Topic: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 147. (Read 101137 times)

IIRC, players who have played abroad are still welcome to play for PBA. It's just that some people in the management are butthurt that they're seeing players getting offers on KBL, B League and other leagues offshore. Regardless of that, the PBA should still welcome them as it's like a pride that's been with them and having players that have played for other leagues. Btw, have you seen guys the roster for the Gilas? it's an interesting line up and I guess we've got some chance with the roster they've released.

I think it's not coach Chot who likes the Ravena bros but i think it's the MVP group of companies honcho himself likes them to be on one of his teams (just my two cents hehe). They might be on the poll right now on the Gilas team but i think they would not be included in the final lineup because they are too small for their positions while playing in the FIBA. Dwight Ramos, Clarkson, Malonzo will be included so no need for the Ravena bros, they are just there for practice purposes.

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Back to PBA betting, lost my bet for SMB as they lose by two points to the ROS Elastopainters and DYIP defeated also the heavy favorite TNT Katropa, congrats to those who bet on the underdogs last night.

Tomorrow's game:
Blackwater vs NorthPort
Phoenix vs NLEX

No odds yet but surely Blackwater and Phoenix will be the underdogs here.

He needs to ensure that these two players make significant contributions, considering they will likely face criticism once again. Despite the fans' call for him to resign, he continues to coach the Gilas team. It is evident that the fans want Coach Tab to lead the team again, but the SBP has chosen to disregard their wishes. It's not that we don't support our team, but rather we are unsatisfied with the current coaching style.

We really don't know if how long coach Chot will ignore the fans about the Ravena's seems that he's really admiring these two players even there are players who more deserving to earn the place, I will personally be glad if you are right that these two bros are just here to attend the trainings and just to improve their individual skills.

Though I won't be surprise if I will see their names when playing in FIBA world, the trust that Reyes have for these two boys is really unimaginable, ignoring the fans and let the bash to continue is something that a coach Chot is willing to accept for the Ravenas.

Nope, the Ravena brothers are greatly appreciated by coach Chot Reyes, but they are disliked by the fans. I think we need athletes who are bigger, stronger, and consistent to represent our country. This is not just a simple game; it's already on the FIBA world stage. Therefore, I believe that Ravena joined the team for training purposes only, specifically to improve his game in the B league.

Playing outside our country is very good decision as we all know that the salary is much bigger and also the opportunity you've got once you are in a broad game. And about Ravena returning here in the Philippines is quite surprise to us maybe there's a chance that this upcoming Fiba world cup he is the one who represent our country just my prediction.
For me about our abroad players will have a chance to play in PBA then the commissioners must allowed that because they are Filipinos so they must accept.

Ravena is back!

https://www.onesports.ph/pba/article/12503/look-who-s-back-kiefer-ravena-dons-nlex-colors

I was quite surprised, thinking he had returned for good. However, upon reading the article, I discovered that he was only here for training. Nevertheless, I have heard that there is a new rule in the PBA now that allows players who have already played abroad to still participate in the PBA. This is great news for those who choose to play overseas rather than joining the PBA as a professional.

Odds are out:

Tropang Giga @1.36,  Dyip @3.10
SMB @1.64,  ROS Elastopainters @2.22

I don't know about the first game but if we are interested then Dyip ML @3.10 is an attractive odds because TNT has not won a game yet though they only played one game but i don't think that they are going full force as most of there core players are out.

On the second game, i would still go for the SMB because TR7 is waxing hot in this pre-season games as if he is trying to proved something here, maybe he want his playing minutes back.

SMB -2.5 @1.88 vs ROS

Just note that ROS's record is 2-0, they have not lost a game yet.

Unlike way back the 90' and 2000 where teams are really competing with a heart, now, players are more into money and coaches, managers and team owners are more on the business and not with the competition per se', not sure if I have that same sentiments with those who cheer for Alaska against all the solid squads of PBA,.

I mean when we look on that era we can say that all the teams are really playing with the heart of winning they are not being questions of game rigging if so, that's not so obvious unlike with how it's going right now since sister companies are playing against each other.


Hahaha, and if you are lucky and the underdog dominates the favorite, the winning odd is decent. Unlike with favorite and if they will not go all in as this is just an exhibition game, anything can happen..

Enough with the speculation, hehe.. Tomorrow we have two games to watch and to bet on.

https://pba.ph/

TNT tropang Giga vs DYIP @05:00 PM
SMB Beermen vs ROS @07:30 PM

As to the betting odds, as of now, there are no pregame odds yet, so we have no choice but to wait for the game to live so we can also put our bet on live. Since this is more like a preseason or exhibition game, it's wise to bet on an underdog team as favorite teams to win are likely overvalued by the bookies.

The more these two wealthy men own a team, the more they can potentially influence the outcome of the game, leading some people to speculate about the possibility of rigging in the PBA. Well, let's wait for the news to come up. At least now we know that Coverge or Dennis Uy has no plans of keeping this team on his side for the long term.

I also see that possibilities, just a change in hands from Alaska to make sure that these two giant companies will get the franchise and no other outsider can acquire the team, for me, before they bought it from alaska they are well-aware of the situation they know that the dominance of these two companies are existing not going to buy that they don't know it or they don't believe that it's really happening inside the league before they decide to get that brand and rename it to their business.

I'm not sure, but I suppose Converge was already aware of that fact before they purchased Alaska and rebranded it as Converge. Perhaps they acquired Alaska with the intention of selling it at a higher price. It's possible that there are companies interested in buying the team, and I have a feeling that it could be either from the Pangilinan or Cojuangco group.

Oh my, I got surprised and a bit shock by that unexpected plan by Converge.

Even though I want to badly expect that Converge shouldn't think of selling the franchise, their reasons are "valid" enough to consider it even if I'm on their feet. Financially wise, I see that Converge is capable of spending big money to keep up with the competition in the league. It's just that, how can they even use that big money to market big players if they are always bound to end up in either SMC or MVP teams because even the Commissioner itself is approving a crappy trade in favor of the giant franchises.

Independent teams' only chance to get good-caliber players without marketing a big fish is if that will come directly from their respective rookie draft picks and eventually will be turned into a rising star. But since these players are targeted by big franchises, and players themselves want too a good paycheck that only big franchises can give, eventually they will leave that independent team. Players' loyalty is subjective today as they also care about their financial goals.

Converge is the only independent team right now that I saw seriously competing with the big teams. They got a big improvement already within just a few seasons. But they are also right that "Who wants to watch a "competition" where the outcome is so predictable?

Let's follow the progress of that story.

Early in the first half SMB is in lead by 14 points, let see if they can continue doing the damage and not to allow the Kings to come back and snatch this game away from them, though still too early and knowing how PBA can shift from momentum to another, even the team is in lead by 20-30 points until the clock still running opposing team can still take the game away.

Not seeing CStand number though I'm just checking the score online, maybe he's not playing while TR7 already has 3 points playing for 10 minutes now..

I don't want to derail the current topic here whatsoever (and I don't watch these On-tour games also), but it seems like this might be a problem for the whole PBA if they will not change something.

Converge, who has been in the league for I think three seasons already is putting up the franchise for sale.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/frustrated-converge-weighs-putting-pba-franchise-up-for-sale-a2244-20230601?ref=feed_1_section

This quote alone is very powerful, and it's the truth, and all of us agree on it. Converge which is considered an independent team tried to change the looks of all independent teams thru getting better players, and compete against SMC, and MVP, but it seems like the virus is incurable already. The League is running by a duopoly of SMC, and MVP. I will not be surprised if 5-10 years from now, the league will not be as popular anymore. TBH, those other leagues like the MPBL, and the UAAP itself are more popular and exciting to watch on live than PBA which is very predictable already.

Read the article, and you will agree on what the author has said. Sorry for derailing as well, but this problem has been there for years, and no one can stop it. Maybe if we will change the Commissioner to a better one then it might solve the problem.

Odds at the moment for the SMB vs Ginebra game tonight,
Ginebra @1.83   SMB @1.91

Without their key players, this will be a guessing game but for me, Ginebra got a little advantage because not listed as out was Christian Standhardinger so I think the Kings have the advantage on the post if they will let Cstand plays heavy minutes.

One thing though for SMB is that TR7 is back and might wreak havoc on the field and be unstoppable for the Kings so again, a guessing game for us bettors but I'm more inclined to bet for the Kings here.

Exactly, the real games are not started yet but I think there's still awarding with regards to this off season games.
Ginebra team are surely compose of good players even without their star players, so they can still have a win here.
Its good that PBA adjust and game more time for their players to practice with the Gilas in preparation of the World cup. This is just a Months away and I hope Gilas will perform better this time even if we are going against the power house.

PBA on-tour is just like an exhibition game, and Yes, you'll not go to expect any app-out game between these two sister company but one thing on this game that I really like, TR7 is now back and he's been playing some minutes now, maybe they are now working on him and checking his injury, chances that he will be part of the rotation moving back on the upcoming new season, I missed him playing and with good body condition for sure he will bring more good offense and more options for the team.

The new season isn't started, yet no single conference has also commence as of now. The PBA adjust their schedule to give way for the Gilas players to fully prepare on the upcoming FIBA World Cup and Asian Games. The current PBA games are called "On Tour" or simply pre-season or tune-up games.

In most cases, you can't expect teams to go all-out at that kind of games, and key players are not utilized. The pre-game note between Brgy. Ginebra and San Miguel Beermen stated that both teams will play without their full strength lineup.

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Ginebra - Scottie Thompson, Jamie Malonzo, Japeth Aguilar and even their head coach, Tim Cone
San Miguel - June Mar Fajardo, CJ Perez, Chris Ross, Marcio Lassiter and Vic Manuel