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October 02, 2021, 05:56:26 AM
No odds yet from my favorite bookies as of this time, am interested to know how they look at the SMB vs TNT series, I mean who will be the underdog.

Does Sportsbet always offer outright betting for Philippine Basketball? In Stake, I never see they did it before.

Anyhow, the odds for Game 1 Semis are out now: (stake.com)

Meralco Bolts @ 1.82 vs. Magnolia HotShots @ 1.89
San Miguel Beermen 1.8 vs TNT Katropa @ 1.82

We can conclude that bookies see these games having no underdog or favorites. Almost equal. Betting on Handicaps is the best option here for me.
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October 02, 2021, 05:05:50 AM
It got hyped because of the Ravena brothers but they didn't even explode yet even playing with great minutes.

The stream link shared was shut down. Maybe it reached the 100,000 limit viewers. It's halftime now.

Just hype  Grin, that's what it is all about for the Ravena brothers. I don't consider them explosive players that could dominate a professional basketball leauge (pardon me Ravena bros fans) and I doubt the motive of the teams that pick them, maybe for gate attendance as there are a number of Filipino fans living in that area.

Speaking of Japan B-league, Kobe Paras had a hot pro debut scoring 25 points in 33 minutes of play in a losing effort. Let's wait for the second game if he will still register that kind of number. So far he was the only Filipino who had an impressive debut.


Back to PBA, I thought there's a game today. Didn't realize tomorrow is the start of the Semi-Finals.

No odds yet from my favorite bookies as of this time, am interested to know how they look at the SMB vs TNT series, I mean who will be the underdog.
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October 02, 2021, 04:16:08 AM

It got hyped because of the Ravena brothers but they didn't even explode yet even playing with great minutes.

The stream link shared was shut down. Maybe it reached the 100,000 limit viewers. It's halftime now.

Back to PBA, I thought there's a game today. Didn't realize tomorrow is the start of the Semi-Finals.
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October 02, 2021, 04:03:30 AM

Just sharing the Facebook Livestream of a match between Shiga LakeStars and San-EN Neo Phoenix, the team of PH cagers and brothers, Kiefer and Thirdy Ravena respectively. I have noticed that there are lots of nationalities per team. The league is no anymore pure Japan cagers compare to before.

Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/pusopilipinas/videos/575355227140015/
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October 01, 2021, 06:27:57 PM
I guess no one is willing to take my bet, lol.

there's no handicap in the series, it's all even because TNT is also a good team and I enjoyed watching them, it's just that I have to stay loyal with my favorite team in the PBA and if I lose, no regret at all.

You can only found a match against a loyal TNT fan too. For a gambler, it's hard to bet against SMB in a series match unless you will be open to handicap. And from what I noticed on this thread, everyone is an SMB fan. Cheesy

JuneMar Fajardo is giving a big impact too. Maybe if Fajardo is out, someone will accept your bet. Even without JuneMar, because you are loyal to the SMB team, you will still bet for them.
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October 01, 2021, 06:09:54 PM
There is confusion to me. Did you guys saw already the advertisement for Ravena vs Ravena matchup in Japan B-League? The matchup will be today (Saturday).

My question is, Kiefer Ravena commits he will play for NLEX. If he's there against Meralco, they have a chance to win. But according to Yeng Guiao, if they were able to pass Meralco, Kiefer can play. But what if they really won against Meralco? Kiefer will now skip games on Japan B-League instead which is scheduled today.
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October 01, 2021, 05:56:31 PM

Who knows, but it's not a guarantee just like what I've said all four are deserving, what if both Cojuangco or both Pangilinan wins their respective series, the ball is round and we don't have any accurate basis to say who's in the edge and who's the underdog?

If they will try to fix the game, that could probably happen. TNT has the best season so far in the PBA, they finish the conference with only 1 loses, they will not waste this opportunity to win, but to be honest, they have the toughest challenge also as they have the beat a healthy SMB team with JMF back already.

I still think that the SMB will win, but I would not be surprised if TNT will win in a close series.

I would agree that this is an almost even match-up with SMB up with a little advantage because of Junemar but it can be offset with the coaching brilliance of coach Chot Reyes.

With the history of both teams and coaches in a series, I would still put my money behind SMB considering that everybody on both teams is healthy. This is not what TNT wants (to meet SMB in the semis) but if ever they will take care of SMB here then they will be champions for sure.
It's easier for them if they will win against SMB, not an ideal series, but better to deal now and take care of the rest after. No doubt that the brilliant mind of coach Chot will be the advantage here. The rotation and is far better now compared to those previous coaches who handled this team before he comes back.

SMB if complete and healthy have that advantage, Fajardo and CJ Perez if both explode in this series, it would be tough match up for coach Chot, plus this line of SMB still have the veterans who are bind together and will compete up to the last buzzer.
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October 01, 2021, 05:34:17 PM
If they will try to fix the game, that could probably happen.

Disregard that part. If game-fixing will happen, it should have started during TNT vs BGSM. And with no live audience, it does not make sense to have that "bigayan" portion because there were no ticket sales. No advantage for the league if the series will be extended.

I guess no one is willing to take my bet, lol.

there's no handicap in the series, it's all even because TNT is also a good team and I enjoyed watching them, it's just that I have to stay loyal with my favorite team in the PBA and if I lose, no regret at all.

So last call, we still have few days probably, shoot me a PM.

Not with the current roster but people based on game history where SMB always winning at a Game series match. If you are aware of betting on a series match outside online gambling, there's a thing called the "+1" game. You can consider having that to somehow attract gamblers to bet on TNT.

To summarize, your options are:
 
a) TNT +1 against you. The bet will be 1:1, with no change of odds.
b) No + but odds will be, TNT @2 SMB @1.7-1.8

If you will choose A, I will accept the challenge. SMB is more dominant to me and I'm not a TNT fan after all so I need an advantage.
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October 01, 2021, 05:18:16 PM

Who knows, but it's not a guarantee just like what I've said all four are deserving, what if both Cojuangco or both Pangilinan wins their respective series, the ball is round and we don't have any accurate basis to say who's in the edge and who's the underdog?

If they will try to fix the game, that could probably happen. TNT has the best season so far in the PBA, they finish the conference with only 1 loses, they will not waste this opportunity to win, but to be honest, they have the toughest challenge also as they have the beat a healthy SMB team with JMF back already.

I still think that the SMB will win, but I would not be surprised if TNT will win in a close series.

I would agree that this is an almost even match-up with SMB up with a little advantage because of Junemar but it can be offset with the coaching brilliance of coach Chot Reyes.

With the history of both teams and coaches in a series, I would still put my money behind SMB considering that everybody on both teams is healthy. This is not what TNT wants (to meet SMB in the semis) but if ever they will take care of SMB here then they will be champions for sure.
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October 01, 2021, 03:47:40 PM

Who knows, but it's not a guarantee just like what I've said all four are deserving, what if both Cojuangco or both Pangilinan wins their respective series, the ball is round and we don't have any accurate basis to say who's in the edge and who's the underdog?

If they will try to fix the game, that could probably happen. TNT has the best season so far in the PBA, they finish the conference with only 1 loses, they will not waste this opportunity to win, but to be honest, they have the toughest challenge also as they have the beat a healthy SMB team with JMF back already.

I still think that the SMB will win, but I would not be surprised if TNT will win in a close series.
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October 01, 2021, 09:44:05 AM
So it's offical, we are now in the Semi Finals round.

Anjo Caram delivers big blows as Meralco sends NLEX packing

It will be;

Talk and Text vs San Miguel Beerman (best of 7)
Magnolia Hotspts vs Meralco Bolts (best of )

To make it short, it's Cojuangco vs Pangilinan.

So if we like to see real competition in the finals, one team from Cojuagco and Pangilinan should advance.

All 4 are all deserving to win the title, but only one will take the crown.

Sad but it's much better if TNT and SMB are the one who face in the finals, though they are going to face in the early stage and whoever wins the series will advance and play for the title.

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So if we like to see real competition in the finals, one team from Cojuagco and Pangilinan should advance.

Who knows, but it's not a guarantee just like what I've said all four are deserving, what if both Cojuangco or both Pangilinan wins their respective series, the ball is round and we don't have any accurate basis to say who's in the edge and who's the underdog?
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October 01, 2021, 08:45:54 AM
So it's offical, we are now in the Semi Finals round.

Anjo Caram delivers big blows as Meralco sends NLEX packing

It will be;

Talk and Text vs San Miguel Beerman (best of 7)
Magnolia Hotspts vs Meralco Bolts (best of )

To make it short, it's Cojuangco vs Pangilinan.

So if we like to see real competition in the finals, one team from Cojuagco and Pangilinan should advance.
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October 01, 2021, 08:16:02 AM
I guess no one is willing to take my bet, lol.

there's no handicap in the series, it's all even because TNT is also a good team and I enjoyed watching them, it's just that I have to stay loyal with my favorite team in the PBA and if I lose, no regret at all.
No one would take it for now because SMB is back on the winning track, and mostly the problem with TNT is their weakness during the playoffs.
I know it's best of 7 games, but is TNT experienced enough to beat the SMB who have been dominating the All Filipino cup?

So last call, we still have few days probably, shoot me a PM.
Good luck on finding someone who would accept your bet mate,.. maybe make it 1.80 for SMB vs 2.00 for TNT in a series, someone might take a bite.
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October 01, 2021, 07:44:29 AM
I guess no one is willing to take my bet, lol.

there's no handicap in the series, it's all even because TNT is also a good team and I enjoyed watching them, it's just that I have to stay loyal with my favorite team in the PBA and if I lose, no regret at all.

So last call, we still have few days probably, shoot me a PM.
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October 01, 2021, 07:18:01 AM
Meralco should bounce back from a 1 point loss, it's their time now so they will not be eliminated.
In this conference Meralco was doing well, but NLEX is more remarkable as they improve even without Ravena.
I can still watch this game as it will start at 6:AM in our timezone, I also like to see how they will bounce back after a bad loss in the first game, and probably the game will still be low scoring game and Meralco will win, probably in single-digit only as NLEX is also doing well.

This is what you called "bigayan" as NLEX is a sister team of Meralco if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, they are a sister team as NLEX is own by Pangilinan who is also the owner of Meralco. The odds is still -4.5, that's too high for a team that they previously beat in the previous game, so most likely the odds are telling that Meralco would win this by a decent margin.

There is a line movement, Meralco Bolts now is up to -5.5 (https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches).
bisdak40 was lucky he was able to bet on the -4.5 lower by one point.

Anyway, if Bolts would really bounce back, I guess they will play harder and will not allow NLEX to get close in this game as they don't want to get eliminated. Oftana will be a marked man in this game as he hits the game-winner last game.

Another win by bisdak40, congrats blue, you guess it right, Bolts have even the series, and they won by 11 points, which means the spread is covered and you win. However, I think some of you here bet on the under which you might lose your bet as the total score is 183 which I'm sure the total (over/under) is lower than that.
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October 01, 2021, 02:40:00 AM
Meralco should bounce back from a 1 point loss, it's their time now so they will not be eliminated.
In this conference Meralco was doing well, but NLEX is more remarkable as they improve even without Ravena.
I can still watch this game as it will start at 6:AM in our timezone, I also like to see how they will bounce back after a bad loss in the first game, and probably the game will still be low scoring game and Meralco will win, probably in single-digit only as NLEX is also doing well.

This is what you called "bigayan" as NLEX is a sister team of Meralco if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, they are a sister team as NLEX is own by Pangilinan who is also the owner of Meralco. The odds is still -4.5, that's too high for a team that they previously beat in the previous game, so most likely the odds are telling that Meralco would win this by a decent margin.

There is a line movement, Meralco Bolts now is up to -5.5 (https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches).
bisdak40 was lucky he was able to bet on the -4.5 lower by one point.

Anyway, if Bolts would really bounce back, I guess they will play harder and will not allow NLEX to get close in this game as they don't want to get eliminated. Oftana will be a marked man in this game as he hits the game-winner last game.
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October 01, 2021, 02:21:53 AM
Meralco should bounce back from a 1 point loss, it's their time now so they will not be eliminated.
In this conference Meralco was doing well, but NLEX is more remarkable as they improve even without Ravena.
I can still watch this game as it will start at 6:AM in our timezone, I also like to see how they will bounce back after a bad loss in the first game, and probably the game will still be low scoring game and Meralco will win, probably in single-digit only as NLEX is also doing well.

This is what you called "bigayan" as NLEX is a sister team of Meralco if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, they are a sister team as NLEX is own by Pangilinan who is also the owner of Meralco. The odds is still -4.5, that's too high for a team that they previously beat in the previous game, so most likely the odds are telling that Meralco would win this by a decent margin.
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October 01, 2021, 01:14:28 AM
Meralco should bounce back from a 1 point loss, it's their time now so they will not be eliminated.
In this conference Meralco was doing well, but NLEX is more remarkable as they improve even without Ravena.
I can still watch this game as it will start at 6:AM in our timezone, I also like to see how they will bounce back after a bad loss in the first game, and probably the game will still be low scoring game and Meralco will win, probably in single-digit only as NLEX is also doing well.

This is what you called "bigayan" as NLEX is a sister team of Meralco if I'm not mistaken.
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October 01, 2021, 12:36:42 AM
Good for us as best of 7 games means there will be more excitement and I'm hoping to see a game 7 between the TNT and SMB.

That's good that it's a best of 7 series. Maybe we can again set up a series of betting here as these two teams really match up against each other. Anyone here likes to make a series bet? I'm willing to risk at least 0.003 BTC for the series game, and my bet is SMB to win the series.

Just send me a PM or post it here.

What's the handicap that you will be giving bro? SMB is going to be a huge favorite in this series IMO as they have all the tools to capture the AFC trophy so I think bookies will just let you win half of your bet hehe.
I don't think they will be the heavy favorites in the series, I think a slight favorite only but IMO, the odds will change based on the result of game 1.
No betting odds for series here unlike the NBA, but if we do some betting, then probably that would work if you guys will agree.

Kidding aside, I'm also betting for SMB here so if there's an interested bettor for TNT you can post here as i'm also risking my 0.004 BTC for the Beermen.

We still have a ballgame today between sister teams, NLEX and Meralco. Could the former pull an upset again?

My bet Meralco -4.5 @1.89 boosted, their backs are against the wall so they will win this one, they are sisters remember  Grin.

Meralco should bounce back from a 1 point loss, it's their time now so they will not be eliminated.
In this conference Meralco was doing well, but NLEX is more remarkable as they improve even without Ravena.
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October 01, 2021, 12:22:11 AM
I don't know if there's any team now that could stop the guards of the SMB, they have a lot of options and they will not worry anymore since JFM is always there to grab the offensive rebound using his size advantage.

Magnolia and TNT can handle SMB.

Calvin Abueva is playing like a beast. If by chance, they will meet against SMB, Abueva can handle CJ Perez who is still new to pressured games. TNT's Mickey Williams can also match CJ Perez or Jayson Castro can switch.

Not looking for SMB as the team to beat now. TNT will win against them. Cheesy

TNT has the chance to beat the SMB now because they have improved a lot this time, and with a new coach, probably a strategy to beat the SMB is already in the plan. However, is there someone in the TNT lineup who could stop or minimize the production of Fajardo? I know he is not 100% yet but JMF always gives his best especially in this time of the playoffs.
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