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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 27, 2021, 04:38:44 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on August 27, 2021, 04:20:44 PM

Good news for SMB fans.

Terrence Romeo on pace for comeback in Pampanga games

Seeing Romeo playing with a healthy SMB, makes me believe that they might win the championship this conference. They have a lot of scorers and they are good in defense as well, CJ Perez and Romeo if they will play with good chemistry, I think they can carry the SMB to the championship, of course with the help of JMF.

Indeed it's good news, but what would make it better if he will not be injured again and he will finish the conference playing like he usually does in the past. Terrence Romeo is one of my favorite PBA players due to his style and moves on the court, and he impressed the fans more when he joined the FIBA world and showed his talent despite his size, so I would always love to see him play again.

SMB is a superteam, there's no doubt they will win this conference despite they are not at the top of the standing. Magnolia and TNT seemed to have improve already, but once they are in the elimination round, they will be challenged and a team that has enough experience and pride will win and that is the SMB.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 27, 2021, 04:20:44 PM

Good news for SMB fans.

Terrence Romeo on pace for comeback in Pampanga games

Seeing Romeo playing with a healthy SMB, makes me believe that they might win the championship this conference. They have a lot of scorers and they are good in defense as well, CJ Perez and Romeo if they will play with good chemistry, I think they can carry the SMB to the championship, of course with the help of JMF.

Indeed it's good news, but what would make it better if he will not be injured again and he will finish the conference playing like he usually does in the past. Terrence Romeo is one of my favorite PBA players due to his style and moves on the court, and he impressed the fans more when he joined the FIBA world and showed his talent despite his size, so I would always love to see him play again.

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Good news for SMB fans.

Terrence Romeo on pace for comeback in Pampanga games

Seeing Romeo playing with a healthy SMB, makes me believe that they might win the championship this conference. They have a lot of scorers and they are good in defense as well, CJ Perez and Romeo if they will play with good chemistry, I think they can carry the SMB to the championship, of course with the help of JMF.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 27, 2021, 01:46:36 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 06:20:17 PM

I'm just thinking of the worse outcome that can happen when they let go this venue for their products because there are other leagues that if they jump in, for sure it's going to blow out and will also become popular. Wherever the players are, fans and customers will follow so these two tycoons will be jumping in for whatever they like if they see it's no longer profitable and beneficial for them. But yeah, this is far from happening and we can just think of the worst possible thing to come but right now, as long as the league continues, everything's good.

Just the same, as long as the league continues and these two business tycoons still taking part in the game will continue to bring entertainment to all the fans and viewers. All possibilities are there and indeed, if they both don't see any advantages to their business, they can easily switch to other leagues.

So far it's not what we are seeing and they are still enjoying whatever help the league is bringing to their businesses, and that's good for now since we will enjoy their help even in this time of pandemic season.

If they are not worried about the future of the PBA, I think announcing that they have incurred big losses during the last bubble does not help. I mean, it will not make the players confident of the future of the PBA since they know that one day it would affect their income while the pandemic is still here. As mentioned before, they'll find the opportunity to play abroad just like other Filipino superstars have done already, and more so now that the South Korea basketball league is also willing to accept Filipino players.

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Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 06:20:17 PM

I'm just thinking of the worse outcome that can happen when they let go this venue for their products because there are other leagues that if they jump in, for sure it's going to blow out and will also become popular. Wherever the players are, fans and customers will follow so these two tycoons will be jumping in for whatever they like if they see it's no longer profitable and beneficial for them. But yeah, this is far from happening and we can just think of the worst possible thing to come but right now, as long as the league continues, everything's good.

Just the same, as long as the league continues and these two business tycoons still taking part in the game will continue to bring entertainment to all the fans and viewers. All possibilities are there and indeed, if they both don't see any advantages to their business, they can easily switch to other leagues.

So far it's not what we are seeing and they are still enjoying whatever help the league is bringing to their businesses, and that's good for now since we will enjoy their help even in this time of pandemic season.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on August 27, 2021, 08:26:48 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 27, 2021, 04:52:40 AM

We already read that the league lost 70 Million with the bubble that they did last year. In the end, I believe that the Pangilinans and the Cojuangco's will not leave the league. They're businessmen and losses in a business is already normal for them. They are thinking long term and they believe that the league will recover once the pandemic has ended.

That's for sure, they'll keep the business as these two are the biggest businessman in the Philippines. They can advertise their product through the PBA, so it's stupid to stop it that they had already built through decades, it's not good for their reputation. They can always minimize the expenses if they want to just to ensure the league will continue to run and that includes reducing the salary of the players.

It's more easy to them to minimize their expenses during this pandemic season, to the extent of reducing manpower from their respective businesses.

But thinking about leaving this league, that's far from reality, as if they really thinking about that for sure it's been
long time that they already deal with it.

They can easily build their own league if they don't see any help that PBA brought to their business, but look we still
have PBA and they still staying.

The expenses we are talking is all about on running the bubble, they can reduce the salary of the PBA players because they have no option, but there's also a negative effect on the players especially those who are receiving big salaries as they might leave PBA and look for a better offer.

We can't blame this to the PBA because they are just doing the best they can to continue the league and with lack of income, a reduction of salary which is the bigger expenses of the total expenses is necessary, maybe we can blame the government here for not managing our country properly in battling the covid-19 pandemic.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 27, 2021, 05:18:51 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 27, 2021, 04:52:40 AM

We already read that the league lost 70 Million with the bubble that they did last year. In the end, I believe that the Pangilinans and the Cojuangco's will not leave the league. They're businessmen and losses in a business is already normal for them. They are thinking long term and they believe that the league will recover once the pandemic has ended.

That's for sure, they'll keep the business as these two are the biggest businessman in the Philippines. They can advertise their product through the PBA, so it's stupid to stop it that they had already built through decades, it's not good for their reputation. They can always minimize the expenses if they want to just to ensure the league will continue to run and that includes reducing the salary of the players.

It's more easy to them to minimize their expenses during this pandemic season, to the extent of reducing manpower from their respective businesses.

But thinking about leaving this league, that's far from reality, as if they really thinking about that for sure it's been
long time that they already deal with it.

They can easily build their own league if they don't see any help that PBA brought to their business, but look we still
have PBA and they still staying.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 27, 2021, 04:52:40 AM

We already read that the league lost 70 Million with the bubble that they did last year. In the end, I believe that the Pangilinans and the Cojuangco's will not leave the league. They're businessmen and losses in a business is already normal for them. They are thinking long term and they believe that the league will recover once the pandemic has ended.

That's for sure, they'll keep the business as these two are the biggest businessman in the Philippines. They can advertise their product through the PBA, so it's stupid to stop it that they had already built through decades, it's not good for their reputation. They can always minimize the expenses if they want to just to ensure the league will continue to run and that includes reducing the salary of the players.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 25, 2021, 04:18:32 PM

Based on the article I read, PBA has lost 70 million pesos in the last bubble and they could no longer sustain another bubble, thankfully the captain ball of each team are willing to help with the expenses of this current bubble set up. If the situation of our country will not change after this season, I don't know if we will still see the PBA continue with a new season.

I've read that with the statement of Marcial, they're the ones to ask for favor and help from everyone's last bubble. And now, it's their players that have asked if they can help and of course he doesn't have to decline that approval for their help. That's a lot of money and I wonder if this pandemic won't have any clue to be seen close to its end, how this league will survive. I guess the business tycoons will step in and will give their help to the league just to sustain another season.

PBA will survive, there's only two names that this league will rely on. Pangilinan and Cojuangco will not let this league to end up this way, even this virus still active hitting our country, there's still money that will flow to assist this sport.

I see your point and that's really a huge amount of losses, but as long as the team owners are still there to take part, it will continue.

Those teams have established businesses. Such amount of money is not that much with the exposures the business is getting with the PBA.

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

Two possible scenarios that might happen if those 2 big names jumped into another league.
1. PBA might go down and another PH league will arise.
2. PBA will try to recover by adding more teams coming from different companies.

Basketball here in our country is business lets face it and the league is revolving around 2 companies namely SMC and MVP companies and teams. Without the 2 of them, there will be no PBA and the league might crumble as well. These losses coming from the league isn't permanent and I believe that the league will recover from its losses. The only problem is that "how sustainable the league is during this pandemic".

We already read that the league lost 70 Million with the bubble that they did last year. In the end, I believe that the Pangilinans and the Cojuangco's will not leave the league. They're businessmen and losses in a business is already normal for them. They are thinking long term and they believe that the league will recover once the pandemic has ended.

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We just need to hope for the best. Every institution is struggling with the pandemic and PBA is no excuse. Other countries are now slowly turning their sports events into normal and we can see a large audience now because they are all vaccinated even others don't want. There are lots of vaccine doses supplies now in our country but others are still hesitant.

That's the advice of WHO, without people having fully vaccinated, the large mass audiences are not encouraged. The number of big cases everyday is already usual to see and it can't be controlled but if only most people are vaccinated, it can reduce the risks of being a spreader.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 26, 2021, 04:01:53 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 01:13:00 PM

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

Business is their priorities and PBA is a good venue to advertise their products, for sure the best interest is to keep the league and support to whatever the needs to provide.

It's far to happen as these two well-known personalities are always getting their demands to this association.

They will keep the ball rolling and they will continue to use this channel to advertise and to keep attracting consumers to buy their products and support the team that they've owned.

I'm just thinking of the worse outcome that can happen when they let go this venue for their products because there are other leagues that if they jump in, for sure it's going to blow out and will also become popular. Wherever the players are, fans and customers will follow so these two tycoons will be jumping in for whatever they like if they see it's no longer profitable and beneficial for them. But yeah, this is far from happening and we can just think of the worst possible thing to come but right now, as long as the league continues, everything's good.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 26, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

If you'll ask me, there's no need to advertise the product anymore as it's already popular in the market, and I don't think advertisement alone could sustain the future of the PBA. Just like the NBA or any other type of sports, their biggest revenue came from the gate entrance, and since there's no crowd in the bubble, they'll continue to experience losses and their funds might not be enough in the long run.

That's a horrible idea, mate. Cheesy

PBA teams and their products are already popular way back before, why they didn't end the advertisement? Because it was 100% effective. The exposure is great and they have stats for it. Gate entrance is just a bonus as they are even paying for the event rent. You are right that advertisements can't sustain the PBA alone but at least they are trying their best. Just appreciate what they are doing.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 26, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

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Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 01:13:00 PM

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

Business is their priorities and PBA is a good venue to advertise their products, for sure the best interest is to keep the league and support to whatever the needs to provide.

It's far to happen as these two well-known personalities are always getting their demands to this association.

They will keep the ball rolling and they will continue to use this channel to advertise and to keep attracting consumers to buy their products and support the team that they've owned.

If you'll ask me, there's no need to advertise the product anymore as it's already popular in the market, and I don't think advertisement alone could sustain the future of the PBA. Just like the NBA or any other type of sports, their biggest revenue came from the gate entrance, and since there's no crowd in the bubble, they'll continue to experience losses and their funds might not be enough in the long run.

They still need PBA to advertise, those audience from PBA solidify the brand, the product creates impact to viewers and fans. These two giants will not let this league to fall.

We all suffering from this pandemic but those reserves that these two companies still have, can sustain the league for another years.

We are talking about Pangilinan and Cojuangco, which mostly known as business tycoon. They won't spend money inside this league if there're no perks behind, aside from those underground gambling which possibly exist between those franchise owners.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 26, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

If you'll ask me, there's no need to advertise the product anymore as it's already popular in the market, and I don't think advertisement alone could sustain the future of the PBA. Just like the NBA or any other type of sports, their biggest revenue came from the gate entrance, and since there's no crowd in the bubble, they'll continue to experience losses and their funds might not be enough in the long run.

What you are saying is obvious. Of course with the current pandemic, advertisement alone couldn't sustain the PBA but they were left with no choice.

And you will say there's no need for an advertisement lol. What a logic you have there just because the product is already popular in the market. You don't understand how useful it is especially now.

The biggest revenue came from the gate entrance? Disagree here. Totally different from the NBA where people really watch live. Didn't you know how poor gate entrance at every PBA conference was? Prior to the pandemic, live audiences aren't that much. We can only see a good gate entrance when Finals or if Ginebra is playing. That's why PBA is profiting most at TV exposures or Youtube. The more viewers, the better the ratings, the more ads they can put on their timeslot, the more they are being paid by the companies (they are even struggling on that part).

But yes, PBA will slowly depleted their savings if the pandemic situation here in the country won't change. Let's hope for the quick vaccine rollout here. Still, many people here don't want to be vaccinated.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 26, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

If you'll ask me, there's no need to advertise the product anymore as it's already popular in the market, and I don't think advertisement alone could sustain the future of the PBA. Just like the NBA or any other type of sports, their biggest revenue came from the gate entrance, and since there's no crowd in the bubble, they'll continue to experience losses and their funds might not be enough in the long run.

With this pandemic, every economy of the country is badly affected and the Philippines is not spared so I agree that even advertisements could not save the PBA if this pandemic continues for a year or two and no medicine for this covid. Vaccination and a breakthrough on how to treat Covid is what we want for everything to be back to normal and then there could be a live audience to help generate income.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 26, 2021, 04:20:29 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 26, 2021, 04:01:53 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 01:13:00 PM

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

Business is their priorities and PBA is a good venue to advertise their products, for sure the best interest is to keep the league and support to whatever the needs to provide.

It's far to happen as these two well-known personalities are always getting their demands to this association.

They will keep the ball rolling and they will continue to use this channel to advertise and to keep attracting consumers to buy their products and support the team that they've owned.

If you'll ask me, there's no need to advertise the product anymore as it's already popular in the market, and I don't think advertisement alone could sustain the future of the PBA. Just like the NBA or any other type of sports, their biggest revenue came from the gate entrance, and since there's no crowd in the bubble, they'll continue to experience losses and their funds might not be enough in the long run.

Even the most popular business in the world still continues with their advertising, so they need the PBA to start running so their advertisements will not stop. Most of the viewers of the PBA are matured men, so the product like SMB and Ginebra will mostly benefit and they are also the most popular teams in the PBA owned by one company only. I'm just not sure with the financial aspects, but in terms of advertisement, that's my answer.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 26, 2021, 04:01:53 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 01:13:00 PM

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

Business is their priorities and PBA is a good venue to advertise their products, for sure the best interest is to keep the league and support to whatever the needs to provide.

It's far to happen as these two well-known personalities are always getting their demands to this association.

They will keep the ball rolling and they will continue to use this channel to advertise and to keep attracting consumers to buy their products and support the team that they've owned.

If you'll ask me, there's no need to advertise the product anymore as it's already popular in the market, and I don't think advertisement alone could sustain the future of the PBA. Just like the NBA or any other type of sports, their biggest revenue came from the gate entrance, and since there's no crowd in the bubble, they'll continue to experience losses and their funds might not be enough in the long run.

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Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2021, 01:13:00 PM

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

Business is their priorities and PBA is a good venue to advertise their products, for sure the best interest is to keep the league and support to whatever the needs to provide.

It's far to happen as these two well-known personalities are always getting their demands to this association.

They will keep the ball rolling and they will continue to use this channel to advertise and to keep attracting consumers to buy their products and support the team that they've owned.

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Another news that gives chances not only for the Pro but also those who are aspiring to play outside and received good amount of money.

Well to be targeted by scouts, a player should be talented and skilled. Take note that PH players are imports to them so they are expecting good at these players, the same as how we treat and looking forward to foreign players as imports here.

In other words, few PH players are fit and qualified for the criteria. Even a PBA player wants to play either in Japan or Sokor, if his statistics here are not good, chances are low to be signed.

That's definitely what would happen and I'm seeing a scenario that our best players will be imported abroad while we are left with regular players, if that's the case, our basketball will not be competitive as before. however, we can't blame the aspiring players that are given the chance to play abroad because they just want a greener pasture as they know basketball is not forever for them.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 25, 2021, 05:37:34 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 25, 2021, 05:07:23 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 25, 2021, 04:18:32 PM

Based on the article I read, PBA has lost 70 million pesos in the last bubble and they could no longer sustain another bubble, thankfully the captain ball of each team are willing to help with the expenses of this current bubble set up. If the situation of our country will not change after this season, I don't know if we will still see the PBA continue with a new season.

I've read that with the statement of Marcial, they're the ones to ask for favor and help from everyone's last bubble. And now, it's their players that have asked if they can help and of course he doesn't have to decline that approval for their help. That's a lot of money and I wonder if this pandemic won't have any clue to be seen close to its end, how this league will survive. I guess the business tycoons will step in and will give their help to the league just to sustain another season.

PBA will survive, there's only two names that this league will rely on. Pangilinan and Cojuangco will not let this league to end up this way, even this virus still active hitting our country, there's still money that will flow to assist this sport.

I see your point and that's really a huge amount of losses, but as long as the team owners are still there to take part, it will continue.

Those teams have established businesses. Such amount of money is not that much with the exposures the business is getting with the PBA.

I've seen some good discussion on FB that what if those two will jump into another league? what's left for the PBA then? I guess if that time comes, the PBA will plead to those two that they should stay in the league and they're the ones needed for the league to survive. That was a good discussion that I've seen but I don't think that it will happen but it's a good point that there really is the possibility that it might happen in the near future as these people knows best about business and they've been there for a long time.

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