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Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 877. (Read 4382653 times)

legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1000
My money; Our Bitcoin.
As far as I'm aware there is no problem with doing so, you just have to implement the merged mining process into your pool software rather than some of the older (less efficient) methods that were done when merged mining was first being pushed.

Yes, it is clearly possible, although there's no docs for merged mining process and existing software and patch to older bitcoind is mostly hack to "get it work" instead of "get it work properly". I'll discuss this in #namecoin anyway. If there'll be somebody willing to help me with re-implementation of MM and removing dependency to bitcoind patches, I'll try to do it...

Thanks.  I feel there is much promise there, but perhaps not much need for it... yet.
And, as they say, it is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. 

Like slush, I'm considering dropping NMC support as well.  The project really does seem dead...

Quote from: H.P. Lovecraft
Whoever speaketh of Cthulhu shall remember that he
but seemeth dead, he sleeps, and yet he does not sleep,
he has died and yet he is not dead, asleep and dead
though he is, he shall rise again. Again it should be shown that

    That is not dead which can eternal lie,
    and with strange aeons even death may die.

 Grin

-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
I'd rather see merged mining go.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
As far as I'm aware there is no problem with doing so, you just have to implement the merged mining process into your pool software rather than some of the older (less efficient) methods that were done when merged mining was first being pushed.

Yes, it is clearly possible, although there's no docs for merged mining process and existing software and patch to older bitcoind is mostly hack to "get it work" instead of "get it work properly". I'll discuss this in #namecoin anyway. If there'll be somebody willing to help me with re-implementation of MM and removing dependency to bitcoind patches, I'll try to do it...
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
I'm considering to drop of NMC support, because this project is basically dead and current merged mining sources are incompatible with latest bitcoin development (no support for merged mining over getblocktemplate etc). There's no project development since merged mining has been introduced in last October...

What's the problem with using getblocktemplate for merged mining? I think that should work.

I agree namecoin seems dead, though. I wish they would at least fix the bugs they have that were fixed in bitcoin long ago.


As far as I'm aware there is no problem with doing so, you just have to implement the merged mining process into your pool software rather than some of the older (less efficient) methods that were done when merged mining was first being pushed.

Like slush, I'm considering dropping NMC support as well.  The project really does seem dead.  It was a great concept, but it feels like it should have been a fresh project rather than a fork off bitcoin.  There is simply far too little innovation compared to how much garbage has been dragged along for the ride.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 1034
Needs more jiggawatts
I'm considering to drop of NMC support, because this project is basically dead and current merged mining sources are incompatible with latest bitcoin development (no support for merged mining over getblocktemplate etc). There's no project development since merged mining has been introduced in last October...

What's the problem with using getblocktemplate for merged mining? I think that should work.

I agree namecoin seems dead, though. I wish they would at least fix the bugs they have that were fixed in bitcoin long ago.
hero member
Activity: 752
Merit: 500
bitcoin hodler
Zero namecoin rewards in the last 4 rounds?

That seems extremely odd.

namecoins are pretty useless anyway so I wouldn't make a big deal out of it Smiley

Not helpful, but hey, at least you got your opinion out there right?

right Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Zero namecoin rewards in the last 4 rounds?
That seems extremely odd.

Stratum pool don't have support for Namecoin (yet), so around 30% of hashpower isn't mining for Namecoin. Still you should have higher namecoin income than on other pools, because quite a lot people didn't filled NMC address...

I'm considering to drop of NMC support, because this project is basically dead and current merged mining sources are incompatible with latest bitcoin development (no support for merged mining over getblocktemplate etc). There's no project development since merged mining has been introduced in last October...
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Hello Slush, do you plan to implement some hopping proof method + will you share Bitcoin fees with pool miners once the BTC reward drop to 25BTC/block?

Yes and yes.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Old news man...

The short answer, is it's basically a result of pool hoppers.  they come in at the beginning of rounds hoping to capitalize on short rounds.  And on short rounds they do capitalize as you can see by the lower numbers.

Slush is currently working on a different scoring algorithm (double gemoetric or dgm) that is hopping proof.  Not sure of where he's as far as progress, he'll have to let you know on that end.

Hello Slush, do you plan to implement some hopping proof method + will you share Bitcoin fees with pool miners once the BTC reward drop to 25BTC/block?

hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Old news man...

The short answer, is it's basically a result of pool hoppers.  they come in at the beginning of rounds hoping to capitalize on short rounds.  And on short rounds they do capitalize as you can see by the lower numbers.

Slush is currently working on a different scoring algorithm (double gemoetric or dgm) that is hopping proof.  Not sure of where he's as far as progress, he'll have to let you know on that end.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Hi Slush, I am running cluster at about 21177 Mhash/s over Stratum 24/hours a day.
I am experiencing weird results:

In rounds that take less than 10 min,  I am getting in everage aprox 25% less BTC reward than in longer rounds.
Do you have an explanation for that?

14499    2012-10-28 21:04:57    3:19:28    6225948    0.47559232    205457    99 confirmations left
14498    2012-10-28 17:45:29    0:08:20    329669    0.36785404    205435    77 confirmations left
14497    2012-10-28 17:37:04    0:24:19    861367    0.46408428    205432    74 confirmations left
14496    2012-10-28 17:12:38    1:03:37    2085276    0.44666061    205429    71 confirmations left
14495    2012-10-28 16:08:52    2:39:19    5026981    0.47298015    205422    64 confirmations left
14494    2012-10-28 13:29:33    2:09:20    4109653    0.46649767    205398    40 confirmations left
14493    2012-10-28 11:20:13    1:04:48    2102209    0.46776012    205377    19 confirmations left
14492    2012-10-28 10:15:25    0:05:52    221440    0.37440259    205368    10 confirmations left
14491    2012-10-28 10:09:33    1:32:52    2902404    0.46973427    205366    8 confirmations left
14490    2012-10-28 08:36:35    0:08:10    309157    0.38314444    205353    confirmed
14489    2012-10-28 08:28:18    0:17:34    632768    0.44944079    205351    confirmed
14488    2012-10-28 08:10:38    1:10:27    2265815    0.45915052    205350    confirmed
14487    2012-10-28 07:00:05    0:10:25    390258    0.37391746    205343    confirmed
14486    2012-10-28 06:49:35    0:50:15    1631890    0.47672695    205342    confirmed
14485    2012-10-28 05:59:20    0:19:20    660704    0.46180293    205339    confirmed
14484    2012-10-28 05:39:52    4:10:25    7779746    0.48759257    205338    confirmed
14483    2012-10-28 01:29:21    0:08:08    309159    0.39049572    205318    confirmed

Dan
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Zero namecoin rewards in the last 4 rounds?

That seems extremely odd.

namecoins are pretty useless anyway so I wouldn't make a big deal out of it Smiley

Not helpful, but hey, at least you got your opinion out there right?
hero member
Activity: 752
Merit: 500
bitcoin hodler
Zero namecoin rewards in the last 4 rounds?

That seems extremely odd.

namecoins are pretty useless anyway so I wouldn't make a big deal out of it Smiley
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Zero namecoin rewards in the last 4 rounds?

That seems extremely odd.
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
Woohoo!

I knew I kept that old 5670 in the BAMT rig with the faster cards for a reason. It just found my first block (after mining for well over a year), block number 204492. About time...

Thralen
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
dangit. that'll break my share streak.. it's over 30k now.


lol
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Your *what* is itchy?
dangit. that'll break my share streak.. it's over 30k now.
member
Activity: 95
Merit: 10
I believe you do need to stop and start for the flags to take effect
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Also, reading this last page...been mucking about with my -w setting for my MIS HD6770....tried a whole range of em...64, 128, 192, 256, 320, 384, etc all the way up to 2048....no noticeable jump or crash in hashrate.......do i need to stop my miner, change it, then restart to see any difference?


I'm not totally sure if you have to stop and restart the miner after making a change, but I normally do as a rule of thumb.   After I change anything on my miner I'll hit stop, then immediately hit start, then save (of course provided you like the settings).
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