams turning their games into something historical play. With them being consistent in making their shots to score more than 50 points, they are about to surpass some great records this season and they are a few more points to be in the second but Kobe's still the best one after Wilt's 100. Do you guys think Victor Wembanyama can be the next Wilt Chamberlain? let's see if he gonna score more points in his first-season debut in the NBA.

That's quite a pressure you've got there for Victor Wembanyama, still too premature for that topic because the kid is still not in the league right now. But I do understand and truth is, there's a good possibility that he will break some records considering how good he is already and considering the era he is in now. The kid already got the height and talent needed, he's lacking a build right now to look buffed and it's still a mystery what's his future.
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January 06, 2023, 08:25:11 AM
What happened with Luka last night ? I think nothing happened with him personally as he was still the best man of Mavs but yet , none of this team mates managed to help him score or even assist him in scoring and Celtics immediately took advantage of this situation and managed to put 29 points in front by the end of the game which is kinda crazy considering Mavs had a pretty decent winning streak... . Tatum is for sure an MVP candidate after another spectacular performance from his side.

I'm still trying to understand Clippers as an ORG as this team is playing great basketball sometimes and the other times , they are considering basketball a joke...and if I remember well and I do , Clippers was the most hyped team some years ago right ? look what this hype made to them a few years later...
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January 06, 2023, 06:36:13 AM
^^ If I'm not mistaken, that lists is updated as of December 31.

Anyhow, I'm sure some of you may have recalled as we have a argument whether Lauri Markkanen is an All-Star. This is way in the beginning where the Jazz are on top, and it looks like he is being rewarded now as he enters the list.

And so much for that debate though, we have the answers now.  Grin

We can't complain about the lists though, it's about their fans who voted for them.
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