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Quote from: rosezionjohn on November 25, 2019, 12:40:33 PM

Quote from: acroman08 on November 25, 2019, 12:03:36 PM

I don't really think an apology is enough Cayetano should move quickly and fix the problems.

Those issues were done and were already handled. Other than Cambodia and East Timor, the handling of the arrivals of other teams went good as far as I know.

Quote from: acroman08 on November 25, 2019, 12:03:36 PM

the issue may not be a big deal for you but it is a big deal especially for the athletes. this mess could affect their overall performance in Sea Games.

That's going too far. Those are athletes who are trained to focus on the game and not on minor hiccups like what happened on their arrival. It's hard to imagine any team blaming what happened when they arrived to be the cause of their loss.

Quote from: acroman08 on November 25, 2019, 12:03:36 PM

also, the media mostly reporting only the negative is to show how incompetent the organizers in the 2019 sea games, but I agree the media is focusing too much on the negative.

That's because negative news sells.

the arrival isn't the only issue. the latest issue is about food, logistics. if you think these issues are a "minor hiccups" then you haven't been in enough tournaments to see how those "minor hiccups" can build-up
and eventually, affect the athletes even if they are trained to focus on the game. you should also realize that a lot of the athletes participating in 2019 sea games are still teenagers. also, the Thai football team had to
rent a stadium where they could train properly since the renovation of the stadium where they should be training is not done. again, these "minor hiccups" will build up and affect the athletes.

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 25, 2019, 12:03:36 PM

I don't really think an apology is enough Cayetano should move quickly and fix the problems.

Those issues were done and were already handled. Other than Cambodia and East Timor, the handling of the arrivals of other teams went good as far as I know.

Quote from: acroman08 on November 25, 2019, 12:03:36 PM

the issue may not be a big deal for you but it is a big deal especially for the athletes. this mess could affect their overall performance in Sea Games.

That's going too far. Those are athletes who are trained to focus on the game and not on minor hiccups like what happened on their arrival. It's hard to imagine any team blaming what happened when they arrived to be the cause of their loss.

Quote from: acroman08 on November 25, 2019, 12:03:36 PM

also, the media mostly reporting only the negative is to show how incompetent the organizers in the 2019 sea games, but I agree the media is focusing too much on the negative.

That's because negative news sells.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 25, 2019, 06:27:42 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

According to Cayetano, they are just humans and they make mistakes, but they already apologies and I don't think its really a big issue at all.
We are hosting an event so its normal to face some problem, and what I like about the media in the Philippines is they keep to reporting negative news instead of the good ones.

I don't really think an apology is enough Cayetano should move quickly and fix the problems. the issue may not be a big deal for you but it is a big deal especially for the athletes.
this mess could affect their overall performance in Sea Games. also, the media mostly reporting only the negative is to show how incompetent the organizers in the 2019 sea games,
but I agree the media is focusing too much on the negative.

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I think Philippines will be rank 1 overall there is a big advantage of the home team, our players need to focus
they should not think of what is going on outside the court and focus , on their category , there are lots of issues is going on
but they need to keep distance on it, Philippine players have prepare for this , also the crowd will help even the climate is on our side
so yes philippines will be number 1 over all after the event is finish and the medals are awarded, good luck ! team philippines

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 07:13:09 AM

Quote from: Japinat on November 25, 2019, 06:27:42 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

According to Cayetano, they are just humans and they make mistakes, but they already apologies and I don't think its really a big issue at all.
We are hosting an event so its normal to face some problem, and what I like about the media in the Philippines is they keep to reporting negative news instead of the good ones.

I know mate, but they are given ample time to prepare for this and knowing the timeline of the events, these kind of issue shouldn't be taken carelessly. Apologize can be accepted but this incident is probably be remember by the people that got affected.

I'm just bit disappointed with DFA response towards this.

East Timor Team arrived too early for their schedule which is why they have to wait that long and then due to traffic they arrive in their hotel too late as well. The media is making the a big fuzz when this is just too little to post in the news paper that it won't hurt the Philippines, if teams had problems, its suppose to be reported to the organizers. When Philippines goes to Olympics and sea games, Filipino teams bring with them a cook for we don't get use to eat burgers all the time, we are rice eaters.

These issues are being politicize since SEA games is Duterte's achievement again. They don't like Duterte to achieve anything including this build build build program but its very visible to all.

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Quote from: Eclipse26 on November 24, 2019, 12:33:36 AM

My vote would be bias of course. I would go for the Philippines since I'm from the Philippines. Not only because it's my country, but also because I can see the potentials of the Philippines representatives. Looking at the records and standing, the Philippines has the capability in competing with the other countries. Also, it's an advantage for the Philippines since they'll be hosting the said event, knowing the support of co-fellow Filipinos are stronger... But I know it won't be an easy fight for PH since other Asian countries are good as well.

Also one the advantage is having almost all participants with all the offered games, this one of those disadvantage when this tournament being held to other countries as the sports commissions don't have enough budget. Now that this will be held here I can say that Philippines can take the
second or first slot. Good luck to all the representative take the glory in front of the Filipino crowd.

The big event with big fun has arrived. Philippines is a good country and can definitely handle budgets well. Though some people hold the opinion, it lacks the support but the event would be more exciting than everyone’s expectation. As a spectator, our main focus is the number of games and opponents participating. Having sports from swimming to chess, it covers all the flavors. Gamblers would also be looking forward to every match certainly.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 25, 2019, 06:27:42 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

According to Cayetano, they are just humans and they make mistakes, but they already apologies and I don't think its really a big issue at all.
We are hosting an event so its normal to face some problem, and what I like about the media in the Philippines is they keep to reporting negative news instead of the good ones.

issues like this should not be the main focus now because our athletes need more attention than this "Obviously Political movement towards next Election" it has been explained that mistakes can happen and the HOSPITALITY issue?lol even in other countries things like this happens but the main target is this Cauldron that will remain as Symbol from this generation onward and this is not overspending the opposition will not stop looking for mistakes of the government but their own trouble cannot address truthfully ,being a host country we must create the state of the art Cauldron and this is just being exaggerating because they can't throw stone to the administration thats why even small details is a big issue for them.anyway whats new?this is Philippine Politics.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 25, 2019, 06:27:42 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

According to Cayetano, they are just humans and they make mistakes, but they already apologies and I don't think its really a big issue at all.
We are hosting an event so its normal to face some problem, and what I like about the media in the Philippines is they keep to reporting negative news instead of the good ones.

not only according to him but almost people can say it and can understand it . mistakes do occur at all times especially on the big event like this because people are also excited . and about reporting neg news vs the good one ? lol that sucks to the reader or to the one's that see the new's . i think they should change that atitude because that affects the reputation of one's country . for the sea game's . goodluck to the participants , hope all are safe

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I am happy to find this thread, are members who reply only from Southeast Asia or are there from outside?

Indonesia (my country) can be said to have successfully held the Asian Games last year and the medal achievement also exceeded the target and to be honest it was very encouraging, but I can't predict wheter Indonesia in this SEA Games 30th can reach first place, hopefully if it can't be first ranked at least in the second place.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on November 22, 2019, 03:46:22 AM

Real talk here, how can the Philippine athletes perform better if the government instead of cheering for them, the anti-admin is throwing mud to the admin because of corruption in building the stadium. Just check the local news in the Philippines and see whats the story about SEA games and you will find over priced stadium being investigated and over priced contract handed to a Malaysian firm. Very little mention about the athletes.

I am still hoping for Philippines to make it at least on the top 3 if they cant make it to number 1. Philippines will be represented with 1,868 athletes.

You know what, Brazil Olimpics are problematic and arguably get a rejection from the community for spending large funds on building stadium, there will always be pros and cons.

I often read that governments in a country often do not care about athletes they only care about when there will be a tournament and forget about these athletes when they are finished, fortunately my current government is very concerned with athletes. Bonuses for athletes are given directly when a championship is finished and difficult to be manipulated because the funds are directly transferred to a bank account in the athlete's name not only to athletes but also to other official trainers

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

The Philippines are known for their hospitality and giving the guest the best and most convenience services, but they fail big time here, if it is a local event we can understand this, but this is a regional event, sad to say the commitees that oversee this is not only unprepared, but they acted as newbies and they are giving cheap service to athletes, this will have a negative impact on the Philippines.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 25, 2019, 06:39:03 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 23, 2019, 07:59:14 AM

It looks like Manny Pacquaio will open up the games:

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Pacquiao to have role in SEA Games opening ceremony, says Cayetano

MANILA, Philippines—Manny Pacquiao, one of the most notable Filipino athletes in the world, is expected to take part in the opening ceremony of the 30th Southeast Asian Games slated on Nov. 30 at Philippine Arena in Bocaue, Bulacan.

https://sports.inquirer.net/373326/pacquiao-to-have-role-in-sea-games-opening-ceremony-says-cayetano

I guess I have to agree that Pacquiao put the Philippines in the map again because of his boxing exploits up to this day. So it's just fitting that he will be given the honours by the Philippine government in this coming SEA games. I'm assuming he will lit the flames to officially start the games.

yeah it was mentioned in News by Cayetano that Manny Pacquiao will be the one who's Lighting the fire of the very controversial CAULDRON to symbolized the Start of the competition and i totally agreed on this because Senator Pacquiao is the most popular athlete of the Philippines if not the world.

Manny should be the one lighting the cauldron because he is well reknowned icon in sports. Though there is a controversy about this cauldron, it should not be an issue to be considered to ruin the country's reputation towards hosting the SEA Games.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 25, 2019, 06:27:42 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

According to Cayetano, they are just humans and they make mistakes, but they already apologies and I don't think its really a big issue at all.
We are hosting an event so its normal to face some problem, and what I like about the media in the Philippines is they keep to reporting negative news instead of the good ones.

I know mate, but they are given ample time to prepare for this and knowing the timeline of the events, these kind of issue shouldn't be taken carelessly. Apologize can be accepted but this incident is probably be remember by the people that got affected.

I'm just bit disappointed with DFA response towards this.

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Quote from: Jating on November 23, 2019, 07:59:14 AM

It looks like Manny Pacquaio will open up the games:

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Pacquiao to have role in SEA Games opening ceremony, says Cayetano

MANILA, Philippines—Manny Pacquiao, one of the most notable Filipino athletes in the world, is expected to take part in the opening ceremony of the 30th Southeast Asian Games slated on Nov. 30 at Philippine Arena in Bocaue, Bulacan.

https://sports.inquirer.net/373326/pacquiao-to-have-role-in-sea-games-opening-ceremony-says-cayetano

I guess I have to agree that Pacquiao put the Philippines in the map again because of his boxing exploits up to this day. So it's just fitting that he will be given the honours by the Philippine government in this coming SEA games. I'm assuming he will lit the flames to officially start the games.

yeah it was mentioned in News by Cayetano that Manny Pacquiao will be the one who's Lighting the fire of the very controversial CAULDRON to symbolized the Start of the competition and i totally agreed on this because Senator Pacquiao is the most popular athlete of the Philippines if not the world.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on November 25, 2019, 06:22:09 AM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

According to Cayetano, they are just humans and they make mistakes, but they already apologies and I don't think its really a big issue at all.
We are hosting an event so its normal to face some problem, and what I like about the media in the Philippines is they keep to reporting negative news instead of the good ones.

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/sea-games-philippines-apology-12121398

I think this is a mess up for Philippines as being host in the South East Asian Games. Many visitors and early arriving athletes have express their disappointment over the hospitality of the Host Country. Read the articles and me myself as one of the community of the Philippines has totally dissappointed with what happened. I hope President should take action on this faster than the news arrived cause it's really ashamed for those who arrived early and given not a good treatment.

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Quote from: Eclipse26 on November 24, 2019, 12:33:36 AM

My vote would be bias of course. I would go for the Philippines since I'm from the Philippines. Not only because it's my country, but also because I can see the potentials of the Philippines representatives. Looking at the records and standing, the Philippines has the capability in competing with the other countries. Also, it's an advantage for the Philippines since they'll be hosting the said event, knowing the support of co-fellow Filipinos are stronger... But I know it won't be an easy fight for PH since other Asian countries are good as well.

Also one the advantage is having almost all participants with all the offered games, this one of those disadvantage when this tournament being held to other countries as the sports commissions don't have enough budget. Now that this will be held here I can say that Philippines can take the
second or first slot. Good luck to all the representative take the glory in front of the Filipino crowd.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on November 22, 2019, 03:46:22 AM

Real talk here, how can the Philippine athletes perform better if the government instead of cheering for them, the anti-admin is throwing mud to the admin because of corruption in building the stadium. Just check the local news in the Philippines and see whats the story about SEA games and you will find over priced stadium being investigated and over priced contract handed to a Malaysian firm. Very little mention about the athletes.

I am still hoping for Philippines to make it at least on the top 3 if they cant make it to number 1. Philippines will be represented with 1,868 athletes.

Indeed they are more focus in other things rather than supporting the athletes and giving what they need to be able to have an edge for this competition. Based on the news the budget is quite huge but it doesnt reflect to whats currently happening.

I just hope philippines can stand out despite this since they are capable to have a chance to get the gold medals. Goodluck to all players.

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Quote from: Eclipse26 on November 24, 2019, 12:33:36 AM

My vote would be bias of course. I would go for the Philippines since I'm from the Philippines. Not only because it's my country, but also because I can see the potentials of the Philippines representatives. Looking at the records and standing, the Philippines has the capability in competing with the other countries. Also, it's an advantage for the Philippines since they'll be hosting the said event, knowing the support of co-fellow Filipinos are stronger... But I know it won't be an easy fight for PH since other Asian countries are good as well.

Let's be fair for all countries who participated this worldwide event, and as I've look at the potential of Philippines compared with other competing countries, I am also sighting their advantages since we're not aware yet on their performances. Let's always count on several possibilities, probably if Philippines couldn't make it towards the top I just predict the second or third place for them.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 24, 2019, 03:37:50 AM

Honestly, the sports facility in Tarlac won't be there because the athletes need it, it was just built because we are hosting the SEA games and we are trying to impress the other countries. 🤦🤦

Nonetheless, it can still be used after the event. Those athletes it that region will benefit from it. And it is an international standard because it was built for the SEA games.

Quote from: Casdinyard on November 24, 2019, 03:37:50 AM

Perhaps, this is from the previous administration's fault.

Philippine Sports has been in the sorry state long before the Duterte or the Aquino administration. We are just lucky there are still athletes who succeed even with minimal support. We hope that in this SEA games they become successful as well.

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