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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 31, 2021, 06:06:32 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on December 31, 2021, 04:39:09 PM

PBA are not open to that because they see this as a disadvantage for them, looks like they don’t want people to panic that much about the injury but of course we can’t stop anyone from making such speculation. Nevertheless, maybe we should focus more now on the players that are already playing, this can help you to analyze well on which team to place your bet, don’t focus much on those injuries those are part of the game I believe.

Not knowing who's gonna play or not is a big disadvantage for us sports bettors and frustrating to a basketball fan that wants to watch the PBA live as may be disappointed being in the arena but not seeing the players they wants to watch as they are out because of injury, that is why they have to be transparent with player's injury IMO.

With NCR reverted back to alert level 3, anyone knows what changes the PBA would make to continue this season?

This is alarming TBH and this is happening very quick that there is a chance that the hospitals might not react fast enough to lessen the cases.
I mean researchers already said that Omicron has a faster spreading rate than Delta and we saw what Delta Variant did - a peak of 20,000 cases daily. Add more the fact that the immune protection of the person getting vaccinated decreases if they got the Omicron variant and only increases by booster shots.

I'm thinking that they might enter the bubble again (hope not). Best scenario is that they will decrease the capacity the arena accepts and they will still continue what they are doing. They might become stricter and those only with booster shots are the ones who can enter the arena but this is in the future since the number of people who got booster shots right now is very low still and most of them are health workers. Hope this quick surge of cases and the alert level 3 of the NCR will not affect the PBA.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 31, 2021, 06:06:32 PM

With NCR reverted back to alert level 3, anyone knows what changes the PBA would make to continue this season?

We'll see it then. It's just a fresh announcement from the government and we have to wait if there will be changes about the rule of having live audience per game. I think that they will still continue to allow it as long as you're inside the NCR. IMO, it's like another bubble that only people and fans from NCR are allowed to watch the games. Honestly, people don't really care if we're alert 1 or 2 or 3 or more, these classifications seems to have not that much of change from one and the other. People are still flocking from establishments and those prohibitions aren't being followed.

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 31, 2021, 04:39:09 PM

PBA are not open to that because they see this as a disadvantage for them, looks like they don’t want people to panic that much about the injury but of course we can’t stop anyone from making such speculation. Nevertheless, maybe we should focus more now on the players that are already playing, this can help you to analyze well on which team to place your bet, don’t focus much on those injuries those are part of the game I believe.

Not knowing who's gonna play or not is a big disadvantage for us sports bettors and frustrating to a basketball fan that wants to watch the PBA live as may be disappointed being in the arena but not seeing the players they wants to watch as they are out because of injury, that is why they have to be transparent with player's injury IMO.

With NCR reverted back to alert level 3, anyone knows what changes the PBA would make to continue this season?

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That's true, I'll also take care of that relationship instead of playing for the rival company of my partner. I wouldn't be putting that at risk and he just did the right thing. I thought before that there's no conflict when he's announced of playing in MPBL but too late to understand the situation that he's in. Well, a false hope but understandable why he's not going to play for the MPBL. We can still see him around but not as a player anymore but wishing him the best in life and success with his ventures.

Long-term relationship that will secure your future and your family's future, playing for some years and earn some decent amount is not worthy compared to term business partnerships. I agree with your rival company will benefits if ever Ping will pursue playing again, and beside it's not hard for Magnolia to resign Ping if he really wanted to play.

Ping just chooses the right one for him and for his business, better than playing again. Grin

Well, having business is really a good way to retire in the league and if you're given an opportunity just like Mark and other players that have ended up with a good term and relationship with their team, that's the best deal that they can ever have. It's not just about the ball game but the life that they've committed to the team and franchise. So, the franchise have taken care of them and their retirement.

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 31, 2021, 04:22:13 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on December 31, 2021, 03:29:41 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on December 31, 2021, 12:36:51 PM

The article was posted on Facebook and many netizens disagree with the author as he was called a biased author before.

I don't get those people. It's easy to give an update about an injury. Why take it secretly? All PBA players are public figures therefore they will have the same status as a true personality.

Giving injury status should not be harmful to any parties so I don't get why the information was kept secret at some point.

If only PBA is transparent, but they are not, and also, we don't have a reliable news outlet to check on the current status of a certain player that's why it's hard to monitor and determine the real status of a player when he is not available to play. As long as theres' no official announcement, everything we read online from different writers could only be a speculation, we need to filter it and get only those that we think is making sense.

People just love to make some interesting speculation, some would come true while some will not, that's normal nowadays. In terms of updates, yes, the PBA is not so updated with the injury status of their players unlike the NBA, that's something they need to improve as information like that is very vital specially for the gamblers.

PBA are not open to that because they see this as a disadvantage for them, looks like they don’t want people to panic that much about the injury but of course we can’t stop anyone from making such speculation. Nevertheless, maybe we should focus more now on the players that are already playing, this can help you to analyze well on which team to place your bet, don’t focus much on those injuries those are part of the game I believe.

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Quote from: Vaculin on December 31, 2021, 03:29:41 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on December 31, 2021, 12:36:51 PM

The article was posted on Facebook and many netizens disagree with the author as he was called a biased author before.

I don't get those people. It's easy to give an update about an injury. Why take it secretly? All PBA players are public figures therefore they will have the same status as a true personality.

Giving injury status should not be harmful to any parties so I don't get why the information was kept secret at some point.

If only PBA is transparent, but they are not, and also, we don't have a reliable news outlet to check on the current status of a certain player that's why it's hard to monitor and determine the real status of a player when he is not available to play. As long as theres' no official announcement, everything we read online from different writers could only be a speculation, we need to filter it and get only those that we think is making sense.

People just love to make some interesting speculation, some would come true while some will not, that's normal nowadays. In terms of updates, yes, the PBA is not so updated with the injury status of their players unlike the NBA, that's something they need to improve as information like that is very vital specially for the gamblers.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 31, 2021, 12:36:51 PM

The article was posted on Facebook and many netizens disagree with the author as he was called a biased author before.

I don't get those people. It's easy to give an update about an injury. Why take it secretly? All PBA players are public figures therefore they will have the same status as a true personality.

Giving injury status should not be harmful to any parties so I don't get why the information was kept secret at some point.

If only PBA is transparent, but they are not, and also, we don't have a reliable news outlet to check on the current status of a certain player that's why it's hard to monitor and determine the real status of a player when he is not available to play. As long as theres' no official announcement, everything we read online from different writers could only be a speculation, we need to filter it and get only those that we think is making sense.

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The article was posted on Facebook and many netizens disagree with the author as he was called a biased author before.

I don't get those people. It's easy to give an update about an injury. Why take it secretly? All PBA players are public figures therefore they will have the same status as a true personality.

Giving injury status should not be harmful to any parties so I don't get why the information was kept secret at some point.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 30, 2021, 09:49:38 AM

BTW, is pringle injured? ----did not watch their last game, so I have no idea until I read the article----

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-can-t-ginebra-be-transparent-with-stanley-pringle-injury-a2244-20211230?ref=home_featured_big

Yes, he is injured. If you remember, those 5 Ginebra injured players are sharing pictures of them watching Ginebra games.

But I like the article you have shared and the author of it makes sense. Pringle is now out for a while but still, no clear medical status was given to the public until just recently, as mentioned in the article, the supposed ACL wasn't the real case. Why does it take too long?

The author also pointed out that the public has the right to know if Pringle is healthy or not.

The public deserves to know the status of Pringle and all the others injured especially now that the audience is allowed in the arena.

If it wasn't a case of an ACL injury then it could be something else, maybe Pringle wanted out of Ginebra as he received an offer from the Japan B-Leauge, hehehe.

Like what the author has said in his article, Ginebra has taken a credibility hit with this issue of transparency but in fairness to Ginebra it is not only them doing this, I think the whole of the PBA is not transparent with regards to this issue and they should be questioned by the media on why they are mum when the public deserves to know the truth.

Your speculation has a point, we cannot deny the possibility that he might be in contact with the B league who could be interested in him. Pringle will certainly get a good contract because he is one of the best players in the PBA if Romeo was offered huge money, for sure his past buddy will not be exempted as Pringle as is good as Romeo or even better.

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 03:21:11 PM

Quote from: mirakal on December 30, 2021, 09:49:38 AM

BTW, is pringle injured? ----did not watch their last game, so I have no idea until I read the article----

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-can-t-ginebra-be-transparent-with-stanley-pringle-injury-a2244-20211230?ref=home_featured_big

Yes, he is injured. If you remember, those 5 Ginebra injured players are sharing pictures of them watching Ginebra games.

But I like the article you have shared and the author of it makes sense. Pringle is now out for a while but still, no clear medical status was given to the public until just recently, as mentioned in the article, the supposed ACL wasn't the real case. Why does it take too long?

The author also pointed out that the public has the right to know if Pringle is healthy or not.

The public deserves to know the status of Pringle and all the others injured especially now that the audience is allowed in the arena.

If it wasn't a case of an ACL injury then it could be something else, maybe Pringle wanted out of Ginebra as he received an offer from the Japan B-Leauge, hehehe.

Like what the author has said in his article, Ginebra has taken a credibility hit with this issue of transparency but in fairness to Ginebra it is not only them doing this, I think the whole of the PBA is not transparent with regards to this issue and they should be questioned by the media on why they are mum when the public deserves to know the truth.

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Quote from: goaldigger on December 30, 2021, 03:39:54 PM

A lot of players of Ginebra is injured and they are cleared about this one though no update yet about the real status of their players, maybe they are too busy dealing with the governors cup and I have to agree that public deserve to know this especially if you are a fan on that team, let’s wait for their comments regarding this article.

The activity of Ginebra at this conference should not be a reason for their outdated updates. There are supposed to be in charge of giving updates. This is the first time I saw someone notice that delay and no clear updates of a team regarding their injured players. They are also not giving some updates about the ETA of the return of that involved players. Fans paid for tickets expecting someone to see them. They need to know those kinds of updates.

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Quote from: harizen on December 30, 2021, 03:21:11 PM

Quote from: mirakal on December 30, 2021, 09:49:38 AM

BTW, is pringle injured? ----did not watch their last game, so I have no idea until I read the article----

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-can-t-ginebra-be-transparent-with-stanley-pringle-injury-a2244-20211230?ref=home_featured_big

Yes, he is injured. If you remember, those 5 Ginebra injured players are sharing pictures of them watching Ginebra games.

But I like the article you have shared and the author of it makes sense. Pringle is now out for a while but still, no clear medical status was given to the public until just recently, as mentioned in the article, the supposed ACL wasn't the real case. Why does it take too long?

The author also pointed out that the public has the right to know if Pringle is healthy or not.

A lot of players of Ginebra is injured and they are cleared about this one though no update yet about the real status of their players, maybe they are too busy dealing with the governors cup and I have to agree that public deserve to know this especially if you are a fan on that team, let’s wait for their comments regarding this article.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 30, 2021, 09:49:38 AM

BTW, is pringle injured? ----did not watch their last game, so I have no idea until I read the article----

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-can-t-ginebra-be-transparent-with-stanley-pringle-injury-a2244-20211230?ref=home_featured_big

Yes, he is injured. If you remember, those 5 Ginebra injured players are sharing pictures of them watching Ginebra games.

But I like the article you have shared and the author of it makes sense. Pringle is now out for a while but still, no clear medical status was given to the public until just recently, as mentioned in the article, the supposed ACL wasn't the real case. Why does it take too long?

The author also pointed out that the public has the right to know if Pringle is healthy or not.

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Quote from: blockman on December 30, 2021, 12:05:23 PM

That's true, I'll also take care of that relationship instead of playing for the rival company of my partner. I wouldn't be putting that at risk and he just did the right thing. I thought before that there's no conflict when he's announced of playing in MPBL but too late to understand the situation that he's in. Well, a false hope but understandable why he's not going to play for the MPBL. We can still see him around but not as a player anymore but wishing him the best in life and success with his ventures.

Long-term relationship that will secure your future and your family's future, playing for some years and earn some decent amount is not worthy compared to term business partnerships. I agree with your rival company will benefits if ever Ping will pursue playing again, and beside it's not hard for Magnolia to resign Ping if he really wanted to play.

Ping just chooses the right one for him and for his business, better than playing again. Grin

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 29, 2021, 11:45:51 PM

Quote from: blockman on December 29, 2021, 06:13:28 PM

Probably he did as he has a contract and he has been called by the company that he has a bind with and shouldn't go against with their terms. I didn't know that he has bind contract with Magnolia as said in the past posts, it seems that these great PBA players were given another opportunity by their team if they ended up good with them.
So it's not just all about PBA but after it, there's a livelihood that they're given for which they can still have their contact and connection to the management of the team where they've retired.

Just how "The Captain" ends well, still part of the franchise after retiring his jersey not alone with the team franchise but also with his business, not sure but as far as I remember he owns the franchise of Magnolia's Cheick N' Juicy and I see that this also the same conflict between Pingris and MPBL, Choks-to-go the major business rival was the major partner of MPBL, if Ping will play wearing any jersey inside MPBL he will be force to wear and advertise Choks-to-go under his jersey.

Not good for his new venture after retirement. Poultry business is one of the best money making if you are aiming for long-term security

it's better to continue a good relationship with SMB corp. Wink

That's true, I'll also take care of that relationship instead of playing for the rival company of my partner. I wouldn't be putting that at risk and he just did the right thing. I thought before that there's no conflict when he's announced of playing in MPBL but too late to understand the situation that he's in. Well, a false hope but understandable why he's not going to play for the MPBL. We can still see him around but not as a player anymore but wishing him the best in life and success with his ventures.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 30, 2021, 09:21:31 AM

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 30, 2021, 04:27:19 AM

Blatche should just wait for the Commissioners Cup and apply as an import.

The best thing to do and I'm sure he'll not dominate as he is not getting any younger.

I think he is still young, at 35 years old, I'm sure he can still play well as a Center.
Other centers maybe so reliant on their rebounding skills and dominance inside, but Blatche does more than that because he is also a great 3 point shooter.

I'll be checking on the update of the Commissioner's statement, and see if this import can really play in the Governor's Cup.

That's still young but he is not anymore at his peak, well, most imports are not on their peak anymore, otherwise, they'll be playing in bigger leagues for betting paycheck. Let's just wait for the update on these rumors, but if PBA will give him a chance, for sure the other naturalized player will also try his luck.

BTW, is pringle injured? ----did not watch their last game, so I have no idea until I read the article----

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-can-t-ginebra-be-transparent-with-stanley-pringle-injury-a2244-20211230?ref=home_featured_big

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 30, 2021, 07:59:29 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on December 30, 2021, 04:27:19 AM

Blatche should just wait for the Commissioners Cup and apply as an import.

The best thing to do and I'm sure he'll not dominate as he is not getting any younger.

I think he is still young, at 35 years old, I'm sure he can still play well as a Center.
Other centers maybe so reliant on their rebounding skills and dominance inside, but Blatche does more than that because he is also a great 3 point shooter.

I'll be checking on the update of the Commissioner's statement, and see if this import can really play in the Governor's Cup.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 30, 2021, 04:27:19 AM

Speaking of naturalized players' concern with PBA as Blatche seems interested to play, the PBA Chief Marcial now gave his side regarding that.

Naturalized players might get a chance in PBA, but not soon–Willie Marcial

The reason is so simple and it makes sense, "it would tilt the balance of power in a huge way".

The explanation seems to be saying that the chance is very low, and it's not gonna happen.
It could be similar to the statement of Coach Tab Baldwin that one import is a mistake, he wants at least two but PBA does not find the statement helpful.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-single-import-conferences-a-big-mistake-says-tab-baldwin-a2437-20200612

Quote from: goinmerry on December 30, 2021, 04:27:19 AM

Blatche should just wait for the Commissioners Cup and apply as an import.

The best thing to do and I'm sure he'll not dominate as he is not getting any younger.

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Speaking of naturalized players' concern with PBA as Blatche seems interested to play, the PBA Chief Marcial now gave his side regarding that.

Naturalized players might get a chance in PBA, but not soon–Willie Marcial

The reason is so simple and it makes sense, "it would tilt the balance of power in a huge way".

Blatche should just wait for the Commissioners Cup and apply as an import.

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Maybe he realized in the end that he made a bad decision, he could have consulted his friends yet before making a decision to play so there's no news about it and it will not excite people to see him again playing. Or, maybe the Magnolia staff called him to stop him from playing, it's just my speculation but if someone valued his previous team especially that he played with them for a long period of time, that respect will always remain.

Probably he did as he has a contract and he has been called by the company that he has a bind with and shouldn't go against with their terms. I didn't know that he has bind contract with Magnolia as said in the past posts, it seems that these great PBA players were given another opportunity by their team if they ended up good with them.
So it's not just all about PBA but after it, there's a livelihood that they're given for which they can still have their contact and connection to the management of the team where they've retired.

Just how "The Captain" ends well, still part of the franchise after retiring his jersey not alone with the team franchise but also with his business, not sure but as far as I remember he owns the franchise of Magnolia's Cheick N' Juicy and I see that this also the same conflict between Pingris and MPBL, Choks-to-go the major business rival was the major partner of MPBL, if Ping will play wearing any jersey inside MPBL he will be force to wear and advertise Choks-to-go under his jersey.

Not good for his new venture after retirement. Poultry business is one of the best money making if you are aiming for long-term security

it's better to continue a good relationship with SMB corp. Wink

Just like Romeo, despite the good offers to play in the B-League, he still remains loyal to the SMB. I think star players are given good treatment with some good bonuses probably the reason why they are always loyal to their team and their management. That's the kind of security when you are under a big team, you can still continue your good relationship even if you retire and at the same time you'll still get some business opportunity.

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