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legendary
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That's clear that now Germany is the new puppet of Turkey. What else to except from a leftist woman after all ? Putin, we need you ! Come on and destroy this fucking Turkey !

She has been nominated for the 2016 Nobel peace prize, and indications are that she might win it. Remember Obama's win in 2009? I probably would not have cared if she was destroying only Germany. But her real aim is the complete destruction of the European civilization. I just hope that this evil woman will be prosecuted without much delay.

She's not evil. She isn't Jewish and she don't seems to be ideologically manipulated. She's just stupid or manipulated by someone, and thus, there's maybe a bigger power on her.
She's too smart to be manipulated, I've read many articles about her past and I'd say there is enough evidence for this point of view. In fact, she's a wicked manipulative bitch who've got her place as a reward for betrayal. She betrayed everyone who was stupid enough to trust her, including two of her own former bosses.
legendary
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Get your game girl
I have seen this in local news and the comedian deserve it, a joke has a limit and comedians should not make jokes about presidents like this comedian did, Erdogan does not tolerate even in his country so lets see what will happen with this comedian in germany.

There is something called as humor.Take it as a joke.The amount of jokes American president has to take and matter of fact he can't do anything about it shows what actual Democracy is.Freedom of SPEECH!
legendary
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I have seen this in local news and the comedian deserve it, a joke has a limit and comedians should not make jokes about presidents like this comedian did, Erdogan does not tolerate even in his country so lets see what will happen with this comedian in germany.
newbie
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why he was sent to the jail.
he is just a comedian and doing his job to spread smile on the face of people by doing mimicry.
and i think he should not be sent to jail for this action.
just warm then  not to do it again.
legendary
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That's clear that now Germany is the new puppet of Turkey. What else to except from a leftist woman after all ? Putin, we need you ! Come on and destroy this fucking Turkey !

She has been nominated for the 2016 Nobel peace prize, and indications are that she might win it. Remember Obama's win in 2009? I probably would not have cared if she was destroying only Germany. But her real aim is the complete destruction of the European civilization. I just hope that this evil woman will be prosecuted without much delay.

She's not evil. She isn't Jewish and she don't seems to be ideologically manipulated. She's just stupid or manipulated by someone, and thus, there's maybe a bigger power on her.

She is too much experienced to be manipulated. She knew about the consequences of her actions, and still went with it for short term gains (electoral dividends, Nobel prize.etc). However, it is possible that she might have under-estimated the reaction from her own citizens, against the mass influx of third world immigrants from the Middle East.
hero member
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Gloire à la Victoire !
That's clear that now Germany is the new puppet of Turkey. What else to except from a leftist woman after all ? Putin, we need you ! Come on and destroy this fucking Turkey !

She has been nominated for the 2016 Nobel peace prize, and indications are that she might win it. Remember Obama's win in 2009? I probably would not have cared if she was destroying only Germany. But her real aim is the complete destruction of the European civilization. I just hope that this evil woman will be prosecuted without much delay.

She's not evil. She isn't Jewish and she don't seems to be ideologically manipulated. She's just stupid or manipulated by someone, and thus, there's maybe a bigger power on her.
RJX
legendary
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That's clear that now Germany is the new puppet of Turkey. What else to except from a leftist woman after all ? Putin, we need you ! Come on and destroy this fucking Turkey !

She has been nominated for the 2016 Nobel peace prize, and indications are that she might win it. Remember Obama's win in 2009? I probably would not have cared if she was destroying only Germany. But her real aim is the complete destruction of the European civilization. I just hope that this evil woman will be prosecuted without much delay.

All friends and incrowds washing eachothers hands. The native European people don't care for it and in due time they will rise up against the colonists and everyone who supports them because they're fed up with the treachery. Our parents and grandparents fought and died for our freedom and we will do the same for our children and grandchildren if need be.


legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1217
That's clear that now Germany is the new puppet of Turkey. What else to except from a leftist woman after all ? Putin, we need you ! Come on and destroy this fucking Turkey !

She has been nominated for the 2016 Nobel peace prize, and indications are that she might win it. Remember Obama's win in 2009? I probably would not have cared if she was destroying only Germany. But her real aim is the complete destruction of the European civilization. I just hope that this evil woman will be prosecuted without much delay.
hero member
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Gloire à la Victoire !
That's clear that now Germany is the new puppet of Turkey. What else to except from a leftist woman after all ? Putin, we need you ! Come on and destroy this fucking Turkey !
legendary
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Merit: 1113
legendary
Activity: 3766
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What happened to Germany's democracy and freedom of speech?
A foreign dictator is using the German legal system to silence critics? Is Germany serious?
Wonder who's in charge of Germany?

The answer is very simple. Germany has become the vassal state of Turkey (previously, it was the American vassal state, but then Obama was so incompetent that he lost Germany to Turkey). Goat-fucker Erdoğan has become too powerful. Within a few months time, he will dictate the rules and policies of the European Union.
sr. member
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legendary
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legendary
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Böhmermann works for the zdf ( lying .gov press) so this might just be some type of conspiracy or hoax!

On a serious node qwk explained it already that the comedian knew the consequences of his poem ( they explained it beforehand) and in the worst case it will end in a fine.

There are laws for insulting/defamation/libel and additional laws for special cases of the same against presidents of other nations.

Everything what is happening right now is exactly the way it should happen in a state under the rule of law.
You feel insulted you take the person to court and the courts decide.

Btw. Germany will remove the special laws regarding "Beleidigung von Staatsoberhäuptern" because it is just a relict of past times ( deutsches Kaiserreich or weimarer republik?) and not needed anymore.



OK. This is normal in Germany to be fired for your job because you are a comedian. Good to know.




Nobody is fired. He is making a vacation and still works for the zdf.
The zdf also announced it is supporting him with all means nessecary.

It is quite funny if there was no special law for libel against a head of state erdogan would have just used a normal court process which would have went straight to court - 100%.

Because of the special law the german gov has to approve it which is the correct decision.



Do you know if that same law targeting the German comedian was already in place when Bokassa or Pinochet was in power?

 Grin (German humor)




If i remeber correctly it was created in the 19th century at the time of "das deutsche Kaiserreich".
The böhmermann case iniated the removing of that law, which will happen until 2018.
legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
Böhmermann works for the zdf ( lying .gov press) so this might just be some type of conspiracy or hoax!

On a serious node qwk explained it already that the comedian knew the consequences of his poem ( they explained it beforehand) and in the worst case it will end in a fine.

There are laws for insulting/defamation/libel and additional laws for special cases of the same against presidents of other nations.

Everything what is happening right now is exactly the way it should happen in a state under the rule of law.
You feel insulted you take the person to court and the courts decide.

Btw. Germany will remove the special laws regarding "Beleidigung von Staatsoberhäuptern" because it is just a relict of past times ( deutsches Kaiserreich or weimarer republik?) and not needed anymore.



OK. This is normal in Germany to be fired for your job because you are a comedian. Good to know.




Nobody is fired. He is making a vacation and still works for the zdf.
The zdf also announced it is supporting him with all means nessecary.

It is quite funny if there was no special law for libel against a head of state erdogan would have just used a normal court process which would have went straight to court - 100%.

Because of the special law the german gov has to approve it which is the correct decision.



Do you know if that same law targeting the German comedian was already in place when Bokassa or Pinochet was in power?

 Grin (German humor)


legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
Böhmermann works for the zdf ( lying .gov press) so this might just be some type of conspiracy or hoax!

On a serious node qwk explained it already that the comedian knew the consequences of his poem ( they explained it beforehand) and in the worst case it will end in a fine.

There are laws for insulting/defamation/libel and additional laws for special cases of the same against presidents of other nations.

Everything what is happening right now is exactly the way it should happen in a state under the rule of law.
You feel insulted you take the person to court and the courts decide.

Btw. Germany will remove the special laws regarding "Beleidigung von Staatsoberhäuptern" because it is just a relict of past times ( deutsches Kaiserreich or weimarer republik?) and not needed anymore.



OK. This is normal in Germany to be fired for your job because you are a comedian. Good to know.




Nobody is fired. He is making a vacation and still works for the zdf.
The zdf also announced it is supporting him with all means nessecary.

It is quite funny if there was no special law for libel against a head of state erdogan would have just used a normal court process which would have went straight to court - 100%.

Because of the special law the german gov has to approve it which is the correct decision.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Why doesn't Merkel just get it over with and suck Erdogan's dick on national television already.
hero member
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What happened to Germany's democracy and freedom of speech?
A foreign dictator is using the German legal system to silence critics? Is Germany serious?
Wonder who's in charge of Germany?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon



Merkel criticized, lauded for allowing comic's prosecution



 BERLIN (AP) -- Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision to allow the possible prosecution of a TV comic for writing an intentionally offensive poem about Turkey's president prompted mixed reactions in Germany on Saturday.

Some commentators praised the move as a vote of confidence in the country's justice system while others accused Merkel of kowtowing to Turkey, whose president had filed a legal complaint against the comic.

In the unusual move, Merkel called a short-notice news conference Friday to personally announce that her government had granted Turkey's request to let prosecutors examine a criminal complaint against the comic for writing an intentionally offensive poem about Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Under German law, the government has to grant permission before prosecutors can consider whether to press charges against someone for the crime of insulting a foreign head of state.

"It's not clear what reasons weighed so heavily that she had to take this legally, politically and morally unnecessary as well as disastrous step," wrote Torsten Krauel, chief opinion writer of the center-right German daily Die Welt.

Krauel described Merkel's decision as bow to Erdogan, whose help the chancellor depends on for her plan to reduce the influx of migrants to Europe. Any conviction of comedian Jan Boehmermann would now "carry her political signature," he said, noting that previously Merkel had been known as a strong defender of free speech and for shrugging off public attacks against her in foreign media.

Others praised Merkel's move, arguing that it would highlight the independence of Germany's judicial system.

"Unlike in Russia or Turkey, innocent people don't have to fear the rule of law in this country," wrote Berthold Kohler, a publisher of the conservative daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. "The Boehmermann case is therefore better left in the hands of independent judges."

The comic himself indicated that he planned to take a break from television for a while.

In a Facebook posting Saturday, Boehmermann said he had received support from "the overwhelming majority of those who aren't President Erdogan."



http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GERMANY_TURKEY_ERDOGAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-04-16-09-24-15


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legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
Böhmermann works for the zdf ( lying .gov press) so this might just be some type of conspiracy or hoax!

On a serious node qwk explained it already that the comedian knew the consequences of his poem ( they explained it beforehand) and in the worst case it will end in a fine.

There are laws for insulting/defamation/libel and additional laws for special cases of the same against presidents of other nations.

Everything what is happening right now is exactly the way it should happen in a state under the rule of law.
You feel insulted you take the person to court and the courts decide.

Btw. Germany will remove the special laws regarding "Beleidigung von Staatsoberhäuptern" because it is just a relict of past times ( deutsches Kaiserreich or weimarer republik?) and not needed anymore.



OK. This is normal in Germany to be fired for your job because you are a comedian. Good to know.


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