2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 27.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 27, 2022, 08:15:46 AM

Nothing strange for Italy, because in a row they did not qualify for the world cup. however, which is unfortunate because they are finalists of the Euro 2020 champions.

yes Portugal is not a bad team, but their star icon is experiencing a very significant decline in performance. and it seems, it becomes a serious problem for Fernando Santos to maximize his troops later in the Qatar world cup.

As for the host of the world cup, Qatar is quite confident, but it is difficult for them to qualify for the next round. because after all, there is a very difficult Senegal for them to overthrow.
as well as the Netherlands which recently they are in a pretty solid performance even without the support of many star players.

Croatia, will still be one of the strong challengers because after all they are runners up for the 2018 world cup.
Lewandowski, Poland is in a pretty tough group. at least, they have to subvert Mexico, then draw against Argentina. however, it seems that scenario is difficult.

only counting the days we will welcome the performance of this most prestigious championship event.

It's always strange to see some "big" nation not qualifying for some big competition. But it happens. It happened to England few cycles ago when they didn't qualify for the World Cup or Euro. I'm not sure which one was it, but I remember them not qualifying because Croatia defeated them in London.

Since I'm from Croatia, I can comment about what I think our chances are in Qatar. It will be really hard for Croatia to repeat what happened in Russia. I'm not saying we don't have a chance, but it will be hard. We have some young players that have potential, but we will see how they'll perform under pressure.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2022, 09:45:27 PM

The problem is that they have too much money right now and they don't know what to do with it. The bid to purchase Barcelona was made by the Qatar Sports Investment (which is under the ownership of Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani). They own a few other clubs such as the Paris Saint-Germain (PSG). After the bid was turned down, the Qataris went crazy and invested a large amount of money on Barca's rivals (Espanyol). The Europeans are enjoying the show, as the Arabs waste their ill-earned wealth on ego-clashes.

Even this talk is going into wrong way, but I never understand them how they are managing things because no doubt money is no issue for them, and they can do anything with this all without any issue even after losing billions of USD in gambling or stuff like this they are having no issues most chances they could be done good thing in Gulf region as their personal competition is increasing first for tallest buildings and now having prestigious clubs in Europe they could be able to have their own leagues in good shape because of their own investments and having quality players which can do good development.

Still Qatar is currently the most advance country which is doing good things but their reputation in human rights and other topics are not good as they are the most conservative Arabs in this region after Saudi Arab which are now also trying to turn into Liberal.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on October 22, 2022, 03:44:11 PM

It remains a strange idea that we will not see the reigning European Champion Italy at the world championship. But it will happen anyway. Portugal is not a bad team either. Qatar is brimming with confidence, they are reigning Asian champions, but they are no match for the violence from Europe. Lewandowsky can also show how good he is at the World Cup in Qatar. I don't see Poland winning of course, but maybe they can knock out a favorite with Lewandowsky in the ranks. If I could choose an outsider, I would go for Croatia or the Netherlands.

Nothing strange for Italy, because in a row they did not qualify for the world cup. however, which is unfortunate because they are finalists of the Euro 2020 champions.

yes Portugal is not a bad team, but their star icon is experiencing a very significant decline in performance. and it seems, it becomes a serious problem for Fernando Santos to maximize his troops later in the Qatar world cup.

As for the host of the world cup, Qatar is quite confident, but it is difficult for them to qualify for the next round. because after all, there is a very difficult Senegal for them to overthrow.
as well as the Netherlands which recently they are in a pretty solid performance even without the support of many star players.

Croatia, will still be one of the strong challengers because after all they are runners up for the 2018 world cup.
Lewandowski, Poland is in a pretty tough group. at least, they have to subvert Mexico, then draw against Argentina. however, it seems that scenario is difficult.

only counting the days we will welcome the performance of this most prestigious championship event.

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Quote from: lixer on October 25, 2022, 12:16:35 PM

Interesting topic, they are doing this all for respect because I don't think they are looking for respect or anything related with this all because most of the Arab leaders are not well-educated, and they have mind that they can buy every thing with money which is surely working for them in England and France most of the premium clubs are already in their control even few months back they were trying to buy Barcelona but thanks to fans and investors this attempt ends in fail.

But, still they are doing things just because of money as we can watch now they are hosting world soccer club event and then Dubai race they are already bringing things with their money and with this all Western or American have no issue Mohammad bin Salman bought Newcastle United even there were many conflicts related to this person but still he has done because they can do things without going out of their country, so it's all money power.

The problem is that they have too much money right now and they don't know what to do with it. The bid to purchase Barcelona was made by the Qatar Sports Investment (which is under the ownership of Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani). They own a few other clubs such as the Paris Saint-Germain (PSG). After the bid was turned down, the Qataris went crazy and invested a large amount of money on Barca's rivals (Espanyol). The Europeans are enjoying the show, as the Arabs waste their ill-earned wealth on ego-clashes.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 24, 2022, 04:24:45 PM

It cannot be denied that football has become a source of profit for a large number of people if not most of them. For instance, if you look at teams like Chelsea or Manchester City, you will see that the method works. As a matter of fact, they are swimming in the pool of Arab money and whatnot. In addition to hosting these matches, Qatar is also using this opportunity to make some money from the event. Nowadays, money and football have become synonymous, and that is quite a sad thing that we have to deal with.

The game of football was once regarded as a symbol of creativity, love, and passion among many people. There is just money nowadays, and it has become a competition of who can generate the most revenue to be the biggest.

It is true that the Arab nations (especially Qatar) is swimming in wads of money. The LNG prices have gone up by 10x-20x in recent times, and Qatar is the no.1 beneficiary. Now they have realized that despite all that money, no one respects them because of their poor human rights record. So events such as world cup provides them with an opportunity to earn "respect". Purchasing premium clubs such as Chelsea and Manchester City was also a part of this plan, and according to them it has worked to a certain extent. And in today's world, people are more money minded and doesn't really care about human rights.

Interesting topic, they are doing this all for respect because I don't think they are looking for respect or anything related with this all because most of the Arab leaders are not well-educated, and they have mind that they can buy every thing with money which is surely working for them in England and France most of the premium clubs are already in their control even few months back they were trying to buy Barcelona but thanks to fans and investors this attempt ends in fail.

But, still they are doing things just because of money as we can watch now they are hosting world soccer club event and then Dubai race they are already bringing things with their money and with this all Western or American have no issue Mohammad bin Salman bought Newcastle United even there were many conflicts related to this person but still he has done because they can do things without going out of their country, so it's all money power.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 24, 2022, 04:24:45 PM

It cannot be denied that football has become a source of profit for a large number of people if not most of them. For instance, if you look at teams like Chelsea or Manchester City, you will see that the method works. As a matter of fact, they are swimming in the pool of Arab money and whatnot. In addition to hosting these matches, Qatar is also using this opportunity to make some money from the event. Nowadays, money and football have become synonymous, and that is quite a sad thing that we have to deal with.

The game of football was once regarded as a symbol of creativity, love, and passion among many people. There is just money nowadays, and it has become a competition of who can generate the most revenue to be the biggest.

It is true that the Arab nations (especially Qatar) is swimming in wads of money. The LNG prices have gone up by 10x-20x in recent times, and Qatar is the no.1 beneficiary. Now they have realized that despite all that money, no one respects them because of their poor human rights record. So events such as world cup provides them with an opportunity to earn "respect". Purchasing premium clubs such as Chelsea and Manchester City was also a part of this plan, and according to them it has worked to a certain extent. And in today's world, people are more money minded and doesn't really care about human rights.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 24, 2022, 04:24:45 PM

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It cannot be denied that football has become a source of profit for a large number of people if not most of them. For instance, if you look at teams like Chelsea or Manchester City, you will see that the method works. As a matter of fact, they are swimming in the pool of Arab money and whatnot. In addition to hosting these matches, Qatar is also using this opportunity to make some money from the event. Nowadays, money and football have become synonymous, and that is quite a sad thing that we have to deal with.

The game of football was once regarded as a symbol of creativity, love, and passion among many people. There is just money nowadays, and it has become a competition of who can generate the most revenue to be the biggest.

Yeah, that's true. But that also means that it's incredibly competitive. All players must perform at their highest levels to even be called to be on the pitch.

Anyone that performs below the expectations is quickly thrown out.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 22, 2022, 06:19:43 AM

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I really hope that the authorities of Qatar football realize that this is not just a revenue stream through which they will be able to make money. I hope they realize that they have a really good chance of showing the world what they can do in football. There should not only be a focus on getting money from this world cup, but also on having some people looking for really skilled players in Qatar as a result of this world cup. And I expect that the people of Qatar will also be very interested in football after this world cup happens.
It does feel sad that Italy did not qualify for the world cup. But I think that's okay. They are a capable team and they probably deserved to play in the world cup, but nothing can be done now.

I would like to think of football as something noble, but the reality is different.
Romantic football, in which money was not important, and clubs like Steaua or Crvena zvezda could be champions of Europe, lasted until 1991, when the Champions League started and profit became the most important thing.
It is clear that the main reason why Qatar's leaders decided to organize this world championship is solely for profit, and everything else, including sports motives, are irrelevant and that is the reality.
I believe that many neutral football fans are sorry that we will not see Italy again in this World Cup, but that is the reality and nothing can be changed.

It cannot be denied that football has become a source of profit for a large number of people if not most of them. For instance, if you look at teams like Chelsea or Manchester City, you will see that the method works. As a matter of fact, they are swimming in the pool of Arab money and whatnot. In addition to hosting these matches, Qatar is also using this opportunity to make some money from the event. Nowadays, money and football have become synonymous, and that is quite a sad thing that we have to deal with.

The game of football was once regarded as a symbol of creativity, love, and passion among many people. There is just money nowadays, and it has become a competition of who can generate the most revenue to be the biggest.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on October 22, 2022, 04:44:22 PM

Bad news for France with their defender Raphael Varane doubt participants on World Cu after get injury with his knee trough last games Chelsea vs Manchester United. Still not have official announcement yet between Manchester United and national team about Varane injury need how many weeks get recovery. I doubt he will miss chance fit on time because World Cup begin under 30 days later and actually national team preparing one or two weeks before World Cup start.

Should careful for other player how to get chance participant in World Cup with their national team depend league still running until few weeks later, almost league will stop at matchday 14 for La Liga on 10th November, almost two weeks later player with their team and need be careful if want participants at World Cup.

The information read wasn't as appropriate and accurate as it should be but what I think is that he will not feature for in the first two games, buy should be completely fit for the next round if they qualify. They are defending champions, so he is bitterd to see that he will be missing the World Cup. what the news says is that Varane will be available for man utd on the boxing day of December. This absence will cost man utd a lot, both lindelof and Maguire are dull and they can't keep us at times.

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Quote from: BobK71 on October 23, 2022, 01:32:23 PM

It is really astonished when the team who have experience of winning 4 World Cup sessions but cannot play in 2 consecutive World Cup. There is nothing to do in this case, when other countries advance in football, competition usually increases.

I don't have much faith in the Netherlands but Croatia is pretty decent. Belgium on the other hand have good chances to do well in this World Cup.

We have had a long discussion regarding the failure of the Italian squad to qualify for the world cup twice in a row. as for the Dutch squad, on this occasion.

I believe, they are one of the strong contenders in the Qatar world cup championship. the article, Louis Van Gal's troops have a pretty impressive record in their last 15 matches without defeat. although not as the favorite team, but the presence of the Netherlands in this world cup will be the difference and I'm pretty sure.

The Netherlands, has a good record by beating Belgium in two meetings in the league of nations.
With this result, we must not underestimate the Netherlands. because after all they have enough capital to compete in the Qatar world cup.

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They implemented something I really like, in the World Cup section you can select the previous ones and see the detailed statistics, lineups etc.

On the following link simply choose a year and the game that you want to see - for example, this is for the 1998 Croatia-Netherlands game for 3rd place.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 23, 2022, 07:59:26 AM

I'm also sorry that we won't see Italy again at the World Cup, after they became European champions.
For such a football nation not to participate in the World Cup twice in a row is a great disaster and failure.
Ronaldo is currently in a big game crisis, but the Portugal team is still very good and can make a good result at the World Cup.
I don't think Lewandowski will be able to help the Polish team much, and I believe that my Croatian team will play a good world championship again, especially after a very good performance in the league of nations this year.
I think the Netherlands and Belgium could be good at this World Cup and achieve a very good result.

There is no excuse in this case as we are watching in last few years Italian quality is declined, and they are facing this all just because of not adopting thing which are important for keeping players at high level and injuries issue is also having big trouble with them as well which are surely needed to be settled with the players quality and more replacement which allow them to be play on same level.

Once I was the biggest fan of Italian soccer and their play style, but now they are badly down and out of the competition which is matter of concern with this all now few other countries are improving quality and having better results like Croatia and Belgium both are surely good teams which are capable of giving upsets on their day even right now Belgium is having decline in quality as well but still better team in UEFA which is surely a good work from them and their management.

Currently, we have too many teams in European soccer which can give good results, and we can expect good performance from them in coming world cup for me France, Germany and Spain are not going to have place in last four as we can expect some good fight from teams like Croatia, Netherlands and England which are also in good shape.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on October 22, 2022, 04:44:22 PM

Bad news for France with their defender Raphael Varane doubt participants on World Cu after get injury with his knee trough last games Chelsea vs Manchester United. Still not have official announcement yet between Manchester United and national team about Varane injury need how many weeks get recovery. I doubt he will miss chance fit on time because World Cup begin under 30 days later and actually national team preparing one or two weeks before World Cup start.

Varane suffered an injury to his femoral bicep but saw a positive MRI result and is less serious than first feared
Varane was one of the core members of the squad that won the 2018 World Cup and an important for France,
but Deschamps still has a 21-year-old, William Saliba.
Saliba is strong, has character, and is composed in pressure situations.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 23, 2022, 07:59:26 AM

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I'm also sorry that we won't see Italy again at the World Cup, after they became European champions.
For such a football nation not to participate in the World Cup twice in a row is a great disaster and failure.
Ronaldo is currently in a big game crisis, but the Portugal team is still very good and can make a good result at the World Cup.
I don't think Lewandowski will be able to help the Polish team much, and I believe that my Croatian team will play a good world championship again, especially after a very good performance in the league of nations this year.
I think the Netherlands and Belgium could be good at this World Cup and achieve a very good result.

Yeah, I really hope the Netherlands ends up winning this world cup. They've always been so close to win it that it would be nice for them to actually win it this time.

It's not going to be easy though, as this world cup is filled with amazing talent. Actually this might be the last time we see many amazing players like Messi and CR7.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 23, 2022, 07:59:26 AM

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It remains a strange idea that we will not see the reigning European Champion Italy at the world championship. But it will happen anyway. Portugal is not a bad team either. Qatar is brimming with confidence, they are reigning Asian champions, but they are no match for the violence from Europe. Lewandowsky can also show how good he is at the World Cup in Qatar. I don't see Poland winning of course, but maybe they can knock out a favorite with Lewandowsky in the ranks. If I could choose an outsider, I would go for Croatia or the Netherlands.

I'm also sorry that we won't see Italy again at the World Cup, after they became European champions.
For such a football nation not to participate in the World Cup twice in a row is a great disaster and failure.
Ronaldo is currently in a big game crisis, but the Portugal team is still very good and can make a good result at the World Cup.
I don't think Lewandowski will be able to help the Polish team much, and I believe that my Croatian team will play a good world championship again, especially after a very good performance in the league of nations this year.
I think the Netherlands and Belgium could be good at this World Cup and achieve a very good result.

It is really astonished when the team who have experience of winning 4 World Cup sessions but cannot play in 2 consecutive World Cup. There is nothing to do in this case, when other countries advance in football, competition usually increases.

I don't have much faith in the Netherlands but Croatia is pretty decent. Belgium on the other hand have good chances to do well in this World Cup.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on October 22, 2022, 03:44:11 PM

It remains a strange idea that we will not see the reigning European Champion Italy at the world championship. But it will happen anyway. Portugal is not a bad team either. Qatar is brimming with confidence, they are reigning Asian champions, but they are no match for the violence from Europe. Lewandowsky can also show how good he is at the World Cup in Qatar. I don't see Poland winning of course, but maybe they can knock out a favorite with Lewandowsky in the ranks. If I could choose an outsider, I would go for Croatia or the Netherlands.

I'm also sorry that we won't see Italy again at the World Cup, after they became European champions.
For such a football nation not to participate in the World Cup twice in a row is a great disaster and failure.
Ronaldo is currently in a big game crisis, but the Portugal team is still very good and can make a good result at the World Cup.
I don't think Lewandowski will be able to help the Polish team much, and I believe that my Croatian team will play a good world championship again, especially after a very good performance in the league of nations this year.
I think the Netherlands and Belgium could be good at this World Cup and achieve a very good result.

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Bad news for France with their defender Raphael Varane doubt participants on World Cu after get injury with his knee trough last games Chelsea vs Manchester United. Still not have official announcement yet between Manchester United and national team about Varane injury need how many weeks get recovery. I doubt he will miss chance fit on time because World Cup begin under 30 days later and actually national team preparing one or two weeks before World Cup start.

Should careful for other player how to get chance participant in World Cup with their national team depend league still running until few weeks later, almost league will stop at matchday 14 for La Liga on 10th November, almost two weeks later player with their team and need be careful if want participants at World Cup.

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It remains a strange idea that we will not see the reigning European Champion Italy at the world championship. But it will happen anyway. Portugal is not a bad team either. Qatar is brimming with confidence, they are reigning Asian champions, but they are no match for the violence from Europe. Lewandowsky can also show how good he is at the World Cup in Qatar. I don't see Poland winning of course, but maybe they can knock out a favorite with Lewandowsky in the ranks. If I could choose an outsider, I would go for Croatia or the Netherlands.

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I don't think that the Netherlands are so weak that they don't have a chance at all for the title. This is a short tournament and the result will be somewhat random. And in any case, it is better to lose in the final or semi-final than in the 1/8. Therefore, the Netherlands will be as motivated as possible. By the way, surprisingly, underdogs almost never become world champions, unlike the European Championship, where, for example, Greece, unexpectedly for everyone, became the champion, although the average strength of teams is higher at the European Championship than at the World Cup.

I am not sure, they are not looking like they are good enough to beat the best teams one on one when the time comes. Everyone agrees that the four of Argentina/Brazil/England/France are the teams to beat this year, they are really good, and I feel like even if Netherlands match up with one of them and somehow managed to beat them, will they be able to do it to all of them?

Depends on the drawing a bit as well, what if those teams lose to some easier team by being unlucky and Netherlands end up facing easier opponents because they draw lucky and other games work better for them? In that case it would be quite possible for them to win, but it's unlikely to say the least.

You correctly noted that the draw will mean a lot and it is not at all necessary to beat all the strong teams one by one. Maybe they will destroy each other themselves. Or there is another good example - UCL last year. Real in each round of the playoffs met with the strongest team (at least which was the favorite relative to Real), and Liverpool met only with weaker opponents. As a result, Real won, but in such a short-lived tournament as the World Cup, it is possible that one team will reach the final exhausted, while the other will be relatively fresh and full of strength. With such an imbalance, the Netherlands could easily become champions.

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I wouldn't really compare South Korea and Japan with Qatar, because Korea and Japan have a much longer football tradition, they have invested much more in football, and they have a much larger population and a much larger football base.
Just look at their results in the last world cups, Korea and Japan often make it to the knockout stages of world cups and achieving great results.
Ok, it seems that Qatar is currently achieving good results in friendly matches, but does anyone seriously think that they would have qualified for this World Cup if they did not have the direct right to participate as hosts?

No, of course. No one holding that illusion. Before, Qatar isn't on the same level as some of the MENA teams in the region. If not for the host right, they wouldn't even pass against other strong teams like Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Qatar recently got good only because of the massive preparation for this World Cup. They got a lot of new players under their national team, buying and transferring left and right just for the stake to put up a good face as a host. I'm damn sure after this World Cup is over, Qatar will fall back to its place, behind stronger teams in MENA. Money can only buy them some temporary victories before and a bit after this World Cup.

I will also jump the bandwagon of people saying NO, and if I could swap them for another team then I would have gladly use it to bring back Italy. Furthermore do you’ll think that it’ll be a nice opportunity to make some quick bucks while wagering against them, and even though I’m expecting super low odds I yet feel that we can earn some good bucks on their matches if we get lucky.

I'm also sorry that Italy didn't qualify for the World Cup again. It+s really a tragedy that we will not see such a great team, the current champion of Europe, at the World Cup, and on the other hand, Qatar will play at the World Cup thanks to the fact that they are the hosts of the championship.
On the other hand, Qatar will certainly be a very interesting betting option at this world championship Grin

I'm really interested in what will happen next with the Qatar team, in the next competitions after this world cup and how successful they will be in terms of results.

I really hope that the authorities of Qatar football realize that this is not just a revenue stream through which they will be able to make money. I hope they realize that they have a really good chance of showing the world what they can do in football. There should not only be a focus on getting money from this world cup, but also on having some people looking for really skilled players in Qatar as a result of this world cup. And I expect that the people of Qatar will also be very interested in football after this world cup happens.

It does feel sad that Italy did not qualify for the world cup. But I think that's okay. They are a capable team and they probably deserved to play in the world cup, but nothing can be done now.

I would like to think of football as something noble, but the reality is different.
Romantic football, in which money was not important, and clubs like Steaua or Crvena zvezda could be champions of Europe, lasted until 1991, when the Champions League started and profit became the most important thing.
It is clear that the main reason why Qatar's leaders decided to organize this world championship is solely for profit, and everything else, including sports motives, are irrelevant and that is the reality.
I believe that many neutral football fans are sorry that we will not see Italy again in this World Cup, but that is the reality and nothing can be changed.

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