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February 08, 2025, 04:50:00 AM
The thing with Wiggins though is that he is inconsistent and it seems that his mindset is not there unlike when he joined the Warriors in 2022. And that's why I think he was traded as he no longer the Wiggins that they have known before and his game really goes down in the last 2 years.
Before Wiggins was traded to the Warriors, he was already inconsistent. In fact, the Warriors were the best team for him since he was able to win a championship there. But now that he's with the Miami Heat, it's a different culture, so he might be influenced to play more consistently. Though honestly, I don’t expect much from him, but hopefully, Coach Spo can unlock his consistency.

There could be a chance that Wiggins might still improved, just like when he join the Warriors, suddenly there is a shift in his mindset. He already post a heartfelt message to the Dub Nation, including team mates, coaches and everything around that City.

And then he concluded that he is ready to be in the Heat uniform. So maybe changing teams might do good for him in the latter part of his career. So let's see how he will do with the city of Miami then. He could be the next franchise player for them.
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February 08, 2025, 04:28:11 AM
The thing with Wiggins though is that he is inconsistent and it seems that his mindset is not there unlike when he joined the Warriors in 2022. And that's why I think he was traded as he no longer the Wiggins that they have known before and his game really goes down in the last 2 years.
Before Wiggins was traded to the Warriors, he was already inconsistent. In fact, the Warriors were the best team for him since he was able to win a championship there. But now that he's with the Miami Heat, it's a different culture, so he might be influenced to play more consistently. Though honestly, I don’t expect much from him, but hopefully, Coach Spo can unlock his consistency.
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February 08, 2025, 02:58:57 AM
There are rumours going around talking about Curry wanting a trade out of Warriors. I am not sure if it is true or not, but it would be too late if it was true, but even if we are talking about the summer period, it might be a huge blow to Warriors dynasty overall. In the end, we are going to see how these four players will do, we have no idea if they will be good enough but we know that they are looking decent right now.

Hmm, doesn't make sense since the trade deadline has elapsed already. Although it is possible, as the frustrations has been building after their last championship. His Splash brothers is gone, and the current roster is really choking and this could be the worst Warriors team that we have seen since they are a dynasty.

Wiggins played a lot from the bench, and he was more like Manu Ginobili for them, it is not about who starts but about who finishes the game situation. If they can make this team work, as in if they can make the teammates actually have chemistry, then the talent level will be big enough to actually do great during playoffs.

The thing with Wiggins though is that he is inconsistent and it seems that his mindset is not there unlike when he joined the Warriors in 2022. And that's why I think he was traded as he no longer the Wiggins that they have known before and his game really goes down in the last 2 years.
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February 08, 2025, 01:28:23 AM
There are rumours going around talking about Curry wanting a trade out of Warriors. I am not sure if it is true or not, but it would be too late if it was true, but even if we are talking about the summer period, it might be a huge blow to Warriors dynasty overall. In the end, we are going to see how these four players will do, we have no idea if they will be good enough but we know that they are looking decent right now.

Wiggins played a lot from the bench, and he was more like Manu Ginobili for them, it is not about who starts but about who finishes the game situation. If they can make this team work, as in if they can make the teammates actually have chemistry, then the talent level will be big enough to actually do great during playoffs.
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February 08, 2025, 12:32:34 AM
I feel bad for those bad trades and players like Dennis Schroder. Being passed on from here and there is tiring and disappointing. I've read some articles that he's announced his retirement. Is it for real?

He called the trade deadline as modern day slavery.

Well, this might be what he's getting for telling that. He's heading to the Pistons but I can't comprehend if he's retiring or not or those sources tell real thing.

This been reported by Shams Charania

He announce it and I guess he was just frustrated about what happen to his career since in short period of time he was traded to multiple teams.

BREAKING: Detroit Pistons guard Dennis Schröder is reportedly retiring from the NBA after a 12-year career, sources tell ESPN.

But I think there's Schroder didn't make a move yet towards this situation and he just say that word out of frustration but let see what will happen. To bad to see how his career end up like this since maybe if he just signed that $84 million offer by Lakers to him before then maybe he's still a big deal in NBA today.

That's probably his biggest mistakes that time when he doesn't want to sign with the Lakers that time. And after that his game goes down or the teams that he goes, is not a contender team. But we still don't know what the future holds though, maybe if he sign he could be traded as well but still that's a good sum of money.

And I do agree that it's more out of frustration, but he can go and still play in the Olympics representing Germany,

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February 08, 2025, 12:06:47 AM
Lakers already acquired Mark Williams from Hornets for Dalton Knecht
While Mark Williams could really fill the gap for AD but I am feeling that letting go of Dalton Knecht is not worth it for them. Well, what's done is done and he's going now to the Hornets and maybe he'd capitalize his talent there. And with all of these trades, look at PJ Tucker, he's traded and went to several teams within just 5 days.  Grin

We really don't know how good Dalton will be in the future, but the Lakers are willing to take that risk for now. So still a win win for them as they got a good big man and then who knows, maybe Dalton will thrive on other teams and take advantage of his shooting,
That makes sense. This is a gamble and risky trade for them but they are willing to make things right later on and test what will work for JJ as per Rob. I just can't help myself in believing on the kid because he's got the potential but maybe that's his destiny and he will be honed there after some years of being with them.
Yes, and we have seen teams taking the obvious risk, in the last five risk or so, but there was one team that might really go that far in taking risk, the Brooklyn Nets. KD, Harden, Irving and even took Ben Simmons. But it didn't fare good for them as we all know that their big three is gone and Ben Simmons are going to be in a buy out. But if you look at OKC, when they rebuild and trade KD and WB, now it's paying off with SGA, Chet and others that they have in the team, and since last year, they are very consistent in the top team in the West, they just have to get that needed experience. So as much as we can see a lot of potential on Dalton, we still don't know if he can be one of the best shooters in the league or if his career is going to prosper with the Lakers so Rob made the difficult decision to shift him to get Williams who already has some experience and numbers to show.
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February 07, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
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Williams, who is averaging 16.0 points, 9.8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. So that is a huge contribution if he can have this numbers in the Lakers uniform. It is also reported that Rob consulted with Luka about this trade and he was 100% down with that.

As per the report, Luka wanted a big men, like what he had in the Dallas uniform that he can ally-oop pass in Gafford and Lively. So expect the same plays that will screen for Luka and then that pass for a easy dunk.
The only problem that I see with Mark Williams is he's injury prone. Just for context, in the last 3 seasons that he's in the NBA, he only played around 85 games more or less and that's few considering how many games in total 3 seasons has. Aside from that, he's a great center, and he also got the starting position ahead of Hayes and Kleber and that shows how good he is currently.

He's a double-double machine and he average double-double in 9 of his last 10 games. Aside from him, the Lakers also has an athletic Hayes that can get those passes from Luka since he's a high-flyer as well. The Lakers might've lost a good developing player in Knecht, but they really need a paint defender after that shocking trade.
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February 07, 2025, 07:07:30 PM
Lakers already acquired Mark Williams from Hornets for Dalton Knecht
While Mark Williams could really fill the gap for AD but I am feeling that letting go of Dalton Knecht is not worth it for them. Well, what's done is done and he's going now to the Hornets and maybe he'd capitalize his talent there. And with all of these trades, look at PJ Tucker, he's traded and went to several teams within just 5 days.  Grin

We really don't know how good Dalton will be in the future, but the Lakers are willing to take that risk for now. So still a win win for them as they got a good big man and then who knows, maybe Dalton will thrive on other teams and take advantage of his shooting,
That makes sense. This is a gamble and risky trade for them but they are willing to make things right later on and test what will work for JJ as per Rob. I just can't help myself in believing on the kid because he's got the potential but maybe that's his destiny and he will be honed there after some years of being with them.

And for what it's worth for, Williams, who is averaging 16.0 points, 9.8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. So that is a huge contribution if he can have this numbers in the Lakers uniform. It is also reported that Rob consulted with Luka about this trade and he was 100% down with that.

As per the report, Luka wanted a big men, like what he had in the Dallas uniform that he can ally-oop pass in Gafford and Lively. So expect the same plays that will screen for Luka and then that pass for a easy dunk.
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February 07, 2025, 06:12:02 PM
To bad to see how his career end up like this since maybe if he just signed that $84 million offer by Lakers to him before then maybe he's still a big deal in NBA today.
This was really the turning point of his career. He was probably asking for more, which is why he didn’t accept the big contract from the Lakers, when in fact, that could have been a huge deal for him.

It’s just like what happened to Victor Oladipo, he also refused a massive contract from the Pacers, and look where he is now.
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February 07, 2025, 06:01:05 PM
LeBron is 2 points away from getting 40 tonight against the Warriors as we are down to the wire.

Luka was interviewed tonight and said he expects to make his Debut on Monday at home in Crypto.com Arena against the Utah Jazz. It was being speculated he would debut on Saturday but it looks like that’s not in the cards.

Edit: LeBron got it and became the second player to score 40 over the age of 40 (Michael Jordan).

1 point short of jordan's record of 43 points as a 40+ year old.   You know beon wants to beat that record and start racking up the senior records too.  It looks like after the luka announcement he has a little more pep in his step.  With them getting a decent center amd now luka i can see them making a deep run.  Their defense is what might hold them back in the end.
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February 07, 2025, 05:58:42 PM
Lakers already acquired Mark Williams from Hornets for Dalton Knecht
While Mark Williams could really fill the gap for AD but I am feeling that letting go of Dalton Knecht is not worth it for them. Well, what's done is done and he's going now to the Hornets and maybe he'd capitalize his talent there. And with all of these trades, look at PJ Tucker, he's traded and went to several teams within just 5 days.  Grin

We really don't know how good Dalton will be in the future, but the Lakers are willing to take that risk for now. So still a win win for them as they got a good big man and then who knows, maybe Dalton will thrive on other teams and take advantage of his shooting,
That makes sense. This is a gamble and risky trade for them but they are willing to make things right later on and test what will work for JJ as per Rob. I just can't help myself in believing on the kid because he's got the potential but maybe that's his destiny and he will be honed there after some years of being with them.
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February 07, 2025, 05:30:00 PM
I feel bad for those bad trades and players like Dennis Schroder. Being passed on from here and there is tiring and disappointing. I've read some articles that he's announced his retirement. Is it for real?

He called the trade deadline as modern day slavery.

Well, this might be what he's getting for telling that. He's heading to the Pistons but I can't comprehend if he's retiring or not or those sources tell real thing.

Homestly i can see him start to get blackballed for that type of comment.  Dude is making millions of dollars playing a game.  The fans that come to watch them play literally grind jist for enough scratch to go see them play and he is complaining he might have to change cities and teams lol. I know he really didmt mean anything too crazy but thats a dumb statement to make.  If he retires because he has to switch teams then peace out.
It's actually funny and this guy has been memeing with all of his reactions. I think that the transfer was already done to him and he's with the Pistons and that's his trade end point.

But you're right that he shouldn't make any statement like that. Well, I think him with the Pistons is another good place for him to help Cade and the gang to be on a better standing for this season.
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February 07, 2025, 04:28:15 PM
Breaking news guys Warriors and Miami is finalizing their deal to trade Butler in exchange for Wiggins,Schroeder,Anderson and protected first round pick.

As per Shams Charania https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1887308975843979528?t=ozLHlF3a4RuyQMRPobXj-A&s=19

Article regarding on this news https://sports.yahoo.com/jimmy-butler-trade-heat-send-disgruntled-star-to-warriors-after-trade-demand-suspensions-011558383.html

Is it going to be this time that the Golden State Warriors will be able to beat Lakers every time they face each other? Let's see if things will change with Butler.

This is what I am worried as well, Butler isn't the type of person that would be pushed around, we all know that and Draymond is always the leader of that pack, which he will make sure he reminds Butler at any given moment he gets.
That's fine.

We have to see on how things will go especially with Dray. He seems to be the boss man in the team but we also knew Jimmy won't allow someone to boss him around.
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February 07, 2025, 02:48:03 PM
Two alpha with Butler and Draymond? There could be more drama that Draymond and KD, or Draymond and Jordan Poole. This is two personalities that for sure are going to clashed along the way and hopefully the Warriors really knows what they are doing here with that move to get Jimmy Butler.

I heard that they are really desperate and so they offered Wiggs and perhaps you can't blame them as Wiggs is somewhat lost his touch in the rotation and inconsistent in the last three years or so. Let's see, hopefully we are all wrong the Butler might thrived in the Warriors culture.
This is what I am worried as well, Butler isn't the type of person that would be pushed around, we all know that and Draymond is always the leader of that pack, which he will make sure he reminds Butler at any given moment he gets.

Butler may let it slide for a while because he is new there, and he has requested his way out of many teams so far, so he may just let it be for a while, but if Draymond pushes him too much, Butler isn't going to be the one who is taking a punch this time. I am not sure how this will work on the long run, we are going to end up seeing too much in the end, and we could make sure that this ends up being a little different as well. It can't be realized that we could make this work that easily, we are going to end up with much bigger issues if they do not get along well.
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February 07, 2025, 07:14:13 AM
Wiggins is much better than Butler especially on crucial times. They give up even a 1st round pick just acquired Jimmy that is so inconsistent especially on playoffs.

I wonder if he gives a significant difference now on GS while they really need a good center instead of a Forward which Wiggins is already good now. Center is now the most crucial part of GS because they don’t have defense.

I don’t see this line-up getting any ring.
This is true, I have no idea why Warriors did something like this. I am pretty sure that they could have gotten more for Wiggins, and for some reason they decided not to. It's clear that they are not going to get the best out of this situation, but that doesn't mean that we should just give up on their season. Curry, Hield, Butler, Draymond all together?

I think that is not a bad team at all, I assume that they could make this work one way or another and if Butler doesn't create too much issues in the locker room, then we could assume that they could be very good. Of course that is not going to be easy instantly, we could see that they are actually going to need time to get used to each other, so that they could play better together.

Two alpha with Butler and Draymond? There could be more drama that Draymond and KD, or Draymond and Jordan Poole. This is two personalities that for sure are going to clashed along the way and hopefully the Warriors really knows what they are doing here with that move to get Jimmy Butler.

I heard that they are really desperate and so they offered Wiggs and perhaps you can't blame them as Wiggs is somewhat lost his touch in the rotation and inconsistent in the last three years or so. Let's see, hopefully we are all wrong the Butler might thrived in the Warriors culture.
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February 07, 2025, 05:29:52 AM
Breaking news guys Warriors and Miami is finalizing their deal to trade Butler in exchange for Wiggins,Schroeder,Anderson and protected first round pick.

As per Shams Charania https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1887308975843979528?t=ozLHlF3a4RuyQMRPobXj-A&s=19

Article regarding on this news https://sports.yahoo.com/jimmy-butler-trade-heat-send-disgruntled-star-to-warriors-after-trade-demand-suspensions-011558383.html

Jimmy Butler acting like a bitch would scare me if I were the Warriors. Not sure I would have went forward with a trade to get a problem child. Sports teams in general need to show players that they do not control the league. Basketball is the most DIVA league out there.

Anyways, I hope Butler doesn't turn into an idiot for GS and Steph gets a real teammate that he is in dire need of currently. They need to get their asses in gear and start winning to get out of 10th in the west.

Wiggins is much better than Butler especially on crucial times. They give up even a 1st round pick just acquired Jimmy that is so inconsistent especially on playoffs.

I wonder if he gives a significant difference now on GS while they really need a good center instead of a Forward which Wiggins is already good now. Center is now the most crucial part of GS because they don’t have defense.

I don’t see this line-up getting any ring.

The thing with Wiggins is that he has personal problems that really impede his performance. He had this several bouts of not playing and no other explanation that the Warriors can give except that he is going on some issues on his side.

And when he comes back, it was a total different Wiggins unlike in 2022 wherein he was voted in All Star and had that one nasty dunk against Luka although the referee called in a offensive foul. So the Warriors might be thinking that their time with Wiggins is up and that his game has really decline that they can't no longer tolerate it.
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February 07, 2025, 05:17:22 AM
LeBron is 2 points away from getting 40 tonight against the Warriors as we are down to the wire.

Luka was interviewed tonight and said he expects to make his Debut on Monday at home in Crypto.com Arena against the Utah Jazz. It was being speculated he would debut on Saturday but it looks like that’s not in the cards.

Edit: LeBron got it and became the second player to score 40 over the age of 40 (Michael Jordan).

Watched the match and gramps Lebron is on fire today probably he is eager to hit the milestone for scoring 40 at his current age. Lebron is still a beast when motivated and I feel goosebumps watching his sharp 3.

There’s a lot of commotion happened due to the tension from Draymond Green. I can’t wait to see how chaotic Warriors will become once his butt buddy Butler will already play for GSW.

It’s a one hell of UFC to this team once they have a close match.  haha
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February 07, 2025, 05:03:05 AM
I feel bad for those bad trades and players like Dennis Schroder. Being passed on from here and there is tiring and disappointing. I've read some articles that he's announced his retirement. Is it for real?

He called the trade deadline as modern day slavery.

Well, this might be what he's getting for telling that. He's heading to the Pistons but I can't comprehend if he's retiring or not or those sources tell real thing.

This been reported by Shams Charania

He announce it and I guess he was just frustrated about what happen to his career since in short period of time he was traded to multiple teams.

BREAKING: Detroit Pistons guard Dennis Schröder is reportedly retiring from the NBA after a 12-year career, sources tell ESPN.

But I think there's Schroder didn't make a move yet towards this situation and he just say that word out of frustration but let see what will happen. To bad to see how his career end up like this since maybe if he just signed that $84 million offer by Lakers to him before then maybe he's still a big deal in NBA today.
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February 07, 2025, 05:01:02 AM
Wiggins is much better than Butler especially on crucial times. They give up even a 1st round pick just acquired Jimmy that is so inconsistent especially on playoffs.

I wonder if he gives a significant difference now on GS while they really need a good center instead of a Forward which Wiggins is already good now. Center is now the most crucial part of GS because they don’t have defense.

I don’t see this line-up getting any ring.
This is true, I have no idea why Warriors did something like this. I am pretty sure that they could have gotten more for Wiggins, and for some reason they decided not to. It's clear that they are not going to get the best out of this situation, but that doesn't mean that we should just give up on their season. Curry, Hield, Butler, Draymond all together?

I think that is not a bad team at all, I assume that they could make this work one way or another and if Butler doesn't create too much issues in the locker room, then we could assume that they could be very good. Of course that is not going to be easy instantly, we could see that they are actually going to need time to get used to each other, so that they could play better together.
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February 07, 2025, 03:51:44 AM
I'm not surprised though by the record of Lebron, statistically, I think he will be in every record books with how long he has been in the league. And probably those statistician will have to invent another record just for Lebron here.

I actually feel the opposite... I’m surprised that LeBron is scoring a lot now. 

Early in the season, I noticed he was letting his teammates, especially Davis, do most of the scoring while he focused on facilitating and only stepping in when needed, probably his way of managing his body to avoid injury. 

But lately, it seems like there's more urgency, and he feels the need to carry the team. Another thing I’ve noticed is that he looks more comfortable with his three-point shooting, and he’s been hitting a solid percentage in the past few games.
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