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Topic: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 139. (Read 35015 times)

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It was like a nightmare for Italy really. Who would have expected them to lose to North Macedonia like this? I didn't for example and it was completely normal to think so. Because there was an obvious gap between these teams and North Macedonia had nothing to do other than trying to defend them until the final whistle. And they really did it somehow. Their goal in the last minute was very disappointing for Italy and they couldn't answer to this goal unfortunately. Italy must have been among the biggest candidates for the title but they are not even in the World Cup.
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I've only just seen the statistics and they are brutal. 16 to 0 corners, that's unbelievable. Or 32 to 4 goal attempts, that can't be true..... how can you not score a goal with that? And that Italy is out as European-Champion is just as unbelievable.
This style off football where not important about how dominance on ball possession with how much percentage controlling, then with how many ever corner kick got by Italy until with brutal 32 shots and have 4 attempt but they can't scoring 1 goal, except with North Macedonia play with defensive way but most effective when counter attack and create amazing goal from out penalty kick box. Now Italy as European champion missing to World Cup on Qatar and waiting final match later between Portugal vs North Macedonia to know who locked one place for World Cup, will Macedonia make new achievement for playing on world cup?
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Its a shocking result but we have seen some surprises in football were big teams lost to much weaker opponents seems that italian footbal is having a rough time lately despite the euro win who should give them a positive boost they showed poor performance since then.

I don't think the problem is because of the players or the coach they did what they were supposed to do but still lose
Instead I think it's related to luck I believe sometimes luck can change the final result and this is what happened in this match
If the match is replayed not sure North Macedonia will win again.
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Its a shocking result but we have seen some surprises in football were big teams lost to much weaker opponents seems that italian footbal is having a rough time lately despite the euro win who should give them a positive boost they showed poor performance since then.

When it comes to Italy we can't really say shocking result as they missed plenty of other big tournaments lately. Smiley
They can't participate World Cup two times in a row. Funny thing is they are the last European champion. Actually it should be a wild card for latest winners of continental championship. That way they don't have to play elimination games and that would be a good prize for cup winners.
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Italy - North Macedonia
In this match, I see no other option than a convincing victory for the hosts. Nobody needs to be convinced about the class of the Italian national team. Additionally, in the visiting team, their best player Eljif Elmas has a break cause of the cards. I think the Italians will take the lead quickly and I will be in control of the game while saving myself for a likely match against Portugal in the next stage.

The victory of North Macedonia is a real sensation. Take a look at the statistics:



Second World Cup in a row without Italians. Unimaginable. If their defeat with Sweden was "the end of football world" for them, what about North Macedonia, less than a year after winning the European Championship.
Its a shocking result but we have seen some surprises in football were big teams lost to much weaker opponents seems that italian footbal is having a rough time lately despite the euro win who should give them a positive boost they showed poor performance since then.
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Portugal really took control of the first half very early and scored two goals. But there were a really different Turkey in the other half. And as their goal to drop the gap to one came not too late, the game started to become much more interesting. And that penalty was too critical for a comeback but Portugal took a deep breath later. I was expecting Portugal to beat Turkey but I was contented with the level of competition in this game. It was more enjoyable than the Italy game for sure. And by the way, it was a huge shock for Italy to be out of the tournament.
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For real what a shame, second time Italy is out from world cup....
Now in the status of European champions  Grin
In general, I think that the champions of Europe, Africa, South America, etc. must receive a ticket to the World Cup directly. It is rather strange that the champion of the strongest championship (European) misses the World Championship. Maybe this is logical from the point of view of the qualifying tournament system, but I don’t like such result at all.
I am not agreed with this suggestion because current selection system is best for this mega event around the globe just home team and defending champions are allowed to have their spots and others need to do pass this all process which give all teams an equal chance now many other sports authorities also going through with this system because they are feeling comfortable with this all and no one can object with any things about spot in world cup.

Now, European Champions out of this World Cup second time in a row and a team which was not in limelight having full chance of qualification if they beat Portugal like this is surely beauty and merit of this game with this option any new team can go through in World Cup and having their best option for winning this event as well because it's all open for all teams around the world.
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Portugal played better than Turkey in the first half, but Turkey was better in the second half.
Burak Yilmaz missed a penalty, maybe we would have won the match if he hadn't missed it.
C.Ronaldo was unlucky.


Italy surprised everyone Sad
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Second World Cup in a row without Italians. Unimaginable. If their defeat with Sweden was "the end of football world" for them, what about North Macedonia, less than a year after winning the European Championship.

I've only just seen the statistics and they are brutal. 16 to 0 corners, that's unbelievable. Or 32 to 4 goal attempts, that can't be true..... how can you not score a goal with that? And that Italy is out as European-Champion is just as unbelievable.
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It has hit many people hard that Italy is not going to the World Cup. Admittedly, if they had won against North Macedonia they would still have to beat Portugal, also a difficult route. But losing 0-1 to North Macedonia is a disaster. Although they also won 0-1 in Germany once, so that they can still play football was already proven. Italy was not there at the 2018 World Cup either, and now they are even reigning European Champions. What a pity for the Italians.

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For real what a shame, second time Italy is out from world cup....

Now in the status of European champions  Grin
In general, I think that the champions of Europe, Africa, South America, etc. must receive a ticket to the World Cup directly. It is rather strange that the champion of the strongest championship (European) misses the World Championship. Maybe this is logical from the point of view of the qualifying tournament system, but I don’t like such result at all.

Its not a bad idea, but if they do that we can have a lot of countrys playing for nothings.

Lets me do an example in the CONMEBOL.

Argentina organized the xxxx year world cup

Brasil its the champions of the before American Cup.

SO Argentina and Brasil cant play the qualifiers because they are already IN. So who can watch the Conmebol qualifiers without the two giants?

Its a big commercial problem.
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For real what a shame, second time Italy is out from world cup....

Now in the status of European champions  Grin
In general, I think that the champions of Europe, Africa, South America, etc. must receive a ticket to the World Cup directly. It is rather strange that the champion of the strongest championship (European) misses the World Championship. Maybe this is logical from the point of view of the qualifying tournament system, but I don’t like such result at all.
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I was also sad to see my country losing to Portugal like that. Actually I didn't believe in Turkey to even become close to eliminating them. But after seeing the score as 2-1 and the penalty chance, I was really excited about a possibility for us. But unfortunately, we didn't make it after not benefiting from this chance. I'm still not very angry at them as they didn't play too badly. If they had a very poor performance in attacking, then I would be very furious now. Because I don't want them to play scaredly. It hinders a team from winning a game.
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The victory of North Macedonia is a real sensation. Take a look at the statistics:


The situation in which the next World Cup will be held without the participation of the current European champion is a bit ironic. But you must admit that the champions should not have allowed situations when they have to participate in qualifying play-off in order to go to the playoffs. But when it happened, then this statistic should have been realized in a few goals scored. Congratulations to the team of North Macedonia, this is a very good result!
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I felt sorry for especially Italy and Turkey yesterday. Italy played a game that they had the control of from the beginning to the end. But North Macedonia somehow performed a miracle against Italy and scored the winning goal. And they are one step closer to the World Cup while Italy are out of it completely. Italy were devastated after this result despite all that effort. And the Portugal - Turkey game was really exciting especially at one point. Portugal got 2-0 ahead but Turkey made it 2-1. After that, Turkey got a crucial opportunity by a penalty to score the equalizer. Burak had a big responsibility there but he missed it. And after a loss of self-confidence, Portugal scored one more goal and won by 3-1. It was the turning point of the game for them.

I didn't watch the match, but I read about it and they say it really was a dramatic game.
It is quite controversial to receive the news that the reigning Euro Cup champion will be left out of the world cup for the second time.

I honestly think the points system is much fairer, where a single result and a few strokes of luck aren't enough to eliminate a good team from the world cup.
Anyway, I bet Macedonia will not have the same luck against Portugal, or could I be wrong?
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I felt sorry for especially Italy and Turkey yesterday. Italy played a game that they had the control of from the beginning to the end. But North Macedonia somehow performed a miracle against Italy and scored the winning goal. And they are one step closer to the World Cup while Italy are out of it completely. Italy were devastated after this result despite all that effort. And the Portugal - Turkey game was really exciting especially at one point. Portugal got 2-0 ahead but Turkey made it 2-1. After that, Turkey got a crucial opportunity by a penalty to score the equalizer. Burak had a big responsibility there but he missed it. And after a loss of self-confidence, Portugal scored one more goal and won by 3-1. It was the turning point of the game for them.
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So now without Italy who will you support in Qatar?
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Italy - North Macedonia
In this match, I see no other option than a convincing victory for the hosts. Nobody needs to be convinced about the class of the Italian national team. Additionally, in the visiting team, their best player Eljif Elmas has a break cause of the cards. I think the Italians will take the lead quickly and I will be in control of the game while saving myself for a likely match against Portugal in the next stage.

The victory of North Macedonia is a real sensation. Take a look at the statistics:


Second World Cup in a row without Italians. Unimaginable. If their defeat with Sweden was "the end of football world" for them, what about North Macedonia, less than a year after winning the European Championship.
For Italy to not make it to the World Cup two editions in a row when they have such a long tradition of being one of the best national teams around the world this is without a doubt cause of preoccupation.

After all they are not a bad team, as they are the European Champions but something is not clicking for them at the time of the qualifiers, now without a doubt the European zone is the most difficult place to qualify, but still this is inexcusable, however for the next World Cup the number of teams that make it to the tournament will go from 32 to 48, making it easier for a team like Italy to make it to the 2026 edition of the World Cup.
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The bookies just made a huge sum from Italy match, lots of people ticket would pick italy with the hope that they will win, no one could be able to bank huge on the fact that Macedonia is gonna win , its just a high risk gambler who would stake huge on it, Italy will miss another world cup tournament in a row, European Champion unbelievable!!!
Bookies get a lot of money and make a lot of coffers of money, because all of them place bets for Italy's victory, Macedonia will meet Portugal in the final, does anyone dare to bet on Macedonia's victory?? Although Macedonia managed to make a surprise but I am optimistic that Macedonia will not beat Portugal, maybe Portugal's steps are getting easier to get a ticket to the Qatar world cup, I will bet on Portugal's victory with a 3-1 victory..
If Macedonia pull another suprise win against Portugal which I doubt they will, then I think the coach deserves a huge credit, because Macedonia dont have any star players to bank on, Italy did not capitalize on their chances that's why they lost, they were closer to draw in the 94th minutes but they had no luck, I believe that Portugal will ensure that they win from first half to avoid a shock lose against Macedonia
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The victory of North Macedonia is a real sensation. Take a look at the statistics:

Second World Cup in a row without Italians. Unimaginable. If their defeat with Sweden was "the end of football world" for them, what about North Macedonia, less than a year after winning the European Championship.
A real shock for everyone who watched the match and they way in which Italy was struggling to score a goal and then at the last minutes of the match, the stupid substitutions and i really could not believe that North Macedonia could score a goal in the last few minutes of the match and i lost a large amount of money as i included this match in a parlay and i really regret placing a bet for this match as the odds were really low Undecided.
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