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Quote from: KTChampions on July 15, 2024, 08:50:33 AM

Quote from: mindrust on July 15, 2024, 02:52:17 AM

He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.

You forgot mail-in voting, which can magically change the results of the count Grin

Considering that the Democrats are opposed to the need to prove that you are a US citizen in the presidential election (what a fucking clown world), I would not be surprised if tens of millions of fake votes are thrown in Biden’s favor. If anyone (even illegal immigrant without documents) can vote, then why not?

Hopefully T thought something about it this time.

It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting.

The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above)

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on July 15, 2024, 05:43:11 AM

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Quote from: mindrust on July 15, 2024, 02:52:17 AM

He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.

This was going to be a close race, but with this lastest incident Trump has indeed increased his chances to win, the picture of him alone screaming with his fist up to the sky is worth millions in political capital already, it is a truly a blessing in disguise for him, also the fact he quickly mentioned and asked for prayers for the family of those who died, makes him to look even more humane.
I am not sure whether his assassination would have sparked a civil war or not, USA polítics are more complex than that and the average Republican and the establishment would not find convenient for a war to happen in the USA, if anything, Putin would greatly benefit from it happening.

When I have some time, I'll try to find a graph which shows how the odds of Trump changed because of this unpredictable assassination attempt.

I thought the same thing, the situation, as difficult as it may have been, elected Donald Trump, if anyone had doubts about who to vote for, after this incident it is practically certain that the vote will go to Trump, he showed that even in adversity he did not let himself go slaughter and showed himself to be a very strong person with an American spirit that everyone wants to see. It's even easy to bet now, I would put all in on Trump if I were to bet.

I would not go as far as claiming it is an easy bet, these kind of bets are never easy and in the end of the day, it is never certain one candidate is going to beat their foe, thus going all in on a candidate is never a good advice. We are supposed to bet on money we are willing to lose to our own bad luck, it is the thumb rule of gambling and risky investments, after all.

As it stands now, I wonder whether Trump is going to use this unfortunate event to advertise his campaign further, as it is truly remarkable how he faced the chance of getting killed by a second gunman, he and his team did not know whether there was one or several people threatening the life of Trump. It was a risk, to pose and raise his fist.

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Does anyone know about the 1984 United States presidential election? It was conducted after the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. Republican candidate won close to 60% of the popular vote, and ended up winning all states except Minnesota (home state for the Democrat candidate Walter Mondale). That was one of the most one-sided presidential elections in the history of the United States. Now the 2024 POTUS elections are also heading in the same direction (that is, if there is no vote rigging from the Democrats).

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Quote from: GxSTxV on July 15, 2024, 09:08:19 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 14, 2024, 06:11:59 PM

I'm curious about what will happen to bets that were placed before a tragic event.
For example, something bad happened to Donald Trump that led him to death. Will the bets be back to bettors who placed bets on Donald Trump on the Presidential election?

I came here to ask the same question lol. Last week before this incident happens, I had made up my mind to place a bet on Donald Trump winning the presidential election but I totally forgot about that. Now, after what happened to him in this assassination attempt that injured him, I'm curious to also ask if something else were to happen to him, would the casinos refund the money to bettors who had bet on Trump, or would those bets be considered lost or only get a partial refund? It's confusing because while this is gambling, death is a tragedy and it doesn't seem fair for casinos to just keep that money.

I believe a good casino would refund the money to the bettors by choice, but it's not an obligation for them and wouldn’t be considered a scam IMO. It's similar to betting on a boxing or UFC match just before one of the fighters gets injured or dies, your bet would typically be considered lost in such cases or you will get a refund? Did such incidents happened before?

The election hasn't happened yet and no one has declared a winner yet which I guess will be considered No contest. Maybe they will send the coins back and it will be fair to do that. But there was a match in boxing that after a few months the fight was considered No Contest as well such as the fight of Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. I think the coins weren't sent back. After all that time, it was considered Ryan who won and the fight was over.

And most probably Trump will be replaced by someone else and your bet will be void as well. Such a disaster when you already think its a sure winning bet.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on July 14, 2024, 11:01:19 AM

Whoever planned this attack on Trump has just handed him the victory. If the poll was tomorrow Trump should be celebrating already. He is going to gain more votes now even people who wanted to stay neutral will now have a change of mind and support him because of this attack on his life. Trump will attract a lot of sympathy votes and he will be very popular more than the way he was already.
His odds of winning will be reduced.

Well this point of yours is very valid and there's no doubt this will really attract sympathisers who may decide to give him a chance due to his ordeal but then that wouldn't be the best thing to do because you shouldn't be made to pick a person for such a position by meare sympathy meanwhile you bare supposed to be rational as ro what you really want for a leader, don't get me wrong I do sympathize with Trump but it wouldn't be a reason I will give my vote if for any reason I think he isn't the kind of person I would want in the position that will affect my being as a citizen of the country he will be governing.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 14, 2024, 06:11:59 PM

I'm curious about what will happen to bets that were placed before a tragic event.
For example, something bad happened to Donald Trump that led him to death. Will the bets be back to bettors who placed bets on Donald Trump on the Presidential election?

I came here to ask the same question lol. Last week before this incident happens, I had made up my mind to place a bet on Donald Trump winning the presidential election but I totally forgot about that. Now, after what happened to him in this assassination attempt that injured him, I'm curious to also ask if something else were to happen to him, would the casinos refund the money to bettors who had bet on Trump, or would those bets be considered lost or only get a partial refund? It's confusing because while this is gambling, death is a tragedy and it doesn't seem fair for casinos to just keep that money.

I believe a good casino would refund the money to the bettors by choice, but it's not an obligation for them and wouldn’t be considered a scam IMO. It's similar to betting on a boxing or UFC match just before one of the fighters gets injured or dies, your bet would typically be considered lost in such cases or you will get a refund? Did such incidents happened before?

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Quote from: mindrust on July 15, 2024, 02:52:17 AM

He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.

You forgot mail-in voting, which can magically change the results of the count Grin

Considering that the Democrats are opposed to the need to prove that you are a US citizen in the presidential election (what a fucking clown world), I would not be surprised if tens of millions of fake votes are thrown in Biden’s favor. If anyone (even illegal immigrant without documents) can vote, then why not?

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If you pay close attention, yesterday's incident made Trump have electability that continues to build very quickly throughout the US and it is quite crazy for a political campaign, and the assassination attempt made various media tell it continuously so that he could convey his political ideas without him having to pay a lot of media, even the media supporting his opponent also reported the incident of the death threat which made him win electability now in the US.

I don't know if this is his marketing as a politician to increase his name throughout the US citizens or it is a real incident and there are other parties who oppose Trump who have a greater possibility of becoming US president again this year, and due to this incident there are also a lot of conspiracies that come out related to the global elite and so on so that it continues to be talked about.

To bet on Trump this allows a big win, he can be sure to find his throne back in the US to be No. 1 yes even with the many issues circulating, some government instruments must be disciplined.

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Quote from: Hispo on July 15, 2024, 05:19:41 AM

Quote from: mindrust on July 15, 2024, 02:52:17 AM

He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.

This was going to be a close race, but with this lastest incident Trump has indeed increased his chances to win, the picture of him alone screaming with his fist up to the sky is worth millions in political capital already, it is a truly a blessing in disguise for him, also the fact he quickly mentioned and asked for prayers for the family of those who died, makes him to look even more humane.
I am not sure whether his assassination would have sparked a civil war or not, USA polítics are more complex than that and the average Republican and the establishment would not find convenient for a war to happen in the USA, if anything, Putin would greatly benefit from it happening.

When I have some time, I'll try to find a graph which shows how the odds of Trump changed because of this unpredictable assassination attempt.

I thought the same thing, the situation, as difficult as it may have been, elected Donald Trump, if anyone had doubts about who to vote for, after this incident it is practically certain that the vote will go to Trump, he showed that even in adversity he did not let himself go slaughter and showed himself to be a very strong person with an American spirit that everyone wants to see. It's even easy to bet now, I would put all in on Trump if I were to bet.

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Quote from: mindrust on July 15, 2024, 02:52:17 AM

He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.

This was going to be a close race, but with this lastest incident Trump has indeed increased his chances to win, the picture of him alone screaming with his fist up to the sky is worth millions in political capital already, it is a truly a blessing in disguise for him, also the fact he quickly mentioned and asked for prayers for the family of those who died, makes him to look even more humane.
I am not sure whether his assassination would have sparked a civil war or not, USA polítics are more complex than that and the average Republican and the establishment would not find convenient for a war to happen in the USA, if anything, Putin would greatly benefit from it happening.

When I have some time, I'll try to find a graph which shows how the odds of Trump changed because of this unpredictable assassination attempt.

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Quote from: Viscore on July 14, 2024, 08:54:21 AM

What do you think is the impact of this news?

Trump injured but ‘fine’ after attempted assassination at rally, shooter and one attendee are dead

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BUTLER, Pa. (AP) — Former President Donald Trump was the target of an apparent assassination attempt Saturday at a Pennsylvania rally, days before he was to accept the Republican nomination for a third time. A barrage of gunfire set off panic, and a bloodied Trump, who said he was shot in the ear, was surrounded by Secret Service and hurried to his SUV as he pumped his fist in a show of defiance.

And for the betting odds, Trump still is the heavy favorite to win. Does it make him more favorite?

Betting line now.
Trump -208 vs Biden +620

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/politics/us-politics

After the shooting case, I'm sure that Trump's popularity will increase, especially after seeing pictures circulating on the internet showing Trump shouting "fight" with a flag behind him, it seems like he's the hero that America needs right now. And also it might influence people that there are parties who don't like Trump's presence and that makes them switch/become more confident in voting for Trump.

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He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 14, 2024, 10:31:33 PM

Quote from: STT on July 14, 2024, 06:29:07 PM

~snip~

I reckon the dead of the secret service should resign. He is incompetent, however, the skeptical me is thinking of something very bad like who gets direct benefits on the death of the Donald Trump?

In any case, the assassinator and if there are more people behind this assassination, they have given the victory to Trump on November with a very big landslide!

Can't resign, already dead. Grin

Kidding aside, yeah, it's negligence that almost killed the presidential candidate.

Anyway, I'd rather focus on the shooter than the other things that would happen if Trump's dead. Thomas Crooks appears to be a sad young man who wants to shoot. At this point, it seems Thomas doesn't have a strong motive in killing a presidentiable.

Trump's winning not because he was assassinated. Trump's winning because Biden is senile.

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Quote from: STT on July 14, 2024, 06:29:07 PM

I was wrong about peak Trump odds then, way wrong as this increases the chances easily. Hard to predict this event, it does amount to some negligence on USSS part as even a drone could have covered surveillance better of the overall area and somehow thats not happened. i do suspect its just a negligence story though. I'm going to let the dust settle on this one a bit to see where the new picture for this bet lies but its got to have changed considerably now.

Add in the persistent doubts based off Biden's speech hesitancy which he has always had to some extent and I guess it could upset the race bias some from the standing president carrying an advantage over any other contender.

I haven’t checked the odds yet, but I imagine it isn’t much worth the bet now. I’m glad I was able to get some parlays in before it became clear Trump would be our next President. My first solo bet was placed at 2:1 odds. It seems like that wasn’t all that long ago. I’m guessing they’re probably closer to 1.2:1 now…

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Quote from: STT on July 14, 2024, 06:29:07 PM

I was wrong about peak Trump odds then, way wrong as this increases the chances easily. Hard to predict this event, it does amount to some negligence on USSS part as even a drone could have covered surveillance better of the overall area and somehow thats not happened. i do suspect its just a negligence story though. I'm going to let the dust settle on this one a bit to see where the new picture for this bet lies but its got to have changed considerably now.

Add in the persistent doubts based off Biden's speech hesitancy which he has always had to some extent and I guess it could upset the race bias some from the standing president carrying an advantage over any other contender.

I reckon the head of the secret service should resign. He is incompetent, however, the skeptical me is thinking of something very bad like who gets direct benefits on the death of the Donald Trump?

In any case, the assassinator and if there are more people behind this assassination, they have given the victory to Trump on November with a very big landslide!

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I was wrong about peak Trump odds then, way wrong as this increases the chances easily. Hard to predict this event, it does amount to some negligence on USSS part as even a drone could have covered surveillance better of the overall area and somehow thats not happened. i do suspect its just a negligence story though. I'm going to let the dust settle on this one a bit to see where the new picture for this bet lies but its got to have changed considerably now.

Add in the persistent doubts based off Biden's speech hesitancy which he has always had to some extent and I guess it could upset the race bias some from the standing president carrying an advantage over any other contender.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 14, 2024, 06:11:59 PM

I'm curious about what will happen to bets that were placed before a tragic event.
For example, something bad happened to Donald Trump that led him to death. Will the bets be back to bettors who placed bets on Donald Trump on the Presidential election?

I wondered the same thing yesterday actually, as news unfolded on this alledged assassination attempt against former president Trump. I think it would be pretty much depending on the terms and conditions of each casino/betting book who happens to be holding a market or liquidity on this presidential race, to be honest. In the event something very bad had happened to Trump, some casinos would have closed their markets and give all their bettors their money initially deposited as wager, while there would be others who may take the approach of taking the death of the candidate as a default defat in the election (a dead man cannot run for president, let alone win the election), so those who would have had a stake on Trump could lose their money.
Again, I feel it is very situational and depeing on the staff of the bookies.

I am glad Trump is okey, though. Political violence is never okey, specially when we talk of democratic countries like the USA.

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I'm curious about what will happen to bets that were placed before a tragic event.
For example, something bad happened to Donald Trump that led him to death. Will the bets be back to bettors who placed bets on Donald Trump on the Presidential election?

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Quote from: alani123 on July 14, 2024, 05:28:52 PM

The news about trump surviving a bullet attack seems to have been met with positive reactions from the crowd. Stocks that deem friendly to trump rose in price on after market sales and are likely to have a very good opening on Monday. All eyes on TSLA and DJT. Both companies are down bad in terms of product and finances lately but really the potential of Trump looking like a hero on the media has made it so there's very positive evaluation of the long term outcomes.

Certainly I think Trump has the upper hand now. The polls will take a week or so to shot it because current ones were running in the days before the shooting also. But surely now Trump has better chances.

I agree he was an inch away from losing his life and now he looks like an American hero. I don't bet on the presidential debate but if I did I'd be all in on Trump now. With how biden looks like he is going downhill anyone on the fence I'd say will be on trumps side. Hard to not root for the guy whether ypu like him or not. I'm in the camp that these 2 both aren't fit for the job. Both will be in theor 80s by the time their 4 years are up.

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There is no way Biden still has any chances to still be president by the end of the year after all what happened with Trump. I also think the rabbit hole of this story is so deep that I don't even want to discover but I'm glad the attempt failed and Trump is okay. USA really deserves a strong president that can still speak , think and act by himself so that is why Trump is now by far the favorite to win the election.

However , with how nuts USA is lately , anything can happen with this country so let's hope election will still be held in 2024.

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