If there was ever a path for Rep win, full redemption arc from Trump conviction to shaking it off this is it. In my mind all they did to Biden in 2024 was a repeat of the trick they pulled on him in 2016 and funnily enough its going to result in the same way with a Trump win.
In 2016 they refused to back the most logical choice, the VP and Biden would have won in 2016 imo and would just this year be finishing his 2nd term. Though I will concede it could mean the 2020 election was lost because of the recession etc. But yep to me its a repeat.
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Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia.
With his long political career and his very high age now, it's time for him to retire as a President and as politician. It is not good for himself to try to engage with one of most stressful positions on this planet. He should retire as many elderly do and don't try to bind himself with a powerful position and thinking like he must continue it to save the country.Other people can do it better than Biden if he steps down, which he announced to do hours ago. Kamala Harris can bring more energy and smoothness for the President Election this year and she might fail but she is a better representative for the Democratic Party in this competition against Trump and Republican Party.
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I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote.
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I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
It's a year for Trump as I see very few signals that can make him fails in this Election. 
Certainly any candidate was better than Biden, who looked like he would either not make it to the election or would arrive in an even more advanced state of dementia. I see that Harris can attract the feminist vote and the so-called racialized vote. I still think Trump is the favorite, but as it all comes down to swing states we will have to see.
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To be fair, endorsing Kamala Harris is the second most democratic thing Joe Biden could had done when dropping out the race, to be honest. I say it because (to some extent) people actually voter for both him and Kamala to be the head of the party in these incoming elections, so it is not like Biden went off the rails and endorsed someone who was not already on the ticket and people voted for. The first most democratic thing Biden could had done was calling for a convention or an open inner election/primaries within the democrat party, so the people could choose their candidate.
I don't want to be a killjoy for those who like Harris as a candidate, but I believe the United States is not ready at all yet to choose a brown woman as their president. If Kamala ends up being the selected candidate, then Trump is still very likely to win this race with a good margin...
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To be fair, endorsing Kamala Harris is the second most democratic thing Joe Biden could had done when dropping out the race, to be honest. I say it because (to some extent) people actually voter for both him and Kamala to be the head of the party in these incoming elections, so it is not like Biden went off the rails and endorsed someone who was not already on the ticket and people voted for. The first most democratic thing Biden could had done was calling for a convention or an open inner election/primaries within the democrat party, so the people could choose their candidate.
I don't want to be a killjoy for those who like Harris as a candidate, but I believe the United States is not ready at all yet to choose a brown woman as their president. If Kamala ends up being the selected candidate, then Trump is still very likely to win this race with a good margin...
That's because democracy and elections are all about populism. Trump is hugely popular among people and it is because he knows how to attract people's attention. Not just Trump, every politician promises prosperity, wealth, higher wages, better social security, better education, better security... That has been the game since the Roman Republic...
Sometimes, a mishap could turn out to be a blessing in ten folds for anyone at all.... Trump was shot few days ago and that has increased his popularity and the whole US-based attention is focused on him. I don't think it was the case prior to the incident; for the fact that they plotted a coup to eliminate him and it was unsuccessful should teach everyone a lesson and prove to them that there's a high chance of having him taking over the position again..And there it is biden us out. Wonder how the books deal with this. Do the bets on Joe get returned since he is official a "dnp"? Dems know they are weak right now I can't see trump not winning now. There is only a couple months to go, no clue how they get momentum in swing states.
Joe isn't gonna return and that's it... Why does it feel like he's pulling out because he doesn't wanna be labeled an allegation over the uninvestigated crime? Why?.. I mean, am I just being too paranoid or something?? 
They return money on a Biden bet ? really, I figured a withdrawal, poor health, death any reason is a lost bet. Or maybe specific terms is going to protect people because it happened early not after the official nomination like Trump just got.
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
Though he contracted Covid, but I don't think that's the strong reason why he is getting out of this presidential race. It is more on his competency to hold the office. And it is how he will perform as a high-ranking official in the eyes of public. Just like how he did in the Presidential debate. Time to retire and enjoy the remaining days of his life. No need to stress himself with this big responsibility.
He already announced his withdrawal from this campaign, so the bookies should really return the money on Biden's bet.
Source: How Joe Biden's Family Reacted to Him Dropping Out
They return money on a Biden bet ? really, I figured a withdrawal, poor health, death any reason is a lost bet. Or maybe specific terms is going to protect people because it happened early not after the official nomination like Trump just got.
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
I honestly favor Rep to win this election at this point, I dont think they should have forced Biden out despite appearances. My other thought is Biden has covid and is seriously in bad health hence he changed his mind on continuing. The recent iterations of covid are not as serious as 2020 but I presume due to old age its a possible scenario.
Im not against Kamala btw, Im not for or against any of the candidates especially thats not how bets are won. My very blunt judgement goes with just how well known they are, years in the job, momentum. Something as 'simple' as writing a book probably puts Vance ahead for example as we saw in '08 with Obama
Trump had the wind at his back after the recent events and was ahead in the polls. But in my opinion, there was a shocking development and Biden announced that he is withdrawing from the presidential race and will support Kamala Harris. I don't think Harris has a chance in the Trump - Harris contest. America has real problems and none of them matter to Harris. If America wants to achieve the MAGA ideal, it will elect Trump. Even if the odds change, I think Trump is still far ahead in this race.
This change will definitely increase the votes of the democrats. After all, wasn't this what that group wanted? The change of the presidential candidate was and it was expected. I think it would make a small difference, but it doesn't seem like Harris will win. The majority support Trump in the USA, as it is known that the deteriorating economy is one of the biggest reasons. If there are no surprises, Trump will be president. What I wonder is what Trump will be able to do and what he will not be able to do when he becomes president.
Safe to say that Trump has officially won the election. Biden was his biggest opponent and he has just pulled out of the race.
I want to say that until it's official but it's true that Trump is about to win the race and even Biden endorses Kamala Harris, I don't think that she's gonna win against Trump. And there it is biden us out. Wonder how the books deal with this. Do the bets on Joe get returned since he is official a "dnp"? Dems know they are weak right now I can't see trump not winning now. There is only a couple months to go, no clue how they get momentum in swing states.
Since the election hasn't happened yet, I think that those bets on Joe will be returned and that's a good riddance for those that have believed on him and bet on him especially the huge amounts. Around 3.5 months remain for the POTUS elections. And till now we don't know who is going to be the Democrat candidate. It is almost certain that Joe Biden will drop out of the race. But then, who will replace him? Alex Jones of Infowars (who was recently reinstated in Twitter) came up with a ridiculous story that Hillary Clinton is going to replace Joe Biden as the Democrat nominee. Others are rooting for Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. Others in the fray are Michelle Obama, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Pete Buttigieg.
And Joe Biden just did, as for Michelle Obama, she's not in the eye. She's not charismatic. 
And there it is biden us out. Wonder how the books deal with this. Do the bets on Joe get returned since he is official a "dnp"? Dems know they are weak right now I can't see trump not winning now. There is only a couple months to go, no clue how they get momentum in swing states.
Most likely, they would settle it asap since Biden has "officially" confirmed that he is out of the race. Only in extreme cases we're going to see bookies wait till the election is over in order to settle the bets.
Safe to say that Trump has officially won the election. Biden was his biggest opponent and he has just pulled out of the race.
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They are gonna unleash Michelle Obama
They are gonna unleash Michelle Obama
Even though Michelle is "unleashed", there's no way she's going to generate enough traction like Biden would've done. That's a big blow to Democrats and a little too late to start pooling resources for a new party candidate.
Trump had the wind at his back after the recent events and was ahead in the polls. But in my opinion, there was a shocking development and Biden announced that he is withdrawing from the presidential race and will support Kamala Harris. I don't think Harris has a chance in the Trump - Harris contest. America has real problems and none of them matter to Harris. If America wants to achieve the MAGA ideal, it will elect Trump. Even if the odds change, I think Trump is still far ahead in this race.
So there’s this tweet from John Mcafees twitter page about some time traveler from Russia who can back and said that Joe Biden would be declared unfit for office and that the Democratic Party would install someone, and everyone said Big Mike in the comments lol. Harris ain’t got a shot man she’s like the sorority girl who hasn’t got a clue and just laughs and smiles and is a complete idiot. They are gonna unleash Michelle Obama
Trump had the wind at his back after the recent events and was ahead in the polls. But in my opinion, there was a shocking development and Biden announced that he is withdrawing from the presidential race and will support Kamala Harris. I don't think Harris has a chance in the Trump - Harris contest. America has real problems and none of them matter to Harris. If America wants to achieve the MAGA ideal, it will elect Trump. Even if the odds change, I think Trump is still far ahead in this race.
Weeeelll, that was a bit obvious lol 
Now the question is, who are we getting as the nominee? I guess Kamala Harris has the biggest hype out of them all, not saying she will be but looks like Biden endorsed her and seems like it would be the smart money. I would guess at this late stage of the show, there is absolutely no way that she can win it, to be fair I do not see anyone can win it, we can just bag it for Trump at this point. Which isn't really that good, because we are going to see the whole Project 2025 creeps coming out of the shadows now that they know they got it, and that's going to be scary for Americans. Betting odds will not become terrible, Trump to win could be as low as 1.40 or lower at this point.
Now the question is, who are we getting as the nominee? I guess Kamala Harris has the biggest hype out of them all, not saying she will be but looks like Biden endorsed her and seems like it would be the smart money. I would guess at this late stage of the show, there is absolutely no way that she can win it, to be fair I do not see anyone can win it, we can just bag it for Trump at this point. Which isn't really that good, because we are going to see the whole Project 2025 creeps coming out of the shadows now that they know they got it, and that's going to be scary for Americans. Betting odds will not become terrible, Trump to win could be as low as 1.40 or lower at this point. 
Biden dropped out of the race and immediately endorsed Harris... This says a lot about how undemocratic presidential nominations by the two big parties in the US are.
When they had gone through the entire process of primaries to select a candidate, now the presidential ticket for their party is going to be represented by someone no one voted for?
Probably the same would have been done with Republicans if he had dropped out so don't get me wrong. But really I think in this occasion Biden dropping out and endorsing a candidate instead of calling for renowned primaries or a democratic process... Makes democrats look bad and likely will further avert votes from them. On the bright side the "old man" counter argument against the democratic ticket is gone. But also so are everybody's bets that put money on Biden. My condolences
When they had gone through the entire process of primaries to select a candidate, now the presidential ticket for their party is going to be represented by someone no one voted for?
Probably the same would have been done with Republicans if he had dropped out so don't get me wrong. But really I think in this occasion Biden dropping out and endorsing a candidate instead of calling for renowned primaries or a democratic process... Makes democrats look bad and likely will further avert votes from them. On the bright side the "old man" counter argument against the democratic ticket is gone. But also so are everybody's bets that put money on Biden. My condolences
And there it is biden us out. Wonder how the books deal with this. Do the bets on Joe get returned since he is official a "dnp"? Dems know they are weak right now I can't see trump not winning now. There is only a couple months to go, no clue how they get momentum in swing states.
Unfortunately elections have always included an element of appearance and showmanship, and we know this is true as this has been the case even on Athens where democracy was born, also the attempt at Trump’s life will give him a huge advantage over Biden when converting opinion into people that actually vote, as more than ever his followers are determined to follow his cause, so I am sure many of them are willing to wait for as long as necessary in order to cast their vote, while in the case of the Biden we are not even sure if he is going to remain the candidate.
Biden is officially out. Democrats took a long time to reach the inevitable decision. If Biden doesn't fit the candidate role, how could he still fit the role of president for the following months yet, until next year? At the current point, doesn't matter what Democrats decide doing, there will be heavy critics against them. Trump is only getting stronger, while Democrats stumble on their own feet. Probably the only one who could have a chance to defeat Trump on this election would be Obama, if he could be the candidate. 
Whoever took a bet on Biden you're not going to like what the bookies think right now:
Told ya
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/21/biden-to-drop-out-of-2024-presidential-race.html
As for the future nominee, not that much of a surpise
I wonder how much the bookies made out of this since for sure not all of them if any will return the bets.
They want to bring their circus around. I agree that Trump did not do all things right but such convictions are purely combined personal attacks with intention to knock Trump down before the President Election. So far, they failed and with only some months left, I won't believe they will succeed to knock Trump down.
Biden must look at himself and be realistic with his health, physically, mentally and intelligently then make right decisions for himself, his party and the whole country. The Democrats party try to attack Trump but I see the same like you, they maybe will see backfires from their initiatives. Abusing it won't help the Democrats party to win in this President Election especially swing voters will have more reasons to swing towards Republic party and Trump.
Biden must look at himself and be realistic with his health, physically, mentally and intelligently then make right decisions for himself, his party and the whole country. The Democrats party try to attack Trump but I see the same like you, they maybe will see backfires from their initiatives. Abusing it won't help the Democrats party to win in this President Election especially swing voters will have more reasons to swing towards Republic party and Trump.
Around 3.5 months remain for the POTUS elections. And till now we don't know who is going to be the Democrat candidate. It is almost certain that Joe Biden will drop out of the race. But then, who will replace him? Alex Jones of Infowars (who was recently reinstated in Twitter) came up with a ridiculous story that Hillary Clinton is going to replace Joe Biden as the Democrat nominee. Others are rooting for Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. Others in the fray are Michelle Obama, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Pete Buttigieg.
Reading articles like this makes me laugh:
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-cnn-reporting-women/
Democrats are now complaining that media aren't giving more visibility to Trump's conviction. Makes me wonder, didn't the Biden administration think for one second that their plan could backfire?
Judge shopping and throwing the book at the ex president just to give him as many convictions as possible made the Biden administration look so bad that now nobody pays attention to the justice system when it comes to Trump. The man now literally has so many convictions that he makes it part of his official campaign, saying he's the first black president...
They want to bring their circus around. I agree that Trump did not do all things right but such convictions are purely combined personal attacks with intention to knock Trump down before the President Election. So far, they failed and with only some months left, I won't believe they will succeed to knock Trump down.https://www.rawstory.com/trump-cnn-reporting-women/
Democrats are now complaining that media aren't giving more visibility to Trump's conviction. Makes me wonder, didn't the Biden administration think for one second that their plan could backfire?
Judge shopping and throwing the book at the ex president just to give him as many convictions as possible made the Biden administration look so bad that now nobody pays attention to the justice system when it comes to Trump. The man now literally has so many convictions that he makes it part of his official campaign, saying he's the first black president...
Biden must look at himself and be realistic with his health, physically, mentally and intelligently then make right decisions for himself, his party and the whole country. The Democrats party try to attack Trump but I see the same like you, they maybe will see backfires from their initiatives. Abusing it won't help the Democrats party to win in this President Election especially swing voters will have more reasons to swing towards Republic party and Trump.
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