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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 31, 2023, 03:00:48 AM

Quote from: harizen on August 30, 2023, 06:41:13 PM

Anyway, we will see Gilas' next action in the upcoming Asian Games next month. After that, the PBA will now commence it's season.

The fight is not over yet; Gilas still has two games left tonight, one against South Sudan and the next game against China. I'm optimistic that they will emerge victorious in these matchups due to their talent and determination to secure wins on their home court. I'm actually quite surprised why the Philippines is labeled as an underdog against South Sudan, especially considering South Sudan's significant loss against Serbia. Perhaps this assessment is influenced by South Sudan's win against China?

Nevertheless, my bet remains on the Philippines.

It's time to gauge whether the Philippines truly possesses the fighting spirit needed to secure victory. With three consecutive losses behind them, I'm confident they've gleaned valuable lessons from those defeats and are poised to perform better tonight.

I appreciate their underdog status; despite that, they have the advantage of playing on their home court with the crowd's strong support. Investing our support in them, regardless of the outcome, doesn't seem like a waste of money. While I initially thought the fun was over, fortunately, two more games remain to be played, and we shouldn't miss the opportunity to witness them.

Good luck guys!

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Quote from: harizen on August 30, 2023, 06:41:13 PM

Anyway, we will see Gilas' next action in the upcoming Asian Games next month. After that, the PBA will now commence it's season.

The fight is not over yet; Gilas still has two games left tonight, one against South Sudan and the next game against China. I'm optimistic that they will emerge victorious in these matchups due to their talent and determination to secure wins on their home court. I'm actually quite surprised why the Philippines is labeled as an underdog against South Sudan, especially considering South Sudan's significant loss against Serbia. Perhaps this assessment is influenced by South Sudan's win against China?

Nevertheless, my bet remains on the Philippines.

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The preparation for this year's FIBA is by far the longest preparation that Gilas goes through. Even the PBA adjusted their schedule just to give way to the long practice of the squad. Unfortunately, the result is a failure. What do you guys think is a problem?

Head Coach - Now again, Coach Chot Reyes is facing criticism for the failure rally of Gilas in the FIBA World Cup. Though others said, it's not with the Coach but PH is just simply lack of talented players, I might partially agree with that. Even Coach Phil Jackson or Coach Steve Kerr will be the head coach of Gilas, with the current lineup, nothing will change the result. However, Coach Chot should have a "delicadeza" to just give up the coaching to the nationals. While talent is important I believe with a much better head coach, there will be an improvement.

Anyway, we will see Gilas' next action in the upcoming Asian Games next month. After that, the PBA will now commence it's season.

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While we are busy with FIBA lately, seems like we are losing one of NorthPort's superstars to Japan B League. Reports have it that Robert Bolick is in Japan right now and a team in Japan, particularly the Fukushima Firebonds are busy entertaining him as they are interested of his services per report of Homer Sayson of Spin.Ph.

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I initially thought he would be traded to SMB (San Miguel Beermen), but it's a wise decision on his part to explore opportunities abroad. Staying in the PBA might not make sense when the salaries are considerably lower compared to the offers in leagues like the B League. This seems to be a growing trend, and it's advantageous for our national team as players tend to develop more when playing overseas. The only challenge might be reestablishing team chemistry when they return to play for the country, but that's something that can be addressed.

This situation isn't favorable for the PBA. While there are still many players available to take the vacant spots, the enthusiasm isn't as high anymore, given that our top players are increasingly leaving the PBA for more promising opportunities. The PBA likely faces limitations in addressing this, as they can't match the contracts being offered by other countries. Perhaps it's a suitable time for them to consider expansion by adding more teams. This change might inject some excitement back into the fan base.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 29, 2023, 07:46:12 AM

While we are busy with FIBA lately, seems like we are losing one of NorthPort's superstars to Japan B League. Reports have it that Robert Bolick is in Japan right now and a team in Japan, particularly the Fukushima Firebonds are busy entertaining him as they are interested of his services per report of Homer Sayson of Spin.Ph.

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COLUMN: Robert Bolick gets royal treatment in Japan B.League

I initially thought he would be traded to SMB (San Miguel Beermen), but it's a wise decision on his part to explore opportunities abroad. Staying in the PBA might not make sense when the salaries are considerably lower compared to the offers in leagues like the B League. This seems to be a growing trend, and it's advantageous for our national team as players tend to develop more when playing overseas. The only challenge might be reestablishing team chemistry when they return to play for the country, but that's something that can be addressed.

Shifting topics, there's also been talk about Coach Chot's outfit being expensive.

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/sports/2023/8/29/Chot-Reyes-Thom-Browne-Gilas-FIBA-World-Cup.html

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His top is a four-bar suit jacket priced at $2,309 (around ₱129,000), his four-bar trouser costs $1,130 (around ₱63,000), and his cotton placket shirt is worth $435 (around ₱24,000). This is according to the official Thom Browne website.

It seems like everyone has an opinion about him, and they're quick to express their thoughts.

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While we are busy with FIBA lately, seems like we are losing one of NorthPort's superstars to Japan B League. Reports have it that Robert Bolick is in Japan right now and a team in Japan, particularly the Fukushima Firebonds are busy entertaining him as they are interested of his services per report of Homer Sayson of Spin.Ph.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 27, 2023, 09:09:46 AM

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Angola vs. Philippines tonight, everyone! What are your thoughts on this game?

The Philippines are favored by -7.5 points. Do you think this is a good bet, or could it be a trap? I observed how Angola played against Italy; they competed well until the 4th quarter when they eventually broke down. Considering this, can the Philippines realistically cover the spread if they win, or do you think they will win at all?

I'd like to know your opinions before placing my bet.

I hope you weren't able to place a bet, as the Philippines lost again. Angola won by 10 points, and it looks like they are the favorites who covered the spread. Gilas has no match, as they are not playing on the same page, while Angola was able to make the right plays that made them unpredictable, attacking both inside and outside. They performed well against Clarkson, making him a passer. The next game will be against Italy. I think we will have a perfect "0" here despite being the host country in this bracket.

I did not watch the game but seeing the final score makes me think that Angola manage to scout our national squad, they manage to make a good stop with JC and seems that they are really good in taking advantage of speed in attacking the basket, for sure we will hear again that learning process as super coach Chot always highlight that, I will look forward if what he's take from this lost and how Gilas will prepared for the last upcoming game against Italy.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 27, 2023, 01:05:22 AM

Angola vs. Philippines tonight, everyone! What are your thoughts on this game?

The Philippines are favored by -7.5 points. Do you think this is a good bet, or could it be a trap? I observed how Angola played against Italy; they competed well until the 4th quarter when they eventually broke down. Considering this, can the Philippines realistically cover the spread if they win, or do you think they will win at all?

I'd like to know your opinions before placing my bet.

I hope you weren't able to place a bet, as the Philippines lost again. Angola won by 10 points, and it looks like they are the favorites who covered the spread. Gilas has no match, as they are not playing on the same page, while Angola was able to make the right plays that made them unpredictable, attacking both inside and outside. They performed well against Clarkson, making him a passer. The next game will be against Italy. I think we will have a perfect "0" here despite being the host country in this bracket.

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Angola vs. Philippines tonight, everyone! What are your thoughts on this game?

The Philippines are favored by -7.5 points. Do you think this is a good bet, or could it be a trap? I observed how Angola played against Italy; they competed well until the 4th quarter when they eventually broke down. Considering this, can the Philippines realistically cover the spread if they win, or do you think they will win at all?

I'd like to know your opinions before placing my bet.

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Quote from: harizen on August 25, 2023, 07:41:06 PM

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It's now time for Kai to silence his critics, as he finds himself on a grand stage where everyone is watching. This presents his chance to demonstrate to the world that he deserves a spot in the NBA. Kai Sotto hasn't performed well in the last three tune-up games. If he manages to score at least 20 points here, I believe that would be a significant accomplishment for him. Particularly noteworthy would be if he plays an effective role in limiting KAT.

Unfortunately, when Kai is on the defensive end, Karl Anthony Towns is taking that advantage to eat the young guy alive on the paint. In the end, Coach Chot decided to sit him almost the entire game, unlike in those previous tune-up games where Kai was getting more minutes and that was a good decision for me. Having JuneMar Fajardo and AJ Edu as the center brings more effectiveness to both Gilas' offense and defense.

Looking at how the Gilas performed on that night, it wasn't bad overall, especially against the ranked 23rd Dominican Republic. We are not even down as much as over 10 to 20 points contrary to what the majority is expecting knowing Towns is really a big factor. He's even gone berserk in the second half attacking the paint mostly on his plays but still, Gilas is able to keep it up with the scoreboard.

Take note that, Jordan Clarkson even fouled out only at the 3rd but still, the locals were able to play close with the Dominicans.

Not sure if you watch the game Clarkson was fouled out in the last 4minutes or something of the game and not in the 3rd, but I like your comment about keeping the gap close by using both Edu and JFM but giving the kid less than 2 minutes? Not sure if that's the right calculation to complete the assessment if the player is fit to his position.

It's done and we don't have anything to bring it back. Hopefully, the coaching staff will find the best way to win on their next game,
almost but Dominican Republic survived.

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Quote from: harizen on August 25, 2023, 07:41:06 PM

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It's now time for Kai to silence his critics, as he finds himself on a grand stage where everyone is watching. This presents his chance to demonstrate to the world that he deserves a spot in the NBA. Kai Sotto hasn't performed well in the last three tune-up games. If he manages to score at least 20 points here, I believe that would be a significant accomplishment for him. Particularly noteworthy would be if he plays an effective role in limiting KAT.

Unfortunately, when Kai is on the defensive end, Karl Anthony Towns is taking that advantage to eat the young guy alive on the paint. In the end, Coach Chot decided to sit him almost the entire game, unlike in those previous tune-up games where Kai was getting more minutes and that was a good decision for me. Having JuneMar Fajardo and AJ Edu as the center brings more effectiveness to both Gilas' offense and defense.

Looking at how the Gilas performed on that night, it wasn't bad overall, especially against the ranked 23rd Dominican Republic. We are not even down as much as over 10 to 20 points contrary to what the majority is expecting knowing Towns is really a big factor. He's even gone berserk in the second half attacking the paint mostly on his plays but still, Gilas is able to keep it up with the scoreboard.

Take note that, Jordan Clarkson even fouled out only at the 3rd but still, the locals were able to play close with the Dominicans.

My expectations were mistaken; naturally, he couldn't shine due to his limited minutes. Nevertheless, I comprehend why he was benched after being given some playing time – he didn't quite perform well enough, and he struggled to defend against KAT. Only JMF seemed to have some success in limiting KAT's performance, and Edu's assistance made things challenging for him. Different games might require distinct strategies, and if there isn't a dominant big man like KAT, Kai Sotto could potentially prove valuable.

I'm not familiar with Angola's lineup, but perhaps Kai would be better suited for the upcoming game.

What are your thoughts?

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 25, 2023, 08:40:59 AM

Doubt Kai will step up there are so many opportunity for him to do that but no result shown. Right now he's since on the bench and it seems he will not go back to the game. I doubt Kai can achieve his NBA dream since he can't dominate everywhere he plays and he's performance is really bad. He need to gain muscle since at his position he's so easily swipe out by more bigger center. Also it seems Kai's NBA's dream is over since he didn't play well on FIBA.

I've just watched a video on a sports blogger on Youtube that the Orlando Magic coach is watching closely Kai Sotto's performance in their first game in the FIBA World Cup. Obviously, that will be their key factor if they allow Kai to be signed for the team. Miami Heat Coach Eric Spoelstra too watch that game live to watch specifically how Kai will do and quoting he might give some push for his NBA dream if he will do some surprise.

But it doesn't go well as he's really nothing compared to the Dominican Republic's big man. How come against the big on the NBA?

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Also it seems Kai's NBA's dream is over since he didn't play well on FIBA.

There are still 3 games to be played on our bracket. Kai should used those games to cover what he's lacking in their first game. That's the only chance and opportunity to show his skills and not on tune-up games. If he will be the same Kai Sotto against the Dominican Republic on their next game, I would say his NBA dream will be idle again for some years to come and it might not happened now.

Feel bad for Kai as he's getting pressured at a young age but his big dream requires big work in the first place so no reason to give up.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 25, 2023, 06:32:43 AM

It's now time for Kai to silence his critics, as he finds himself on a grand stage where everyone is watching. This presents his chance to demonstrate to the world that he deserves a spot in the NBA. Kai Sotto hasn't performed well in the last three tune-up games. If he manages to score at least 20 points here, I believe that would be a significant accomplishment for him. Particularly noteworthy would be if he plays an effective role in limiting KAT.

Unfortunately, when Kai is on the defensive end, Karl Anthony Towns is taking that advantage to eat the young guy alive on the paint. In the end, Coach Chot decided to sit him almost the entire game, unlike in those previous tune-up games where Kai was getting more minutes and that was a good decision for me. Having JuneMar Fajardo and AJ Edu as the center brings more effectiveness to both Gilas' offense and defense.

Looking at how the Gilas performed on that night, it wasn't bad overall, especially against the ranked 23rd Dominican Republic. We are not even down as much as over 10 to 20 points contrary to what the majority is expecting knowing Towns is really a big factor. He's even gone berserk in the second half attacking the paint mostly on his plays but still, Gilas is able to keep it up with the scoreboard.

Take note that, Jordan Clarkson even fouled out only at the 3rd but still, the locals were able to play close with the Dominicans.

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To be safe, betting on the handicap might be the right choice here. +10.5 seems reasonable, considering it's their first game and they have the energy and the crowd's support. The opponents are quite strong, so maybe we can compensate with our 3-point shooting, as it's difficult to penetrate the interior, especially with Town there. I guess no big man has a favorable matchup against Town; he's capable of dominating everyone.

It's +12.5 @1.78 for me and like you have said, the crowd would be a factor in this game. For me, we have a big chance of winning if Towns gives up the ball to his teammates and let them shoot in the corner as that would be the spot where his teammates are going to be open and hope our guards will be quick enough to recover to bother the shot, easily said than done but hope they can execute.

I think Kai could somehow bother Towns though not all the time but life in the middle would not be so easy for him if Kai and Edu were there defending him.

It's now time for Kai to silence his critics, as he finds himself on a grand stage where everyone is watching. This presents his chance to demonstrate to the world that he deserves a spot in the NBA. Kai Sotto hasn't performed well in the last three tune-up games. If he manages to score at least 20 points here, I believe that would be a significant accomplishment for him. Particularly noteworthy would be if he plays an effective role in limiting KAT.

Well, Kai needs to step up his game and give it his all, as his success in this context could significantly contribute to his pursuit of an NBA career.

Doubt Kai will step up there are so many opportunity for him to do that but no result shown. Right now he's since on the bench and it seems he will not go back to the game. I doubt Kai can achieve his NBA dream since he can't dominate everywhere he plays and he's performance is really bad. He need to gain muscle since at his position he's so easily swipe out by more bigger center. Also it seems Kai's NBA's dream is over since he didn't play well on FIBA.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 25, 2023, 06:32:43 AM

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Quote from: Questat on August 24, 2023, 09:40:02 PM

To be safe, betting on the handicap might be the right choice here. +10.5 seems reasonable, considering it's their first game and they have the energy and the crowd's support. The opponents are quite strong, so maybe we can compensate with our 3-point shooting, as it's difficult to penetrate the interior, especially with Town there. I guess no big man has a favorable matchup against Town; he's capable of dominating everyone.

It's +12.5 @1.78 for me and like you have said, the crowd would be a factor in this game. For me, we have a big chance of winning if Towns gives up the ball to his teammates and let them shoot in the corner as that would be the spot where his teammates are going to be open and hope our guards will be quick enough to recover to bother the shot, easily said than done but hope they can execute.

I think Kai could somehow bother Towns though not all the time but life in the middle would not be so easy for him if Kai and Edu were there defending him.

It's now time for Kai to silence his critics, as he finds himself on a grand stage where everyone is watching. This presents his chance to demonstrate to the world that he deserves a spot in the NBA. Kai Sotto hasn't performed well in the last three tune-up games. If he manages to score at least 20 points here, I believe that would be a significant accomplishment for him. Particularly noteworthy would be if he plays an effective role in limiting KAT.

Well, Kai needs to step up his game and give it his all, as his success in this context could significantly contribute to his pursuit of an NBA career.

On another note, I came across an update about this game on Facebook. Speaking of the crowd and fans, it has been reported that 43,000 tickets have already been sold out. Imagine the enormity of the crowd at that game. The Dominican Republic is essentially playing against a home team, and although they might be the stronger team, the continuous support from the home crowd could potentially alter the dynamics of the game.

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Quote from: Questat on August 24, 2023, 09:40:02 PM

To be safe, betting on the handicap might be the right choice here. +10.5 seems reasonable, considering it's their first game and they have the energy and the crowd's support. The opponents are quite strong, so maybe we can compensate with our 3-point shooting, as it's difficult to penetrate the interior, especially with Town there. I guess no big man has a favorable matchup against Town; he's capable of dominating everyone.

It's +12.5 @1.78 for me and like you have said, the crowd would be a factor in this game. For me, we have a big chance of winning if Towns gives up the ball to his teammates and let them shoot in the corner as that would be the spot where his teammates are going to be open and hope our guards will be quick enough to recover to bother the shot, easily said than done but hope they can execute.

I think Kai could somehow bother Towns though not all the time but life in the middle would not be so easy for him if Kai and Edu were there defending him.

It's now time for Kai to silence his critics, as he finds himself on a grand stage where everyone is watching. This presents his chance to demonstrate to the world that he deserves a spot in the NBA. Kai Sotto hasn't performed well in the last three tune-up games. If he manages to score at least 20 points here, I believe that would be a significant accomplishment for him. Particularly noteworthy would be if he plays an effective role in limiting KAT.

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Quote from: Questat on August 24, 2023, 09:40:02 PM

To be safe, betting on the handicap might be the right choice here. +10.5 seems reasonable, considering it's their first game and they have the energy and the crowd's support. The opponents are quite strong, so maybe we can compensate with our 3-point shooting, as it's difficult to penetrate the interior, especially with Town there. I guess no big man has a favorable matchup against Town; he's capable of dominating everyone.

It's +12.5 @1.78 for me and like you have said, the crowd would be a factor in this game. For me, we have a big chance of winning if Towns gives up the ball to his teammates and let them shoot in the corner as that would be the spot where his teammates are going to be open and hope our guards will be quick enough to recover to bother the shot, easily said than done but hope they can execute.

I think Kai could somehow bother Towns though not all the time but life in the middle would not be so easy for him if Kai and Edu were there defending him.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 24, 2023, 06:24:51 AM

Here are the current odds for that particular game:

Moneyline:
Pilipinas 5.50
Dominican Republic 1.15
Spread: +10.5

Are you gonna take the moneyline or the spread?

Understandable though to see such a huge gap in the odds provided the Dominican Republic is a powerhouse team regardless if Karl Anthony Towns is there or not.
Aside from that, rankings play a big factor in odds distribution regardless if it's a host country or not. If someone will have to bet on our Gilas, it's not about the hue gap but rather to show support from the country.

I myself, understand the distance between Gilas and the Dominicans but no way I will support the latter for an obvious reason.

Though technically, performance is the key, I hope the expected big boost from the crowd will fuel the Gilas to play at their top level.

To be safe, betting on the handicap might be the right choice here. +10.5 seems reasonable, considering it's their first game and they have the energy and the crowd's support. The opponents are quite strong, so maybe we can compensate with our 3-point shooting, as it's difficult to penetrate the interior, especially with Town there. I guess no big man has a favorable matchup against Town; he's capable of dominating everyone.

Here's the roster for Dominican Republic. https://basketnews.com/news-193501-karl-anthony-towns-headlines-final-12-man-dominican-republic-roster.html

I think the size average isn't that much compared to the Philippines.

I have taken the +10 in this game. Watching this match is going to be enjoyable since it's our own team playing on their home court; thus, we need to support them. I haven't witnessed an upset yet; I thought Angola would be able to give Italy a competitive game, but they faltered in the 4th quarter, resulting in a loss by double digits. In this game, every quarter is crucial; if Gilas gets off to a good start, they also need to finish strong.

GOOD LUCK, GILAS PILIPINAS!

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Quote from: harizen on August 24, 2023, 06:58:05 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 24, 2023, 06:24:51 AM

Here are the current odds for that particular game:

Moneyline:
Pilipinas 5.50
Dominican Republic 1.15
Spread: +10.5

Are you gonna take the moneyline or the spread?

Understandable though to see such a huge gap in the odds provided the Dominican Republic is a powerhouse team regardless if Karl Anthony Towns is there or not.
Aside from that, rankings play a big factor in odds distribution regardless if it's a host country or not. If someone will have to bet on our Gilas, it's not about the hue gap but rather to show support from the country.

I myself, understand the distance between Gilas and the Dominicans but no way I will support the latter for an obvious reason.

Though technically, performance is the key, I hope the expected big boost from the crowd will fuel the Gilas to play at their top level.

To be safe, betting on the handicap might be the right choice here. +10.5 seems reasonable, considering it's their first game and they have the energy and the crowd's support. The opponents are quite strong, so maybe we can compensate with our 3-point shooting, as it's difficult to penetrate the interior, especially with Town there. I guess no big man has a favorable matchup against Town; he's capable of dominating everyone.

Here's the roster for Dominican Republic. https://basketnews.com/news-193501-karl-anthony-towns-headlines-final-12-man-dominican-republic-roster.html

I think the size average isn't that much compared to the Philippines.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 24, 2023, 06:24:51 AM

Here are the current odds for that particular game:

Moneyline:
Pilipinas 5.50
Dominican Republic 1.15
Spread: +10.5

Are you gonna take the moneyline or the spread?

Understandable though to see such a huge gap in the odds provided the Dominican Republic is a powerhouse team regardless if Karl Anthony Towns is there or not.
Aside from that, rankings play a big factor in odds distribution regardless if it's a host country or not. If someone will have to bet on our Gilas, it's not about the hue gap but rather to show support from the country.

I myself, understand the distance between Gilas and the Dominicans but no way I will support the latter for an obvious reason.

Though technically, performance is the key, I hope the expected big boost from the crowd will fuel the Gilas to play at their top level.

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