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Trump lacks the diversity of support, it was never going to be easy. Having just more support from the same places wont help, that was how he got the electoral win in 2016 from the number of states who refused to vote in another Clinton, surprisingly unpopular even if alot of votes occurred in some places. Now Trump has that same problem, no doubt he has some fanatical support and alot of votes in some states but it lacks the broad appeal required.

Its a win for Biden despite criticism as he is the sitting president and the lay of the land is a bias towards reelection despite Trump not being unknown he hasnt gained imo. They wont mute mics, maybe mix the volume to reduce perhaps but the 2 candidates are standing too close to each other for any exclusion in that way imo.

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Apparently this is not actually going to happen but is just a rumor at present.

** Biden's voice is so low, it does count against him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 27, 2024, 12:01:53 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 26, 2024, 09:16:52 PM

@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

I am surprised that you guys are so optimistic about Joe Biden. In recent days, a lot of questions were being asked about his health. I a not sure whether he will be able to complete the debate, which can last for 90 minutes. Still we have around 8 hours to go for the start of the debate (which is set for 9pm Eastern Time). Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators for this debate, and you can watch the debate either on CNN (for cable TV subscribers), or online through CNN.com.

And why would people worry more about Joe's than Donald's health? It didn't sound like he was too much awake in his own trial.

And it's not like Trump has been coherent lately:

Quote from: Trump

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So I tell that story. And the fake news they go, he told this crazy story with electric. It's actually not crazy. It's sort of a smart story, right? Sort of like, you know, it's like the snake, it's a smart when you, you figure what you're leaving in, right? You're bringing it in the, you know, the snake, right? The snake and the snake. I tell that and they do the same thing

Source: https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1804592040791122259

There's way more of that, but i don't know how to form paragraphs from it, as nothing in it makes any sense. So it would just would look like a wall of text from a stroke victim. So good luck with that debate... But no matter what Donald says, or how he performs, maga people still will thinks he won. And same goes for the opposite. I am guessing that most people have already made their minds and rest of them don't even care.

And i doubt that this would in anyway affect to voting odds. But i am saving my brain from watching this one, i rather get some sleep. I can't get any comedy from this no matter how it goes. It's just sad.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 27, 2024, 12:01:53 PM

I am surprised that you guys are so optimistic about Joe Biden. In recent days, a lot of questions were being asked about his health. I a not sure whether he will be able to complete the debate, which can last for 90 minutes. Still we have around 8 hours to go for the start of the debate (which is set for 9pm Eastern Time). Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators for this debate, and you can watch the debate either on CNN (for cable TV subscribers), or online through CNN.com.

If you asked me a few months ago, I would have said Trump wins easily but I'm not so sure now. Recent polling shows a lot of Republicans have lost faith in Trump due to his erratic behaviour and legal troubles.

Either way, it is going to be a very close election.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 26, 2024, 09:16:52 PM

@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

I am surprised that you guys are so optimistic about Joe Biden. In recent days, a lot of questions were being asked about his health. I a not sure whether he will be able to complete the debate, which can last for 90 minutes. Still we have around 8 hours to go for the start of the debate (which is set for 9pm Eastern Time). Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators for this debate, and you can watch the debate either on CNN (for cable TV subscribers), or online through CNN.com.

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Eager to see how this debate is going to influence the odds and the perception the people of the United States have on both candidates. Though, I would like to point out I would have liked to see Kennedy Junior to also be part of this debate, and not being a replay of what we already saw four years ago with exactly the same candidates. If CNN and other news channels agreed to also host Kennedy Jr, then I am sure Trump would rather not to attend and debate Biden, Kennedy takes an important percentage of votes from both Biden and Trump, neither of the parties want to give him a platform to discourage voters to go for the two obvious alternatives.
Also, I have noticed how Trump seems to have tone down his discourse about Biden health and cognitive behavior, he even said Biden would probably do good at debate and he does not want to underestimate him.

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@cabron. Hehehe they think mic muting will be very advantageous for Biden, however, this does not stop Donald Trump from talking loudly or shouting while Joe Biden is speaking on the mic. I am quite certain this will be a comedy show with Trump breaking the party prepared by Jake Tapper for Biden.

I reckon Trump might lose the debate, however, all of the comedy will come from him which will make it appear that he is the winner hehehehehehe.

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Quote from: cabron on June 19, 2024, 12:56:51 PM

Don't you guys think Putin loves that they are ruining Trump's reputation?
We hear it all the time Trump is a Putin's Dog but putting Trump as president will not be an advantage for Putin since Trump is going to stop the war.

Yeah lol, what will he do it, build a wall? Oh wait!
This is the guy that moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, threw 100 rockets at Syria because why not, and decided on a whim to turn the highest ranking general in Iran, their national hero in kebab cause he wanted to prove a thing. And you expect him to end a war? Yeah right!
He's the same guy that put gas on fire when congratulating the Taiwan president just because he wanted to piss China!

Anyhow, anyone taking bets this far ahead of the election is more than just gambling, remember how Trump was a favorite to win and got trashed in the last months, just as Clinton was far ahead in the polls only to lose basically in the last few strides. Anything can happen, and despite Trump's advantage a stagnation in inflation or continuous decrease is going to erode his voters as most are voting for him not because of his policies but because they are pissed at Biden.

The odds are very far from what it was then:

If Trump still loses this time. I guess this is all still going to end up like how it was in the last election. But still, I doubt Biden will win knowing that he will be debating against Trump this June 27. This will be on Thursday. Seeing Biden as a meme himself, this will be a funny debate. I will be surprised if the old man won't walk like a zombie. Memecoins I think are about to skyrocket.

Hehehe agreed. On the odds, I reckon that Trump's odds will become more lower after the debate because the confidence on Biden will decrease further. However, the fight is not on convincing the the Biden supporters to begin their support on Trump or convincing the Trump supporters to support Biden. It is the swing voters who will give the victory for one of these candidates. This will change and give the lead to Trump sometimes and also on other times it will give it to Biden. This will be a very suspenseful campaign considering that there is a war in Ukraine and the Middle East. They will very much have different foreign policies and it will be very head shaking if Trump is the winner because he will be the president to encourage the stoppage of the war in Ukraine and the Middle East. China however will be Trump's enemy hehehehehehe.

This debate should be on bookies by now but I see no listing of it whether who will win. Somehow people are already seeing the obvious but not so fast. One of the moderators in their debate is one of the baddest Trump haters Jake Tapper! Of all people this is the man in the middle who called Trump Hitler lol This is going to be good.

They both agree to mic muting by the way. I think there will be a lot of muting that will happen in this debate.

The only one I found is on Polymarket. 90+ % Trump and Biden debate before Election? So it's happening.
https://polymarket.com/event/trump-and-biden-debate-before-presidential-election?tid=1719425540030

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Quote from: cabron on June 23, 2024, 01:13:08 PM

Quote from: stompix on June 23, 2024, 07:55:30 AM

Quote from: cabron on June 19, 2024, 12:56:51 PM

Don't you guys think Putin loves that they are ruining Trump's reputation?
We hear it all the time Trump is a Putin's Dog but putting Trump as president will not be an advantage for Putin since Trump is going to stop the war.

Yeah lol, what will he do it, build a wall? Oh wait!
This is the guy that moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, threw 100 rockets at Syria because why not, and decided on a whim to turn the highest ranking general in Iran, their national hero in kebab cause he wanted to prove a thing. And you expect him to end a war? Yeah right!
He's the same guy that put gas on fire when congratulating the Taiwan president just because he wanted to piss China!

Anyhow, anyone taking bets this far ahead of the election is more than just gambling, remember how Trump was a favorite to win and got trashed in the last months, just as Clinton was far ahead in the polls only to lose basically in the last few strides. Anything can happen, and despite Trump's advantage a stagnation in inflation or continuous decrease is going to erode his voters as most are voting for him not because of his policies but because they are pissed at Biden.

The odds are very far from what it was then:

If Trump still loses this time. I guess this is all still going to end up like how it was in the last election. But still, I doubt Biden will win knowing that he will be debating against Trump this June 27. This will be on Thursday. Seeing Biden as a meme himself, this will be a funny debate. I will be surprised if the old man won't walk like a zombie. Memecoins I think are about to skyrocket.

Hehehe agreed. On the odds, I reckon that Trump's odds will become more lower after the debate because the confidence on Biden will decrease further. However, the fight is not on convincing the the Biden supporters to begin their support on Trump or convincing the Trump supporters to support Biden. It is the swing voters who will give the victory for one of these candidates. This will change and give the lead to Trump sometimes and also on other times it will give it to Biden. This will be a very suspenseful campaign considering that there is a war in Ukraine and the Middle East. They will very much have different foreign policies and it will be very head shaking if Trump is the winner because he will be the president to encourage the stoppage of the war in Ukraine and the Middle East. China however will be Trump's enemy hehehehehehe.

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I would assume that because the third candidate, no matter how great of a candidate it may look like, would simply not be all that much of a good chance to win, because people know that if they vote for that third candidate instead of the other two, then they are just giving the competition the vote.

So, let's assume that you normally would vote for Biden, if you vote for third candidate instead, you would be giving Trump the election, that's why it doesn't work. The best solution to this? Separate and close down the parties. That way, it will not be just two party regime, if you dissolve republican party and democrat party, and make people start over again, I guarantee you that it won't be just two parties this time, there would be many more.

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Quote from: stompix on June 23, 2024, 07:55:30 AM

Quote from: cabron on June 19, 2024, 12:56:51 PM

Don't you guys think Putin loves that they are ruining Trump's reputation?
We hear it all the time Trump is a Putin's Dog but putting Trump as president will not be an advantage for Putin since Trump is going to stop the war.

Yeah lol, what will he do it, build a wall? Oh wait!
This is the guy that moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, threw 100 rockets at Syria because why not, and decided on a whim to turn the highest ranking general in Iran, their national hero in kebab cause he wanted to prove a thing. And you expect him to end a war? Yeah right!
He's the same guy that put gas on fire when congratulating the Taiwan president just because he wanted to piss China!

Anyhow, anyone taking bets this far ahead of the election is more than just gambling, remember how Trump was a favorite to win and got trashed in the last months, just as Clinton was far ahead in the polls only to lose basically in the last few strides. Anything can happen, and despite Trump's advantage a stagnation in inflation or continuous decrease is going to erode his voters as most are voting for him not because of his policies but because they are pissed at Biden.

The odds are very far from what it was then:

If Trump still loses this time. I guess this is all still going to end up like how it was in the last election. But still, I doubt Biden will win knowing that he will be debating against Trump this June 27. This will be on Thursday. Seeing Biden as a meme himself, this will be a funny debate. I will be surprised if the old man won't walk like a zombie. Memecoins I think are about to skyrocket.

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Quote from: cabron on June 19, 2024, 12:56:51 PM

Don't you guys think Putin loves that they are ruining Trump's reputation?
We hear it all the time Trump is a Putin's Dog but putting Trump as president will not be an advantage for Putin since Trump is going to stop the war.

Yeah lol, what will he do, build a wall? Oh wait!
This is the guy that moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, threw 100 rockets at Syria because why not, and decided on a whim to turn the highest ranking general in Iran, their national hero in kebab cause he wanted to prove a thing. And you expect him to end a war? Yeah right!
He's the same guy that put gas on fire when congratulating the Taiwan president just because he wanted to piss China!

Anyhow, anyone taking bets this far ahead of the election is more than just gambling, remember how Trump was a favorite to win and got trashed in the last months, just as Clinton was far ahead in the polls only to lose basically in the last few strides. Anything can happen, and despite Trump's advantage a stagnation in inflation or continuous decrease is going to erode his voters as most are voting for him not because of his policies but because they are pissed at Biden.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 21, 2024, 09:05:35 PM

Here is the more pathetic. If there was a very qualified candidate who will run as a third candidate, I am quite very much so certain that much of the people will vote for Trump or Biden and leave less than 10% of votes to the qualified candidate hehehehe. Who is the most pathetic on this setting? It is certainly the voters. It will be much better to stay home and watch cartoons on election day.

Since the US is having a two-party system, it doesn't make any sense to vote for a third party candidate. To be more specific, there is always an option to vote for a number of candidates outside the two mainstream parties in every single POTUS elections. There are candidates from the Libertarian Party, Green Party, Alliance Party, Constitution Party, American Solidarity Party and dozens of other minor parties taking part in these elections. But a vote for any of them would be waste, as they have zero chance of winning the elections.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 20, 2024, 03:49:47 PM

Trump and Biden are two pathetic presidential candidates. Why did people have to choose these two politicians. This is a very bad situation. They may be the worst candidates in the history of America. When I look at the polls, Trump is ahead and the betting odds support the polls.

Biden is vulnerable with voters because of his health problems and illegal immigration has increased too much. Trump's populist rhetoric is working with the electorate and if I were to bet on the US elections, Trump would be my choice. Trump voters are more consolidated and Biden voters are divided. But outside of betting, neither candidate is right for America. Finally, the odds offered by bookmakers for the presidential race are satisfactory.

Here is the more pathetic. If there was a very qualified candidate who will run as a third candidate, I am quite very much so certain that much of the people will vote for Trump or Biden and leave less than 10% of votes to the qualified candidate hehehehe. Who is the most pathetic on this setting? It is certainly the voters. It will be much better to stay home and watch cartoons on election day.

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Quote from: Taskford on June 21, 2024, 04:15:58 AM

I guess its their parties decision since both of the guys are the most influential name in politics and maybe they still see the relevance of the number of theirs supporters that's the reason their names floats up this upcoming 2024 US election.

But I guess people don't have a choice since both guy is at the top of the chain so I guess they will not waste their vote and cast it to those who they think have higher chance to win and also who can bring another good changes especially that there are lots of issues their country is currently facing. Maybe people don't like Biden to retake his set but Trump should not play cool since there's still a high chance that people's attention will shift that's why he need to do all he can and provide amazing plans or vision on how they could able to lift up their country since for sure lots of people get tired of lots of bullshits happening in their country. For now will listen to the pulse of people and I may also place my bet to Trump since I think for now he has the higher chance to win.

That is the problem with politics, they do not elect the people who would be best choices for the nation, they nominated the people who have the highest potential of getting votes. I mean does ANY democrat even think that Biden is the best candidate to be the president again for another four years?

I think all of them knows that this is only because he has the biggest chance to beat Trump, nobody else has higher chance than Biden, no matter how much they think Biden isn't fit to run, they still support him and vote for him because that's all they have.

Same goes for Trump, surely there are some weird republicans who like him more than any other candidate, but even a moron would know that you can find a better president if you just randomly throw a rock and it hits a random person because that random person would run the nation better than Trump even if their hands were tied behind their back for 4 years. These two, are only there because they have a chance to win it, not because they are the best options.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 20, 2024, 03:49:47 PM

Trump and Biden are two pathetic presidential candidates. Why did people have to choose these two politicians. This is a very bad situation. They may be the worst candidates in the history of America. When I look at the polls, Trump is ahead and the betting odds support the polls.

Biden is vulnerable with voters because of his health problems and illegal immigration has increased too much. Trump's populist rhetoric is working with the electorate and if I were to bet on the US elections, Trump would be my choice. Trump voters are more consolidated and Biden voters are divided. But outside of betting, neither candidate is right for America. Finally, the odds offered by bookmakers for the presidential race are satisfactory.

I guess its their parties decision since both of the guys are the most influential name in politics and maybe they still see the relevance of the number of theirs supporters that's the reason their names floats up this upcoming 2024 US election.

But I guess people don't have a choice since both guy is at the top of the chain so I guess they will not waste their vote and cast it to those who they think have higher chance to win and also who can bring another good changes especially that there are lots of issues their country is currently facing. Maybe people don't like Biden to retake his set but Trump should not play cool since there's still a high chance that people's attention will shift that's why he need to do all he can and provide amazing plans or vision on how they could able to lift up their country since for sure lots of people get tired of lots of bullshits happening in their country. For now will listen to the pulse of people and I may also place my bet to Trump since I think for now he has the higher chance to win.

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The problem with keeping Biden as the candidate is the fact that Trump was doing worse for a while, he was really looking like he might lose even to Biden, but anytime he is out in the wild, like any parade or talk or summit whatever, when you see Biden, you know that he is not going to be able to rule over a nation for another four years, let alone a nation as big as USA, I am pretty sure he doesn't even rule the nation right now, people around him does.

Trump is a POS but at least he has his mind, well he is a moron but still he IS a moron, not mush potatoes. People are not willing to vote for Biden right now, ANY other candidate would be better, even if they lose, at least it would be a fair fight between Trump and someone else.

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Quote from: karabiber on June 20, 2024, 03:49:47 PM

Trump and Biden are two pathetic presidential candidates. Why did people have to choose these two politicians. This is a very bad situation. They may be the worst candidates in the history of America. When I look at the polls, Trump is ahead and the betting odds support the polls.

Biden is vulnerable with voters because of his health problems and illegal immigration has increased too much. Trump's populist rhetoric is working with the electorate and if I were to bet on the US elections, Trump would be my choice. Trump voters are more consolidated and Biden voters are divided. But outside of betting, neither candidate is right for America. Finally, the odds offered by bookmakers for the presidential race are satisfactory.

LOL.. how can you say that Trump voters are united and Biden voters are divided? First of all, there are no Trump and Biden voters. Unlike the case with 2016 and 2020 POTUS elections, the focus has shifted to party policies. Individual reputation is no more important. Republicans are solidly behind Trump (since he has secured the nomination) and Biden has the rock-hard support of the left-wing voters. This time, the election will be fought over policies such as immigration, inflation, economy and war on Ukraine. That means that voting intentions will be based on the party affiliation.

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Trump and Biden are two pathetic presidential candidates. Why did people have to choose these two politicians. This is a very bad situation. They may be the worst candidates in the history of America. When I look at the polls, Trump is ahead and the betting odds support the polls.

Biden is vulnerable with voters because of his health problems and illegal immigration has increased too much. Trump's populist rhetoric is working with the electorate and if I were to bet on the US elections, Trump would be my choice. Trump voters are more consolidated and Biden voters are divided. But outside of betting, neither candidate is right for America. Finally, the odds offered by bookmakers for the presidential race are satisfactory.

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Quote from: Hispo on June 18, 2024, 06:56:17 PM

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The bet on Trump might be in danger since I heard they are trying to dump Biden and replace him with someone. Although I'm not sure if the one they pick will win, I think it's Newsom. With money and how they can sell the guy for votes, Trump's presidency is unsure and still, they may even imprison him too.

I doubt the democrat party would dare to replace Biden as their candidate, to be honest. They have already done much campaign, they have received millions of dollars onto the image of Biden. Even if Biden continued to misbehave and act out in public, he still have a good chance to defeat Trump.
We are already months away from election day, so all the democrat party can do about Biden and the bad media he could be receiving from Fox and News max is to mitigate and counter attack frontally, quite similar in the manner they did then Biden dared Trump to debate him on national Television.
Besides, if Biden gets swapped by other candidate, it could be used by Republicans to "confirm" Biden was nothing but a puppet.Democrats do not like conspiracy theories.

They haven't done that much "campaign" to be fair, he is the sitting president right now (mostly sitting lol) and that is why many people think that they can't really make it change all that much, it just doesn't work that much for them. He is already expected to get the nomination, so campaigning is not something he did.

What I believe is that they won't replace him unless they absolutely have to, because they know that anyone who gets the nomination at the last minute, will not have time to campaign and go around the nation like they should, which would mean that they would lose against Trump because they didn't get enough voters. So nobody would want to be the nominee if Biden steps down, hence why it would create such a big trouble.

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The bet on Trump might be in danger since I heard they are trying to dump Biden and replace him with someone. Although I'm not sure if the one they pick will win, I think it's Newsom. With money and how they can sell the guy for votes, Trump's presidency is unsure and still, they may even imprison him too.

I doubt the democrat party would dare to replace Biden as their candidate, to be honest. They have already done much campaign, they have received millions of dollars onto the image of Biden. Even if Biden continued to misbehave and act out in public, he still have a good chance to defeat Trump.
We are already months away from election day, so all the democrat party can do about Biden and the bad media he could be receiving from Fox and News max is to mitigate and counter attack frontally, quite similar in the manner they did then Biden dared Trump to debate him on national Television.
Besides, if Biden gets swapped by other candidate, it could be used by Republicans to "confirm" Biden was nothing but a puppet.Democrats do not like conspiracy theories.

They just need good marketing techniques and something black propaganda to use to destroy the reputation of Trump. But they cannot easily do that knowing that Trumps camp is being adaptive and try all methods which can possibly help his campaign and get good image again. For what I see Trump is crowd favorite maybe due to his latest pro bitcoin actions done and many people think that US will became a crypto friendly if he became the President of US again.

But I'm not hoping for any more larger than what he promise knowing politician they are professional liars. Let see what action does Republican do since they really need good PR to make the name of Biden became good to the eyes of voters again.

Don't you guys think Putin loves that they are ruining Trump's reputation?
We hear it all the time Trump is a Putin's Dog but putting Trump as president will not be an advantage for Putin since Trump is going to stop the war. And Trump is much more respected in other countries than Biden. Putin wants a weak America and of course, it makes sense for him if Biden wins. He would rather want Biden to be re-elected.

It is as if crypto is widely adopted actually that people are already saying this is a crypto election, the more these presidents promise something for crypto, the more people vote for them. Trump owes a lot of promises already before he can even sit.

I thought it had been already proven the Kremlin is actively seeking to influence the American population through social media, so Trump is elected again?
Trump would not be as friendly as so people believe he would be to Russia, but he would be ready to push Ukraine to give up land in exchange for peace with Russia, which is exactly what Putin wants. Russian troll farms are real and not to be underestimated.
Biden is tough on Russia, otherwise he would have not sent military aid to Ukraine and would have focused completely on the domestic problems of the Average American resident. don't you think?
The respect people may have worldwide for Trump comes rather from his status as pop culture personality than as politician and what he have managed to achieve during his administration.

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