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Quote from: Yaunfitda on December 27, 2024, 03:37:35 AM

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When a player doesn’t like where they are, they often just go through the motions, contributing the bare minimum while ensuring they avoid injury to maintain their trade value. If that’s the case, it could explain his recent performances.

That's what I'm trying to say, we've seen his performance although he rises to the occasion during playoff and last year they had a incredible run although he got injured. So there's a lot of if on Jimmy right now if he still wants to be a Heat for the rest of his career or chase other teams like the Warriors, with Kuminga in talks for a trade.

I don't think it's up to him. It's the Miami Heat that will decide last. They didn't give him the extension for a reason and one of them is not acquiring a good player during the trade season and even until now. They missed a lot of opportunities so they are back to square one. It's either they will rebuild and let Jimmy Butler go to acquire a lengthy salary cap or they could still sacrifice one more year with him and try to pair him with someone else before the trade deadline.

Anyway, that Christmas special by the Warriors versus the Lakers was definitely classic.

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NBA delivers most-watched Christmas Day in 5 years
NBA Christmas Day viewership increases 84% vs. last year, averaging 5.25 million viewers per game in the U.S.

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The Los Angeles Lakers’ 115-113 victory over the Golden State Warriors – which featured a thrilling duel between LeBron James and Stephen Curry – led the way averaging 7.76 million viewers and peaking with 8.32 million viewers at 10:30 p.m. ET. It was the most-watched NBA regular season and Christmas Day game in five years and up 499% vs. the comparable window last year.

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-christmas-day-2024-most-watched-five-years
It was damn awesome and I really wish more games were like this although I prefer the Warriors to win that match.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 26, 2024, 09:04:48 PM

If he will not get traded this trade deadline, I'm pretty sure he will opt out on his final year of his contract and will be a free agent, or maybe the Heat will go to a sign-and-trade deal in the off-season. Whatever the case is, he will be traded either this regular season, or next season.

But those are just rumors, did Butler really ask for a trade? If he did, then you might be right. However, if he’s not giving 100% like before, it could be because he’s no longer inspired or invested in the team.

When a player doesn’t like where they are, they often just go through the motions, contributing the bare minimum while ensuring they avoid injury to maintain their trade value. If that’s the case, it could explain his recent performances.

There's a rumor spreading about that but the Heat management is clearly stating that they are not trading Butler check this https://www.wptv.com/sports/basketball/heat/pat-riley-says-the-miami-heat-will-not-trade-jimmy-butler

Maybe he's not really happy but that doesn't mean he want to be traded on other team. Miami still seeing Butler as valuable player so provably they will work things out to sort some issues and make everyone happy. So lets see if there's big movement that will happen on Heat this season.

The news though came from Shams himself:

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1871948946345689131

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Six-time NBA All-Star Jimmy Butler prefers a trade out of Miami ahead of the Feb. 6 deadline, league sources told ESPN.

So we really don't know who is telling the truth right now. The deadline is in February and usually days or even hours before the deadline itself, there are a lot of close trades that will really surprise us. So everything is possible from now up to the trade deadline.

Not just Butler but there could be big names as well.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 27, 2024, 01:56:04 AM

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If he will not get traded this trade deadline, I'm pretty sure he will opt out on his final year of his contract and will be a free agent, or maybe the Heat will go to a sign-and-trade deal in the off-season. Whatever the case is, he will be traded either this regular season, or next season.

But those are just rumors, did Butler really ask for a trade? If he did, then you might be right. However, if he’s not giving 100% like before, it could be because he’s no longer inspired or invested in the team.

When a player doesn’t like where they are, they often just go through the motions, contributing the bare minimum while ensuring they avoid injury to maintain their trade value. If that’s the case, it could explain his recent performances.

There's a rumor spreading about that but the Heat management is clearly stating that they are not trading Butler check this https://www.wptv.com/sports/basketball/heat/pat-riley-says-the-miami-heat-will-not-trade-jimmy-butler

Maybe he's not really happy but that doesn't mean he want to be traded on other team. Miami still seeing Butler as valuable player so provably they will work things out to sort some issues and make everyone happy. So lets see if there's big movement that will happen on Heat this season.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 27, 2024, 01:56:04 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 26, 2024, 09:04:48 PM

If he will not get traded this trade deadline, I'm pretty sure he will opt out on his final year of his contract and will be a free agent, or maybe the Heat will go to a sign-and-trade deal in the off-season. Whatever the case is, he will be traded either this regular season, or next season.

But those are just rumors, did Butler really ask for a trade? If he did, then you might be right. However, if he’s not giving 100% like before, it could be because he’s no longer inspired or invested in the team.

There is no request as far as I know, and he try to quash the rumor. However, sources are legit that's why there is a noise about it. And even Pat Riley has step up and says that it's not true. But it's hard to dismissed as we have seen that the Heat is struggling this season so it's really concerning, so maybe he is considering a trade.

Quote from: Natalim on December 27, 2024, 01:56:04 AM

When a player doesn’t like where they are, they often just go through the motions, contributing the bare minimum while ensuring they avoid injury to maintain their trade value. If that’s the case, it could explain his recent performances.

That's what I'm trying to say, we've seen his performance although he rises to the occasion during playoff and last year they had a incredible run although he got injured. So there's a lot of if on Jimmy right now if he still wants to be a Heat for the rest of his career or chase other teams like the Warriors, with Kuminga in talks for a trade.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 26, 2024, 09:04:48 PM

If he will not get traded this trade deadline, I'm pretty sure he will opt out on his final year of his contract and will be a free agent, or maybe the Heat will go to a sign-and-trade deal in the off-season. Whatever the case is, he will be traded either this regular season, or next season.

But those are just rumors, did Butler really ask for a trade? If he did, then you might be right. However, if he’s not giving 100% like before, it could be because he’s no longer inspired or invested in the team.

When a player doesn’t like where they are, they often just go through the motions, contributing the bare minimum while ensuring they avoid injury to maintain their trade value. If that’s the case, it could explain his recent performances.

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The game was an incredible one to watch, I just watched highlights and not the full game, but even the highlights looked incredible without a doubt. The last shot that Curry had? Like he shot that from all the way back, it's really insane, both last three pointers he had were incredible without a doubt.

Lakers managed to get Reaves into the play when Lebron couldn't and that was not what Warriors expected, the whole team expected Lebron to take the shot, which left Reaves one on one and helped him score the last bucket. It was definitely an incredible game, and even more incredible is the fact that Curry and Lebron are still providing such a great entertainment at their age. They have been at the top of the game for so long, Lebron even more so of course, nearly two decades now, that's insane, but also Curry has been prominent in NBA and even future of kids, for over a decade now. We are seeing people like Wemby, who are 15 feet tall lol, and still shooting threes at a good rate thanks to Curry.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 26, 2024, 02:06:11 PM

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Miami Heat has already released statement about Jimmy Butler on trade rumors. Here is the statement from the Miami Heat x Pat Riley:

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19tJRy4TGi/

Statement from Pat Riley

"We usually don't comment on rumors, but all this speculation has become a distraction to the team and is not fair to the players and coaches. Therefore, we will make it clear - We are not trading Jimmy Butler."

Reading the comment from that post, they still believe that Jimmy Butler will be traded. Lol, just in case that happens, I want to see Jimmy Butler playing in Charlotte. The question is, what is the chance of that will going to happen.

I don't know if I would believe anything that Pat Riley has to say. He seems like he would only make a statement to manipulate the situation. Still, everyone seems to say Jimmy isn't going anywhere so we'll see. I think where there's smoke there is fire and Jimmy is probably worried about his reputation and doesn't want to be looked at like LeBron for leaving Cleveland. It seems obvious that Jimmy wants out though. Even if he does stick around to finish the season, I'm guessing he starts next year in a new uniform.

I agree with you. I believe Butler really wanted to be out of Miami as well already because maybe he doesn't see Miami as a title contender this season and that's the reason why he prefers being traded to a "WIN-NOW" team. I've seen a comment on that post on Facebook saying, "That means, they're trading him." which is hilarious especially in the NBA where a trade can just happen at a time where we aren't expecting for it to happen.

If he will not get traded this trade deadline, I'm pretty sure he will opt out on his final year of his contract and will be a free agent, or maybe the Heat will go to a sign-and-trade deal in the off-season. Whatever the case is, he will be traded either this regular season, or next season.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 26, 2024, 02:06:11 PM

Quote from: xLays on December 26, 2024, 02:02:31 PM

Miami Heat has already released statement about Jimmy Butler on trade rumors. Here is the statement from the Miami Heat x Pat Riley:

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19tJRy4TGi/

Statement from Pat Riley

"We usually don't comment on rumors, but all this speculation has become a distraction to the team and is not fair to the players and coaches. Therefore, we will make it clear - We are not trading Jimmy Butler."

Reading the comment from that post, they still believe that Jimmy Butler will be traded. Lol, just in case that happens, I want to see Jimmy Butler playing in Charlotte. The question is, what is the chance of that will going to happen.

I don't know if I would believe anything that Pat Riley has to say. He seems like he would only make a statement to manipulate the situation. Still, everyone seems to say Jimmy isn't going anywhere so we'll see. I think where there's smoke there is fire and Jimmy is probably worried about his reputation and doesn't want to be looked at like LeBron for leaving Cleveland. It seems obvious that Jimmy wants out though. Even if he does stick around to finish the season, I'm guessing he starts next year in a new uniform.

True, maybe they just want to have leverage, but for me it seems that Jimmy really wanted to go out already. But Pat Riley might be adamant about it and so he releases this statement to quash everything as it might affect the team itself.

But if any case, they can't really stop Jimmy from looking outside, I guess he wanted more to go to a good team not like what the Heat is right now.

Trade could really be difficult, but if Pat Riley is happy on what is in the trading block, for sure he will let Jimmy go. And probably this is the best thing for Jimmy, as he is no longer young at 35 years old. Go and get a great contract.

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Quote from: ingiltere on December 26, 2024, 03:53:59 PM

The Christmas matches were all excellent. We've always seen very competitive games. I watched all the games and I enjoyed it immensely and I'm sure everyone who loves the NBA enjoyed it as well. As LeBron said, Christmas is the day of the NBA.
All the games were very close. There were incredible individual performances. Wemby, Bridges, Kyrie, Maxey, Tatum, LeBron, Curry, all of them had great performances. I haven't had such a good NBA night in a long time. I don't have high hopes for the All-Star game, so yesterday's games will be special for me until the playoffs.

They had some good match ups, Lebron vs Steph, Philly vs Boston (which was a shocking result), Phoenix taking down Denver just a crazy night of basketball overall and great for the sport. I think the NBA is feeling the pressure of the NFL trying to take away Christmas honestly and they put some of the best match ups on for Christmas to let the NFL know Christmas is theirs.

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The Christmas matches were all excellent. We've always seen very competitive games. I watched all the games and I enjoyed it immensely and I'm sure everyone who loves the NBA enjoyed it as well. As LeBron said, Christmas is the day of the NBA.
All the games were very close. There were incredible individual performances. Wemby, Bridges, Kyrie, Maxey, Tatum, LeBron, Curry, all of them had great performances. I haven't had such a good NBA night in a long time. I don't have high hopes for the All-Star game, so yesterday's games will be special for me until the playoffs.

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Quote from: xLays on December 26, 2024, 02:02:31 PM

Miami Heat has already released statement about Jimmy Butler on trade rumors. Here is the statement from the Miami Heat x Pat Riley:

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19tJRy4TGi/

Statement from Pat Riley

"We usually don't comment on rumors, but all this speculation has become a distraction to the team and is not fair to the players and coaches. Therefore, we will make it clear - We are not trading Jimmy Butler."

Reading the comment from that post, they still believe that Jimmy Butler will be traded. Lol, just in case that happens, I want to see Jimmy Butler playing in Charlotte. The question is, what is the chance of that will going to happen.

I don't know if I would believe anything that Pat Riley has to say. He seems like he would only make a statement to manipulate the situation. Still, everyone seems to say Jimmy isn't going anywhere so we'll see. I think where there's smoke there is fire and Jimmy is probably worried about his reputation and doesn't want to be looked at like LeBron for leaving Cleveland. It seems obvious that Jimmy wants out though. Even if he does stick around to finish the season, I'm guessing he starts next year in a new uniform.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 25, 2024, 11:11:04 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 25, 2024, 07:51:55 PM

The Jimmy Butler drama continues as he wants to be out of Miami before the trade deadline which is February 6th. LINK

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Six-time NBA All-Star Jimmy Butler prefers a trade out of Miami ahead of the Feb. 6 deadline, league sources told ESPN.

ESPN reported in the Inside Pass on Dec. 10 that the Heat are willing to listen to trade offers for Butler, and that Butler wants a win-now contender in any deal. Butler has not formally requested a trade, sources said, but is believed to be ready for his exit.

I highlighted "win-now contender" because he wants to win a title now that he's nearing on his post-prime years. The Heat now wants to center their team around Bam and Herro which are obviously younger. Based on that article, he's open to trade destinations such as Houston, Golden State, Phoenix, and Dallas. With these 4 teams, I believe the most team that will need him the most is the Golden State Warriors especially now that Steph is at the same age as Butler, they're on a win-now mode as well. They can just trade Wiggins, some young players and draft picks.

Butler will have a player option next year so if things will not be working on his way, he can just opt out and be a free agent. TBH, the receiving team would be at a disadvantage I believe especially if they will throw many players just to get him and, in the end, he will just become a free agent. It's like throwing your future into somebody that can't help you to win a title for at least 3 years.

Would love to see Jimmy Butler traded to the Pacers but I doubt they could make that happen. Usually I don't wanna see my team pick up older players but Butler still has a few years left and could really help a team become a contender. Guess it would really depend on what the Pacers had to give up for him, Long as they kept Myles Turner, Haliburton, and Siakim they could trade the rest of the team IMO.

Miami Heat has already released statement about Jimmy Butler on trade rumors. Here is the statement from the Miami Heat x Pat Riley:

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19tJRy4TGi/

Statement from Pat Riley

"We usually don't comment on rumors, but all this speculation has become a distraction to the team and is not fair to the players and coaches. Therefore, we will make it clear - We are not trading Jimmy Butler."

Reading the comment from that post, they still believe that Jimmy Butler will be traded. Lol, just in case that happens, I want to see Jimmy Butler playing in Charlotte. The question is, what is the chance of that will going to happen.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 26, 2024, 08:57:20 AM

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Curry hit some insane back-to-back shots to tie the game, but unfortunately, the Warriors couldn’t hold their defense and allowed Reaves to make the game-winning layup. I was really hoping the game would go to overtime as that was the only way the Warriors could cover the spread.

Even with AD unable to return, the Lakers still managed to beat the Warriors on their home court. This Warriors team just isn’t the same anymore. I keep promising not to back them, but somehow, I always end up breaking that promise. It’s frustrating!

That back-to-back basket excite the fans but unfortunately Reaves manage to made that layup and win the game, it's something that for sure those who back them expecting that they will play good at home all are dissapointed, especially that they are playing against AD-less Lakers, it was the determination of all Lakers players who gives them the win, LeBron leads them in scoring but Austin got his triple-double and that winning last shot that gives them the win.

Curry did have some great moments yesterday but it wasn’t enough. Even his end of game heroics were when the game was seemingly already out of reach. The highlights are less impressive in a loss. Wemby on the other hand not only got the win, but was a highlight machine. Some of the things he did yesterday were unreal.

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Quote from: stadus on December 26, 2024, 07:40:58 AM

Curry hit some insane back-to-back shots to tie the game, but unfortunately, the Warriors couldn’t hold their defense and allowed Reaves to make the game-winning layup. I was really hoping the game would go to overtime as that was the only way the Warriors could cover the spread.

Even with AD unable to return, the Lakers still managed to beat the Warriors on their home court. This Warriors team just isn’t the same anymore. I keep promising not to back them, but somehow, I always end up breaking that promise. It’s frustrating!

That back-to-back basket excite the fans but unfortunately Reaves manage to made that layup and win the game, it's something that for sure those who back them expecting that they will play good at home all are dissapointed, especially that they are playing against AD-less Lakers, it was the determination of all Lakers players who gives them the win, LeBron leads them in scoring but Austin got his triple-double and that winning last shot that gives them the win.

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Quote from: stadus on December 26, 2024, 07:40:58 AM

Curry hit some insane back-to-back shots to tie the game, but unfortunately, the Warriors couldn’t hold their defense and allowed Reaves to make the game-winning layup. I was really hoping the game would go to overtime as that was the only way the Warriors could cover the spread.

Even with AD unable to return, the Lakers still managed to beat the Warriors on their home court. This Warriors team just isn’t the same anymore. I keep promising not to back them, but somehow, I always end up breaking that promise. It’s frustrating!

Many people got disappointed on what they see since its like they are only good on early quarters but got choked on crucial minutes. Many people though that they already got the advantage on that game knowing that AD unable to return while Warriors is doing good and playing at home.

Guess nothing much to expect with them this season since its like they cannot keep up their momentum and at the end they end up losing.

But even though they get disappointing ending still this game is fun to watch.

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Curry hit some insane back-to-back shots to tie the game, but unfortunately, the Warriors couldn’t hold their defense and allowed Reaves to make the game-winning layup. I was really hoping the game would go to overtime as that was the only way the Warriors could cover the spread.

Even with AD unable to return, the Lakers still managed to beat the Warriors on their home court. This Warriors team just isn’t the same anymore. I keep promising not to back them, but somehow, I always end up breaking that promise. It’s frustrating!

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A good day of basketball. I think Christmas Day is the one thing the NBA is doing right these days. Having all the games on a single channel is a nice improvement. The only real surprise for me today was the Philadelphia 76ers beating the Boston Celtics. Other than that, the stars shined as expected and the better teams won.

To be fair, 76ers had their full healthy roster including Embiid while Maxey is on fire that he can duel with Tatum toe to toe. Boston has been losing a lot of their previous games so this is not a big surprise.

Besides, 76ers ranked should be higher if they have this line-up consistently without any injury. It’s not a bad lose for Boston since they are already losing prior to this match. Wink

We still need to see Paul George though to really contribute for Sixers and not just rely to Embid and Maxey. They've gotten him to be another scoring option but it seems that he is still struggling to make his impact on the team. I do agree that they should be in the better position but Joel has suffered some injuries early and then restriction minutes was put into him. But if they are completely healthy like the Bucks, they could really be a good team in the East and they can show their full strength and should in the better position by now. So let's see how their health will go and hopefully Joel is not as fragile this season like AD.

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The fact that Lakers are going nearly %50 recently is a good sign. I think giving Lebron that famous break helped them a lot, many Lakers fans are even calling for a week break for Lebron after every 15 games, which would be a new method of resting, but could really work out great for them. If they do that, like seriously give him a week break after every 15 games, there are 50 games left, which means about 3 weeks of break for him, and could help him a lot to keep himself rested for playoffs as well. That sounds like a good deal if you ask me and could get his 40 year old body to regenerate enough to do well at playoffs.

Plus, they are ranked seventh now, that seems like a good deal, one win and they are in playoffs and I believe they could do fine, they won't face anyone too tough this year.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 26, 2024, 01:05:18 AM

A good day of basketball. I think Christmas Day is the one thing the NBA is doing right these days. Having all the games on a single channel is a nice improvement. The only real surprise for me today was the Philadelphia 76ers beating the Boston Celtics. Other than that, the stars shined as expected and the better teams won.

To be fair, 76ers had their full healthy roster including Embiid while Maxey is on fire that he can duel with Tatum toe to toe. Boston has been losing a lot of their previous games so this is not a big surprise.

Besides, 76ers ranked should be higher if they have this line-up consistently without any injury. It’s not a bad lose for Boston since they are already losing prior to this match. Wink

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Quote from: ajanwalker on December 26, 2024, 01:53:48 AM

The team that won the California derby was the Los Angeles Lakers. The bad trend continues in Golden State. With the defeat in this match, they lost 9 times in the last 12 matches. They had a good start to the season, but they have been losing constantly lately. They need to catch a winning streak.
Draymond Green's very little contribution to points in recent matches also affects the team negatively in critical matches.
Although he contributed defensively with 10 rebounds in this match, his 3-pointer was bad for his team.
As for the Los Angeles Lakers, things seem to be going well for now. King LeBron is at the helm of his team at full capacity this year.

Yeah, not sure what happened to the Warriors lately, they started hot but they can't hold the momentum of winning. Now they have acquired Dennis Schröder, but still not enough for them to make that big win.

And then are known to be a good home team, but in this games against the Lakers, they disappoint their fans on Christmas game. There are now talks about Kuminga being offloaded by the Warriors as well. Maybe next year something big is going to happen to them within the trade deadline.

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