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December 25, 2022, 08:24:08 AM
That will only happen if Westbrook will get traded, they might benefit from the drama of the Chicago Bulls, and maybe Westbrook will be traded for Lavine or DeRozan, who knows, right? Davis, on the other hand, has only one problem, which is his inconsistency to stay healthy which is definitely not his fault, however, the faith of the Lakers every season heavily relied upon him.

It's really hard to trade Westbrook because of how he is currently playing and obviously he is not really effective for his team. If they can only put some effort into decreasing his worth a little, maybe the other teams will gonna gamble to acquire him and will gonna give them a decent offer that is hard to decline. The problem with the Lakers is, they think of Westbrook as an important asset that they can trade for the same price to the other team which really not going to work at all.
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December 25, 2022, 07:30:21 AM
Until there are changes in the Lakers roster, I am not giving them a serious chance of landing the 8th spot, although I am not taking it away the chance to secure a playoff spot thru the play-ins.
That will only happen if Westbrook will get traded, they might benefit from the drama of the Chicago Bulls, and maybe Westbrook will be traded for Lavine or DeRozan, who knows, right? Davis, on the other hand, has only one problem, which is his inconsistency to stay healthy which is definitely not his fault, however, the faith of the Lakers every season heavily relied upon him.

I think anyone of this trade could happen before the deadline in February, if Lakers wanted to get a roster upgrade or a new team mate for Lebron. I know that Westbrook name has been coming out even last season or before the start, but there are no chances from him, or not what the Lakers expect him to be, so they might as well trade him.

For AD, it's the cycle around his body, wear and tear, always injured when they were about to make a run. But the thing is, will the Bulls think he is still worth huge some of money and then them letting either of their stars for AD?
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December 25, 2022, 06:35:26 AM
Until there are changes in the Lakers roster, I am not giving them a serious chance of landing the 8th spot, although I am not taking it away the chance to secure a playoff spot thru the play-ins.
That will only happen if Westbrook will get traded, they might benefit from the drama of the Chicago Bulls, and maybe Westbrook will be traded for Lavine or DeRozan, who knows, right? Davis, on the other hand, has only one problem, which is his inconsistency to stay healthy which is definitely not his fault, however, the faith of the Lakers every season heavily relied upon him.
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December 25, 2022, 06:11:04 AM
Meanwhile, western teams are once again nearing to match the best win-loss record of the east. Generally, the current standings are still close with only 1 to 2 wins and losses that set them apart from the next rank. This might be one of the most competitive regular seasons in the NBA.
Western Conference is in a competitive season right now.
Last time New Orleans Pelicans gained the top spot then there came the Memphis Grizzlies.
Now they are tied with the Denver Nuggets which we didn't expect when Murray and MPJ were still in injury without a timeline about their return.
Phoenix Suns are trying to be on the same spot with Booker on and off and Clippers gaining more wins with Kawhi and PG13 healthy.
West is going to be filled with star-studded teams.
Lakers on the other hand might have a tight spot to squeeze a playoff spot. If ever it happens, it will be a new environment for Lebron.

Yes, the top spot in the western conference has been changed always this season. At the start, it was the Utah Jazz, and then came the Portland Trail Blazers, and so on. Although I am loving this kind of trend since it shows the high level of competition, deep inside I am always rooting for Miami, Utah, and Houston as well. It seems like Jalen Green is having a hard time establishing himself as a leader but at least he is now silent compared to his first year when he constantly tried to trash-talk the first pick.

Until there are changes in the Lakers roster, I am not giving them a serious chance of landing the 8th spot, although I am not taking it away the chance to secure a playoff spot thru the play-ins.

It's really very competitive in both divisions, and obviously in the beginning there could be a lot of lead changes in the top. But later on, maybe near or after the all star break, we will see how the team area going to land and what spot and who will be the leader and win the Western Conference.

As for the Lakers, for me it's going to be a hard fought games for them to even land in the play-in, they are going to be cluster around that 8-12 spot that every game is going to be important. So still a hit or miss for them, even if AD comes back, gonna be hard for the Lakers to meet this season's playoff.
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December 25, 2022, 05:49:37 AM
Meanwhile, western teams are once again nearing to match the best win-loss record of the east. Generally, the current standings are still close with only 1 to 2 wins and losses that set them apart from the next rank. This might be one of the most competitive regular seasons in the NBA.
Western Conference is in a competitive season right now.
Last time New Orleans Pelicans gained the top spot then there came the Memphis Grizzlies.
Now they are tied with the Denver Nuggets which we didn't expect when Murray and MPJ were still in injury without a timeline about their return.
Phoenix Suns are trying to be on the same spot with Booker on and off and Clippers gaining more wins with Kawhi and PG13 healthy.
West is going to be filled with star-studded teams.
Lakers on the other hand might have a tight spot to squeeze a playoff spot. If ever it happens, it will be a new environment for Lebron.

Yes, the top spot in the western conference has been changed always this season. At the start, it was the Utah Jazz, and then came the Portland Trail Blazers, and so on. Although I am loving this kind of trend since it shows the high level of competition, deep inside I am always rooting for Miami, Utah, and Houston as well. It seems like Jalen Green is having a hard time establishing himself as a leader but at least he is now silent compared to his first year when he constantly tried to trash-talk the first pick.

Until there are changes in the Lakers roster, I am not giving them a serious chance of landing the 8th spot, although I am not taking it away the chance to secure a playoff spot thru the play-ins.
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December 25, 2022, 05:36:57 AM
There are 3 teams I follow in the NBA. Boston, Los Angeles Lakers and Golden state. My favorite for the championship this year is the Boston Celtics. My interest in the Los Angeles Lakers is purely because I like LeBron James. In the matches played yesterday, Boston ended the bad situation. Defeated Minnesota at home. The game's top scorer was Jaylen Brown. Los Angeles Lakers lost to Charlotte at home 130-134. LeBron James' 34 points could not prevent the defeat. A championship this year is now a very distant possibility for Los Angeles.

The Celtics and the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship this season. Forget about the Lakers, Lebron is already old and we've see that he cannot carry his team anymore unlike the old days when he was still young, Lakers without Davis is a disaster, that's a real talk.

I don't think he's too old for basketball.
He is only 37 years old and if he takes care of himself, if there is no injury, he can play comfortably until the age of 40-42. He scored 34 points last night, but of course it's not enough on its own. Of course, Anthony Davis should also support it. Basketball is a team game, not tennis after all. Russell Westbrook scored 17 points yesterday, but it wasn't enough.

Of course, he is not old because he can still score over 30 points, like what he is doing during his prime, however, we have to understand that age matters in the game, if you see Lebron now, he is not as aggressive as he was before, he just chooses his move to avoid injury and he is more on a passer now than a scorer. Lebron and Davis's play would complement each other as Lebron could attract the defense so it's easy for Davis to shot the ball when the is open.
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December 25, 2022, 05:32:28 AM
There are 3 teams I follow in the NBA. Boston, Los Angeles Lakers and Golden state. My favorite for the championship this year is the Boston Celtics. My interest in the Los Angeles Lakers is purely because I like LeBron James. In the matches played yesterday, Boston ended the bad situation. Defeated Minnesota at home. The game's top scorer was Jaylen Brown. Los Angeles Lakers lost to Charlotte at home 130-134. LeBron James' 34 points could not prevent the defeat. A championship this year is now a very distant possibility for Los Angeles.

The Celtics and the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship this season. Forget about the Lakers, Lebron is already old and we've see that he cannot carry his team anymore unlike the old days when he was still young, Lakers without Davis is a disaster, that's a real talk.

I don't think he's too old for basketball.
He is only 37 years old and if he takes care of himself, if there is no injury, he can play comfortably until the age of 40-42. He scored 34 points last night, but of course it's not enough on its own. Of course, Anthony Davis should also support it. Basketball is a team game, not tennis after all. Russell Westbrook scored 17 points yesterday, but it wasn't enough.
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December 25, 2022, 05:17:33 AM
There are 3 teams I follow in the NBA. Boston, Los Angeles Lakers and Golden state. My favorite for the championship this year is the Boston Celtics. My interest in the Los Angeles Lakers is purely because I like LeBron James. In the matches played yesterday, Boston ended the bad situation. Defeated Minnesota at home. The game's top scorer was Jaylen Brown. Los Angeles Lakers lost to Charlotte at home 130-134. LeBron James' 34 points could not prevent the defeat. A championship this year is now a very distant possibility for Los Angeles.

The Celtics and the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship this season. Forget about the Lakers, Lebron is already old and we've see that he cannot carry his team anymore unlike the old days when he was still young, Lakers without Davis is a disaster, that's a real talk.
Hey!  Cheesy
Lebron carried the team against the Charlotte Hornets yesterday.
It was all him making good plays or ensuring they could make an offensive attack. It's just that his shoe had given up on him which was supposed to be a sure deuce or a foul if he made it to the rim. He was forced to pass it to Schroder and he did miss the game-winner shot.
It could've ended in overtime where Lebron will surely dominate again.
They actually did great in that game considering how big of an offensive team the Hornets are.
Lakers still have a chance, they are not far away from the 10th seed Timberwolves with 16 wins while they are sitting on 13 wins.
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December 25, 2022, 04:38:15 AM
There are 3 teams I follow in the NBA. Boston, Los Angeles Lakers and Golden state. My favorite for the championship this year is the Boston Celtics. My interest in the Los Angeles Lakers is purely because I like LeBron James. In the matches played yesterday, Boston ended the bad situation. Defeated Minnesota at home. The game's top scorer was Jaylen Brown. Los Angeles Lakers lost to Charlotte at home 130-134. LeBron James' 34 points could not prevent the defeat. A championship this year is now a very distant possibility for Los Angeles.

The Celtics and the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship this season. Forget about the Lakers, Lebron is already old and we've see that he cannot carry his team anymore unlike the old days when he was still young, Lakers without Davis is a disaster, that's a real talk.
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December 25, 2022, 04:29:11 AM
There are 3 teams I follow in the NBA. Boston, Los Angeles Lakers and Golden state. My favorite for the championship this year is the Boston Celtics. My interest in the Los Angeles Lakers is purely because I like LeBron James. In the matches played yesterday, Boston ended the bad situation. Defeated Minnesota at home. The game's top scorer was Jaylen Brown. Los Angeles Lakers lost to Charlotte at home 130-134. LeBron James' 34 points could not prevent the defeat. A championship this year is now a very distant possibility for Los Angeles.
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December 25, 2022, 04:14:46 AM
Regarding Hornets even if they do get Bridges back this year have dug a hole so deep no way they can dig out to get to playoffs but we'll see.

I don't expect either that they will reach the playoffs though, they are not a top team so no expectation at all, what is disappointing is the Lakers have keep losing after a great run, so they aren't consistent without Davis which is a big problem for the team.

Yes and as we have said about the Lakers this season, it's already a dead season for them, very difficult to make the playoff with AD constantly getting injured and then Westbrook coming off the bench and no where the prime Russ where he can average a lot to help and aging Lebron as well.

Lots of good games, like the Knicks vs Sixers, good test for the Knicks against one of the hottest team. And then Boston vs Bucks.

Tomorrow the Lakers will have a tough opponent again, it's the Dallas Mavericks which is a proven playoff team, so I guess we will again see a big win by the home team, and once again the Lakers will struggle to find their offense. The question is, who will stop Luka and Wood, they have good chemistry, Lakers will be having a hard time stopping the offense inside and outside.
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December 25, 2022, 03:59:49 AM
You can't blame the whole Los Angele Lakers for that as the Charlotte Hornets really have a hot shooting on that game. They just established their season-best on that game shooting 55.3% from the field. It's not usual for the Hornets though that's why it's understandable that you put your trust in the Lakers during the live game and decided to place a bet on them.

But seeing the odds on your screenshot, it's a @2.5 Moneyline for the Lakers meaning they are behind during you place your bet.

How many scores are they trying to rally on when you place your bet? Regardless, better luck next time.

Lakers was pretty good despite the odds actually, except third period. They had a chance to go overtime or win the game a couple of times but wrong choices and missed shots made them lose the game. LeBron's shoe was out in last position, that resume the game. If LeBron play like leader again when AD is out, Lakers can get a couple of wins. Thomas Bryant use this opportunity pretty good so far. Even if AD comes back I believe Bryant still have some good amount of playing time.

Lebron is the best scorer for the Lakers in that game. What do you mean by if Lebron plays like a leader they can win that game? That does not make sense as when Lebron came to the Lakers, don't expect him to have that same performance during his prime.

Not all the time the Lakers should rely on him.

Isn't those young cores should do the adjustment instead of relying on the Lakers' fate on a 38-year-old guy?

But let's not just talk about the Lakers here as, in that game, the Hornets really gave their best.
Well, LeBron James is doing his part during the games, but these days he can't carry the team on his back, especially right now, because he will turn 38 years in a few days.
I believe in most games, LJ manages to score 20 points or more, but unfortunately the rest of the Lakers players are not at the same pace and therefore, it could be a problem, there is no point in LJ scoring 30 points in a game and their teammates manage to score even 10 points.

The truth is that, for LeBron James to be that feared and dangerous player like before, he will need a duo, for example in the Cavaliers, where LeBron James made a perfect duo with Kyrie Irving (I would even include Kevin Love, becoming a trio), another relevant time was when LJ was in Miami, LJ + Wade + Bosh was a lethal and very efficient trio.
Already in the Lakers, LJ was making a good duo with AD, but unfortunately Davis is getting injured frequently, and alone, LJ can't carry the team on his back. Another player that could be a fundamental piece and that would certainly improve the Lakers is Westbrook, thus becoming an excellent trio (LJ + AD + Westbrook), but as I said, unfortunately that did not happen.

If AD doesn't manage to recover in time, I speculate that LAL will hardly get a playoff spot, but if they do, they will probably be eliminated quickly.
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December 25, 2022, 03:37:48 AM
Regarding Hornets even if they do get Bridges back this year have dug a hole so deep no way they can dig out to get to playoffs but we'll see.

I don't expect either that they will reach the playoffs though, they are not a top team so no expectation at all, what is disappointing is the Lakers have keep losing after a great run, so they aren't consistent without Davis which is a big problem for the team.

Yes and as we have said about the Lakers this season, it's already a dead season for them, very difficult to make the playoff with AD constantly getting injured and then Westbrook coming off the bench and no where the prime Russ where he can average a lot to help and aging Lebron as well.

Lots of good games, like the Knicks vs Sixers, good test for the Knicks against one of the hottest team. And then Boston vs Bucks.
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December 25, 2022, 03:34:50 AM
That Suns game yesterday was pretty ugly. While it’s no shame to lose to the Grizzlies, this was basically a blowout. Without Booker the Suns aren’t proving to be much of a threat. Ayton isn’t getting enough touches to get more than 20 points and they don’t really have another scorer to fall back on. I’m starting to feel like the Chris Paul experiment in Phoenix is nearing it’s end.

I don't think the Phoenix Suns' loss to the Grizzlies is just because Devin Booker is not playing for the team, but we all know how good the Grizzlies can be but Ja Morant is also not playing his 100% surely the Phoenix Suns should win this game with Deandre Ayton on the team but we all know that there isn't any consistency regarding the games right now because he are not nearing the play-offs yet, for me I will go bet on the easy predicted game, I think there are higher chances with them winning,


What doesn't make sense? People expect LeBron to lead the team, score 30+ and win games when AD was out. Who do you expect to score 30+, Pat Bev? You can't win games constantly if you don't rely on LeBron, Walker and Westbrook. They already have narrow rotation, only seven players get time. That's why Lakers need to do good trades to stay relevant this season.

Hornets played better, Hayward was effective while Oubre wasn't. LaMelo can dictate tempo (usually fast) and direct the team. But their defense is not good, 130 pts showed that. They have good rebounders so they scored from 2nd chances much. Still, they are not more than another lottery team.

Well right now Lebron James is the only one that is scoring with that kind of passion, and no other in the Los Angeles Lakers is doing the same as he is seen in keeping the game pace pretty much close in every game, but for me, they shouldn't rely more on Lebron James and Anthony Davis to get the game output to a win, because I think they would pretty much be needing a team play than one man doing it alone,

Everything you said was right on point about the Lakers.  People have unreal expectations.  You can tell the coach even knows this based on how the rotations go they have to space out who plays and when due to lack of scoring available. Regarding Hornets even if they do get Bridges back this year have dug a hole so deep no way they can dig out to get to playoffs but we'll see.

They surely need to keep the spread to many players and yes a team play is pretty much needed, but I think Lebron James is showing his prime side again, I think he needs to keep on doing it, but at the same time let the other team member to participate and not hogging the points for himself, I think it will come out naturally when he does it, for now, those turnovers is inevitable and it is really common for most teams, and most likely Westbrick is the one that often have taken those turnover mistakes,  I think he needs to lessen that if the Lakers would really want to win,
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December 25, 2022, 03:17:13 AM
Regarding Hornets even if they do get Bridges back this year have dug a hole so deep no way they can dig out to get to playoffs but we'll see.

I don't expect either that they will reach the playoffs though, they are not a top team so no expectation at all, what is disappointing is the Lakers have keep losing after a great run, so they aren't consistent without Davis which is a big problem for the team.
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December 24, 2022, 06:19:07 PM
Lebron is the best scorer for the Lakers in that game. What do you mean by if Lebron plays like a leader they can win that game? That does not make sense as when Lebron came to the Lakers, don't expect him to have that same performance during his prime.

Not all the time the Lakers should rely on him.

Isn't those young cores should do the adjustment instead of relying on the Lakers' fate on a 38-year-old guy?

But let's not just talk about the Lakers here as, in that game, the Hornets really gave their best.

What doesn't make sense? People expect LeBron to lead the team, score 30+ and win games when AD was out. Who do you expect to score 30+, Pat Bev? You can't win games constantly if you don't rely on LeBron, Walker and Westbrook. They already have narrow rotation, only seven players get time. That's why Lakers need to do good trades to stay relevant this season.

Hornets played better, Hayward was effective while Oubre wasn't. LaMelo can dictate tempo (usually fast) and direct the team. But their defense is not good, 130 pts showed that. They have good rebounders so they scored from 2nd chances much. Still, they are not more than another lottery team.
Everything you said was right on point about the Lakers.  People have unreal expectations.  You can tell the coach even knows this based on how the rotations go they have to space out who plays and when due to lack of scoring available. Regarding Hornets even if they do get Bridges back this year have dug a hole so deep no way they can dig out to get to playoffs but we'll see.
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December 24, 2022, 06:06:55 PM
Lebron is the best scorer for the Lakers in that game. What do you mean by if Lebron plays like a leader they can win that game? That does not make sense as when Lebron came to the Lakers, don't expect him to have that same performance during his prime.

Not all the time the Lakers should rely on him.

Isn't those young cores should do the adjustment instead of relying on the Lakers' fate on a 38-year-old guy?

But let's not just talk about the Lakers here as, in that game, the Hornets really gave their best.

What doesn't make sense? People expect LeBron to lead the team, score 30+ and win games when AD was out. Who do you expect to score 30+, Pat Bev? You can't win games constantly if you don't rely on LeBron, Walker and Westbrook. They already have narrow rotation, only seven players get time. That's why Lakers need to do good trades to stay relevant this season.

Hornets played better, Hayward was effective while Oubre wasn't. LaMelo can dictate tempo (usually fast) and direct the team. But their defense is not good, 130 pts showed that. They have good rebounders so they scored from 2nd chances much. Still, they are not more than another lottery team.

I called it a crap expectation then. Expecting an old Lebron to consistently score 30+ PPG because Anthony Davis is out of context.

Believe me, the Lakers without Lebron should handle the Hornets. No need for Lebron to supposedly make a 30+ score.

The Hornets are currently at worst with just a winning percentage of .273. Therefore, it doesn't make sense to point out that if only Lebron played a leader in that game, they should win it as you are saying.

Can you detail completely what you see on that game to the point that you see Lebron didn't act as a leader in that game?

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December 24, 2022, 05:59:19 PM
Lebron is the best scorer for the Lakers in that game. What do you mean by if Lebron plays like a leader they can win that game? That does not make sense as when Lebron came to the Lakers, don't expect him to have that same performance during his prime.

Not all the time the Lakers should rely on him.

Isn't those young cores should do the adjustment instead of relying on the Lakers' fate on a 38-year-old guy?

But let's not just talk about the Lakers here as, in that game, the Hornets really gave their best.

What doesn't make sense? People expect LeBron to lead the team, score 30+ and win games when AD was out. Who do you expect to score 30+, Pat Bev? You can't win games constantly if you don't rely on LeBron, Walker and Westbrook. They already have narrow rotation, only seven players get time. That's why Lakers need to do good trades to stay relevant this season.

Hornets played better, Hayward was effective while Oubre wasn't. LaMelo can dictate tempo (usually fast) and direct the team. But their defense is not good, 130 pts showed that. They have good rebounders so they scored from 2nd chances much. Still, they are not more than another lottery team.
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December 24, 2022, 05:56:14 PM
That Suns game yesterday was pretty ugly. While it’s no shame to lose to the Grizzlies, this was basically a blowout. Without Booker the Suns aren’t proving to be much of a threat. Ayton isn’t getting enough touches to get more than 20 points and they don’t really have another scorer to fall back on. I’m starting to feel like the Chris Paul experiment in Phoenix is nearing it’s end.
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December 24, 2022, 05:28:04 PM
You can't blame the whole Los Angele Lakers for that as the Charlotte Hornets really have a hot shooting on that game. They just established their season-best on that game shooting 55.3% from the field. It's not usual for the Hornets though that's why it's understandable that you put your trust in the Lakers during the live game and decided to place a bet on them.

But seeing the odds on your screenshot, it's a @2.5 Moneyline for the Lakers meaning they are behind during you place your bet.

How many scores are they trying to rally on when you place your bet? Regardless, better luck next time.

Lakers was pretty good despite the odds actually, except third period. They had a chance to go overtime or win the game a couple of times but wrong choices and missed shots made them lose the game. LeBron's shoe was out in last position, that resume the game. If LeBron play like leader again when AD is out, Lakers can get a couple of wins. Thomas Bryant use this opportunity pretty good so far. Even if AD comes back I believe Bryant still have some good amount of playing time.

Lebron is the best scorer for the Lakers in that game. What do you mean by if Lebron plays like a leader they can win that game? That does not make sense as when Lebron came to the Lakers, don't expect him to have that same performance during his prime.

Not all the time the Lakers should rely on him.

Isn't those young cores should do the adjustment instead of relying on the Lakers' fate on a 38-year-old guy?

But let's not just talk about the Lakers here as, in that game, the Hornets really gave their best.
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