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Quote from: Natalim on September 22, 2023, 06:24:05 AM

Nice start for Tim Cone as the coach of Gilas.

We have a win tonight.

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Gilas ramps up its Asian Games prep with an 86-81 win over the KBL’s LG Sakers in an exhibition at PhilSports Arena.

From one sports. https://www.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL

Just check out the YouTube highlights of this game. I'm sure many Filipino vloggers will be posting videos with their commentaries regarding the win. I hope this trend continues, even though it's just a tune-up game; it's still very important to us.

No more bashing; it's good for our Gilas Pilipinas. It seems like the coaching style of Tim Cone is very effective, especially with Brownlee, their best player, working with the Ginebra Gin Kings. A tune-up game against a good team is already a success. I believe they are already prepared for the Asian Games.

Are there any other tune-up games scheduled before their first game in the Asian Games?

Tim cone is the best best coach as we all know how smart he is and wat we saw earlier that they will win against strong team even though that is tune up game then still salute for our players who gave their very best to win that game. And also their lineup is good and the chemistry between the coach and the players has already built. And also our new local player which brownlee he contributed very well and it's. successful.

I think we can consider him our naturalized player. Well, he is so Pinoy that we can almost consider him a local player, although on paper he is not. The lineup is really good, the defense was strong, and we have a good big man who can compete with the bigs from other countries. In my opinion, Fajardo wasn't that impressive in past international games, but with his contributions during the FIBA World Cup, I think the real Kraken has awakened, and he will be even more dangerous in the upcoming Asian Games.

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Quote from: harizen on September 23, 2023, 06:57:58 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 23, 2023, 10:48:30 AM

Yes, in terms of leadership Brownlee is reliable and with experienced on how coach Tim work with his players I believe that it won't be hard for him to decide in taking over when the team needed him the most, plus the players who's playing around him is not new most of them already have that chance to play alongside with him.

Honestly, that was the key reason why before, Justin Brownlee was even pushed up by some fans to play in the FIBA World Cup instead of Jordan Clarkson, even though the latter is playing at an NBA-caliber level. There's a clear ball rotation if Brownlee is on the floor, unlike Clarkson who mostly, plays in isolation and and designed for him.

Coach Tim also knows how to utilize each player on the current roster since it's not new to him handling these guys, especially his Ginebra players.

Excited to see their match against Jordan a week from now, the toughest team in their bracket.

Maybe they will try again next time with Brownlee if he can still play, or perhaps the outcome of this tournament will be the deciding factor in choosing between the two. If Gilas wins the gold, I think they will stick with Brownlee, as that way they will be able to save some money compared to Clarkson, whom they reportedly paid $1 million.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 23, 2023, 06:41:03 AM

Let’s also congratulate our younger Gilas for qualifying for the World Cup U17 next year, we have a better future if we continue the system that we have on our younger teams. I hope our national commission will address this concern and follow the strategy of other countries on molding younger players for their future representative, I think its about time now to have our own solid Gilas team with a solid system.

You mean the U16 Gilas team that got to the semis mate? Yeah, congratulations to them because beating Japan in the quarterfinals was not an easy task but they did it with all their heart and advanced to the semis against Australia but unfortunately, the latter was just too strong in this category that the blew away our young Gilas 92-36 but nevertheless it was a valiant effort and if continued, those efforts would go far if not mix with basketball politics.

I didn't expect them to lose by such a huge margin. I thought they'd be more competitive, but as we can see, there's a huge difference in basketball development between Asia and Europe or the US. The competition in these two regions is much closer, but we are lagging far behind.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 23, 2023, 06:41:03 AM

Let’s also congratulate our younger Gilas for qualifying for the World Cup U17 next year, we have a better future if we continue the system that we have on our younger teams. I hope our national commission will address this concern and follow the strategy of other countries on molding younger players for their future representative, I think its about time now to have our own solid Gilas team with a solid system.

You mean the U16 Gilas team that got to the semis mate? Yeah, congratulations to them because beating Japan in the quarterfinals was not an easy task but they did it with all their heart and advanced to the semis against Australia but unfortunately, the latter was just too strong in this category that the blew away our young Gilas 92-36 but nevertheless it was a valiant effort and if continued, those efforts would go far if not mix with basketball politics.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 23, 2023, 10:48:30 AM

Yes, in terms of leadership Brownlee is reliable and with experienced on how coach Tim work with his players I believe that it won't be hard for him to decide in taking over when the team needed him the most, plus the players who's playing around him is not new most of them already have that chance to play alongside with him.

Honestly, that was the key reason why before, Justin Brownlee was even pushed up by some fans to play in the FIBA World Cup instead of Jordan Clarkson, even though the latter is playing at an NBA-caliber level. There's a clear ball rotation if Brownlee is on the floor, unlike Clarkson who mostly, plays in isolation and and designed for him.

Coach Tim also knows how to utilize each player on the current roster since it's not new to him handling these guys, especially his Ginebra players.

Excited to see their match against Jordan a week from now, the toughest team in their bracket.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2023, 12:47:02 PM

No more dribble and drive, but more on moving around even without the ball in hand. Hopefully, what we witness today will always be the same good ball movement and good sets of players inside.

That's what I noticed too, Coach Tim is really different from Coach Chot, and I think his system will be effective for Gilas Pilipinas as it will improve the defense. One significant difference as well is that Brownlee isn't like Clarkson, who is too confident to shoot; Brownlee doesn't hog the ball. He's already accustomed to playing with his teammates due to his experience in the PBA.

Big factor since the focus of the defense coming from the opponents is not just for some key players, with coach Tim all are threats since the ball is moving and each individuals inside the court are all capable in taking the shots, with confidence that they are playing together both defense and offense is really nice to watch with coach Tims' mentoring the Nationals.

Let see if they will continue to play like this and able to upgrade more in terms of rotations and good blending of players
inside the court, and if replacement is needed, the player who will be playing will be aware of his role and will play that
same setup, so there's no problem in terms of executing the plays.

Also, it will help Brownlee conserve his energy going into the 4th quarter because he won't be carrying the team, but he should be the one to take over in the 4th quarter, especially if the team is behind or the game is close. I trust Brownlee, though; he could be a significant factor in delivering success. We haven't won gold for a while, but maybe this is our best chance.

If they will continue what they are doing then there's a big chances that our national team will get the gold medal as we can see their dedication and their hard work. Also the coaching staff they already build their chemistry which is the very important thing in a team and also they have the unity and more players have thier time to prove their welt . So for me there a big chance to claim the gold.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 23, 2023, 06:38:05 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 23, 2023, 06:32:41 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on September 23, 2023, 04:17:43 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2023, 12:47:02 PM

No more dribble and drive, but more on moving around even without the ball in hand. Hopefully, what we witness today will always be the same good ball movement and good sets of players inside.

That's what I noticed too, Coach Tim is really different from Coach Chot, and I think his system will be effective for Gilas Pilipinas as it will improve the defense. One significant difference as well is that Brownlee isn't like Clarkson, who is too confident to shoot; Brownlee doesn't hog the ball. He's already accustomed to playing with his teammates due to his experience in the PBA.

Big factor since the focus of the defense coming from the opponents is not just for some key players, with coach Tim all are threats since the ball is moving and each individuals inside the court are all capable in taking the shots, with confidence that they are playing together both defense and offense is really nice to watch with coach Tims' mentoring the Nationals.

Let see if they will continue to play like this and able to upgrade more in terms of rotations and good blending of players
inside the court, and if replacement is needed, the player who will be playing will be aware of his role and will play that
same setup, so there's no problem in terms of executing the plays.

Also, it will help Brownlee conserve his energy going into the 4th quarter because he won't be carrying the team, but he should be the one to take over in the 4th quarter, especially if the team is behind or the game is close. I trust Brownlee, though; he could be a significant factor in delivering success. We haven't won gold for a while, but maybe this is our best chance.

Yes, in terms of leadership Brownlee is reliable and with experienced on how coach Tim work with his players I believe that it won't be hard for him to decide in taking over when the team needed him the most, plus the players who's playing around him is not new most of them already have that chance to play alongside with him.

And with how coach Tim rotating his players, we really see that they are good at executing the same patterns seems even it's a short period for practice. They still understand each role and how they will bring the play in converting both defense and offense.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 23, 2023, 09:35:53 AM

By the way, we can see the full schedules here ;https://sports.inquirer.net/530206/schedule-gilas-pilipinas-at-hangzhou-asian-games-basketball

Looks like everyday Gilas will have a game, hopefully fatigue factor will not play a big role.

It's not every day; you might overlook the schedule that you shared. The other schedules are for Gilas Pilipinas Women's; they are up against Kazakhstan, Hong Kong, and Japan, while the Men are going to play Bahrain, Thailand, and Jordan.

You can also check the stats here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_Asian_Games... China has been dominating, as in the last 10 Asian Games, they have won 8 Golds.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 23, 2023, 08:04:48 AM

When Gilas loses, there will be a lot of negative comments, but if they win, you'll see the words 'proud Pinoy.' That's the kind of mentality, though.

That's definitely normal, and I'm pretty sure Coach Tim Cone is ready for that. But anyway, he does not speak Tagalog, I believe, so those bad comments in Tagalog might not hurt him, unlike Coach Chot, who is a pure Filipino. The way I see it, it seems like we hate our own but love and respect foreigners. We tend to believe that they are better than our Filipino coaches. Well, maybe it cannot be denied, though, as Tim Cone is currently the best coach in the PBA, so he deserves to coach our national team.

By the way, we can see the full schedules here ;https://sports.inquirer.net/530206/schedule-gilas-pilipinas-at-hangzhou-asian-games-basketball

Looks like everyday Gilas will have a game, hopefully fatigue factor will not play a big role.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 23, 2023, 06:41:03 AM

Let’s also congratulate our younger Gilas for qualifying for the World Cup U17 next year, we have a better future if we continue the system that we have on our younger teams. I hope our national commission will address this concern and follow the strategy of other countries on molding younger players for their future representative, I think its about time now to have our own solid Gilas team with a solid system.

I read the news, but I wasn't very interested. I'm more focused on the development of our pros who represent Gilas Pilipinas. We had a good tune-up win, and now we're waiting for the result of the first game. Hopefully, it won't disappoint us because we already know how the fans will react.

When Gilas loses, there will be a lot of negative comments, but if they win, you'll see the words 'proud Pinoy.' That's the kind of mentality, though.

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Let’s also congratulate our younger Gilas for qualifying for the World Cup U17 next year, we have a better future if we continue the system that we have on our younger teams. I hope our national commission will address this concern and follow the strategy of other countries on molding younger players for their future representative, I think its about time now to have our own solid Gilas team with a solid system.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 23, 2023, 06:32:41 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on September 23, 2023, 04:17:43 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2023, 12:47:02 PM

No more dribble and drive, but more on moving around even without the ball in hand. Hopefully, what we witness today will always be the same good ball movement and good sets of players inside.

That's what I noticed too, Coach Tim is really different from Coach Chot, and I think his system will be effective for Gilas Pilipinas as it will improve the defense. One significant difference as well is that Brownlee isn't like Clarkson, who is too confident to shoot; Brownlee doesn't hog the ball. He's already accustomed to playing with his teammates due to his experience in the PBA.

Big factor since the focus of the defense coming from the opponents is not just for some key players, with coach Tim all are threats since the ball is moving and each individuals inside the court are all capable in taking the shots, with confidence that they are playing together both defense and offense is really nice to watch with coach Tims' mentoring the Nationals.

Let see if they will continue to play like this and able to upgrade more in terms of rotations and good blending of players
inside the court, and if replacement is needed, the player who will be playing will be aware of his role and will play that
same setup, so there's no problem in terms of executing the plays.

Also, it will help Brownlee conserve his energy going into the 4th quarter because he won't be carrying the team, but he should be the one to take over in the 4th quarter, especially if the team is behind or the game is close. I trust Brownlee, though; he could be a significant factor in delivering success. We haven't won gold for a while, but maybe this is our best chance.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 23, 2023, 04:17:43 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2023, 12:47:02 PM

No more dribble and drive, but more on moving around even without the ball in hand. Hopefully, what we witness today will always be the same good ball movement and good sets of players inside.

That's what I noticed too, Coach Tim is really different from Coach Chot, and I think his system will be effective for Gilas Pilipinas as it will improve the defense. One significant difference as well is that Brownlee isn't like Clarkson, who is too confident to shoot; Brownlee doesn't hog the ball. He's already accustomed to playing with his teammates due to his experience in the PBA.

Big factor since the focus of the defense coming from the opponents is not just for some key players, with coach Tim all are threats since the ball is moving and each individuals inside the court are all capable in taking the shots, with confidence that they are playing together both defense and offense is really nice to watch with coach Tims' mentoring the Nationals.

Let see if they will continue to play like this and able to upgrade more in terms of rotations and good blending of players
inside the court, and if replacement is needed, the player who will be playing will be aware of his role and will play that
same setup, so there's no problem in terms of executing the plays.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2023, 12:47:02 PM

No more dribble and drive, but more on moving around even without the ball in hand. Hopefully, what we witness today will always be the same good ball movement and good sets of players inside.

That's what I noticed too, Coach Tim is really different from Coach Chot, and I think his system will be effective for Gilas Pilipinas as it will improve the defense. One significant difference as well is that Brownlee isn't like Clarkson, who is too confident to shoot; Brownlee doesn't hog the ball. He's already accustomed to playing with his teammates due to his experience in the PBA.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 22, 2023, 06:24:05 AM

Nice start for Tim Cone as the coach of Gilas.

We have a win tonight.

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Gilas ramps up its Asian Games prep with an 86-81 win over the KBL’s LG Sakers in an exhibition at PhilSports Arena.

From one sports. https://www.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL

Just check out the YouTube highlights of this game. I'm sure many Filipino vloggers will be posting videos with their commentaries regarding the win. I hope this trend continues, even though it's just a tune-up game; it's still very important to us.

I like the way he blended the players no offense, but it's very different from how we appreciate the game even it's just a tune up game but we see how aggressive the players are and how they really move the ball and execute good plays after calling it, with JBL and JMF the offense is really allowing them to make a good transitions.

No more dribble and drive, but more on moving around even without the ball in hand. Hopefully, what we witness today will always be the same good ball movement and good sets of players inside.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 22, 2023, 07:57:45 AM

Quote from: Natalim on September 22, 2023, 06:24:05 AM

Nice start for Tim Cone as the coach of Gilas.

We have a win tonight.

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Gilas ramps up its Asian Games prep with an 86-81 win over the KBL’s LG Sakers in an exhibition at PhilSports Arena.

From one sports. https://www.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL

Just check out the YouTube highlights of this game. I'm sure many Filipino vloggers will be posting videos with their commentaries regarding the win. I hope this trend continues, even though it's just a tune-up game; it's still very important to us.

No more bashing; it's good for our Gilas Pilipinas. It seems like the coaching style of Tim Cone is very effective, especially with Brownlee, their best player, working with the Ginebra Gin Kings. A tune-up game against a good team is already a success. I believe they are already prepared for the Asian Games.

Are there any other tune-up games scheduled before their first game in the Asian Games?

Tim cone is the best best coach as we all know how smart he is and wat we saw earlier that they will win against strong team even though that is tune up game then still salute for our players who gave their very best to win that game. And also their lineup is good and the chemistry between the coach and the players has already built. And also our new local player which brownlee he contributed very well and it's. successful.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 22, 2023, 07:57:45 AM

Quote from: Natalim on September 22, 2023, 06:24:05 AM

Nice start for Tim Cone as the coach of Gilas.

We have a win tonight.

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Gilas ramps up its Asian Games prep with an 86-81 win over the KBL’s LG Sakers in an exhibition at PhilSports Arena.

From one sports. https://www.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL

Just check out the YouTube highlights of this game. I'm sure many Filipino vloggers will be posting videos with their commentaries regarding the win. I hope this trend continues, even though it's just a tune-up game; it's still very important to us.

No more bashing; it's good for our Gilas Pilipinas. It seems like the coaching style of Tim Cone is very effective, especially with Brownlee, their best player, working with the Ginebra Gin Kings. A tune-up game against a good team is already a success. I believe they are already prepared for the Asian Games.

Are there any other tune-up games scheduled before their first game in the Asian Games?

Asian Games will kick off tomorrow so I think there will be no more exhibition games for the Gilas Pilipinas.

We can see the schedules of their games at https://www.rappler.com/sports/gilas-pilipinas/game-schedule-philippine-team-men-women-3x3-asian-games-2023/

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Men’s 5-on-5 basketball
1:30 pm, September 26, Tuesday – Philippines vs Bahrain
11 am, September 28, Thursday – Philippines vs Thailand
5:30 pm, September 30, Saturday – Philippines vs Jordan

I don't know about the standing of these teams but I have a feeling that Gilas will easily beat them.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 22, 2023, 06:24:05 AM

Nice start for Tim Cone as the coach of Gilas.

We have a win tonight.

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Gilas ramps up its Asian Games prep with an 86-81 win over the KBL’s LG Sakers in an exhibition at PhilSports Arena.

From one sports. https://www.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL

Just check out the YouTube highlights of this game. I'm sure many Filipino vloggers will be posting videos with their commentaries regarding the win. I hope this trend continues, even though it's just a tune-up game; it's still very important to us.

No more bashing; it's good for our Gilas Pilipinas. It seems like the coaching style of Tim Cone is very effective, especially with Brownlee, their best player, working with the Ginebra Gin Kings. A tune-up game against a good team is already a success. I believe they are already prepared for the Asian Games.

Are there any other tune-up games scheduled before their first game in the Asian Games?

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Nice start for Tim Cone as the coach of Gilas.

We have a win tonight.

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Gilas ramps up its Asian Games prep with an 86-81 win over the KBL’s LG Sakers in an exhibition at PhilSports Arena.

From one sports. https://www.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL

Just check out the YouTube highlights of this game. I'm sure many Filipino vloggers will be posting videos with their commentaries regarding the win. I hope this trend continues, even though it's just a tune-up game; it's still very important to us.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 22, 2023, 05:30:47 AM

That's why he can't demand higher fees to the team maybe he need to get more trophy or accolades to his team before he can ask that. But it seems that no team can do that since he's not a superstar level like Junemar that's why he became a free agent right now. If he's belief that his worth than that maybe we cannot see him play on PBA anymore.

If we check his stats https://www.flashscore.ph/en/player/teng-jeron/d8S4K9a1/ this is decent but not worth the price demanded.

This guy thinks that teams will pursue him and give him what he asks for. Real talk, he can't even lead his team to a championship and he is asking that kind of money? In the recent draft, there are many rookies that are available in his position, young, talented, and cheaper so I think Converge would let go of this guy.

You are right, maybe we won't see him anymore in the PBA just like what happened to Greg Slaughter.

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