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Quote from: chaser15 on July 29, 2020, 05:46:14 PM

Quote from: erikoy on July 29, 2020, 08:44:46 AM

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Worst comment so far here lol.

It won't happened. It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

This is possible mate, he knows the team very well, so he can bet against his own team. It's illegal, we all know that but there are owners who are selling their team to loss to syndicate, haven't heard a news about that, it's just rumors but I believe on it.

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It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

Only when they get caught.

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Blackwater Elite trading Bobby Ray Parks Jr. is a good decision for me to make room for a large-cap. Blackwater can't afford to offer another big salary that might help Ray Parks Jr. building the team. So they will use it to either catch another superstar or relies on some role players and gambles for it. The problem here is the player why the team is not improving. And now that they have a large-cap space, they can market again some role players.

Quote from: erikoy on July 29, 2020, 08:44:46 AM

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Worst comment so far here lol.

It won't happened. It will damaged the whole BlackWater company and franchises.

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Quote from: erikoy on July 29, 2020, 08:44:46 AM

But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game.

Nice suggestion, he will win but once he get caught, Dioceldo S. Sy will go straight up to the jail, PBA will not spare him anymore as that is a serious violating. That's what you called rigging sports and PBA is against that and made an announcement publicly, so maybe the players could also bet against themselves. lol.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 29, 2020, 07:36:22 AM

I expect that to happen since whenever they got a valuable asset they will just trade it to the strong them and I don't know on what they are thinking about that since how could their team earn success if they will just settled with low quality players. Maybe there are big money involve here and black water is farm team for the stronger ones, this is just my opinion but I always notice this.

Well, I am not thinking like that. It seems the problem here are the players. Of course low salary mean need to transfer to the strong and establish team to win a championship at the same time to earn big. Probably black water has poor management on the players and they were just joininh for publicity? But, the owners of this team could still earn a lot by betting on the other teams and letting their team losses in a game. Losing is not new to this team so this is why strong players will going to be traded to other strong teams for money and championship games.

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Blackwater recently has so much potential that is why I believe he will keep the ownership of Blackwater.

I am not seeing the potential, they are the same team and they never improve, they had Ray Parks but they trade him to the TNT, this team does not want to win, so might as well it will be sold and maybe the new management will be able to improve the team.

They are not aiming to win or to build a strong foundation for this team, if they are serious in winning keeping Ray Parks might be a good start for them.

But from what we've seen, instead of building good players around Parks, they've
choose to trade him putting them out again from any chances to this league.

That was really a disappointing move by the Blackwater management, the team was already beginning to hype when they acquired Ray Parks as he was playing really well during his time with Blackwater, and one day we heard a news that he is traded to a contender team, and that makes Blackwater a bad team again.

I expect that to happen since whenever they got a valuable asset they will just trade it to the strong them and I don't know on what they are thinking about that since how could their team earn success if they will just settled with low quality players. Maybe there are big money involve here and black water is farm team for the stronger ones, this is just my opinion but I always notice this.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 29, 2020, 03:06:24 AM

Quote from: Japinat on July 29, 2020, 02:32:34 AM

Quote from: Eureka_07 on July 29, 2020, 01:47:37 AM

Blackwater recently has so much potential that is why I believe he will keep the ownership of Blackwater.

I am not seeing the potential, they are the same team and they never improve, they had Ray Parks but they trade him to the TNT, this team does not want to win, so might as well it will be sold and maybe the new management will be able to improve the team.

They are not aiming to win or to build a strong foundation for this team, if they are serious in winning keeping Ray Parks might be a good start for them.

But from what we've seen, instead of building good players around Parks, they've
choose to trade him putting them out again from any chances to this league.

That was really a disappointing move by the Blackwater management, the team was already beginning to hype when they acquired Ray Parks as he was playing really well during his time with Blackwater, and one day we heard a news that he is traded to a contender team, and that makes Blackwater a bad team again.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 29, 2020, 02:32:34 AM

Quote from: Eureka_07 on July 29, 2020, 01:47:37 AM

Blackwater recently has so much potential that is why I believe he will keep the ownership of Blackwater.

I am not seeing the potential, they are the same team and they never improve, they had Ray Parks but they trade him to the TNT, this team does not want to win, so might as well it will be sold and maybe the new management will be able to improve the team.

They are not aiming to win or to build a strong foundation for this team, if they are serious in winning keeping Ray Parks might be a good start for them.

But from what we've seen, instead of building good players around Parks, they've
choose to trade him putting them out again from any chances to this league.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on July 29, 2020, 01:47:37 AM

Blackwater recently has so much potential that is why I believe he will keep the ownership of Blackwater.

I am not seeing the potential, they are the same team and they never improve, they had Ray Parks but they trade him to the TNT, this team does not want to win, so might as well it will be sold and maybe the new management will be able to improve the team.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 29, 2020, 12:32:44 AM

I think Blackwater will not be for sale now.

Blackwater given stern warning, but spared punishment by GAB

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THE Games and Amusements Board (GAB) issued a stern warning to Blackwater for violating rules and safety protocols of the Inter-Agency Task Force (IATF) after returning to training without clearance.

The Elite, however, were spared punishment by GAB chairman Baham Mitra, who said the team, led by owner Dioceldo Sy, vowed to follow government protocols from hereon.

Maybe the owner has only said those words about selling the team due to frustration, and now that they are spared, I guess they will be neutral now and will be more compliant with the rules.

I guess so. He was just frustated and very angry on that time because they were given punishments and need to pay because they did not complied to the rules given by PBA.
I am sure that he did not mean it.
Blackwater recently has so much potential that is why I believe he will keep the ownership of Blackwater.

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I think Blackwater will not be for sale now.

Blackwater given stern warning, but spared punishment by GAB

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THE Games and Amusements Board (GAB) issued a stern warning to Blackwater for violating rules and safety protocols of the Inter-Agency Task Force (IATF) after returning to training without clearance.

The Elite, however, were spared punishment by GAB chairman Baham Mitra, who said the team, led by owner Dioceldo Sy, vowed to follow government protocols from hereon.

Maybe the owner has only said those words about selling the team due to frustration, and now that they are spared, I guess they will be neutral now and will be more compliant with the rules.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 28, 2020, 04:56:43 PM

But until theirs no vaccine we will just wander on when this thing gonna happen but its good that we have a positive insight with 1 successful vaccine created by moderna since for sure once their creation released we will see the PBA goes live again with no intervention but for sure the audience live viewing for that time still limited. I just hope it will be released by this year or else we will have a bad year because of this virus.

I think there would some issues to be raised in the future with the vaccines being created due to most of it were being rush. As we all know that most of the effective vaccine created in some time for it take a lot of years to observed in a tested object so there could be a high chance that the vaccine will react to anti bodies later of the days after vaccine will be injdected to the body. However, we shall all pray that anything will be fine and everything will be alright.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 28, 2020, 03:53:00 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Hey, will you push the betting if Calvin Abueva will play on season-opener?

After the PBA announcement, if they will announce it this month that they will resume, let's push for that so that we can decide the deadline.

But I agree above, numbers don't lie and it become worst every day. If this continue, no PBA this year.

I think the approval to resume the practice is already a go signal for the PBA to resume, if they don't have a chance to approve it, then probably they just advise the PBA early to relax and forget about the season resumption.

The practice signifies that theirs really a good chance for this league to resume, though everything will still relied with how the government
will let the league and it will be depend if there's changes to current setups.

It will be announced though if changes take place whether the
league will push or everything will be ends up to nothing and postponements will continue.

But until theirs no vaccine we will just wander on when this thing gonna happen but its good that we have a positive insight with 1 successful vaccine created by moderna since for sure once their creation released we will see the PBA goes live again with no intervention but for sure the audience live viewing for that time still limited. I just hope it will be released by this year or else we will have a bad year because of this virus.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 27, 2020, 05:28:24 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Hey, will you push the betting if Calvin Abueva will play on season-opener?

After the PBA announcement, if they will announce it this month that they will resume, let's push for that so that we can decide the deadline.

But I agree above, numbers don't lie and it become worst every day. If this continue, no PBA this year.

I think the approval to resume the practice is already a go signal for the PBA to resume, if they don't have a chance to approve it, then probably they just advise the PBA early to relax and forget about the season resumption.

The practice signifies that theirs really a good chance for this league to resume, though everything will still relied with how the government
will let the league and it will be depend if there's changes to current setups.

It will be announced though if changes take place whether the
league will push or everything will be ends up to nothing and postponements will continue.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 27, 2020, 05:28:24 PM

I think the approval to resume the practice is already a go signal for the PBA to resume, if they don't have a chance to approve it, then probably they just advise the PBA early to relax and forget about the season resumption.

I think, No. The approval to resume practice is basically giving a time for PBA to do their respective training just in case the PBA will resume. And the resume is not just applied in basketball but for other sports as well. In other words, it's a general approval.

PBA is expected to announce their decision to resume the league next month and if ever, like to start the league by October. The approval to resume practice gives more time for teams not to rush for it in case the season will resume. A good preparation indeed instead of they will resume practice after the official announcement.

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 28, 2020, 08:04:13 AM

Hey, i will try to figure this one over the weekend as i'm busy with work IRL during weekdays. Gonna talk to some members on how to do this kind of competition so that we will smooth transactions and no problems may occur. Thanks for your intent and hopefully more users will join this betting and BTW we will do the thread in our local section.

Count me in.

Just share your proposal/rules/terms with us then let's see if there's a need for any modifications.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Hey, will you push the betting if Calvin Abueva will play on season-opener?

Hey, i will try to figure this one over the weekend as i'm busy with work IRL during weekdays. Gonna talk to some members on how to do this kind of competition so that we will smooth transactions and no problems may occur. Thanks for your intend and hopefully more users will this betting and BTW we will do the thread in our local section.

I'm here to support that, hopefully you'll find more time to create a competition so we can also make some noise in our local.
The sports fanatics in our local is not posting anymore, if there's a competition, for sure they will start posting and will participate on that.

Suggestion, make the minimum bet affordable for us as we are in crisis now. Grin

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 27, 2020, 04:55:25 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Hey, will you push the betting if Calvin Abueva will play on season-opener?

Hey, i will try to figure this one over the weekend as i'm busy with work IRL during weekdays. Gonna talk to some members on how to do this kind of competition so that we will smooth transactions and no problems may occur. Thanks for your intent and hopefully more users will join this betting and BTW we will do the thread in our local section.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Quote from: mirakal on July 27, 2020, 02:30:29 AM

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Hopefully, next will be the PBA season resumption.

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Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Now we are just talking of when is the official resume of the biggest basketball league in our country Cheesy

. They said it will be October but still it depends on the situation.

If nothing bad happens as they go along and if there will be no positive cases then maybe the resume is coming near. Anyway it will be decided next month so there is still weeks of observation. Lets just hope that nothing bad happens.

With regards to Abueva, there is a high chance that he will play this conference if it will resume since we are hearing positive comments from Comm. Marcial already but still I'm waiting for the company who will buy the Blackwater Franchise Cheesy

or its bought already.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 27, 2020, 04:55:25 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Hey, will you push the betting if Calvin Abueva will play on season-opener?

After the PBA announcement, if they will announce it this month that they will resume, let's push for that so that we can decide the deadline.

But I agree above, numbers don't lie and it become worst every day. If this continue, no PBA this year.

I think the approval to resume the practice is already a go signal for the PBA to resume, if they don't have a chance to approve it, then probably they just advise the PBA early to relax and forget about the season resumption.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 27, 2020, 08:02:39 AM

Quote from: mirakal on July 27, 2020, 02:30:29 AM

Great news everyone.

PBA, pro sports cleared to resume training as PSC-GAB-DOH order signed

Hopefully, next will be the PBA season resumption.

Huge risk for the those who sign the said agreement to continue the event. Anyway, that is their problem.of course if anything goes wrong because they just can't wait for all things to settle back to the normal. Adjusting to the new normal is just to make an assurance that not totally all the establisment will be closing especially the essentials to help control for survival because in the first place we are not ready for this phenomenon. Anyway, goodluck to them if anything will goes wrong.

Pretty sure government agencies had made a waiver before signing anything else.

A huge risk but a good development for sure they have their own safety protocol on their team and management, they know the risk brought by the virus on how to minimize the danger on it. I'm sure they learned from the experience of the experts since this virus takes quite a long months already so provably a plan has been done so that they can execute the practice well.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 27, 2020, 05:25:36 AM

Also hoping that Abueva will play on Phoenix season opener.

Hey, will you push the betting if Calvin Abueva will play on season-opener?

After the PBA announcement, if they will announce it this month that they will resume, let's push for that so that we can decide the deadline.

But I agree above, numbers don't lie and it become worst every day. If this continue, no PBA this year.

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