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I felt sorry for especially Italy and Turkey yesterday. Italy played a game that they had the control of from the beginning to the end. But North Macedonia somehow performed a miracle against Italy and scored the winning goal. And they are one step closer to the World Cup while Italy are out of it completely. Italy were devastated after this result despite all that effort. And the Portugal - Turkey game was really exciting especially at one point. Portugal got 2-0 ahead but Turkey made it 2-1. After that, Turkey got a crucial opportunity by a penalty to score the equalizer. Burak had a big responsibility there but he missed it. And after a loss of self-confidence, Portugal scored one more goal and won by 3-1. It was the turning point of the game for them.

I didn't watch the match, but I read about it and they say it really was a dramatic game.
It is quite controversial to receive the news that the reigning Euro Cup champion will be left out of the world cup for the second time.

I honestly think the points system is much fairer, where a single result and a few strokes of luck aren't enough to eliminate a good team from the world cup.
Anyway, I bet Macedonia will not have the same luck against Portugal, or could I be wrong?

I don't think that North Macedonia can do the same against Portugal as well. They got very lucky against Italy certainly. Italy took control of the game from the start but they still couldn't score a goal despite having 30+ goal attempts. It must be the most unlucky day for Italy and the players were so sad after being eliminated by a weak opponent. But I'm not expecting North Macedonia's luck to exist against Portugal too. Portugal would score an early goal and win by 1-0 or 2-0 I think.

I agree that Macedonia is lucky against Italy. Had they had a few more accurate shots, they could have scored 3-4 goals in this match. Macedonia, who had a very good defense, managed to win this match. You can see that they are very lucky for this in their joy after the goal. If they can eliminate Portugal with the same chance, they can be the most surprise team of the world cup. My favorite is Portugal.
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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

Actually Portugal is not performing very well, but still Macedonia is a very weak team. I still think about how they got past Italy, I think they were pretty lucky. The whole country must have prayed for them to pass the tour Cheesy
All Macedonia is motivated for the match, they will play with all their strength against Portugal. But I still don't think they will win Smiley
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For the European qualifiers, I believe that the biggest disappointment has been Italy. I didn't expect Turkey to eliminate Portugal already. Actually they still did a good job and found even a big chance to equalize the score. But they failed and Portugal advanced to the last round. But nearly all people expected Italy to eliminate North Macedonia easily. And they had a solid performance to do so too. But here we are and they are out of the World Cup after losing by 1-0. It must be like a dream for their opponent to get past them.
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Both Argentina and Brazil are great teams, but all these matches without defeats they are only with teams from South America.
The real test for them will be when they will play with Portugal, Germany, France, Croatia. Yes, in general, for any European team with a balanced squad and disciplined players.
Although we must admit that Argentina has a very good generation - Messi, di Maria. If Messi and his team don't win the World Cup this time, then he probably won't have any more chances.
Argentina humiliate Veneuezla yesterday after a 3-0 win. The game was only control by one team, both in the first and second half. In the second half, it became hot for Veneuezla because Argentina didn't hold back instead they focus on more goal-scoring chances which they actually scored. They dominated the game with 73% ball possession and Veneuezla only managing 27% and failed to record only 1 shot on target against Argentina. Venezuela played a defensive game but couldn't hold on within time not to concede more goals. Di marria and Messi send them back to trenches in the second half. The Argentines are looking above limit to qualify for the 2022 world cup. Leo Messi and Angel Di marriage are statically fit and inform for the upcoming fixtures, and I believe this could be the last world cup for the duo.
But this didn't come as a huge surprise. Brazil and Argentina are dominating the whole continent. Messi still missing the World Cup winner title and he will try everything to gain it this year. The previous world cups he was partly unlucky, partly left alone with a team that didn't have his class. Argentina will going as one of the favorite teams to win the world cup, let's see how they will perform against stronger teams from Europe.
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Both Argentina and Brazil are great teams, but all these matches without defeats they are only with teams from South America.
The real test for them will be when they will play with Portugal, Germany, France, Croatia. Yes, in general, for any European team with a balanced squad and disciplined players.
Although we must admit that Argentina has a very good generation - Messi, di Maria. If Messi and his team don't win the World Cup this time, then he probably won't have any more chances.
Argentina humiliate Veneuezla yesterday after a 3-0 win. The game was only control by one team, both in the first and second half. In the second half, it became hot for Veneuezla because Argentina didn't hold back instead they focus on more goal-scoring chances which they actually scored. They dominated the game with 73% ball possession and Veneuezla only managing 27% and failed to record only 1 shot on target against Argentina. Venezuela played a defensive game but couldn't hold on within time not to concede more goals. Di marria and Messi send them back to trenches in the second half. The Argentines are looking above limit to qualify for the 2022 world cup. Leo Messi and Angel Di marriage are statically fit and inform for the upcoming fixtures, and I believe this could be the last world cup for the duo.
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I felt sorry for especially Italy and Turkey yesterday. Italy played a game that they had the control of from the beginning to the end. But North Macedonia somehow performed a miracle against Italy and scored the winning goal. And they are one step closer to the World Cup while Italy are out of it completely. Italy were devastated after this result despite all that effort. And the Portugal - Turkey game was really exciting especially at one point. Portugal got 2-0 ahead but Turkey made it 2-1. After that, Turkey got a crucial opportunity by a penalty to score the equalizer. Burak had a big responsibility there but he missed it. And after a loss of self-confidence, Portugal scored one more goal and won by 3-1. It was the turning point of the game for them.

I didn't watch the match, but I read about it and they say it really was a dramatic game.
It is quite controversial to receive the news that the reigning Euro Cup champion will be left out of the world cup for the second time.

I honestly think the points system is much fairer, where a single result and a few strokes of luck aren't enough to eliminate a good team from the world cup.
Anyway, I bet Macedonia will not have the same luck against Portugal, or could I be wrong?

I don't think that North Macedonia can do the same against Portugal as well. They got very lucky against Italy certainly. Italy took control of the game from the start but they still couldn't score a goal despite having 30+ goal attempts. It must be the most unlucky day for Italy and the players were so sad after being eliminated by a weak opponent. But I'm not expecting North Macedonia's luck to exist against Portugal too. Portugal would score an early goal and win by 1-0 or 2-0 I think.
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That's football full of surprises, behind this defeat in Italy gave a hard slap to the reigning champions of Euro 2020 who for the second time failed to qualify for the quadrennial event.
 Worse yet, Italy also endured embarrassment after they failed to qualify for the World Cup with an unbeaten record during the 2022 World Cup Qualification group stage.

Of course, it is unfortunate that Italy failed to qualify for the World Cup twice in a row, and of course the failure of this Euro 2020 champion to qualify for Qatar surprised many parties because it was defeated by a non-seeded country, North Macedonia. However, there are some notes for Italy, after Euro 2020 the Gli Azzurri's performance seemed to have started to decline, in the last five matches, Italy only got one win and four draws.  

As a result, the Italian national team only finished as runner-up in Group C with a collection of 16 points. The Italian national team underwent a life-and-death match against Switzerland in the seventh matchday of Group C Qualification for the 2022 World Cup in the European zone on November 12, 2021. If they win in that match, the Italian national team will automatically qualify for the 2022 World Cup.

Italy's chance to win is very big, considering the match was held at home. However, Italy failed to take advantage of the home game after the match ended in a draw. Then in the final match of the group phase, Italy only played 1-1 against Northern Ireland while Switzerland overthrew Bulgaria 4-0. In addition, the absence of several key players such as Chiesa was also very influential, meaning that his successor failed to make a comparable contribution.
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In the South American qualifiers, Brazil and Argentina are unrivalled... Both teams have yet to lose 16 games in a row, indicating excellent preparation for the World Cup! I think both teams will aim high in the upcoming World Cup! It's a long time since either side have had a coveted cup... Of course there are many very strong teams in Europe too, but I would like to see Brazil or Argentina in the final!

yes i agree with you.
The last country from Latin America to win the world cup was Brazil in 2002.
now it's 2022 which means it's been 20 years since we can't become world champions, only Argentina can reach the cup final in 2014 but was defeated by Germany. I think it's time for countries from Latin America to become world champions. Maybe the strongest candidates are Argentina and Brazil, but I prefer Argentina to be able to advance to the final again after 2014 was defeated by Germany. I think this is the right time for Argentina because they have just won the Copa America, and the Argentine squad this year is more qualified than last year. I bet a lot on Messi and the guys.
Both Argentina and Brazil are great teams, but all these matches without defeats they are only with teams from South America.
The real test for them will be when they will play with Portugal, Germany, France, Croatia. Yes, in general, for any European team with a balanced squad and disciplined players.
Although we must admit that Argentina has a very good generation - Messi, di Maria. If Messi and his team don't win the World Cup this time, then he probably won't have any more chances.
It would be nice for Argentina to win it again for Messi. Messi has done his very best so far. He makes football look easy. If other players follow in the same footsteps with the same level of dedication, then they will have a chance. Argentine football won't be able to win the World Cup without Messi, Di Maria, and a perfect game-play from the entire squad. Let's win The World Cup captain, we know it is his last World Cup. When Latin American countries compete with top European countries, we all know that things won't go well, but the outcome would differ based on how much you felt motivated to beat a country. They have my best wishes.
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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

I wouldn't really agree with you.
Before Italy, Macedonia beat Germany away and showed that their results are not accidental and that they have a good team, especially in defense.
In addition, in the match with the Portuguese, they will be even stronger as a team because some important players are returning to team.
Portugal was not very convincing in the qualifications and lost in the key match at home against Serbia.
Against Turkey they were also not convincing and the match could very easily have gone into overtime.
I agree that Portugal is a better team, but at the moment they are not playing very convincingly and in Portugal they are under a lot of public pressure, while Macedonia can play without pressure.
Everything is still open in this match.
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Portugal played better than Turkey in the first half, but Turkey was better in the second half.
Burak Yilmaz missed a penalty, maybe we would have won the match if he hadn't missed it.
C.Ronaldo was unlucky.

Italy surprised everyone Sad
In the first half Portugal really pressed Turkey and they did very well because they created some chances and managed to put them 2-0 up without replying at the start of the half, when going into the second half Turkey tried to attack the Portugal defense and thanks to that attack the Turkish players could scored 1 goal so that the Portuguese players looked a little difficult in the second half, but unfortunately after Burak Yilmaz missed a penalty, the mentality of the Turkish players decreased and they had to accept a 3-1 defeat until the match was over.
The most critical point of the game was that Burak Yılmaz could not score the penalty kick. Burak was very impressed and cried after the match, apologizing. There was a fact that Enes Ünal, who had a very good form in La Liga and won the penalty, could have used the penalty. However, when Burak Yilmaz could not turn the penalty into a goal, the game turned in favor of Portugal. Because we watched Turkey trying to score a goal against Portugal, which was attacking very fast in the last minutes.
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In the South American qualifiers, Brazil and Argentina are unrivalled... Both teams have yet to lose 16 games in a row, indicating excellent preparation for the World Cup! I think both teams will aim high in the upcoming World Cup! It's a long time since either side have had a coveted cup... Of course there are many very strong teams in Europe too, but I would like to see Brazil or Argentina in the final!

yes i agree with you.
The last country from Latin America to win the world cup was Brazil in 2002.
now it's 2022 which means it's been 20 years since we can't become world champions, only Argentina can reach the cup final in 2014 but was defeated by Germany. I think it's time for countries from Latin America to become world champions. Maybe the strongest candidates are Argentina and Brazil, but I prefer Argentina to be able to advance to the final again after 2014 was defeated by Germany. I think this is the right time for Argentina because they have just won the Copa America, and the Argentine squad this year is more qualified than last year. I bet a lot on Messi and the guys.
Both Argentina and Brazil are great teams, but all these matches without defeats they are only with teams from South America.
The real test for them will be when they will play with Portugal, Germany, France, Croatia. Yes, in general, for any European team with a balanced squad and disciplined players.
Although we must admit that Argentina has a very good generation - Messi, di Maria. If Messi and his team don't win the World Cup this time, then he probably won't have any more chances.
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In the South American qualifiers, Brazil and Argentina are unrivalled... Both teams have yet to lose 16 games in a row, indicating excellent preparation for the World Cup! I think both teams will aim high in the upcoming World Cup! It's a long time since either side have had a coveted cup... Of course there are many very strong teams in Europe too, but I would like to see Brazil or Argentina in the final!

yes i agree with you.
The last country from Latin America to win the world cup was Brazil in 2002.
now it's 2022 which means it's been 20 years since we can't become world champions, only Argentina can reach the cup final in 2014 but was defeated by Germany. I think it's time for countries from Latin America to become world champions. Maybe the strongest candidates are Argentina and Brazil, but I prefer Argentina to be able to advance to the final again after 2014 was defeated by Germany. I think this is the right time for Argentina because they have just won the Copa America, and the Argentine squad this year is more qualified than last year. I bet a lot on Messi and the guys.
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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.
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As expected, Burak Yilmaz announced his retirement from the national team today. He has 31 goals in 77 games, a feat surpassed only by Hakan Sukur.

I really feel sorry for him, this is a horrible way to go. Basically his last touch in international football was a missed penalty that kicked Turkey from the World Cup.

Sport can sometimes be really cruel - he was great for Turkey over the years and there is a chance that he'll be remembered most by this miss.

It was an unlucky night for Burak Yilmaz. However, even if he had scored the penalty, he would still not be liked in Turkey. Cheesy Because he played for 4 big teams in the Turkish league. With each new transfer, he received bad reactions from the fans of his old team. He is an indisputable star for Turkish football with his performance and sensational statements. He will no longer play for the national team. The end of his career in the national team could have been better, but it didn't.
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Italy manager Roberto Mancini was very confident in winning the match against North Macedonia. Fortunately things didn't happen as planned. It was bad luck for Italy and luck turned towards Portugal. Italy was in a compulsion to win the match and they're very sure to win. The team never thought of a second option. This loss once again leaves Italians watching one of the biggest soccer tournament for the straight second time.

Surely the opponent they challenged was quite modest and not one of the most famous teams.
And... Italy is currently the holder of the title of champion of Europe!
It is definitely not a team that has leaned on its results.
There can be a moment of distraction. But as always in these games, they try to get the maximum result with the minimum effort.

Unfortunately it did not go as it should go (I say this as an Italian and as a fan).
Unfortunately (really bad) nothing will change at the top of the Italian Football Federation despite the shock at national level.
(Maybe Mancini will left ? but this is not a result)

Now there is a friendly against Turkey ... it will be interesting to see the approach of the players, even if completely useless for any further competition Sad ...
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The results of the Africa zone world cup qualifier last night brought together two of Liferpol's mainstay players, namely Moh Salah and Sadio Mane, playing at Egypt's home ground, an own goal helped Egypt beat Senegal, although Egypt managed to beat Senegal on its own page, Egypt is not safe yet, because it is still there is a second leg, on the 30th Egypt must travel to Senegal's headquarters, Egypt only needs a draw to qualify for the world cup, but Senegal will definitely not let their dreams stop, Senegal will definitely work super extra to qualify for the Qatar world cup, we should wait, can Senegal turn things around???

It would have been so shameful if Egypt had allowed Senegal to win in their home and to defeat them the second again after the AFCON tournament. Egypt had no choice than to win the mache by every means, it was not easy for them because Senegal was also tough at some point. I can't tell how the next game will be , it will be tough and very Interesting.

The chance of the two teams the same as anyone who won was just lucky
Egypt does well take the opportunity at the right time I was not surprised Egypt giving a surprise in the next match
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Portugal played better than Turkey in the first half, but Turkey was better in the second half.
Burak Yilmaz missed a penalty, maybe we would have won the match if he hadn't missed it.
C.Ronaldo was unlucky.

Italy surprised everyone Sad
In the first half Portugal really pressed Turkey and they did very well because they created some chances and managed to put them 2-0 up without replying at the start of the half, when going into the second half Turkey tried to attack the Portugal defense and thanks to that attack the Turkish players could scored 1 goal so that the Portuguese players looked a little difficult in the second half, but unfortunately after Burak Yilmaz missed a penalty, the mentality of the Turkish players decreased and they had to accept a 3-1 defeat until the match was over.

I agree that in the first half Portugal played very well and kept pressing Turkey until they scored two goals. Even I thought the game was over
because of Portugal's excellent game. Therefore I think in the second half the same thing will happen as in the first half, it was quite surprising
in the second half Turkey was more daring to attack and put pressure on. Until finally in the 65th minute Burak Yilmaz managed to score a goal
and make the Turkish players more motivated, luck for Turkey came not long after. Because of the violation committed by the Portuguese
defender Turkey finally got a penalty kick.

Unfortunately, Burak Yilmaz, who is believed to be the executor, failed to score a goal through a penalty kick. Even though I think Hakan
Calhanoglu should have taken the penalty kick, who had a better technique than Yilmaz. Maybe because Yilmaz is more senior and experienced,
he can execute penalties calmly, in fact Yilmaz kicks over the crossbar. After Turkey failed to score a goal through a penalty, it was very visible
that the Turkish players confidence had decreased slightly, and this was used by Portugal to take over the game again and managed to score
a goal in the 94th minute which ensured Portugal's victory.
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Should have, but didn't. AFCON showed us we should all be betting on under 1.5 goals for matches and I thought I would venture a few bets even on an acca but didn't find the balls for it eventually. Shame.

As expected, Burak Yilmaz announced his retirement from the national team today. He has 31 goals in 77 games, a feat surpassed only by Hakan Sukur.

I really feel sorry for him, this is a horrible way to go. Basically his last touch in international football was a missed penalty that kicked Turkey from the World Cup.

Sport can sometimes be really cruel - he was great for Turkey over the years and there is a chance that he'll be remembered most by this miss.

Yeah, I lost a Turkey outright but that's not as important as seeing a player you've followed over the years in an underdog capacity to finally go. That penalty gone in and he could be facing down N Macedonia.

Sports is cruel, football even more so but don't worry. For years I thought I'd remember Gerrard's worst possible turnout in his final game for Liverpool but I don't think anyone remembers that now with his career. Yilmaz will have many sunny days in front.
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Having Italy be the best team in the entire euro cup, but then get them eliminated from the World Cup must be a huge shock to anyone in the world. Sure they played badly and deserved it when you watch the game, but that was unexpected before the game started and everyone is in shock for sure. Portugal got a bit lucky as well, they were 2-1 ahead and then Burak Yılmaz missed a penalty to make it 2-2 and lost that chance.

The result was 3-1 because Turkey was attacking to get another goal so hardly, if it was 2-2 they wouldn't have such a bad defense for sure. In the end we could had two upsets in one night. Portugal would definitely beat macedonia and be greater for sure.
Bad moment coming to Italy on group stage qualification because they have easy against country on their group but failed finish with 1st standing position place, after moment winning Europe Cup, Italy have drop perform and ever get draw always on group stage qualification before have to play on play off match against North Macedonia. Now back to back Italy without have participant on FIFA World Cup after last event they failed drop to world cup and not get the same thing again. I see Italy have difficulty on central forward position where not any potential player there except Immobile only.
Italy's bad moment began when it failed to beat Switzerland when the Italian national team underwent a life and death match against Switzerland in the seventh matchday of Group C 2022 World Cup Qualification in the European zone on November 12, 2021. If you win in that match, Italy will automatically qualify for the 2022 World Cup.
Italy's chance to win is very big, considering the match was held at home. However, Italy failed to take advantage of the home game after the match ended in a draw. Then in the final match of the group phase, Italy only played 1-1 against Northern Ireland when Switzerland overthrew Bulgaria 4-0. because the runner-up Finish made the Italian national team bounce into the playoffs.
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Having Italy be the best team in the entire euro cup, but then get them eliminated from the World Cup must be a huge shock to anyone in the world. Sure they played badly and deserved it when you watch the game, but that was unexpected before the game started and everyone is in shock for sure. Portugal got a bit lucky as well, they were 2-1 ahead and then Burak Yılmaz missed a penalty to make it 2-2 and lost that chance.

The result was 3-1 because Turkey was attacking to get another goal so hardly, if it was 2-2 they wouldn't have such a bad defense for sure. In the end we could had two upsets in one night. Portugal would definitely beat macedonia and be greater for sure.
Bad moment coming to Italy on group stage qualification because they have easy against country on their group but failed finish with 1st standing position place, after moment winning Europe Cup, Italy have drop perform and ever get draw always on group stage qualification before have to play on play off match against North Macedonia. Now back to back Italy without have participant on FIFA World Cup after last event they failed drop to world cup and not get the same thing again. I see Italy have difficulty on central forward position where not any potential player there except Immobile only.
Italy deserved to win the game against North Macedonia because they had like thirty shots and they possessed the game in most of the half. Imagine a team like North Macedonia coming in to upset their game in the added time of ninety minutes. I'm sure Robert Mancini did not see that one coming; being eliminated from the FIFA world cup.
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