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full member
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As I said before, way too early to know whether this is a scam or not....

J

p.s. people may have their own agendas though in trashing others.....
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
unbelievable, more trolls trying to take your money
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
They have 19 days to meet their self imposed deadline. I won't call them on anything else until that deadline has passed. I wish they hadn't gone the pre-order route, but they did. Only by a few weeks, though, rather than some pie-in-the-sky date that they pulled out of their ass like several other manufacturers/vendors have done.

The A1's are out there, both Swiss and chinese knockoffs. They work. Let's see what these guys do with 'em.

19 days, plus they are allowed to be 10 days late, so 29 days before you can request a refund, plus then refunds can take another 21 days, as per their TOS.

Noted. I'm JAFO here, but I expect to see some movement by the actual deadline, not the "weasel clause". Else they're just another company I'll not do business with. I have never been burnt by a pre order, cuz I won't do 'em. Start in hand, you got my serious attention.
hero member
Activity: 616
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I got Satoshi's avatar!
From the beginning it is suspicious for bitcoinultra. They push a product into market when it is still in development stage. Before announcing the product, they should at least have a small  batch of rigs tested fully at least one week. development/lab <--> test in real situation <--> product in the market. Too much uncertainty from lab directly to product. Let's pray this will not turn out as another scam.
I agree, at first this was a 'no pre-order' sale, but now they have taken orders without any proof of hardware and they have not even assembled the PCB's yet (by their own admission)... how is that not a pre-order then?
newbie
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still no news/updates/photos??
lol, who did order?? Grin
fell your pain bros.

for new comers, here is the ONLY asic manufacturer that actually delivers within 3 working days after payment: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/
although those products dont actually ROI now.

pro tip: just buy bitcoin (at least until new products from known manufacturers later on this year)


edit: im waiting for ASICMINER new chips to be spread all over the place Smiley

That's a bit disingenuous, don't you think? Bitmain usually ships in that timeframe as well. They don't guarantee it, but they pride themselves on doing it.

I'm curious about the ASICMINER chips myself. And gen 2 Bitfury. And the rumoured Gen 2 Bitmain chips.. Wouldn't be surprised if Gridseed has a rabbit or two left in their hat either.

didnt mean to sound disingenuous  Undecided
just wanted to warn people about ordering asics from out of the blur companies that show up as easily as they disappear.
True that bitmain also is quite a safe investment but they chips are on decline now as new gen chips are about to pop up.

I expect AM to take the lead this year and leave bitmain quite far away as they skipped gen2 (which could be close to what bitmain offers now). Once they'll relase it, bitmain will have go through another designing and development cycle to keep up with AM and Bitfury.

Bit OTT for this thread maybe, but BM have already hinted their respin (BF2 equiv) is in production and their nextgen (28nm) is in development.

But back on topic, hurry up bitcoinultra, you have a committed client base ready to spend coin with you once you can prove with some simple valid updates that you have something to sell.

Lets go!

From the beginning it is suspicious for bitcoinultra. They push a product into market when it is still in development stage. Before announcing the product, they should at least have a small  batch of rigs tested fully at least one week. development/lab <--> test in real situation <--> product in the market. Too much uncertainty from lab directly to product. Let's pray this will not turn out as another scam.
legendary
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i think is scam finally Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1221
still no news/updates/photos??
lol, who did order?? Grin
fell your pain bros.

for new comers, here is the ONLY asic manufacturer that actually delivers within 3 working days after payment: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/
although those products dont actually ROI now.

pro tip: just buy bitcoin (at least until new products from known manufacturers later on this year)


edit: im waiting for ASICMINER new chips to be spread all over the place Smiley

That's a bit disingenuous, don't you think? Bitmain usually ships in that timeframe as well. They don't guarantee it, but they pride themselves on doing it.

I'm curious about the ASICMINER chips myself. And gen 2 Bitfury. And the rumoured Gen 2 Bitmain chips.. Wouldn't be surprised if Gridseed has a rabbit or two left in their hat either.

didnt mean to sound disingenuous  Undecided
just wanted to warn people about ordering asics from out of the blur companies that show up as easily as they disappear.
True that bitmain also is quite a safe investment but they chips are on decline now as new gen chips are about to pop up.

I expect AM to take the lead this year and leave bitmain quite far away as they skipped gen2 (which could be close to what bitmain offers now). Once they'll relase it, bitmain will have go through another designing and development cycle to keep up with AM and Bitfury.

Bit OTT for this thread maybe, but BM have already hinted their respin (BF2 equiv) is in production and their nextgen (28nm) is in development.

But back on topic, hurry up bitcoinultra, you have a committed client base ready to spend coin with you once you can prove with some simple valid updates that you have something to sell.

Lets go!
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1002
still no news/updates/photos??
lol, who did order?? Grin
fell your pain bros.

for new comers, here is the ONLY asic manufacturer that actually delivers within 3 working days after payment: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/
although those products dont actually ROI now.

pro tip: just buy bitcoin (at least until new products from known manufacturers later on this year)


edit: im waiting for ASICMINER new chips to be spread all over the place Smiley

That's a bit disingenuous, don't you think? Bitmain usually ships in that timeframe as well. They don't guarantee it, but they pride themselves on doing it.

I'm curious about the ASICMINER chips myself. And gen 2 Bitfury. And the rumoured Gen 2 Bitmain chips.. Wouldn't be surprised if Gridseed has a rabbit or two left in their hat either.

didnt mean to sound disingenuous  Undecided
just wanted to warn people about ordering asics from out of the blur companies that show up as easily as they disappear.
True that bitmain also is quite a safe investment but they chips are on decline now as new gen chips are about to pop up.

I expect AM to take the lead this year and leave bitmain quite far away as they skipped gen2 (which could be close to what bitmain offers now). Once they'll relase it, bitmain will have go through another designing and development cycle to keep up with AM and Bitfury.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1221
They have 19 days to meet their self imposed deadline. I won't call them on anything else until that deadline has passed. I wish they hadn't gone the pre-order route, but they did. Only by a few weeks, though, rather than some pie-in-the-sky date that they pulled out of their ass like several other manufacturers/vendors have done.

The A1's are out there, both Swiss and chinese knockoffs. They work. Let's see what these guys do with 'em.

19 days, plus they are allowed to be 10 days late, so 29 days before you can request a refund, plus then refunds can take another 21 days, as per their TOS.
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 783
better everyday ♥
I did a little calculation and based upon current difficultly (big caveat!) the Ant's ROI in around 63 (included PSU and import duty into UK) days and the 750GH/s in around 61 days. Obviously having 1 box rather than 4 makes life a lot simpler.

Did you set the calculator for mid-April at a minimum?  Because according to BitcoinUltra's post they just finally finished testing and manufacturing PCB's.  Seems like something that should've been done awhile ago.  They haven't even showed any pictures of chips or a test rig mining at a pool yet!   Tongue
Again, playing devil's advocate here. Not having shown it and not having done it are different. They couldn't have finalized their board design much before this, since the A1 chips haven't been out that long. They said they had sent them to production, and had all the necessary components.

Yeah, they probably should shoot the bins of components and post up the image just to stop trolling and slow speculation, but I wouldn't want to be bothered either. They have 19 days to meet their self imposed deadline. I won't call them on anything else until that deadline has passed. I wish they hadn't gone the pre-order route, but they did. Only by a few weeks, though, rather than some pie-in-the-sky date that they pulled out of their ass like several other manufacturers/vendors have done.

The A1's are out there, both Swiss and chinese knockoffs. They work. Let's see what these guys do with 'em.

I see your point Biomech, just curious why they even bothered posting this a few days ago:


Crazy day as you can all imagine, here are some pictures of the Enigma 1 case, I will take some pictures of our boards and manufacturing when I get on site




legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
I did a little calculation and based upon current difficultly (big caveat!) the Ant's ROI in around 63 (included PSU and import duty into UK) days and the 750GH/s in around 61 days. Obviously having 1 box rather than 4 makes life a lot simpler.

Did you set the calculator for mid-April at a minimum?  Because according to BitcoinUltra's post they just finally finished testing and manufacturing PCB's.  Seems like something that should've been done awhile ago.  They haven't even showed any pictures of chips or a test rig mining at a pool yet!   Tongue
Again, playing devil's advocate here. Not having shown it and not having done it are different. They couldn't have finalized their board design much before this, since the A1 chips haven't been out that long. They said they had sent them to production, and had all the necessary components.

Yeah, they probably should shoot the bins of components and post up the image just to stop trolling and slow speculation, but I wouldn't want to be bothered either. They have 19 days to meet their self imposed deadline. I won't call them on anything else until that deadline has passed. I wish they hadn't gone the pre-order route, but they did. Only by a few weeks, though, rather than some pie-in-the-sky date that they pulled out of their ass like several other manufacturers/vendors have done.

The A1's are out there, both Swiss and chinese knockoffs. They work. Let's see what these guys do with 'em.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
still no news/updates/photos??
lol, who did order?? Grin
fell your pain bros.

for new comers, here is the ONLY asic manufacturer that actually delivers within 3 working days after payment: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/
although those products dont actually ROI now.

pro tip: just buy bitcoin (at least until new products from known manufacturers later on this year)


edit: im waiting for ASICMINER new chips to be spread all over the place Smiley

That's a bit disingenuous, don't you think? Bitmain usually ships in that timeframe as well. They don't guarantee it, but they pride themselves on doing it.

I'm curious about the ASICMINER chips myself. And gen 2 Bitfury. And the rumoured Gen 2 Bitmain chips.. Wouldn't be surprised if Gridseed has a rabbit or two left in their hat either.
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 783
better everyday ♥
I did a little calculation and based upon current difficultly (big caveat!) the Ant's ROI in around 63 (included PSU and import duty into UK) days and the 750GH/s in around 61 days. Obviously having 1 box rather than 4 makes life a lot simpler.

Did you set the calculator for mid-April at a minimum?  Because according to BitcoinUltra's post they just finally finished testing and manufacturing PCB's.  Seems like something that should've been done awhile ago.  They haven't even showed any pictures of chips or a test rig mining at a pool yet!   Tongue
member
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I did a little calculation and based upon current difficultly (big caveat!) the Ant's ROI in around 63 (included PSU and import duty into UK) days and the 750GH/s in around 61 days. Obviously having 1 box rather than 4 makes life a lot simpler.
legendary
Activity: 3234
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The maths just doesn't add up, the ROI on this unit is just not worth it.

Why not just buy 5 ANT Miners?

5 x 180GH/s = 900GH/s  - That's without over clocking.

That will set you back just under 5BTC (They are 0.99BTC each including shipping)  or at current exchange rates on coindesk $3155 or £1900.

Plus PSUs, plus VAT at the border, and the usual exorbitant "handling fees" for the privilege of charging you that VAT.

VAT alone is another 20%, PSUs for 5 miners, depends how much quality you want but I'd expect anything from £100 to £300 to power 5 ants.

Erm, not advocating one system over another, but to clarify, bitcoinultra prices are ex VAT, and don't come with PSU's either.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1002
still no news/updates/photos??
lol, who did order?? Grin
fell your pain bros.

for new comers, here is the ONLY asic manufacturer that actually delivers within 3 working days after payment: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/
although those products dont actually ROI now.

pro tip: just buy bitcoin (at least until new products from known manufacturers later on this year)


edit: im waiting for ASICMINER new chips to be spread all over the place Smiley
full member
Activity: 182
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The maths just doesn't add up, the ROI on this unit is just not worth it.

Why not just buy 5 ANT Miners?

5 x 180GH/s = 900GH/s  - That's without over clocking.

That will set you back just under 5BTC (They are 0.99BTC each including shipping)  or at current exchange rates on coindesk $3155 or £1900.

Plus PSUs, plus VAT at the border, and the usual exorbitant "handling fees" for the privilege of charging you that VAT.

VAT alone is another 20%, PSUs for 5 miners, depends how much quality you want but I'd expect anything from £100 to £300 to power 5 ants.

You forget the most important part: S1's are available RIGHT NOW. Even with the extra costs, it's still way more interesting just due the fact that you can start mining 3-4 days after ordering.
IF 5 S1's end up more expensive than this, you will still make it up big time because you can already start mining.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
The maths just doesn't add up, the ROI on this unit is just not worth it.

Why not just buy 5 ANT Miners?

5 x 180GH/s = 900GH/s  - That's without over clocking.

That will set you back just under 5BTC (They are 0.99BTC each including shipping)  or at current exchange rates on coindesk $3155 or £1900.

Plus PSUs, plus VAT at the border, and the usual exorbitant "handling fees" for the privilege of charging you that VAT.

VAT alone is another 20%, PSUs for 5 miners, depends how much quality you want but I'd expect anything from £100 to £300 to power 5 ants.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 263
Hi,

Ive been following this for a while now with the intent to buy once we have firm evidence.

I'd just like to ask why a UK company with a UK manufactured product would send their only working model to Europe for, I assume testing.

From this thread i have seen you could have a very good UK based customer base and ample UK based testers for you to conduct this here.

I cant understand why you would not want to document (photo) the manufacture process/working model when the majority of your customers have requested this evidence. Would also have been prudent to photo your hardware before sending it to Europe to call off the Loins so to speak.

Hope this works out for you but unfortunatly i'm still sceptical.

Rgds

Ratters
newbie
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Morning to everyone.

Firstly thank you to everybody in the community, we have been inundated with emails and phone calls regarding our mining hardware.

I would like to clarify and clear up a few points. We are currently waiting for our enigma 1 sample box to be returned from a customer in Europe which should be this week so we can show videos/photo's etc..

As already mentioned, we will also be posting some photo's from our local electronics manufacturer who are assembling our PCB's. Before we accepted a single order we purchased all the required components for manufacturing and our PCB's are currently being printed. Once the printing is complete the board assembly will start which means we will have something to take a picture of.

We also understand that the Bitcoin miner market has been open to a lot of scams and failed promises, I would like to reassure everybody that we are a genuine business here for the long term.

If you are unsure or weary, about placing an order with us for our first batch of Enigma 1 miners, then please feel free to wait for forum members to confirm that they have received their order first.

In the mean time if you have ANY questions, please email us at [email protected], alternatively you can call us on (+44) 01709242224 and one of our team will be happy to help.
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