2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 137.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 16, 2023, 06:21:54 AM

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Quote from: Questat on June 16, 2023, 03:55:12 AM

Who among the bettors is brave enough to take the moneyline odds?

I didn't bet on the game, but by the looks of it, it seems like DYIP has a decent chance of winning now as they are leading the game. It's already the 3rd quarter, and there is still plenty of time left, so there's no assurance as to which team will win. However, if you happened to bet on the underdog, I'm certain you're feeling positive now.

DYIP indeed won the game dominantly with a score of 110-96.

It was a profitable night for the bettors who took the risk and placed their money on the DYIP's moneyline odds. This PBA tour has been quite predictable, favoring the underdog. Typically, even if the underdog loses, they often manage to cover the point spread, and if they win, bettors enjoy a substantial return. In summary, betting on the underdog has proven to be profitable during this tour.

Profitable indeed hehe, i missed that first game but i'm now betting the second game. Have TNT +9.5 @1.87 right now with TNT leading by 3 points 26-23, let us see if they can cover the spread. TNT was a huge underdog maybe, wonder whose playing at the moment for them but one thing is for sure, Magnolia isn't complete as well so yeah betting for the underdog is the way for us get profit in this PBA-on-tour games.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 16, 2023, 05:24:03 AM

Quote from: Questat on June 16, 2023, 03:55:12 AM

Who among the bettors is brave enough to take the moneyline odds?

I didn't bet on the game, but by the looks of it, it seems like DYIP has a decent chance of winning now as they are leading the game. It's already the 3rd quarter, and there is still plenty of time left, so there's no assurance as to which team will win. However, if you happened to bet on the underdog, I'm certain you're feeling positive now.

DYIP indeed won the game dominantly with a score of 110-96.

It was a profitable night for the bettors who took the risk and placed their money on the DYIP's moneyline odds. This PBA tour has been quite predictable, favoring the underdog. Typically, even if the underdog loses, they often manage to cover the point spread, and if they win, bettors enjoy a substantial return. In summary, betting on the underdog has proven to be profitable during this tour.

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Quote from: Questat on June 16, 2023, 03:55:12 AM

Who among the bettors is brave enough to take the moneyline odds?

I didn't bet on the game, but by the looks of it, it seems like DYIP has a decent chance of winning now as they are leading the game. It's already the 3rd quarter, and there is still plenty of time left, so there's no assurance as to which team will win. However, if you happened to bet on the underdog, I'm certain you're feeling positive now.

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We have Terraferma DYIP vs NLEX in the first game today. According to the moneyline betting odds, DYIP is the underdog with odds of 3.55. Could this potentially be another significant upset where those who believe in DYIP's victory will be rewarded?

Blackwater has previously caused an upset by defeating Converge, so it is indeed possible, especially considering that we are currently in the "PBA on Tour" where games have no bearing on teams' records.

Who among the bettors is brave enough to take the moneyline odds?

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Quote from: harizen on June 15, 2023, 05:36:13 PM

However, they have the ability to spoil the seeding and positioning of those teams who are battling for the top seed which might wreck the plan of sister companies of not meeting each other in the first phase of the playoffs.

That's the only thing they can do for now as long as the PBA will not change to having teams with one owner only, that kind of system which is the farm system will exist. PBA is a major league in the Philippines but you can hear a lot of criticism about this league, however, they should look at the future of the league as there are already leagues out there that are patronized by some fans.

We don't want to hear in the future still about PBA being rigged.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 15, 2023, 01:54:38 PM

They can enjoy winning in the exhibition games, but I have doubts about their success once the PBA season officially opens. These players certainly have talent, but we cannot deny the fact that Blackwater will likely continue to serve as a farm team for bigger teams in the PBA.

You have a point mate and that's really close to 100% lol.

Although if we look at the positive side, it might give Blackwater, at least, a good encouragement that they can match against those mid-tier teams and not that their team actually always ended up a loser. The ongoing PBA On-Tour gives most teams, especially low-tier teams to somehow sees what else can they do in terms of adjustment or roster management once the season goes live.

Let's admit that Blackwater has a low chance of even qualifying for the Quarterfinals with a Do-Or-Die disadvantage especially if we refer to the "All-Filipino Cup Conference" where the strength of each team purely relies on locals. However, they have the ability to spoil the seeding and positioning of those teams who are battling for the top seed which might wreck the plan of sister companies of not meeting each other in the first phase of the playoffs.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 15, 2023, 02:23:25 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 15, 2023, 01:54:38 PM

Quote from: SamReomo on June 15, 2023, 10:12:18 AM

By the way, McCarthy from the "BLACKWATER" team has played very well to make the team as a winner, the guy scored 30 points against "Converge," and from the later team the Justine Arana did his best with the score of 32, but still the BLACKWATER was victorious in the match by scoring 102 points against Converge.

They can enjoy winning in the exhibition games, but I have doubts about their success once the PBA season officially opens. These players certainly have talent, but we cannot deny the fact that Blackwater will likely continue to serve as a farm team for bigger teams in the PBA.

Most probably, during the regular season, every game is serious and matters, so the better team typically wins. In the case of Blackwater, I believe they have a similar overall standing to the DYIP, which is mostly at the bottom.

As of the current rankings, they have already won three games with only two losses, defeating the following teams:

Converge by 5 points
Terraferma DYIP by 6 points
NLEX by 5 points

In actual games, I doubt they will be able to beat NLEX and Converge.

That's quite unusual because Blackwater doesn't typically maintain such a good record as they have now. You may be correct in noting that these are mostly exhibition games where defense is not heavily emphasized. However, these games provide an opportunity for the players to stay in condition before the season resumes. The extended break also allows injured players from the previous conference to recover, and we can anticipate their return, making the upcoming conference more exciting to watch. We've already seen Romeo play, and hopefully, he'll receive more playing time in the actual games.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 15, 2023, 01:54:38 PM

Quote from: SamReomo on June 15, 2023, 10:12:18 AM

By the way, McCarthy from the "BLACKWATER" team has played very well to make the team as a winner, the guy scored 30 points against "Converge," and from the later team the Justine Arana did his best with the score of 32, but still the BLACKWATER was victorious in the match by scoring 102 points against Converge.

They can enjoy winning in the exhibition games, but I have doubts about their success once the PBA season officially opens. These players certainly have talent, but we cannot deny the fact that Blackwater will likely continue to serve as a farm team for bigger teams in the PBA.

Most probably, during the regular season, every game is serious and matters, so the better team typically wins. In the case of Blackwater, I believe they have a similar overall standing to the DYIP, which is mostly at the bottom.

As of the current rankings, they have already won three games with only two losses, defeating the following teams:

Converge by 5 points
Terraferma DYIP by 6 points
NLEX by 5 points

In actual games, I doubt they will be able to beat NLEX and Converge.

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Quote from: SamReomo on June 15, 2023, 10:12:18 AM

By the way, McCarthy from the "BLACKWATER" team has played very well to make the team as a winner, the guy scored 30 points against "Converge," and from the later team the Justine Arana did his best with the score of 32, but still the BLACKWATER was victorious in the match by scoring 102 points against Converge.

They can enjoy winning in the exhibition games, but I have doubts about their success once the PBA season officially opens. These players certainly have talent, but we cannot deny the fact that Blackwater will likely continue to serve as a farm team for bigger teams in the PBA.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 14, 2023, 08:32:24 AM

Who was able to bet on the Blackwater Bossing against Converge? I checked the odds before the game, and they were very attractive for the Bossing. I was actually considering placing a bet, but I got busy and ended up forgetting about the upcoming game. It's frustrating; it could have been easy money.

The score was 97-102

Ah, sometimes we will have to miss such opportunities and you are right in saying that it was easy money that we missed. I also didn't bet on that match and regretted later on, but if something is gone then let it go, and wait for another such events to happen. We can't do anything but to keep positive outlook in future wins.

By the way, McCarthy from the "BLACKWATER" team has played very well to make the team as a winner, the guy scored 30 points against "Converge," and from the later team the Justine Arana did his best with the score of 32, but still the BLACKWATER was victorious in the match by scoring 102 points against Converge.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 14, 2023, 08:32:24 AM

Who was able to bet on the Blackwater Bossing against Converge? I checked the odds before the game, and they were very attractive for the Bossing. I was actually considering placing a bet, but I got busy and ended up forgetting about the upcoming game. It's frustrating; it could have been easy money.

The score was 97-102

Was not able to bet also for this game but i could have lose if i do because i would go for Converge. The thing that i noticed on this PBA-on-tour was that the ratio of the underdogs winning the game was higher so if one was betting on the underdog the whole tournament would end up getting huge profit i think. On the contrary, Ginebra won on the second game against Phoenix where the Gin Kings was the slight favorite.

Meanwhile, Junemar Fajardo was declared healthy once again and fit to play on the FIBA World Cup'23 which will happen in the coming months. I think the timing is good since their is a high chance that Kai Sotto will miss this tournament because of personal dealing with the Dallas Mavericks.

Actually for now it's okay to loss because this is not the elimination round yet but kudos to the under dog teams which is they performed well they do their best and what we saw nowadays is Rain or shine is on the top which is pretty good to know and to see their performances. But what I said this is a long run so we can not predict yet.

About to ABAY junemar fajardo then it's a big good news that he is one of our representatives which is he is very useful to our team.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 14, 2023, 08:32:24 AM

Who was able to bet on the Blackwater Bossing against Converge? I checked the odds before the game, and they were very attractive for the Bossing. I was actually considering placing a bet, but I got busy and ended up forgetting about the upcoming game. It's frustrating; it could have been easy money.

The score was 97-102

Was not able to bet also for this game but i could have lose if i do because i would go for Converge. The thing that i noticed on this PBA-on-tour was that the ratio of the underdogs winning the game was higher so if one was betting on the underdog the whole tournament would end up getting huge profit i think. On the contrary, Ginebra won on the second game against Phoenix where the Gin Kings was the slight favorite.

Meanwhile, Junemar Fajardo was declared healthy once again and fit to play on the FIBA World Cup'23 which will happen in the coming months. I think the timing is good since their is a high chance that Kai Sotto will miss this tournament because of personal dealing with the Dallas Mavericks.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 11, 2023, 05:17:47 PM

I want to follow you with your statement regarding to those PBA players who decided to sign with MPBL, I know it's not about the salary but more on the exposure and for them to enhance their skills, with PBA they will have a limited time but with MPBL they can be one of the star of the team.

We can't remove the fact that there are many pinoy talents and good thing that MPBL are adopting those rising stars and giving them exposures.

I couldn't agree more with you mate Grin

. Raw talent that needs development will just be stagnant in the PBA if you don't have good connections with the coaching staff, i mean those players who are not sons or families of some coaching staff will just be bench warmer or practice player if their talent is just regular.

I've read an article that stated that a certain player refuses the offer of a certain PBA team to join MPBL, that sounds insulting to the PBA itself but maybe that guy have a good reason why he opt out of the PBA, just like you said, maybe playing time or exposure so that may scouts from a foreign team could see his talent and bring him overseas where the money is good.

Yeah they've got lots of reason and one of those is the point that you are mentioning about favoritism and playing time exposures, even you have your contract and you are secured to recieve your monthly payment it's still better to have that chance to play, and with how our neighboring countries are pirating players, those who choose to play outside PBA might get that chance and for sure it will be more money and exposures if they manage to play overseas.

Quote from: Yamifoud on June 14, 2023, 08:32:24 AM

Who was able to bet on the Blackwater Bossing against Converge? I checked the odds before the game, and they were very attractive for the Bossing. I was actually considering placing a bet, but I got busy and ended up forgetting about the upcoming game. It's frustrating; it could have been easy money.

The score was 97-102

A missed opportunity and for sure very frustrating since the outcome really favor your supposed bet, nothing can be done about that but to try to check back those available games and make sure to place your bet to avoid regretting again.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 14, 2023, 08:32:24 AM

Who was able to bet on the Blackwater Bossing against Converge? I checked the odds before the game, and they were very attractive for the Bossing. I was actually considering placing a bet, but I got busy and ended up forgetting about the upcoming game. It's frustrating; it could have been easy money.

The score was 97-102

Well, mate, you missed out on a great opportunity. Betting on the Bossing could have been an easy way to make money, considering the high odds. In exhibition games like these, it's difficult to predict the winner, as even strong teams can lose. It's always wise to consider betting on the underdog, which could have given you a chance to enjoy significant profits.

Looking at the current standings on https://pba.ph/standings, Blackwater is in the top 4, while ROS has surprised everyone by claiming the top spot which does not usually happen in a regular season.

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Who was able to bet on the Blackwater Bossing against Converge? I checked the odds before the game, and they were very attractive for the Bossing. I was actually considering placing a bet, but I got busy and ended up forgetting about the upcoming game. It's frustrating; it could have been easy money.

The score was 97-102

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 11, 2023, 05:17:47 PM

I want to follow you with your statement regarding to those PBA players who decided to sign with MPBL, I know it's not about the salary but more on the exposure and for them to enhance their skills, with PBA they will have a limited time but with MPBL they can be one of the star of the team.

We can't remove the fact that there are many pinoy talents and good thing that MPBL are adopting those rising stars and giving them exposures.

I couldn't agree more with you mate Grin

. Raw talent that needs development will just be stagnant in the PBA if you don't have good connections with the coaching staff, i mean those players who are not sons or families of some coaching staff will just be bench warmer or practice player if their talent is just regular.

I've read an article that stated that a certain player refuses the offer of a certain PBA team to join MPBL, that sounds insulting to the PBA itself but maybe that guy have a good reason why he opt out of the PBA, just like you said, maybe playing time or exposure so that may scouts from a foreign team could see his talent and bring him overseas where the money is good.

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Quote from: blockman on June 11, 2023, 06:11:55 PM

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Nope, they've already finalized and released the roster of who are gonna participate in these tournaments. While some other PBA players are getting extension contracts, I have also seen those players that have declined it and chosen to play for MPBL. We can't blame them if they're getting better exposure through MPBL. I guess it's not about the salary or maybe it is but I know these guys want to have more play time and that's what they're getting sure with MPBL and other leagues.

I want to follow you with your statement regarding to those PBA players who decided to sign with MPBL, I know it's not about the salary but more on the exposure and for them to enhance their skills, with PBA they will have a limited time but with MPBL they can be one of the star of the team.

We can't remove the fact that there are many pinoy talents and good thing that MPBL are adopting those rising stars and giving them exposures.

Yeah right, MPBL is open to accepting players from PBA or from any other leagues because they're giving the same opportunity for all. Whilst in PBA, it all depends on the coaching staff and to the management if they're gonna give them their break. Well, with that situation we know what happened with Abandon being part of the national team and being coached by a PBA coach whom is Chot. And that's what's happening for some other teams that they don't give break to the good ones and that's why they're leaving the league and jumping on the other leagues because they'll get more playing time and exposure and the PBA is even not appreciating those talents and thinks high of themselves for imposing such rules.

Nothing to argue about that, good thing that aside from PBA and MPBL our neighboring leagues are also acquiring players and they are giving huge amount of offers, PBA is already manipulated or maybe much better to say dominated by two giant companies, they are controlling the league in terms of having super teams with their squad,

leaving those individual franchise with lesser to nothing compared to other teams that own by these two companies.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 11, 2023, 05:17:47 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 11, 2023, 05:05:06 PM

Nope, they've already finalized and released the roster of who are gonna participate in these tournaments. While some other PBA players are getting extension contracts, I have also seen those players that have declined it and chosen to play for MPBL. We can't blame them if they're getting better exposure through MPBL. I guess it's not about the salary or maybe it is but I know these guys want to have more play time and that's what they're getting sure with MPBL and other leagues.

I want to follow you with your statement regarding to those PBA players who decided to sign with MPBL, I know it's not about the salary but more on the exposure and for them to enhance their skills, with PBA they will have a limited time but with MPBL they can be one of the star of the team.

We can't remove the fact that there are many pinoy talents and good thing that MPBL are adopting those rising stars and giving them exposures.

Yeah right, MPBL is open to accepting players from PBA or from any other leagues because they're giving the same opportunity for all. Whilst in PBA, it all depends on the coaching staff and to the management if they're gonna give them their break. Well, with that situation we know what happened with Abandon being part of the national team and being coached by a PBA coach whom is Chot. And that's what's happening for some other teams that they don't give break to the good ones and that's why they're leaving the league and jumping on the other leagues because they'll get more playing time and exposure and the PBA is even not appreciating those talents and thinks high of themselves for imposing such rules.

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Quote from: blockman on June 11, 2023, 05:05:06 PM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 11, 2023, 10:38:46 AM

Based on my observations, it seems that only a few fans here are watching the games. Unlike before, there used to be lots of updates in this thread every time there was a game.

It's because the PBA new season hasn't commenced yet. Currently, still on PBA On-Tour or Pre-season.

Yeah, that's because they're still on the tour and that's why we have to be patient on this one. This is like giving it all to the fans that would like to watch some live games. The official season will be back in October and this is also because they'll give time and window for the world cup and Asian games. This is good to see that the PBA is coordinating and also giving this to the national team which has been criticized before when they didn't coordinate and allowed some players from the big franchises to participant.

We have to wait longer this time as PBA is giving time for our National team to prepare for the upcoming World Cup and this is actually good, unfortunately Gilas team didn’t start their training yet as they as still finalizing the players. MPBL is rising, let’s not just compare and let the players enjoy the basketball. PBA is too small for our big population, its good that there’s a MPBL now to accommodate other good players.

Nope, they've already finalized and released the roster of who are gonna participate in these tournaments. While some other PBA players are getting extension contracts, I have also seen those players that have declined it and chosen to play for MPBL. We can't blame them if they're getting better exposure through MPBL. I guess it's not about the salary or maybe it is but I know these guys want to have more play time and that's what they're getting sure with MPBL and other leagues.

I want to follow you with your statement regarding to those PBA players who decided to sign with MPBL, I know it's not about the salary but more on the exposure and for them to enhance their skills, with PBA they will have a limited time but with MPBL they can be one of the star of the team.

We can't remove the fact that there are many pinoy talents and good thing that MPBL are adopting those rising stars and giving them exposures.

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Quote from: goaldigger on June 11, 2023, 03:58:03 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 11, 2023, 03:00:00 PM

Quote from: harizen on June 11, 2023, 02:37:47 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 11, 2023, 10:38:46 AM

Based on my observations, it seems that only a few fans here are watching the games. Unlike before, there used to be lots of updates in this thread every time there was a game.

It's because the PBA new season hasn't commenced yet. Currently, still on PBA On-Tour or Pre-season.

Yeah, that's because they're still on the tour and that's why we have to be patient on this one. This is like giving it all to the fans that would like to watch some live games. The official season will be back in October and this is also because they'll give time and window for the world cup and Asian games. This is good to see that the PBA is coordinating and also giving this to the national team which has been criticized before when they didn't coordinate and allowed some players from the big franchises to participant.

We have to wait longer this time as PBA is giving time for our National team to prepare for the upcoming World Cup and this is actually good, unfortunately Gilas team didn’t start their training yet as they as still finalizing the players. MPBL is rising, let’s not just compare and let the players enjoy the basketball. PBA is too small for our big population, its good that there’s a MPBL now to accommodate other good players.

Nope, they've already finalized and released the roster of who are gonna participate in these tournaments. While some other PBA players are getting extension contracts, I have also seen those players that have declined it and chosen to play for MPBL. We can't blame them if they're getting better exposure through MPBL. I guess it's not about the salary or maybe it is but I know these guys want to have more play time and that's what they're getting sure with MPBL and other leagues.

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