2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 11.

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Quote from: Dickiy on November 22, 2022, 12:51:20 PM

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Quote from: kotwica666 on November 22, 2022, 12:20:56 PM

Argentina's record of 36 matches unbeaten ended in today's match. Maybe many fans still can't believe that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Argentina's game today was really random, I don't know why they played like that. The next game is against Mexico, who are a very good team, Argentina will have to work hard to improve.

I also did not expect and was very surprised when I saw Argentina defeated by Saudi Arabia today. Even though in possession of the ball on the field, it was very clear that Argentina was far superior to Saudi Arabia, but Saudi Arabia managed to make a very good surprise in this match so that they got the win. This is really something I never expected before the game started.

I find it strange what happened on the pitch today, did Lionel Scaloni not coach his team well? Or has the stamina and ability of the Argentine players decreased? In my opinion, the average Argentine player is a world star player, but for some reason today's match I considered it so strange, even though it was only 2-1 I still feel that I have not accepted that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia.
I feel that there is a big game behind today's Argentina match loss, do you guys feel the same way?

This is beyond my expectation.

@Dickiy this was a classic case of one team playing with over confidence while the other team played with nothing to lose, and thus full credit’s to Saudi Arabia cause they gave Argentina a timely warning that they can be defeated too.

Furthermore I wonder if someone just for fun had selected Saudi in their bet slip, because they would have gotten monstrous odds before the match began and now I wonder if this upset will cause many here to wager on the underdog team in the hope of earning a big amount when their selected team causes an upset.

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Olivier Giroud in the book of highest goal scorers for the France national team after netting two brilliant goals against Australia. Kylian Mbappe and his teammates shine in the game with key passes that yielded goals for France. It was an easy game for the defending champions and they hope to win more games in the world cup. However with the absence of their keyplayers in the team, Deschamps still look comfortable with his present squad and his ultimate target is to reach the finals for the second time.

France did better than expected. And let's not forget the fact that they are missing two of their best players in Paul Pogba and Karim Benzema. But players such as Olivier Giroud, Kylian Mbappé and Adrien Rabiot stepped up their game to make up for the absence of these two. And the contribution from Didier Deschamps can't be ignored. He has managed the French team for more than a decade now, and it was his decision to have Rabiot in the playing XI. And he faced a lot of criticism for this decision. His decision proved right though, as Rabiot was the player who scored first goal for France yesterday.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 22, 2022, 05:58:54 PM

France did well today, even going one goal down they show their class,and come back with a well deserved victory, the absence of Karim Benzema didn't show, Oliver giroud cover and deliver a brace. France is truly talented without key players like ngolo kante,Paul pogba, Hernandez and the inform Nkunku are absence from the team.but instead mbappe rise and make his country proud.and giroud have a good role if France are to win this tournament.but my favourite is France.

Olivier Giroud in the book of highest goal scorers for the France national team after netting two brilliant goals against Australia. Kylian Mbappe and his teammates shine in the game with key passes that yielded goals for France. It was an easy game for the defending champions and they hope to win more games in the world cup. However with the absence of their keyplayers in the team, Deschamps still look comfortable with his present squad and his ultimate target is to reach the finals for the second time.

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Quote from: Dickiy on November 22, 2022, 12:51:20 PM

I find it strange what happened on the pitch today, did Lionel Scaloni not coach his team well? Or has the stamina and ability of the Argentine players decreased? In my opinion, the average Argentine player is a world star player, but for some reason today's match I considered it so strange, even though it was only 2-1 I still feel that I have not accepted that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia.
I feel that there is a big game behind today's Argentina match loss, do you guys feel the same way?

This is beyond my expectation.

I don't feel the same way you feel, because Argentina's defeat was pure and a win for Saudi Arabia is not strange either in my opinion or there is a game behind it. Because now everything is clearly visible on the field where even the referee himself can see every incident repeatedly via the screen available on the field if there is a doubtful violation decision.

So this is not at all strange because I see the defense of Argentina itself is also not as good as when Argentina made an attack on Saudi Arabia. If you think that a national team that has many stars can't lose games, I think it's very inaccurate if you don't know more about the Saudi Arabian players. Because you should also see how Saudi Arabia's players trained before the world cup and also competed in the world cup against Argentina.

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Quote from: nullama on November 22, 2022, 07:53:33 PM

France managed to go from losing 0 - 1 to winning 4 -1 against Australia. They just simply were the better team, and it showed in the field. They remained calm after the initial goal and they just played better the rest of the match.

They could even have scored more goals actually. Well deserved win for France.

So far, the UEFA teams are performing better than expected. England won against Iran by a margin of 6-2, and yesterday France won by 4-1 against Australia. Netherlands looked OK in their match against Senegal, and the same can be said about Wales and Danmark as well. The bright spot for AFC was Saudi Arabia's upset win against Argentina, but at the same time the heavy defeats from Iran and Australia would dampen the mood. Being an Asian, I am looking forward to matches from Japan and South Korea.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 22, 2022, 05:58:54 PM

France did well today, even going one goal down they show their class,and come back with a well deserved victory, the absence of Karim Benzema didn't show, Oliver giroud cover and deliver a brace. France is truly talented without key players like ngolo kante,Paul pogba, Hernandez and the inform Nkunku are absence from the team.but instead mbappe rise and make his country proud.and giroud have a good role if France are to win this tournament.but my favourite is France.

France managed to go from losing 0 - 1 to winning 4 -1 against Australia. They just simply were the better team, and it showed in the field. They remained calm after the initial goal and they just played better the rest of the match.

They could even have scored more goals actually. Well deserved win for France.

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France did well today, even going one goal down they show their class,and come back with a well deserved victory, the absence of Karim Benzema didn't show, Oliver giroud cover and deliver a brace. France is truly talented without key players like ngolo kante,Paul pogba, Hernandez and the inform Nkunku are absence from the team.but instead mbappe rise and make his country proud.and giroud have a good role if France are to win this tournament.but my favourite is France.

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Quote from: Silberman on November 22, 2022, 02:22:11 PM

No one expected Argentina to lose its unbeaten streak against Saudi Arabia, however while it is true that if they played 100 times Argentina will probably win 90 to 95 of those matches we also need to give credit to Saudi Arabia, at least to me it seemed as if they were playing for the offside which is why Argentinian players committed 10 offsides in all the game, which is a very high number, it was a risky tactic but the team of Saudi Arabia was well coached, this should show that even teams which are clearly inferior in terms of the skill of their players can still compete as long as they are trained appropriately.

Well what we were not expecting has happened, and a lot of gamblers betting slips have cut and many have loss money today. Argentina players were not careful with Saudi Arabia team. Argentina players were busy having offsides while Saudi Arabia players were using that period to position themselves very well to strike and finally their plan worked well so they had to strike and scored the goals. Though Argentina played more than Saudi Arabia but they didn't arrange themselves and they were just running and kicking

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Quote from: Silberman on November 22, 2022, 02:22:11 PM

No one expected Argentina to lose its unbeaten streak against Saudi Arabia, however while it is true that if they played 100 times Argentina will probably win 90 to 95 of those matches we also need to give credit to Saudi Arabia, at least to me it seemed as if they were playing for the offside which is why Argentinian players committed 10 offsides in all the game, which is a very high number, it was a risky tactic but the team of Saudi Arabia was well coached, this should show that even teams which are clearly inferior in terms of the skill of their players can still compete as long as they are trained appropriately.

Exactly, So far, the most surprising are the results from Argentina - Saudi Arabia, and also Denmark - Tunisia. Argentina lost in their first match, and Messi couldn't do much in their first match. This must have been a really big pressure. What's more, they lost to Saudi Arabia, which incidentally is not a top club. Currently, Argentina is at the bottom of the group standings.

On the other hand, in fact, Denmark also couldn't make any goal against Tunisia. Denmark in this match is also the favorite and is predicted to make some goals because they are also big countries. However, the result is here, drawn.

Do the weather really give bad influence to some players from certain countries?

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Quote from: kotwica666 on November 22, 2022, 12:33:22 PM

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Quite agree with what you said for France especially in this case even though they are still a lot of great players gathered there but without the presence of Kante, Pogba and Benzema it still reduces their intensity.
Argentina lost because the scheme played by the Arabs in offside really worked well and now France need to be aware of several possibilities that occur even though they are still the favorites in this match.

I want to keep France ahead in the match between France and Australia. Because France has the best players today. Who have been dominating Real Madrid and PSG and better clubs. Makes me wonder how Australia's defense will handle players like Benzema Mbappe. But there is no telling what happens during the game. Now is the time to see what France does.

You may have missed the news that Benzema had to go home early and not participate in the world cup this time because he was injured in training.
Back to the main topic, France are now leading 2-1 after having to be surprised by Craig Goodwin's goal in 9 minutes of the first half.
Giroud as a substitute for Benzema now seems to want to prove it and his 1 goal in the 32nd minute proves that he is indeed worthy to replace Benzema in the French attack.

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Quote from: wmaurik on November 22, 2022, 12:28:57 PM

I also did not expect and was very surprised when I saw Argentina defeated by Saudi Arabia today. Even though in possession of the ball on the field, it was very clear that Argentina was far superior to Saudi Arabia, but Saudi Arabia managed to make a very good surprise in this match so that they got the win. This is really something I never expected before the game started.

Argentina's defeat was surprising, but actually Argentina was just unlucky throughout the game. It was proven that Argentina had quite a number of opportunities but all of them failed because the Arab defense was really tight and difficult to penetrate. This is the strongest defensive strategy I have ever seen in the 2022 World Cup.

Do you think Saudi Arabia played well in that game, I think you would say they are quite smart and physically strong. 6 yellow cards out of 21 fouls committed by the Arabs proves they are not afraid of any consequences.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on November 22, 2022, 10:51:12 AM

ohhh messi and argentina . another disaster at a world cup . messi still said at the copa that they finally want to play properly this time.
and then comes the first game of the world cup and argentina loses 1-2 to egypt.
today is a very very black day for the south americans. i am now curious about the other two games.
if argentina fails again in the preliminary round ...... that would be a huge catastrophe for argentine football.

Argentina's record of 36 matches unbeaten ended in today's match. Maybe many fans still can't believe that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Argentina's game today was really random, I don't know why they played like that. The next game is against Mexico, who are a very good team, Argentina will have to work hard to improve.

If Argentina play with such a performance, how they can win. Argentina have to pay for the mistake they made in the beginning. They couldn't score the 3 goals they gave. The off side seems to have stopped them today. This mistake of such big and good team players is not acceptable. If they had won today's match then maybe these questions would not have arisen but if they had lost they would certainly be criticized now. They are in this distant state because of making the same mistakes again and again. There are certainly concerns about what could happen to other good teams if this is the case with Saudi Arabia.

No one expected Argentina to lose its unbeaten streak against Saudi Arabia, however while it is true that if they played 100 times Argentina will probably win 90 to 95 of those matches we also need to give credit to Saudi Arabia, at least to me it seemed as if they were playing for the offside which is why Argentinian players committed 10 offsides in all the game, which is a very high number, it was a risky tactic but the team of Saudi Arabia was well coached, this should show that even teams which are clearly inferior in terms of the skill of their players can still compete as long as they are trained appropriately.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on November 21, 2022, 08:01:46 AM

Today Group A match day, Senegal vs Netherlands. Group A already played 1 matches and Ecuador won the match Qatar lost the point. Today big team Netherlands vs Senegal match.I think Netherlands will win today match and They will go the table topper. My prediction goes to Netherlands and Ecuador will be qualify in next round.

It was a really tough game in the first 80mins of the game, Senegal showed great strength and determination and I will say they played better because they created more chances, got more attempts but thanks the Dutch goal keeper wjo stayed active and made quite some good saves to keep the game goaless until 85 mins when Gakpo headed one past Mendy and Netherland made it the added time to seal the win and getting all three points. I'm proud of Senegal because they showed good character and composure through out the game. Hopefully they will come back stronger in the next games.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on November 22, 2022, 12:20:56 PM

Quote from: Soonandwaite on November 22, 2022, 10:51:12 AM

ohhh messi and argentina . another disaster at a world cup . messi still said at the copa that they finally want to play properly this time.
and then comes the first game of the world cup and argentina loses 1-2 to egypt.
today is a very very black day for the south americans. i am now curious about the other two games.
if argentina fails again in the preliminary round ...... that would be a huge catastrophe for argentine football.

Argentina's record of 36 matches unbeaten ended in today's match. Maybe many fans still can't believe that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Argentina's game today was really random, I don't know why they played like that. The next game is against Mexico, who are a very good team, Argentina will have to work hard to improve.

If Argentina play with such a performance, how they can win. Argentina have to pay for the mistake they made in the beginning. They couldn't score the 3 goals they gave. The off side seems to have stopped them today. This mistake of such big and good team players is not acceptable. If they had won today's match then maybe these questions would not have arisen but if they had lost they would certainly be criticized now. They are in this distant state because of making the same mistakes again and again. There are certainly concerns about what could happen to other good teams if this is the case with Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: wmaurik on November 22, 2022, 12:28:57 PM

Quote from: kotwica666 on November 22, 2022, 12:20:56 PM

Argentina's record of 36 matches unbeaten ended in today's match. Maybe many fans still can't believe that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Argentina's game today was really random, I don't know why they played like that. The next game is against Mexico, who are a very good team, Argentina will have to work hard to improve.

I also did not expect and was very surprised when I saw Argentina defeated by Saudi Arabia today. Even though in possession of the ball on the field, it was very clear that Argentina was far superior to Saudi Arabia, but Saudi Arabia managed to make a very good surprise in this match so that they got the win. This is really something I never expected before the game started.

I find it strange what happened on the pitch today, did Lionel Scaloni not coach his team well? Or has the stamina and ability of the Argentine players decreased? In my opinion, the average Argentine player is a world star player, but for some reason today's match I considered it so strange, even though it was only 2-1 I still feel that I have not accepted that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia.
I feel that there is a big game behind today's Argentina match loss, do you guys feel the same way?

This is beyond my expectation.

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I guess after watching how Saudi Arabia shocked the world by beating Argentina, France would surely need to be wary of Australia too even though France are clearly the hot favorite to win the match in full time. France recent performance in the Uefa Nations League were pretty horrible, but I think France should still be able to beat Australia today.

Quite agree with what you said for France especially in this case even though they are still a lot of great players gathered there but without the presence of Kante, Pogba and Benzema it still reduces their intensity.
Argentina lost because the scheme played by the Arabs in offside really worked well and now France need to be aware of several possibilities that occur even though they are still the favorites in this match.

I want to keep France ahead in the match between France and Australia. Because France has the best players today. Who have been dominating Real Madrid and PSG and better clubs. Makes me wonder how Australia's defense will handle players like Benzema Mbappe. But there is no telling what happens during the game. Now is the time to see what France does.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on November 22, 2022, 12:20:56 PM

Argentina's record of 36 matches unbeaten ended in today's match. Maybe many fans still can't believe that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Argentina's game today was really random, I don't know why they played like that. The next game is against Mexico, who are a very good team, Argentina will have to work hard to improve.

I also did not expect and was very surprised when I saw Argentina defeated by Saudi Arabia today. Even though in possession of the ball on the field, it was very clear that Argentina was far superior to Saudi Arabia, but Saudi Arabia managed to make a very good surprise in this match so that they got the win. This is really something I never expected before the game started.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on November 22, 2022, 10:51:12 AM

ohhh messi and argentina . another disaster at a world cup . messi still said at the copa that they finally want to play properly this time.
and then comes the first game of the world cup and argentina loses 1-2 to egypt.
today is a very very black day for the south americans. i am now curious about the other two games.
if argentina fails again in the preliminary round ...... that would be a huge catastrophe for argentine football.

Argentina's record of 36 matches unbeaten ended in today's match. Maybe many fans still can't believe that Argentina was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Argentina's game today was really random, I don't know why they played like that. The next game is against Mexico, who are a very good team, Argentina will have to work hard to improve.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on November 22, 2022, 09:12:37 AM

I guess after watching how Saudi Arabia shocked the world by beating Argentina, France would surely need to be wary of Australia too even though France are clearly the hot favorite to win the match in full time. France recent performance in the Uefa Nations League were pretty horrible, but I think France should still be able to beat Australia today.

Quite agree with what you said for France especially in this case even though they are still a lot of great players gathered there but without the presence of Kante, Pogba and Benzema it still reduces their intensity.
Argentina lost because the scheme played by the Arabs in offside really worked well and now France need to be aware of several possibilities that occur even though they are still the favorites in this match.

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ohhh messi and argentina . another disaster at a world cup . messi still said at the copa that they finally want to play properly this time.
and then comes the first game of the world cup and argentina loses 1-2 to egypt.
today is a very very black day for the south americans. i am now curious about the other two games.
if argentina fails again in the preliminary round ...... that would be a huge catastrophe for argentine football.

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