2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 136.

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Quote from: tarable on March 26, 2022, 01:48:00 PM

no one thought that Italy had to lose its place in the world cup because it lost against North Macedonia. Of course, people don't think because there are many factors favored in Italy such as the defending European Cup champion and great players who strengthen the great clubs in the world.
Macedonia qualified because they were lucky, because during the match, Italy won in everything from shots to ball possession.

i was very favorite to italy in almost every world cup, but they were unlucky for the second time (didn't make it through to the world cup). against Portugal later, I'm sure the Macedonian squad have a great spirit because they managed to get rid of a team as big as Italy, Macedonia is really very lucky.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on March 26, 2022, 03:19:31 PM

Portugal is the favorite to qualify for the World Cup, they will face North Macedonia who previously succeeded in silencing Italy. North Macedonia is predicted to be difficult for Portugal again, they are having a lot of confidence and they are one step away from achieving their dream of qualifying for their first World Cup if they beat Portugal even though it is very difficult. But on the other hand, Portugal should not take it lightly, otherwise North Macedonia will make Portugal languish like Italy.

Now with the exit of Italy most chances Portugal is going to be qualifier for World Cup but as we have shocking result from Macedonia nothing is sure quality of game is improving, and we can expect some good challenge from these teams which were not good in last few years now suddenly they are giving their best and exit of Italy is fair example of this quality from country like Macedonia.

After having shocking result of Italy vs Macedonia most chances Portugal will never take this match easily because they know this can break their dreams for reaching into World cup but now all eyes on this match as both teams are facing each other after 10 years with last time match was ended into goalless draw let's watch now what happen and who is going to Qatar.

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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

Actually Portugal is not performing very well, but still Macedonia is a very weak team. I still think about how they got past Italy, I think they were pretty lucky. The whole country must have prayed for them to pass the tour Cheesy

All Macedonia is motivated for the match, they will play with all their strength against Portugal. But I still don't think they will win

Imagine seeing North Macedonia going to World Cup while Italy and Portugal eliminated. Telling this will be a bad joke.
Luck occurs once upon a time, but twice successively, well it is very hard.
Poland - Sweden will be the toughest match imo, Portugal and Wales have easier opponents whether it will be Ukraine or Scotland for Wales.

I imagine that every Macedonian country must be very motivated and hopeful to win the game, but I wonder if they could see what the bookmakers think if they would be motivated, why these odds? this is definitely exaggerated:

Portugal = @1.20

North Macedonia = @15.00

any North Macedonian guy seeing this is sure to lose motivation

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All y'all seeing another suprised win from Macedonia against Portugal should wake up from sleep, Italy had a lots of chances, they underrated Macedonia, had it been Macedonia scored maybe in the first half or early second half Italy would have been more serious, they felt Macedonia would have been an easy win, Portugal is so lucky to meet Macedonia, Italy would have been a though match with Portugal

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Now in the status of European champions Grin

In general, I think that the champions of Europe, Africa, South America, etc. must receive a ticket to the World Cup directly. It is rather strange that the champion of the strongest championship (European) misses the World Championship. Maybe this is logical from the point of view of the qualifying tournament system, but I don’t like such result at all.

Its not a bad idea, but if they do that we can have a lot of countrys playing for nothings.

Lets me do an example in the CONMEBOL.

Argentina organized the xxxx year world cup

Brasil its the champions of the before American Cup.

SO Argentina and Brasil cant play the qualifiers because they are already IN. So who can watch the Conmebol qualifiers without the two giants?

Its a big commercial problem.

What do you see as a commercial problem? This is exactly the variety that FIFA is fighting for - a lot of "middle" teams are fighting for victory in the qualifying tournament and it's quite interesting. Or do you think that the matches Argentina - Venezuela or Brazil - Bolivia are super interesting? Grin

But when I don’t see European champions (the strongest regional championship) at the World Championships - I think only one thing: WTF FIFA?

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Quote from: Altryist on March 26, 2022, 01:35:32 PM

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Here are the quotes for the games on Tuesday:
Portugal vs Macedonia 1.19/6.75/17.0
Poland vs Sweden 2.5/2.95/3.1
The quotes for Portugal are very similar to the Italy vs Macedonia game this week. I don't think we will see such a surprise a second time in a row. (Although it's not impossible)
Poland with their home advantage is considered slightly stronger than Sweden, but it will be a tight game.

What are the news about the 3rd open spot? Scotland has to play Ukraine, but due to the war this game has been postponed. The winner will have to play Wales for the last spot. I hope they can play those games without much delay...

Macedonia is great, but I think a victory over Italy will be enough for them. Portugal will be able to draw conclusions from this game and try to score a quick goal, so as not to bring the outcome of the match to the last minutes, when on the nerves you can make a fatal mistake. In the match with Italy, the difference in class was simply huge, but as it sometimes happens in football, if you don’t score them - they score to you. Italy simply failed to realize their chances, Portugal will confidently win.

Yes, Portugal is the favorite to qualify for the World Cup, they will face North Macedonia who previously succeeded in silencing Italy. North Macedonia is predicted to be difficult for Portugal again, they are having a lot of confidence and they are one step away from achieving their dream of qualifying for their first World Cup if they beat Portugal even though it is very difficult. But on the other hand, Portugal should not take it lightly, otherwise North Macedonia will make Portugal languish like Italy.

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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

Actually Portugal is not performing very well, but still Macedonia is a very weak team. I still think about how they got past Italy, I think they were pretty lucky. The whole country must have prayed for them to pass the tour Cheesy

All Macedonia is motivated for the match, they will play with all their strength against Portugal. But I still don't think they will win

mecadonia come full of enthusiasm and motivation I'm sure they will do anything until the last second. For Portugal it is necessary to be aware of the opposing team and play carefully. Anything can happen, what is certain is that Portuguese players don't want to end up like Italy. If Portugal underestimates Mecadonia I think it will end up like Italy. If this happens then this year's world cup will be weird without the superstar Christian Ronaldo.

Even enthusiasm has its limits most of the time it comes down to skill rather than effort i am sure macedonia team will play a good game but i doubt they will perform as they did against italy most of their players are not used to high level games so it will be difficult to stay at the same level as lost game.

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North Macedonia know the quality of Italy players that's why since first half they were playing totally defence and they able to manage it until second half and makes Italy players looks frustrate especially North Macedonia goalkeeper Dimitrievski playing so well and for me he deserve as man of the match and Italy was not focus at the end of second half and this can be put to good use by North Macedonia to score and it was ironic that the champion of Europe cup failed went to world cup

I never thought that Italy would be losing this game against North Macedonia and i was a bit shocked when i have readed the news and seen the result.
Unlucky that they got this one decisive goal in the overtime , i have seen the review of the game and the goalkeeper hasnt looked good when they got the goal.
Austria and Turkey are also got kicked out of the chance to get to the World Cup.

For the first time in history, Italy failed to qualify for the World Cup in two successive editions. The defeat of North Macedonia was also widely rated by the Italian media as one of the darkest results in the history of Piza football. The status of European champions makes Italy the seeded team in the semifinals of the 2022 World Cup play-offs against North Macedonia. Italy is predicted to beat North Macedonia which is the caretaker when appearing in the group phase of Euro 2020. However, a surprise occurred. Italy, which is the European champion, was defeated in front of North Macedonia. This is a result that is difficult for many to predict, but it is interesting that football always produces something dramatic, Italy in tears, North Macedonia on its mission to qualify for the World Cup for the first time.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on March 26, 2022, 11:28:43 AM

For the European qualifiers, I believe that the biggest disappointment has been Italy. I didn't expect Turkey to eliminate Portugal already. Actually they still did a good job and found even a big chance to equalize the score. But they failed and Portugal advanced to the last round. But nearly all people expected Italy to eliminate North Macedonia easily. And they had a solid performance to do so too. But here we are and they are out of the World Cup after losing by 1-0. It must be like a dream for their opponent to get past them.

no one thought that Italy had to lose its place in the world cup because it lost against North Macedonia. Of course, people don't think because there are many factors favored in Italy such as the defending European Cup champion and great players who strengthen the great clubs in the world.
Macedonia qualified because they were lucky, because during the match, Italy won in everything from shots to ball possession.

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Quote from: coco23 on March 26, 2022, 12:11:47 PM

Here are the quotes for the games on Tuesday:
Portugal vs Macedonia 1.19/6.75/17.0
Poland vs Sweden 2.5/2.95/3.1
The quotes for Portugal are very similar to the Italy vs Macedonia game this week. I don't think we will see such a surprise a second time in a row. (Although it's not impossible)
Poland with their home advantage is considered slightly stronger than Sweden, but it will be a tight game.

What are the news about the 3rd open spot? Scotland has to play Ukraine, but due to the war this game has been postponed. The winner will have to play Wales for the last spot. I hope they can play those games without much delay...

Macedonia is great, but I think a victory over Italy will be enough for them. Portugal will be able to draw conclusions from this game and try to score a quick goal, so as not to bring the outcome of the match to the last minutes, when on the nerves you can make a fatal mistake. In the match with Italy, the difference in class was simply huge, but as it sometimes happens in football, if you don’t score them - they score to you. Italy simply failed to realize their chances, Portugal will confidently win.

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Quote from: Bloodseekers on March 26, 2022, 12:27:10 PM

mecadonia come full of enthusiasm and motivation I'm sure they will do anything until the last second. For Portugal it is necessary to be aware of the opposing team and play carefully. Anything can happen, what is certain is that Portuguese players don't want to end up like Italy. If Portugal underestimates Mecadonia I think it will end up like Italy. If this happens then this year's world cup will be weird without the superstar Christian Ronaldo.

After successfully getting rid of Italy, the North Macedonian national team is very confident against Portugal, they are of course very ambitious to win a ticket to qualify for the World Cup for the first time. But in that decisive match, Portugal was the favorite to win, even so Portugal should not take the North Macedonia national team lightly, Football is not a mathematically determined result, sometimes everything can happen beyond the predictions of observers.

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Quote from: onetwostep on March 26, 2022, 11:52:51 AM

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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

Actually Portugal is not performing very well, but still Macedonia is a very weak team. I still think about how they got past Italy, I think they were pretty lucky. The whole country must have prayed for them to pass the tour Cheesy

All Macedonia is motivated for the match, they will play with all their strength against Portugal. But I still don't think they will win

Imagine seeing North Macedonia going to World Cup while Italy and Portugal eliminated. Telling this will be a bad joke.
Luck occurs once upon a time, but twice successively, well it is very hard.
Poland - Sweden will be the toughest match imo, Portugal and Wales have easier opponents whether it will be Ukraine or Scotland for Wales.

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Both Argentina and Brazil are great teams, but all these matches without defeats they are only with teams from South America.
The real test for them will be when they will play with Portugal, Germany, France, Croatia. Yes, in general, for any European team with a balanced squad and disciplined players.
Although we must admit that Argentina has a very good generation - Messi, di Maria. If Messi and his team don't win the World Cup this time, then he probably won't have any more chances.

Argentina humiliate Veneuezla yesterday after a 3-0 win. The game was only control by one team, both in the first and second half. In the second half, it became hot for Veneuezla because Argentina didn't hold back instead they focus on more goal-scoring chances which they actually scored. They dominated the game with 73% ball possession and Veneuezla only managing 27% and failed to record only 1 shot on target against Argentina. Venezuela played a defensive game but couldn't hold on within time not to concede more goals. Di marria and Messi send them back to trenches in the second half. The Argentines are looking above limit to qualify for the 2022 world cup. Leo Messi and Angel Di marriage are statically fit and inform for the upcoming fixtures, and I believe this could be the last world cup for the duo.

I think this Argentine team is very strong, they can go very far in the World Cup, looking at the table:

the difference between brazil and argentina in relation to the other teams is very big, this shows a great superiority of these two teams, but I am disappointed with uruguay, I expected them to at least finish in 3rd position, they have good players and even then not managed to get to the 3rd position

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Quote from: emrecemsan on March 26, 2022, 11:28:43 AM

For the European qualifiers, I believe that the biggest disappointment has been Italy. I didn't expect Turkey to eliminate Portugal already. Actually they still did a good job and found even a big chance to equalize the score. But they failed and Portugal advanced to the last round. But nearly all people expected Italy to eliminate North Macedonia easily. And they had a solid performance to do so too. But here we are and they are out of the World Cup after losing by 1-0. It must be like a dream for their opponent to get past them.

This was truly an unexpected result. It's unbelievable how a team like Italy can't participate in the world cup. Italy is one of the teams I wanted to watch in the World Cup.
There is not much to comment for Turkey, they missed a great opportunity. We didn't expect them to win, but maybe we won't be able to participate in the World Cup because of a simple mistake. Turkey had a squad that could win against Macedonia

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I felt sorry for especially Italy and Turkey yesterday. Italy played a game that they had the control of from the beginning to the end. But North Macedonia somehow performed a miracle against Italy and scored the winning goal. And they are one step closer to the World Cup while Italy are out of it completely. Italy were devastated after this result despite all that effort. And the Portugal - Turkey game was really exciting especially at one point. Portugal got 2-0 ahead but Turkey made it 2-1. After that, Turkey got a crucial opportunity by a penalty to score the equalizer. Burak had a big responsibility there but he missed it. And after a loss of self-confidence, Portugal scored one more goal and won by 3-1. It was the turning point of the game for them.

I didn't watch the match, but I read about it and they say it really was a dramatic game.
It is quite controversial to receive the news that the reigning Euro Cup champion will be left out of the world cup for the second time.

I honestly think the points system is much fairer, where a single result and a few strokes of luck aren't enough to eliminate a good team from the world cup.
Anyway, I bet Macedonia will not have the same luck against Portugal, or could I be wrong?

I don't think that North Macedonia can do the same against Portugal as well. They got very lucky against Italy certainly. Italy took control of the game from the start but they still couldn't score a goal despite having 30+ goal attempts. It must be the most unlucky day for Italy and the players were so sad after being eliminated by a weak opponent. But I'm not expecting North Macedonia's luck to exist against Portugal too. Portugal would score an early goal and win by 1-0 or 2-0 I think.

I agree that Macedonia is lucky against Italy. Had they had a few more accurate shots, they could have scored 3-4 goals in this match. Macedonia, who had a very good defense, managed to win this match. You can see that they are very lucky for this in their joy after the goal. If they can eliminate Portugal with the same chance, they can be the most surprise team of the world cup. My favorite is Portugal.

North Macedonia's luck was created because at the end of extra time in the 90+2 minute, the goal came from Aleksandar Trajkovski.
because usually goals that occur at the end of the game will be difficult to reply because of time, in contrast to the time that is still a lot, because there will be changes in strategy and players to be able to reply.
Italy were unlucky and had 5 shots on goal against North Macedonia but no goals were scored, and this will not happen with Portugal as Ronaldo will definitely score and it is likely Macedonia will use the same strategy when they managed to beat Italy.

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It was like a nightmare for Italy really. Who would have expected them to lose to North Macedonia like this? I didn't for example and it was completely normal to think so. Because there was an obvious gap between these teams and North Macedonia had nothing to do other than trying to defend them until the final whistle. And they really did it somehow. Their goal in the last minute was very disappointing for Italy and they couldn't answer to this goal unfortunately. Italy must have been among the biggest candidates for the title but they are not even in the World Cup.

Italy have failed to qualify for world cups twice in a row, 2018 and 2022, and it's the first time in their history. It's quite unfortunate for them after winning Euro 2020. They beat England to win the cup. Italy worst nightmare was when they got Eliminated from the world cup for the second time. Though they put in their best, you needed to see how hungry for a goal they were in the game between North Macedonia. Their defeat was shocking and unbelievable, despite playing and dominated the game. North Macedonia didn't come after possession but rather came after a goal, they played a defensive football and scored at stoppage time. My sympathy for Italy, for I know how badly they needed to qualify. The player that is emotionally down when they lost to North Macedonia was Marco Verratti, in his last 5 games both at club and country.
3-1 lost to Nantes
1-0 lost to Nice
3-1 lost to Real Madrid
3-0 lost to Monanco
1-0 lost to North Macedonia
Marco Verratti had failed to record a win in these 5 games. While on the other hand is Jorginho, who has never feature in a world cup for Italy. Bad news for both the players and the Country.

Thank you for sharing this interesting statistics. It seems like some of their players are really unlucky in the recent times and the same thing is happening for their games of their national team also. North Macedonia had their best match ever undoubtedly. I don't mean that they played something here but the result will be unforgettable for them. And the more unforgettable thing for them would be to eliminate another huge competitor like Portugal in last round of the playoffs. It would be a historical moment for them like this one.

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Quote from: 3meek on March 26, 2022, 05:01:37 AM

In the South American qualifiers, Brazil and Argentina are unrivalled... Both teams have yet to lose 16 games in a row, indicating excellent preparation for the World Cup! I think both teams will aim high in the upcoming World Cup! It's a long time since either side have had a coveted cup... Of course there are many very strong teams in Europe too, but I would like to see Brazil or Argentina in the final!

They have quite capable players and they are also one of the national teams which is quite seen from the history and the players so it is very natural for them to perform well because if they don't, they will surely receive criticism from various parties as in previous years.
It looks like the current World Cup will be even more interesting to look forward to. Moreover, the national teams that will be playing seem to be almost completely ready now

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Quote from: onetwostep on March 26, 2022, 11:52:51 AM

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Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

Actually Portugal is not performing very well, but still Macedonia is a very weak team. I still think about how they got past Italy, I think they were pretty lucky. The whole country must have prayed for them to pass the tour Cheesy

All Macedonia is motivated for the match, they will play with all their strength against Portugal. But I still don't think they will win

mecadonia come full of enthusiasm and motivation I'm sure they will do anything until the last second. For Portugal it is necessary to be aware of the opposing team and play carefully. Anything can happen, what is certain is that Portuguese players don't want to end up like Italy. If Portugal underestimates Mecadonia I think it will end up like Italy. If this happens then this year's world cup will be weird without the superstar Christian Ronaldo.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on March 26, 2022, 11:28:43 AM

For the European qualifiers, I believe that the biggest disappointment has been Italy. I didn't expect Turkey to eliminate Portugal already. Actually they still did a good job and found even a big chance to equalize the score. But they failed and Portugal advanced to the last round. But nearly all people expected Italy to eliminate North Macedonia easily. And they had a solid performance to do so too. But here we are and they are out of the World Cup after losing by 1-0. It must be like a dream for their opponent to get past them.

What became my highlight was Donaruma, after he moved to PSG, and left AC Milan he really had bad luck, at PSG he was unable to play full time, while in the second leg of the champions league Donnarumma was nudged by Karim Banzema, in the world cup qualifier Donnarumma Lost by Macedonia, it's a shame that a country full of star players has twice failed to get a chance to play in the world cup.

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Quote from: onetwostep on March 26, 2022, 11:52:51 AM

Quote from: Ratash on March 26, 2022, 08:05:49 AM

Portugal will face north macedonia in the final round of qualification even if the macedonia team managed to beat italy i think thats all they can do i think portugal will qualify without problems because i think portugal managed to get through that serbia loss and difficult situation they were in and they did a good job bring new young players and they proved they deserve playing for portugal.

Actually Portugal is not performing very well, but still Macedonia is a very weak team. I still think about how they got past Italy, I think they were pretty lucky. The whole country must have prayed for them to pass the tour Cheesy

All Macedonia is motivated for the match, they will play with all their strength against Portugal. But I still don't think they will win

Here are the quotes for the games on Tuesday:
Portugal vs Macedonia 1.19/6.75/17.0
Poland vs Sweden 2.5/2.95/3.1
The quotes for Portugal are very similar to the Italy vs Macedonia game this week. I don't think we will see such a surprise a second time in a row. (Although it's not impossible)
Poland with their home advantage is considered slightly stronger than Sweden, but it will be a tight game.

What are the news about the 3rd open spot? Scotland has to play Ukraine, but due to the war this game has been postponed. The winner will have to play Wales for the last spot. I hope they can play those games without much delay...

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