Topic: 2022 WNBA Discussion and Betting - page 25. (Read 7507 times)

It's your point of view and your right but we both know that there are always other's side.

Other opinions regarding to this matter and it's also  their own take about this topic, but yes I'm good with your explanation and if considering  the fact then it's not racist at all it's just getting the point from both business and sports side. More on how opinions will be taken  and be considered.

What I want to know is if there is an effect of testosterone to already grown women. Will it affect their performance in their current sport. I know for some sports, they do not allow transgender men to compete in women's sports if they were transgender past a certain age. That is the age when testosterone already affected their growth. If testosterone still gives a certain advantage against straight females in basketball, it should not be allowed. That should be considered cheating. But if testosterone has very little effect on the physical abilities of women after they reach a certain age, then they should allow trans women to play in WNBA. I am more concerned about the fairness of the sports than if they are born women or not.

No Problem Dude I was busy in the NBA and other sports as well and recently because there is no available WNBA to discuss then I think I will be here when there are certain news articles about the WNBA or a sudden trade now that is off-season that a player or team would certainly do,

Well, you are right it is OK to be Gay or Lesbian and are in a sport that you like as long as for example you are a woman and you have undergone a procedure that will enhance any hormone or have masculinity added to you I think that player is now prohibited in participating in certain All-women's league, now that she has enhanced hormones that will distinguish where she can play, well I think they will think of ways for them to participate in other league but not where they can have an advantage of strength, particularly Physical sports,


But that is really so hard to come by, just like with the WNBA for women to have their own basketball league, is hard enough for some people to accept and support what else if there are many categories for the LGBTQ+ community to have their equal rights in certain sports that they want I think that would be a waste of government money in giving them that privilege, but again I may have sounded like a racist for them but if I apply the law of the Bible here then there will be just 2 individuals available and that is Man and Woman,

And you are right this is a different topic to discuss, but whenever WNBA is a part of the topic that needed to enlighten with for me women with injected Hormones are now out of the picture and not fitted to play for the WNBA anymore,

If that is possible, why not right? Give them their own league and allow them to create names in their communities.

Though it's another talk that needed to discuss and many more opinions will come up,
different from how others think about LGBT+ and maybe it will bring separation
and more talk about it. For now, let the league stay how it is and let fans enjoy how
WNBA performs.

Sorry, been busy with the NBA. 

I disagree too like Matt Barnes and I think it was discussed before by sports analysts in different sports.
It's not about sexism or whatever they call it. It's about avoiding unfairness when a transgender dominates the sport, especially in women's basketball or any sports with physicality happening.
There will be a lot of issues if they combine them.
The only solution for this is to make an LGBTQ+ league. There, no one should call it an unfair game because it was set for anyone in the LGBTQ+ community.

What Transpires for some women to be injected with hormones in my opinion is their own decision, but in doing so they need to undergo briefing and for the WNBA to not allow them to play anymore because of what they have done, I think a chest operation is OK but injecting a hormone is not really necessary, and needs to be addressed, for me it is not really normal for them to do so, I think the WNBA should do is to give them the decision to continue playing without the enhanced hormones, or to not continue In their career and pursue the used of hormones, well it is OK to be Lesbian or included in the LGBTQ community but to have injected male hormones while you play just needs to stop,

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WNBA Statement about Griner they still think that Brittney Griner was wrongfully detained which is for me it is not, she was in a different territory and there are sure rules and different law there that she needs to follow when he is in another country, for me, it was really not wrongful to detained her, because she has committed a crime in the Russian soil, and no need for a further excuse about what she did, she has already done it,

Good point, no need to elaborate, as the explanation was clear on both ends. I believe that weighting the balance
in terms of what Matt Barnes said will be clear for the WNBA organization.

It's a big boost for transgender from Men to women form the advantages will be big
as the original hormones will remain, though there are some that will be adjust
while maintaining the body form, but still it's an advantage.

I agree, she can surely be an embodiment for all women who want to play ball but didn't have the chance to do it, and likely to say courtside will be sure good for her in helping a team that she used to play for, or even a different team to help the future ballers on some struggle in dealing with playing in the WNBA, well I know that the WNBA isn't getting the love from some but I think there are other that authentically support it, I truly enjoy watching them play and not just a 2nd pick to the NBA but a worth watch and addition to my everyday do's, but surely I already missed Sue Bird playing inside court, and next season will surely not going to be the same again,

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News just in, NBA Champion Matt Barnes says he is against a transgender woman playing in the WNBA, well, for me in my opinion if a woman would undergo a procedure in injecting hormones or something some will surely enhance their performance because they now have the hormones of male, and Matt Barnes is clear about it, but for me, she is still a woman so I think she is still can play in the WNBA, but if a guy would undergo a hormone female change I think that is really not allowed, because even though he underwent operations or hormone transplant, he is still a he,

Recently Layshia Clarendon admits that she had went chest masculinization surgery or removing breast tissue I think this is tolerable if it is not Hormone transplant,

Maybe she's done playing, but a baller will always be a baller. I'm not going to be surprised if I will see her on the
bench helping the coaching staff.

She can go the same path how he's father continue loving the game, just my personal take though
and what I really wanted to see out from her, she can share her knowledge with young superstars
especially how to remain fit and healthy while playing the game.

The WNBA badly needs the sponsor it can get, considering the NBA players get so much attention with the shoes, and naming the model of the shoes as theirs, so there is no surprise for that shoe if they could get the money from the sales then they will get a hefty huge sum just on shoes, it doesn't include the advertising that they are doing only on the NBA, because I don't see much with the WNBA, that is why some NBA players try to support the WNBA on their own

yup! Fred Williams will be the new coach for the Los Angeles Sparks after being the assistant coach for almost 3 years, and Seimone Augustus will be the assistant coach now, 


Well, eventually it will surely show those ring rust will slowly manifest and no player is simply safe about it, Sue Bird is really not an exception even though she is surely having an easy time with her shots and still are welcome anytime on the Seattle Storm,

I will surely miss Sue Bird, and I think that she can still manage to play it, this season, but there are some other things why she retired, but I will surely miss her,

42 years old, but the athleticism of Sue is still there. Just like you said, his IQ is still the same though she's already slow
and maybe some physical capabilities aside from the past injuries are already showing,

but if we assess her before he decide hanging her uniform, she's still having it. As a fan, I can still say that giving
her good minutes to play will continue being productive. Sue has the leadership that we can say is still good for a
team, especially coming from a respective veteran star.

Considering how fast their season is, yes. But I always want to look at the hard work these women do to make it more of an entertaining game. That should also be worth a good payment.
I guess it's not just with tickets but they also lack advertisers unlike NBA from sportswear, shoes, up to their drinking brands.

There is one good news for the LA Sparks after parting ways with Derek Fisher. (Fred Williams served as the interim coach)
https://sparks.wnba.com/news/los-angeles-sparks-hire-curt-miller-as-head-coach/#:~:text=LOS%20ANGELES%20(Oct.%2021%2C,season%20record%20of%20140%2D86.

Sue Bird that age is likely prone to injuries but surely she is strong enough for that and if you didn't say that her age was already at 42, she doesn't look and feel like 42 to me she can surely play as if she was still in her prime, well if there are other reasons in hanging her uniform I really don't know and because she doesn't say anything about it at all, 


Well, if they feel OK I think they are free to roam the WNBA until they can manage to play, just like Sue Bird did, it is surely up to them, pretty much they surely know themselves pretty much if they decide to hang their uniforms early or not,

Well, I am never surprised if the WNBA players are just getting 6 digit salary while the NBA has 8, it is surely obvious that the number of support for the WNBA is not that high unlike the regular NBA, which has full support or many fans, and likely some NBA players are surely cutting salaries and supporting the WNBA on their own way just for the WNBA to thrive on their own,

Yeah, their speed and mostly being in the injured section will be the signal of their aging.
But Sue was different at her last game. She looks like she can still play more but there must be other reasons for her retirement.

This ain't happening anymore with most of the NBA players. At age 35, they are on the brink of deciding to hang their uniforms. Most deals they can make are veteran minimums for a year and it will be difficult to have one unless they have connections or they have something to contribute on the sidelines just like the position of Udonis.

I just recently checked the contracts of WNBA players, I didn't know it was way far from the amount NBA players make. Most are just 6 digits while in NBA they make 8 digits.

Totally Agreed with you imagine that age is playing on the regular NBA it will be much different That playing it in the WNBA I don't know why but there may be a genetic structure for Men and Women that could only be playing in that age limit but it will always depend on every individual, I will never know that Sue Bird is already 41 if you hadn't said it in the forum, she doesn't really look like 41 to me, and if you look at Russell Westbrook that was only 33 years old, then he surely looks like 41 years old to me compared to the Prime Westbrook he used to be back then, While Lebron James has a different genetic structure he is already 37 years old but he didn't look like one instead he only look 30 for me,

Well sometimes in women it is not really that visible, but for men, you can tell by looking at them physically and on paper when looking at their game records,


She will be an inspiration for many generations to come, and she will be an inspiration to many that everything is possible, and right now I think the nearest players that may retire soon from the WNBA are Allie Quigley who is now 36, Alysha Clark who is 35, Briann January who is now 35, Candace Parker that is 36, and Yvonne Turner who is 35, I know there are still plenty of years to come but they are nearing that age retirement kind of thing,

While in the NBA we have retired at the age of 45 up to 42

Nat Hickey - is 45 years old last team was Providence Steamrollers (1948)
Kevin Willis - is 44 years old last team was Dallas Mavericks (2007)
Vince Carter - is 43 years old last team was the Atlanta Hawks (2018–2020)
Dikembe Mutombo - is 42 years old last team was the Houston Rockets (2004–2009)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - is 42 years old last team was the Los Angeles Lakers (1975–1989)

And the rest was aged 41 to 40, while Udonis Haslem was 42 years old and still active and playing with the team Miami Heat (2003–present)

Yeah, perhaps she felt that this is the right time to retire. She made a good run with her career and I think she will be listed in the Hall of Fame too.

Next in line who is a known WNBA player to retire might be Candace Parker.
36 years of age and she also proved a lot of things already. She's in the process of re-evaluating her game.
https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/1568075457387544576?s=20&t=Sb5Zjg--1Fd7C71l2SHcjQ
IIRC, last year she was supposed to rest but was only convinced by her daughter Lailaa Nicole Williams to play one more year and so she did.
One more year in her contract with the Sky. After that, there's a possibility that she will hang her uniform too.

I like how you define Sue Bird as she is really a good example of an athlete who spend long time with his career.

Even she's 41, we can still see her IQ inside the court, though there are many new young stars that, really
making their way into this sport, but we witness how Sue continues to compete before she announces her
retirement, I was still expecting her playing in that last FIBA but she already hang her uniform.

That's why it's a great achievement for all women if they can still play sports at age 35+. One good example is recently retired Sue Bird who just announce his last game of the WNBA season at age 41. Obviously, she could still play and I think she will be focusing on something else that's why she decided to retire.
Imagine that, 41. Even men are having a hard time playing at that age at the same speed and performance as she did.
Women have something to prove so they would go to such lengths even if it is their health that is on the line. Without a doubt, they already proven a lot of things but sadly they still lack the numbers of women joining in and being supported.

Well, because of her passing there will be family and friends that will surely mourn and miss her, but because she is now a coach to a team of promising kids the Texas Longhorns women's basketball, there will be a gap for these future generations that Tiffany Jackson won't be there to give the knowledge she can give and to witness those kids grow, and there will be a prayer vigil for her this coming October 17, in celebrating the wonderful life of Tiffany Jackson,


It will surely depend on the women's athletes I guess, there are some that still stay the same even though they have given birth, but there are that have changed when they do give birth, I think we all have those questions about the human body and how it works but let's not get out of the box and think a lot about that, 

It is a personal preference actually. We cannot tell what the athletes want or do not want to do. It is their body and they can do whatever they want with it. Whether they bear a child or not, it is their choice. We can just support them if they choose to do so.


Of course, they still can get back to their sports. It will take time to get back though because it is almost a year that they will be gone from their sports if ever they decided to get pregnant. They will be rusty at first, but through training, they can get back to their old self.