2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 204.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on January 19, 2023, 08:14:54 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 19, 2023, 12:46:36 AM

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

Exactly, Fajardo is 33 years old, and I think that is still young. Most of the players that are traded are not in the center position, Look at Hugnatan and Reavis, they are already 40 years old or over, but they are still playing with the team, and we all know that Fajardo is better then them.

He is also injury prone now but at least when he comes back he can still deliver the numbers he used to deliver. Fajardo will definitely stay, they won championships with him, SMB will not throw away their precious player. They can trade CJ and keep Fajardo as whoever gets JMF will surely be a very good team, what if Ginebra will get JMF? How can you beat that team?

SMB and Ginebra will not go into such agreement, SMB have to choose JMF over the other just to make this competition more healthy and to avoid any issues with regards to being a sister company. JMF at his age is still a good player, injuries are prone to every players maybe it affects JMF but eventually he will recover and be better again. There are a lot of rumors about the possible trade with the other team, let's just wait for their official announcement with regards to this.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 19, 2023, 08:37:05 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on January 19, 2023, 08:14:54 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 19, 2023, 06:08:02 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 19, 2023, 12:46:36 AM

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

Exactly, Fajardo is 33 years old, and I think that is still young. Most of the players that are traded are not in the center position, Look at Hugnatan and Reavis, they are already 40 years old or over, but they are still playing with the team, and we all know that Fajardo is better then them.

He is also injury prone now but at least when he comes back he can still deliver the numbers he used to deliver. Fajardo will definitely stay, they won championships with him, SMB will not throw away their precious player. They can trade CJ and keep Fajardo as whoever gets JMF will surely be a very good team, what if Ginebra will get JMF? How can you beat that team?

A triple tower who all have the offensive capability and will be guided by Scottie and Tenyente or Pringles, I can say that Gin kings can compete and represent the country to an international league if they will acquire JMF. But, that chance is slim even these two teams are sister teams they have pride to compete and they are always doing it in every season PBA offer.

They are always there to compete and to prove that they deserve to win a title.

It's different in the international league because mostly the bigs know how to shoot from the outside, and so far Fajardo has no good range outside. Also, if we noticed in international games, Fajardo is not fully used, because their opponents love to run and they cannot match the speed if they keep Fajardo with heavy minutes.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on January 19, 2023, 08:14:54 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 19, 2023, 06:08:02 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 19, 2023, 12:46:36 AM

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

Exactly, Fajardo is 33 years old, and I think that is still young. Most of the players that are traded are not in the center position, Look at Hugnatan and Reavis, they are already 40 years old or over, but they are still playing with the team, and we all know that Fajardo is better then them.

He is also injury prone now but at least when he comes back he can still deliver the numbers he used to deliver. Fajardo will definitely stay, they won championships with him, SMB will not throw away their precious player. They can trade CJ and keep Fajardo as whoever gets JMF will surely be a very good team, what if Ginebra will get JMF? How can you beat that team?

A triple tower who all have the offensive capability and will be guided by Scottie and Tenyente or Pringles, I can say that Gin kings can compete and represent the country to an international league if they will acquire JMF. But, that chance is slim even these two teams are sister teams they have pride to compete and they are always doing it in every season PBA offer.

They are always there to compete and to prove that they deserve to win a title.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 19, 2023, 06:08:02 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 19, 2023, 12:46:36 AM

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

Exactly, Fajardo is 33 years old, and I think that is still young. Most of the players that are traded are not in the center position, Look at Hugnatan and Reavis, they are already 40 years old or over, but they are still playing with the team, and we all know that Fajardo is better then them.

Yes yes I agree with this one.
It seems like, the big players that we have in the PBA have a long career.

33 years old is considered prime years still, but near to his post-prime years already but nevertheless, I'm thinking that they will let Fajardo stay even though he is old already like what Magnolia did to Reavis and what Ginebra did to Devance. I'm just thinking that at least only this time, they will be loyal to Fajardo just because of how impactful he is with the team and add also the achievements that he got with SMB.

Quote from: Yamifoud on January 19, 2023, 08:14:54 AM

They can trade CJ and keep Fajardo as whoever gets JMF will surely be a very good team, what if Ginebra will get JMF? How can you beat that team?

They might trade CJ, but I'm thinking they might make a team around CJ and Fajardo. CJ is only 29 years old and he can contribute to SMB for a long time still.
Now with regards to Ginebra getting JMF, I'm not thinking that this will happen. I mean I don't see any reason why SMB will trade him to Ginebra.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 19, 2023, 06:08:02 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 19, 2023, 12:46:36 AM

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

Exactly, Fajardo is 33 years old, and I think that is still young. Most of the players that are traded are not in the center position, Look at Hugnatan and Reavis, they are already 40 years old or over, but they are still playing with the team, and we all know that Fajardo is better then them.

He is also injury prone now but at least when he comes back he can still deliver the numbers he used to deliver. Fajardo will definitely stay, they won championships with him, SMB will not throw away their precious player. They can trade CJ and keep Fajardo as whoever gets JMF will surely be a very good team, what if Ginebra will get JMF? How can you beat that team?

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 19, 2023, 12:46:36 AM

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

Exactly, Fajardo is 33 years old, and I think that is still young. Most of the players that are traded are not in the center position, Look at Hugnatan and Reavis, they are already 40 years old or over, but they are still playing with the team, and we all know that Fajardo is better then them.

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Quote from: harizen on January 18, 2023, 06:25:39 PM

Gilas' next window will be on February 25 and 28 against Lebanon and Jordan respectively.

Where do we see the ticket sales for this match? And is any of you going to watch any of these series? I think I'll invite my brother and pops on watching the 28 of Feb game since it's going to be Tuesday and it's not going to be that hectic at all unless my leave is granted.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 18, 2023, 06:59:47 AM

Lol. What the hell is happening with SMB management even Terrence Romeo is included in the trade rumors. I'd rather change the Coach than trade these key players. If this will happen, I'm not surprised if Fajardo will be traded as well after a few more years without getting a championship. They even traded Cabagnot and Arwind Santos before, so they will do the same. As usual, trades will always be approved, under the table?

You surprised?

They've been doing this for a long time already. They will get young players and when they got old, regardless of their achievement and what they did to the team, they will trade them to another team (specifically in those farm teams) to get younger players. The cycle keeps going on and on and on and the management hasn't been doing anything to stop it.

Ross, Lassiter, Romeo, and Enciso. All of them have impacts to the team especially Ross and Lassiter as they are part of the so-called "Death 5". I didn't surprised that they put the 2 of them in the trading block since they are old already. Romeo is injured in most of his time with SMB and Enciso is the one I'm surprised because he is in the SMB for a short time only, but who knows. It's still only rumors and rumors will stay as rumors until it happen, right? Like you said, they even traded Cabagnot and Santos that has a big achievement towards SMB's success so no surprised for me that they put Ross and Lassiter as well.

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

This is no surprise with most of the teams, even if you give them loyalty, they won't be loyal to you. And that's why when B League have offered a good contract to Romeo he should have took the opportunity instead of being vocal of his loyalty to the team.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 18, 2023, 06:59:47 AM

Lol. What the hell is happening with SMB management even Terrence Romeo is included in the trade rumors. I'd rather change the Coach than trade these key players. If this will happen, I'm not surprised if Fajardo will be traded as well after a few more years without getting a championship. They even traded Cabagnot and Arwind Santos before, so they will do the same. As usual, trades will always be approved, under the table?

You surprised?

They've been doing this for a long time already. They will get young players and when they got old, regardless of their achievement and what they did to the team, they will trade them to another team (specifically in those farm teams) to get younger players. The cycle keeps going on and on and on and the management hasn't been doing anything to stop it.

Ross, Lassiter, Romeo, and Enciso. All of them have impacts to the team especially Ross and Lassiter as they are part of the so-called "Death 5". I didn't surprised that they put the 2 of them in the trading block since they are old already. Romeo is injured in most of his time with SMB and Enciso is the one I'm surprised because he is in the SMB for a short time only, but who knows. It's still only rumors and rumors will stay as rumors until it happen, right? Like you said, they even traded Cabagnot and Santos that has a big achievement towards SMB's success so no surprised for me that they put Ross and Lassiter as well.

Fajardo? As long as he is dominant, they will not trade him. Under the table? There is a high chance that it is happening, but we don't have any evidences and the only thing that we have is theories.

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Here are the imports for the upcoming Governor's cup.

https://pba.ph/news/brownlee-still-yardstick-for-governors-cup-imports

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The returning imports aside from Brownlee are

KJ McDaniels (Meralco),
Shawn Glover (Blackwater),
Du'Vaughn Maxwell (Phoenix),
Michael Qualls (Rain or Shine), and
Cameron Clark (San Miguel).

Who do you think will win the best import award, and what team will win the championship.

@OP, kindly put a poll so we can vote.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 18, 2023, 06:52:54 PM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 18, 2023, 06:59:47 AM

Lol. What the hell is happening with SMB management even Terrence Romeo is included in the trade rumors. I'd rather change the Coach than trade these key players. If this will happen, I'm not surprised if Fajardo will be traded as well after a few more years without getting a championship. They even traded Cabagnot and Arwind Santos before, so they will do the same. As usual, trades will always be approved, under the table?

Alex Cabagnot and Arwind aren't in the same league and status as June Mar Fajardo in terms of being San Miguel Beermen. The Kraken is in no way will be traded even at his post-prime performance since he's already a Franchise Player and the achievement he brings to the SMB are all spectacular.

Romeo is not even an original Beermen and is now injury-prone therefore, he's always possible to be put on the team's trading list.

About changing the coach, although others are in favor of that for a long time already, sorry but Coach Leo Austria does have something magical stuff on him why he remains as their coach. Cheesy

They had reached the semi finals last conference, if they didn't face the Bay Area in the semi, they might likely be in the Finals. It could be Gineba vs SMB which I believe is a good match up, the only advantage is that Ginebra had a good import while SMB has an inconsistent one.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 18, 2023, 06:59:47 AM

Lol. What the hell is happening with SMB management even Terrence Romeo is included in the trade rumors. I'd rather change the Coach than trade these key players. If this will happen, I'm not surprised if Fajardo will be traded as well after a few more years without getting a championship. They even traded Cabagnot and Arwind Santos before, so they will do the same. As usual, trades will always be approved, under the table?

Alex Cabagnot and Arwind aren't in the same league and status as June Mar Fajardo in terms of being San Miguel Beermen. The Kraken is in no way will be traded even at his post-prime performance since he's already a Franchise Player and the achievement he brings to the SMB are all spectacular.

Romeo is not even an original Beermen and is now injury-prone therefore, he's always possible to be put on the team's trading list.

About changing the coach, although others are in favor of that for a long time already, sorry but Coach Leo Austria does have something magical stuff on him why he remains as their coach. Cheesy

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 18, 2023, 05:50:29 AM

On the last note, if JC will choose to play, then JBL will give the space for him, right? Like what you mentioned, it's only a backup purpose in case JC is not available due to other schedules that may prevent him from playing in FIBA.

That's correct. If Jordan Clarkson is not suitable to play on Gilas specifically in the World Cup, Justin Brownlee is the backup. From now on though, expect Justin Brownlee to be the always face we will see in Gilas as its naturalized player on other basketball events such as Asian games, SEA games, etc.

It's only the FIBA qualifying games that Clarkson won't make it to because of the current NBA season but in the FIBA World Cup, NBA is in the off-season so we can expect that Clarkson might be available.

Gilas' next window will be on February 25 and 28 against Lebanon and Jordan respectively.

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Mirakal should change the title from 2020 to 2023. The games are back on Sunday and it's a jampack game in the Philsports Arena.
4:30 pm ~ Meralco vs ROS
6:45 pm ~ Converge vs Northport

I've read the news that Myles Powell is trying to be scouted by the Converge, anyone who knows what's the development with that?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 18, 2023, 08:04:52 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 18, 2023, 07:50:07 AM

I don't think they will trade Fajardo, he is still playing. They have to remember that JMF was the one brining plenty of championships for the team, trading him is an insult especially if he can still produce close to what he can during his prime or when he is not prone to injury yet.

You are right, SMB Beermen will not trade Fajardo for now because he is still usable and still got 2 to 3 years of playing competitively as the man in the middle for them. There are rumors circulating in the social media that there may be changes in the coaching staff so let's wait for this to explode but i find it hard to believe since coach Austria is a very likeable coach.

For the meantime JMF is safe for any trade within 2-3 years but we know injury already hitting him and his age as well, SMB is not a fan of keeping their franchise player, Remember both Danny I and Danny S, players who bring pride to this team for a long time, and adding to that are Santos and Cabagnot, after some years we will hear rumors about JMF unless he will retire first before the trade.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 18, 2023, 07:50:07 AM

Maybe Romeo will be traded because of the injury problem, certainly there are some teams who would be interested on him.

Romeo for Bolick, this is the trade that has been floating around for some time now.

Not sure about that, but Terrence doesn't have any option if SMB will trade him his injury really hurt his career and nothing that he can control if the management decides to let him go.

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