A German comedian could be sent to jail for insulting the Turkish president - page 4.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 01, 2016, 11:04:27 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 01, 2016, 08:51:35 AM

Erdogan receives funds from the GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait (a reward for his Islamization policies in Turkey). He also receives weapons from Israel and the United States. There is no real opposition in Turkey, as most of the rival leaders are behind bars. I don't think what happened to Saddam and Gaddhafi will happen to Erdogan.

Saudi Arabia and Israel supporting the same leader? Something wrong here? Saudi Arabia does not even recognize Israel. Grin

I guess you didn't understand him quite well. If you think that they're supporting Erdogan due to some sort Israeli-Saudi partnership, then there is a mistake. It's Erdogan who have made few careful deals with Israeli and Saudi leaders, avoiding direct interaction between these two factions.

P.S. When it comes to business, saudis are no worse than israelis. If it's profitable in the short-term, then they're ready to forget about their agenda and make another contradictory alliance. In fact, there is nothing wrong with that.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 01, 2016, 11:04:27 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 01, 2016, 08:51:35 AM

Erdogan receives funds from the GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait (a reward for his Islamization policies in Turkey). He also receives weapons from Israel and the United States. There is no real opposition in Turkey, as most of the rival leaders are behind bars. I don't think what happened to Saddam and Gaddhafi will happen to Erdogan.

Saudi Arabia and Israel supporting the same leader? Something wrong here? Saudi Arabia does not even recognize Israel. Grin

How come not recognizing Israel would prevent Saudi's supporting Turkey if they both got benefits from Turkey? They are unrelated

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 01, 2016, 08:51:35 AM

Erdogan receives funds from the GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait (a reward for his Islamization policies in Turkey). He also receives weapons from Israel and the United States. There is no real opposition in Turkey, as most of the rival leaders are behind bars. I don't think what happened to Saddam and Gaddhafi will happen to Erdogan.

Saudi Arabia and Israel supporting the same leader? Something wrong here? Saudi Arabia does not even recognize Israel. Grin

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Quote from: criptix on April 30, 2016, 01:02:38 PM

Someone quote me for that idiot to read.

So polite, you must be one of these new-breed europeans, truly civilized ones.

I learn fast from my russian comrades Wink

My honorable little brother, you've touched my heart with your eloquent speech. Yeah, you're ready to become a member of civilized society.

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Quote from: Balthazar on May 01, 2016, 10:53:19 AM

Quote from: criptix on April 30, 2016, 01:02:38 PM

Someone quote me for that idiot to read.

So polite, you must be one of these new-breed europeans, truly civilized ones.

I learn fast from my russian comrades Wink

Btw. Saying that he is an idiot is a fact it is not even an insult lol

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Quote from: criptix on April 30, 2016, 01:02:38 PM

Someone quote me for that idiot to read.

So polite, you must be one of these new-breed europeans, truly civilized ones.

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Quote from: designerusa on May 01, 2016, 06:03:34 AM

you are right. recep tayyip erdogan are still supported by many countiries.. but a few years later, he will fall from grace as a result, he will be slayed by his own supporters like saddam husein and gaddafi ..

Erdogan receives funds from the GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait (a reward for his Islamization policies in Turkey). He also receives weapons from Israel and the United States. There is no real opposition in Turkey, as most of the rival leaders are behind bars. I don't think what happened to Saddam and Gaddhafi will happen to Erdogan.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 08, 2016, 08:11:30 AM

Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 08, 2016, 06:29:18 AM

Turkish president? lol He is not a president. He is a dictator. But dont worry, i think KGB will take care of him very soon.

He will be around for a while. He is in good terms with the NATO heads of state (especially with Merkel and Obama), and he is also supported by the Israelis and the Saudis. And despite butchering thousands of Kurds recently, the mainstream media has refused to condemn him. The opposition is disunited and fragmented.

you are right. recep tayyip erdogan are still supported by many countiries.. but a few years later, he will fall from grace as a result, he will be slayed by his own supporters like saddam husein and gaddafi ..

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 30, 2016, 12:58:20 PM

Quote from: _Victory_ on April 30, 2016, 08:54:22 AM

That comedian is not going to jail . I would bet on it.

I am not that sure, given the new precedent of Erdogan and his bunch of thugs are dictating how the European Union should be run. Recently the Turkish authorities urged their citizens residing in the Netherlands to report anyone who insults their head of the state. What happened to Jan Böhmermann is not going to be an isolated incident. It is just the tip of the iceberg.

How much do you want to bet?
I will accept and look for a escrow here.

Someone quote me for that idiot to read.

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Quote from: _Victory_ on April 30, 2016, 08:54:22 AM

That comedian is not going to jail . I would bet on it.

I am not that sure, given the new precedent of Erdogan and his bunch of thugs are dictating how the European Union should be run. Recently the Turkish authorities urged their citizens residing in the Netherlands to report anyone who insults their head of the state. What happened to Jan Böhmermann is not going to be an isolated incident. It is just the tip of the iceberg.

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That comedian is not going to jail . I would bet on it.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 30, 2016, 08:25:26 AM

Quote from: garmerys on April 30, 2016, 07:06:58 AM

Freedom of speech should have a limit, people use it and cross the limits

What an idiot. "Freedom of speech" with a limit is not actually "Freedom of speech". Obviously, I wouldn't condone anyone if he is supporting pedophilia or genocide. But mocking a head of state is definitely not crossing the freedom of speech. If you can't come in to terms with it, then hide in a cave and don't interact with the public.

To tell people who do not believe in the right of a comedian mocking a head of state "to go hide in a cave" is not an insult to them, but an upgrade, a step up to their everyday living condition. The sewer can be very humid sometime...

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Quote from: garmerys on April 30, 2016, 07:06:58 AM

Freedom of speech should have a limit, people use it and cross the limits

What an idiot. "Freedom of speech" with a limit is not actually "Freedom of speech". Obviously, I wouldn't condone anyone if he is supporting pedophilia or genocide. But mocking a head of state is definitely not crossing the freedom of speech. If you can't come in to terms with it, then hide in a cave and don't interact with the public.

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Freedom of speech should have a limit, people use it and cross the limits

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Comedian make jocks for everyone. If he want he can make jocks of Barak Obama. Nothing about it. But Turkish president is a fool. Tongue

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 22, 2016, 08:17:25 AM

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 19, 2016, 08:17:39 PM

Quote from: n691309 on April 19, 2016, 01:52:33 PM

Freedom of speech should have a limit, people mix these things when hit the limit and most of the people in this case would do like erdogan. I know people make jokes and humor but not to exaggerate it.

Where will you put the limit at? Making fun of a president is definitely not crossing the limits. I have seen hundreds of Western comedians making fun of non-European heads of state, such as Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Hassan Rouhani, and Evo Morales. None of them have been prosecuted. So my question is, what makes Recep Tayyip Erdoğan any different from them?

Answer is very simple, they're not Erdoğan.

Europe should cut ties with that country instead of bowing for every demand they make.

That's impossible because Erdoğan blackmails them. He has a quite useful blackmailing tool, few millions of domesticated migrants, who are ready to be injected into the EU.

That can easily be changed by deporting all Turkish nationals with a criminal record from Europe. They are Turkish citizens, deporting them will be easy.
Europe does not dare to do this of course.

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 26, 2016, 12:58:43 PM

P.S. By the way, what about other lines?

Don't seem to rhyme too well, but then again, I'm not into poetry anyway Wink

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Quote from: qwk on April 26, 2016, 12:52:50 PM

Quote from: Balthazar on April 26, 2016, 12:50:04 PM

Germans sold, Nazism back.

While we're discussing laws, nice example of Godwin's in action Wink

Ehehe, do you really think that Godwin's law reference was hard to foresee? Cheesy

P.S. By the way, what about other lines?

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 26, 2016, 12:50:04 PM

Germans sold, Nazism back.

While we're discussing laws, nice example of Godwin's in action Wink

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Trained by Stasi: how to stay,
later trained by CIA
playing role of Germans Leader
She performed as money Feeder.

Erdogan received the cash
For creating boarders mess
Terrorist now have the voice
in EC, it's Merkel choice

No freedom to artists
Opposition, activists
Erdogan pays her kick-back
Germans sold, Nazism is back.

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