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May 30, 2023, 07:29:54 AM

A great experienced and for sure they are all knowledgeable now on how to adjust to every situation when you are competing against 7-8 man inside the court, hahaha.. Kidding!

I know what you mean, hehe. Well, in the PBA Finals, we've seen that it may not have been the crowd that helped Ginebra win, but rather the referees. It seemed like the game wasn't just about Team A vs. Team B; it felt more like a matchup between the Philippines and China, so I understand why a huge crowd was there to support Ginebra.

As long Ginebra will reach the Finals, it will bring a lot of money to the league, so expect them to play against Bay Area in the season to come.
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May 30, 2023, 07:15:57 AM

The league though must be clear now to the rules and terms of import restriction for the foreign team as if we remembered, Coach Yeng Guiao got surprised when they faced the Bay Area Dragons with a new import, Nicholson, as supposedly the team will play with no import as Powell got sidelined because of injury that time.

I think this was already ironed out and no surprises about this issue come Commissioner's Cup.

It's great that they announced it early, allowing the team to prepare and strategize on how to be competitive against the BAD. When they first played in the PBA, they were incredibly dominant, overpowering even strong teams. However, it was Ginebra who managed to stop them and defeat them in a thrilling seven-game series. That series was widely regarded as one of the best PBA Finals in history. Now that they are back, I hope BAD will make it to the Finals again and have a rematch against Ginebra.

I'm not doubting that the Dragons can make it again to the finals, they've got complete solid selections a core players who can give you decent stats when needed, they just got surprised with how Gin kings played with the heart something that they don't expect as the brgy fans are really showing full support and with how all the players of Gin kings showcase all the capabilities to help the team.

A great experienced and for sure they are all knowledgeable now on how to adjust to every situation when you are competing against 7-8 man inside the court, hahaha.. Kidding!
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May 30, 2023, 06:54:30 AM

The league though must be clear now to the rules and terms of import restriction for the foreign team as if we remembered, Coach Yeng Guiao got surprised when they faced the Bay Area Dragons with a new import, Nicholson, as supposedly the team will play with no import as Powell got sidelined because of injury that time.

I think this was already ironed out and no surprises about this issue come Commissioner's Cup.

It's great that they announced it early, allowing the team to prepare and strategize on how to be competitive against the BAD. When they first played in the PBA, they were incredibly dominant, overpowering even strong teams. However, it was Ginebra who managed to stop them and defeat them in a thrilling seven-game series. That series was widely regarded as one of the best PBA Finals in history. Now that they are back, I hope BAD will make it to the Finals again and have a rematch against Ginebra.
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May 30, 2023, 05:43:47 AM
I also like the plan of PBA to consider Bay Area Dragons to take part of the upcoming conference with imports. Not just specifically for the Dragons but any foreign team should do. If by any chance, it's even more entertaining if 2 foreign teams can possibly accommodate even that was a hard task to do.

I think that it's already a done deal that Bay Area Dragons will be back in the PBA for this Commissioner's Cup, have read in my social media feed that some PBA teams will have a game with the Dragons overseas so this is a welcome sight for those OFW's that love watching the PBA live.

I remembered June Mar Fajardo when SMB got eliminated by the Dragons in the Semi-Finals of the Commissioners Cup last season that he wants the league to repeat the invitational of guest teams.

I also remember that one. That's because when imports are playing, locals will be forced to elevate their games as to match their game so in the process the PBA players will also improved their skills and also the coaching strategy of the PBA will improve as they will adjust to the style of the guest teams.

The league though must be clear now to the rules and terms of import restriction for the foreign team as if we remembered, Coach Yeng Guiao got surprised when they faced the Bay Area Dragons with a new import, Nicholson, as supposedly the team will play with no import as Powell got sidelined because of injury that time.

I think this was already ironed out and no surprises about this issue come Commissioner's Cup.
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May 30, 2023, 12:01:18 AM
The famous line "Learning experienced" hehehe it's been a long process and maybe if that learning experience will be compared to an ordinary job or something, the time for learning for me is long enough maybe they are not learning hehehe.. Just my own cent!

Chot Reyes's now famous quote "learning experience" is only effective against South East Asia Country. There is no doubt that we are the most dominant country in basketball in the whole South East Asia. But if we talked about a much higher stage, which is competing against the whole ASIA countries and GLOBAL countries, that learning experience is just a never-ending cycle.

We can't be carried by 1 naturalized player, even let's say NBA caliber, on the higher stage. Here in the Asia region alone, the country is even struggling to compete against, for example, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc. which almost have the same height as most of our local players. How much worst against China, Lebanon, Iraq, etc?

If only the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) did their job of securing those potential young prospects with half-Pinoy blood that are based in other countries as a future players for the Philippine team, we can have several big names in the team aside from the naturalized player. Jordan Clarkson is a half-Pinoy but SBP failed to seriously focus on him at an early age even though he's popular already in the big leagues in the US. In the end, JC didn't secure a PH passport before turning 18, and it's not possible for him to play at our local team as a local player instead of a naturalized player. We should be seeing Justin Brownlee + Jordan Clarkson tandem if things just went right.
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May 27, 2023, 12:16:18 PM
I also like the plan of PBA to consider Bay Area Dragons to take part of the upcoming conference with imports. Not just specifically for the Dragons but any foreign team should do. If by any chance, it's even more entertaining if 2 foreign teams can possibly accommodate even that was a hard task to do.

I remembered June Mar Fajardo when SMB got eliminated by the Dragons in the Semi-Finals of the Commissioners Cup last season that he wants the league to repeat the invitational of guest teams.

The league though must be clear now to the rules and terms of import restriction for the foreign team as if we remembered, Coach Yeng Guiao got surprised when they faced the Bay Area Dragons with a new import, Nicholson, as supposedly the team will play with no import as Powell got sidelined because of injury that time.
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May 26, 2023, 11:37:04 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played.
I'm sure they don't and I guess they're trying to prove that it won't happen again. I guess they just lack the preparation and this is why they're bringing this up.

I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
For sure that they are not when they've been sponsoring a team that's already out of the league too early. They want more exposure and I think that they'll think of the roster that they'll send there and it's not just going to consist of 1 team but it can be a combination of other players from other teams as well and that's more desirable.
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May 26, 2023, 09:57:10 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
All Fans hoping that our team can compete another country with a good standing and scoring but For me they will face a struggle as we all know that their opponents are too strong and have the high advantages. While our representative is small but terrible they can dominate their opponent for sure even in a small gap cause I know that they can not make a huge gap once they will face a very strong team.
They'll be fine in the FIBA world cup because even if we lose, it will still be beneficial to us as we gain a 'learning experience,' a famous line from Gilas Coach, as we all know. Gilas is enjoyable to watch now, especially with Brownlee as the naturalized player. He plays with great intensity, and I can see that he has the Filipino spirit within him, never willing to give up.

Nothing to say about how Brownlee played with the heart but if there's some social post regarding to JC, there's a possibility that he will be the one that will play as Naturalized and not Brownlee not sure though as there's no update yet regarding to this, but along the line whoever will play between the two I'm sure they will bring everything to entertainment the Pinoy fans.

The famous line "Learning experienced" hehehe it's been a long process and maybe if that learning experience will be compared to an ordinary job or something, the time for learning for me is long enough maybe they are not learning hehehe.. Just my own cent!
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May 26, 2023, 07:05:08 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
All Fans hoping that our team can compete another country with a good standing and scoring but For me they will face a struggle as we all know that their opponents are too strong and have the high advantages. While our representative is small but terrible they can dominate their opponent for sure even in a small gap cause I know that they can not make a huge gap once they will face a very strong team.
They'll be fine in the FIBA world cup because even if we lose, it will still be beneficial to us as we gain a 'learning experience,' a famous line from Gilas Coach, as we all know. Gilas is enjoyable to watch now, especially with Brownlee as the naturalized player. He plays with great intensity, and I can see that he has the Filipino spirit within him, never willing to give up.
About brownlee it look like he is very good and have a spirit of Filipino he can make a noise in the court and also by the help of our local players the team makes more stronger and stronger. Also you are right about that even we can not win against to those strong countries out there then we can still have the benefits because we can learn through our losses and once we loss then for sure coaches staff and the players will learn and by the next season they will apply what they've learn.
He certainly feels like a Filipino player because he has been present in most PBA seasons. I'm not sure if he will be able to play in the ALL FILIPINO Cup now that he is a naturalized player, but for the sake of fairness, I don't think the league should allow it. Hehe... Anyway, for this FIBA World Cup, we don't have a legitimate center like we did before with Blatche. So, how are we going to compete well this time?
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May 26, 2023, 06:27:03 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
All Fans hoping that our team can compete another country with a good standing and scoring but For me they will face a struggle as we all know that their opponents are too strong and have the high advantages. While our representative is small but terrible they can dominate their opponent for sure even in a small gap cause I know that they can not make a huge gap once they will face a very strong team.
They'll be fine in the FIBA world cup because even if we lose, it will still be beneficial to us as we gain a 'learning experience,' a famous line from Gilas Coach, as we all know. Gilas is enjoyable to watch now, especially with Brownlee as the naturalized player. He plays with great intensity, and I can see that he has the Filipino spirit within him, never willing to give up.
About brownlee it look like he is very good and have a spirit of Filipino he can make a noise in the court and also by the help of our local players the team makes more stronger and stronger. Also you are right about that even we can not win against to those strong countries out there then we can still have the benefits because we can learn through our losses and once we loss then for sure coaches staff and the players will learn and by the next season they will apply what they've learn.
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May 26, 2023, 06:18:59 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
All Fans hoping that our team can compete another country with a good standing and scoring but For me they will face a struggle as we all know that their opponents are too strong and have the high advantages. While our representative is small but terrible they can dominate their opponent for sure even in a small gap cause I know that they can not make a huge gap once they will face a very strong team.
They'll be fine in the FIBA world cup because even if we lose, it will still be beneficial to us as we gain a 'learning experience,' a famous line from Gilas Coach, as we all know. Gilas is enjoyable to watch now, especially with Brownlee as the naturalized player. He plays with great intensity, and I can see that he has the Filipino spirit within him, never willing to give up.
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May 26, 2023, 02:50:25 AM

Looking to see adjustments and hopefully TR7 will be back on the rotation, I missed those days when he will create space and
pass the ball either with Fajardo or CStan when he still playing for them.

Romeo is still considered a fragile player, but the positive aspect is that he has already won a championship with SMB and was even awarded the Finals MVP. However, if we look at his current situation, it seems that SMB is not utilizing him effectively. In my opinion, it would have been a good decision if he had accepted the offer from a B League team, allowing him to play under a decent contract. There were rumors in the past that he declined the offer out of loyalty to SMB.

Yeah, I also heard that both him and Abueva decline the offer before to play with their respective teams inside PBA, we don't know what's the real score but I'm pretty sure he can still play and he's still young if summing the potential he's still at his prime but injuries are hurting him and all those outside controversy, but just like what I've said hopefully we will be able to see him playing healthy again and start re-establishing his minutes under the current coach.

Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
All Fans hoping that our team can compete another country with a good standing and scoring but For me they will face a struggle as we all know that their opponents are too strong and have the high advantages. While our representative is small but terrible they can dominate their opponent for sure even in a small gap cause I know that they can not make a huge gap once they will face a very strong team.

We are competing before last year if I remember it right, but adjustments from those competing teams are increasing while for the PBA representatives there's no adjustment that much, same team and almost same squad, but yeah looking to see that teams from PBA will come up and be competitive not just simply representing the country but also trying to win the title or even showing the quality of how Pinoy ballers are we in international competitions,

As if remember the league is tied or recognize by FIBA, winning a title will be a big recognition for PBA and also for our country!
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May 25, 2023, 09:05:23 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
All Fans hoping that our team can compete another country with a good standing and scoring but For me they will face a struggle as we all know that their opponents are too strong and have the high advantages. While our representative is small but terrible they can dominate their opponent for sure even in a small gap cause I know that they can not make a huge gap once they will face a very strong team.
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May 25, 2023, 08:57:28 AM
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.

Here we go again with the EASL thing. I hope they won't forget their performance the last time they played. I'm sure the sponsors are not happy about spending a lot of money to bring them to the venue country and witnessing them being dominated by the opposing teams. It cannot happen again, because if we still can't compete, it will expose how obsolete our brand of basketball is.
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May 25, 2023, 08:47:45 AM
I like this when they're adjusting the schedule of PBA in order to give way to the FIBA world cup and other international basketball leagues that will require some of the players from the teams participating the league.
This is essential because if they fail to do so, the league will face criticism. In the FIBA World Cup, it is crucial to bring our best players in order to compete at a high level. It would not be appropriate to send college players who are not yet in the professional league. Therefore, it is obligatory for the PBA to allow their players to represent the country, as we are competing on an international stage.
They've already faced criticism before when they didn't allow some of their players to play for the national team. This is what the basketball nation should be. Giving the adjustment to the teams and players that will contribute to the national team for these important events which is the world cup. I thought that this won't happen based on the past and thought that they've been too selfish and didn't care at all for tournaments like this.

Is it the PBA that's going to shoulder this participation on EASL or it is the SBP/MVP group with the help of PSC? I don't know how things goes there but if this is what's going to happen, this will require a lot of budget for them since games will played on each participating countries.

We should not worry about the expenses because most likely the teams that will participate are own by Pangilinan and Cojuangco, and we know they are 2 of the richest men in the Philippines.
Yeah, I remember MVP that likes these sponsorships if it's with the Philippine Basketball especially if it his company's team that will represent the country on EASL.
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May 25, 2023, 08:17:25 AM

Looking to see adjustments and hopefully TR7 will be back on the rotation, I missed those days when he will create space and
pass the ball either with Fajardo or CStan when he still playing for them.

Romeo is still considered a fragile player, but the positive aspect is that he has already won a championship with SMB and was even awarded the Finals MVP. However, if we look at his current situation, it seems that SMB is not utilizing him effectively. In my opinion, it would have been a good decision if he had accepted the offer from a B League team, allowing him to play under a decent contract. There were rumors in the past that he declined the offer out of loyalty to SMB.
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May 25, 2023, 08:12:59 AM
There's a high probability that he will play as long as he is in good health. SMB needs his minutes on the court because he can provide valuable energy to the team. If they choose not to utilize him, it may be more beneficial to consider trading him.

There is no doubt that SMB will utilize him. While Romeo may not be in his prime, his experience and skills still make him deserving of earning minutes for the team. Too much experimentation by the coach has had its consequences, as we have witnessed. I believe it would be beneficial for SMB to revert to their old style, where Fajardo is the main focal point, and allocate more minutes to the veterans who have proven to be clutch during big games, including Romeo, of course.

I was in the impression that Romeo will leave the team and will explore playing outside the country, but upon checking the current tour lineup I saw his name meaning to say that there's no trade or there's no change on his career for now, and with how I read the new coach, he's not giving any sign to bring that old plays that gives them the successful run during coach Leo's era.

Like you, I believe that if he will try that back and let the veterans to run the play, they are more comfortable rotating with that play.

Looking to see adjustments and hopefully TR7 will be back on the rotation, I missed those days when he will create space and
pass the ball either with Fajardo or CStan when he still playing for them.
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May 25, 2023, 08:02:22 AM
I like this when they're adjusting the schedule of PBA in order to give way to the FIBA world cup and other international basketball leagues that will require some of the players from the teams participating the league.

This is essential because if they fail to do so, the league will face criticism. In the FIBA World Cup, it is crucial to bring our best players in order to compete at a high level. It would not be appropriate to send college players who are not yet in the professional league. Therefore, it is obligatory for the PBA to allow their players to represent the country, as we are competing on an international stage.


Is it the PBA that's going to shoulder this participation on EASL or it is the SBP/MVP group with the help of PSC? I don't know how things goes there but if this is what's going to happen, this will require a lot of budget for them since games will played on each participating countries.

We should not worry about the expenses because most likely the teams that will participate are own by Pangilinan and Cojuangco, and we know they are 2 of the richest men in the Philippines.
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May 25, 2023, 07:49:27 AM
Some of the agendas that will be discussed are:

1) The possible return of Bay Area Dragons

- I like the idea of having foreign teams again in the PBA as that really brings much tougher competition in the league while giving chances to those low to mid-tier teams the good experience of dealing with a foreign team. I hope, if not conflict with the Dragon's schedule, they can get a chance to participate again in PBA.
They really have to allow the Bay Area Dragons to come back. This is also expanding the viewership of PBA and there's more hype if there's a guest team. AFAIK, there was even news before that the Dragons were already willing to allocate a lot of years of budget just to participate in PBA and IIRC which was 5-10 years of budget, CMIIW.

2) The home and away participation in the East Asia Super League (EASL)

- In a simple explanation, this means EASL games will be held in venues in all participating countries. Yes, teams have the chance to play with the support from the home crowd and on the other hand, also playing against an away crowd.
Is it the PBA that's going to shoulder this participation on EASL or it is the SBP/MVP group with the help of PSC? I don't know how things goes there but if this is what's going to happen, this will require a lot of budget for them since games will played on each participating countries.

3) Format of the season's two conferences

- Because of the PBA's adjustment to the World Basketball Events this year for Gilas, only 2 conferences can be pushed this Season 48, All-Filipino Cup, and still undecided for the import conference. I think it was Commissioners Cup when Bay Area Dragons played at the PBA therefore, maybe they can choose that conference again so the same height restrictions for imports will be applied to all teams if ever they will join again.

Please share your views about these, guys. Smiley
I like this when they're adjusting the schedule of PBA in order to give way to the FIBA world cup and other international basketball leagues that will require some of the players from the teams participating the league.
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May 25, 2023, 07:24:42 AM
There's a high probability that he will play as long as he is in good health. SMB needs his minutes on the court because he can provide valuable energy to the team. If they choose not to utilize him, it may be more beneficial to consider trading him.

There is no doubt that SMB will utilize him. While Romeo may not be in his prime, his experience and skills still make him deserving of earning minutes for the team. Too much experimentation by the coach has had its consequences, as we have witnessed. I believe it would be beneficial for SMB to revert to their old style, where Fajardo is the main focal point, and allocate more minutes to the veterans who have proven to be clutch during big games, including Romeo, of course.
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