A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win - page 3.

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Quote from: o48o on June 23, 2023, 11:56:37 AM

I don't even know what the weirdest part of this is.

The strange part is that a father refuses his child's gambling winning money when they actually also need the money but there is no clear certainty why a father refuses money that they can use for survival and change their economy.

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If the son wouldn't be in control of the money he won how was he able to gamble it in a first place?

Clear the boy not control the winning money if his father refuses the money.
I'm sure the child made the bet because he wanted big things in his life to be able to help and change his family's economy by risking some money with the aim of getting a big win, but after this was actually achieved, his own father refused and did not want to accept the money from gambling a penny.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 11:58:06 AM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.
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How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

I don't even know what the weirdest part of this is. If the son wouldn't be in control of the money he won how was he able to gamble it in a first place?

Something on this doesn't add up or those Nigerian laws are just plain weird on monetary and gambling and parental rights. I mean why would the father was in control of his winnings if he wasn't in control of his gambling?

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Besides, these articles sometimes to have the full story, maybe the man is a religious man and gambling is something that might be frowned upon and was trying to stick to his principles....whatever it is, give it time, the son will explain himself and they will find a way to agree on how to receive the monetary gift.

In this case, reading the whole story, one thing is clearly understood, except for the father, the other members of the boy's family are interested in keeping the money won by the bet. But the boy's father is not agreeing to spend his gambling money for the benefit of the family for some religious reasons. If you look at the boy's older brother's post, they only told the netizens that the gambling money is with his family should be spent. Moreover, the boy's mother is willing to spend the gambling money with the family because the boy's family still owes two months of house rent. If the boy spends the gambling money for family purposes, then his family will have a great life in the future.

the man is actually teaching his son that the winnings from gambling are money that cannot be used for food because according to religion that must be done while the child does not understand the intentions and goals of their father, however I respect his father because that is his principles as a man and a responsible father

Even if the man is a religious person, why didn't he train his child to also be a religious son so that the son will not waste his money to gamble. Does he as a father understand that his son has been spending in gambling for years, how come he wants to stop the reward of his son.
The holy scriptures also permits anyone that sows to be able to reap. He being a religious man should not stop his son from reaping what ever he has invested his time and money into.

Well each dogma or religion is highly respected and everyone has their beliefs, their religion and everything related to it, as far as I'm concerned I think something that is quite free, our children will always be our children, but they can never be equal to we, they are other people who make their decisions, and for my part I will always be proud of my children, of course under my authority they should always do what I teach them, I tell them to train them very well , so that in the Future they will be men and women who Contribute to the world and who are important, who help others and above all can be good people , the rest is up to them, that is why a father cannot be so Radical.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 19, 2023, 02:37:58 PM

Quote from: flipme on June 16, 2023, 01:48:15 PM

I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

you touched on a good point, the son is already of legal age, the moment the son starts playing games of chance, then it is because he is over 18 years old and that means he is already an adult capable of taking decisions on their own, the father does not have the right to force the son to return money that the son won, I do not know how this story ended, but in legal terms the father cannot force the son to return the money he won in the game bad luck, the son can use that money to buy a house and do some business, because the son is already an adult

the son being an adult person should already think about being at his house and not being at the father's house, here in Africa the children, even though they are adults, stay at their parents' house and the parents continue to treat the adult children as if they were children and that happens it becomes very dangerous when we have cases like the one OP mentioned or when the son presents a wife and the father does not like the son's wife and forces his son to abandon this woman, these are very common problems that have happened here in Africa unfortunately

Here we observe a timeless inter-generational confilct. The father, a bastion of conservatism, struggles with his son's decisions. The son, emblematic of liberal ideals, wishes to assert personal freedom. The conflict pivots on the father's denial of his son's winnings. While the son, being an adult, has this right, we cannot overlook the father's ethical stance. The son's potential investment in Bitcoin, or other digital assets, underscores the importance of financial independence. This route could bolster his fiscal autonomy, but must not lead to familial deception, threatening their relationship.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 16, 2023, 03:40:38 PM

Quote from: flipme on June 16, 2023, 01:48:15 PM

I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

that son must have loved his father so much that he told his father about his big gambling win, but he did not understand more deeply about the character of his parents. conservative parents have a high degree of aversion to gambling (especially those who are truly religious) and it is difficult to change the perspective of parents with that type because for them money is not the most important thing but staying away from sin is the most important (I also have parents with this type of hardness and it's hard to change their way of thinking).

I thought the sons know their fathers better than any one else? He should have known that his father will reject this because they lived together for years, there must have been something like this happening in the family before, when someone is religiously committed they tend to see wrongs in most things that people are doing in the world today to make a living, I will like to ask this son face to face if he knew not that his father will act in this such manner because he should have saw it coming.

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Quote from: elevates on June 19, 2023, 06:50:06 PM

Yes, that can be a possibility, the father's main concern would have been his son getting back again into gambling with the same money that he had won. His refusal in not with the money but how his son got the money. He is now certain that after this win his son might get more deep with this habit. We all know it is a hard habit to stop. After this big win the boy will again try his luck. In most cases they end up with nothing they won.

Well... in that case, it is not a valid argument. The father can take 90% of the money and keep it in a 10-year fixed deposit in any of the local banks. He can give the remaining 10% to his son, to do whatever he likes. But the concern is not without a reason. I personally know a few people who went bankrupt in a few months after winning the lottery jackpots. And then we have the example of Jack Whittaker, the American lottery winner who ended up with his family broken and living in penury a few years after winning the Powerball jackpot of $314.9 million.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 19, 2023, 06:23:08 PM

Yes the father had to respect the steps taken by his son, but maybe the refusal was not just because of differences in perspective but the father's way of saving his son from getting involved deeper in gambling, so refusing the money was like wanting to convey that it was not the right way to get money income or a way to solve the economic problems that the family is facing, because what the boy gets is just luck if the result is the other way around and the boy continues to gamble then the situation will only make it more difficult for their economy, and we also have to understand that gambling is not a way to solve economic difficulties because when you can get the jackpot it's just luck and it's impossible to always experience it.

Yes, that can be a possibility, the father's main concern would have been his son getting back again into gambling with the same money that he had won. His refusal in not with the money but how his son got the money. He is now certain that after this win his son might get more deep with this habit. We all know it is a hard habit to stop. After this big win the boy will again try his luck. In most cases they end up with nothing they won.

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Quote from: flipme on June 16, 2023, 01:48:15 PM

I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

Yes the father had to respect the steps taken by his son, but maybe the refusal was not just because of differences in perspective but the father's way of saving his son from getting involved deeper in gambling, so refusing the money was like wanting to convey that it was not the right way to get money income or a way to solve the economic problems that the family is facing, because what the boy gets is just luck if the result is the other way around and the boy continues to gamble then the situation will only make it more difficult for their economy, and we also have to understand that gambling is not a way to solve economic difficulties because when you can get the jackpot it's just luck and it's impossible to always experience it.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 16, 2023, 03:40:38 PM

that son must have loved his father so much that he told his father about his big gambling win, but he did not understand more deeply about the character of his parents. conservative parents have a high degree of aversion to gambling (especially those who are truly religious) and it is difficult to change the perspective of parents with that type because for them money is not the most important thing but staying away from sin is the most important (I also have parents with this type of hardness and it's hard to change their way of thinking).

I don't think the son expected his father to act this way. If he had predicted the reaction of his father maybe he wouldn't have informed him. It may not be because of love for his father but out of excitement. The son might think that the father will be excited about his win and I am sure that he will be disappointed by his father's reactions.

The father has his reason for taking such a decision and standing by it. I also adore the father's character because he is not money conscious. Many parents will gladly accept the win forsaking their social or religious beliefs. The boy has to choose between obeying his father and retaining his lively and father's love or collecting the wins and risking losing his fathers' attention. If I were the boy, my mother will be the best person to convince my father to accept the win. She will do a very good job convincing my father.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 19, 2023, 04:40:21 PM

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Right! He needs his father now more than ever to guide him and steer him towards the right direction so that he will not be in an unwanted situations because the boy now has enough money to do what he wants and just because he's just a boy even though his age is already legal to do some things, he can still do some things that the father could not imagine as they money he have now can make him steer into a different direction that is different from the father's teachings.

Fathers are the best presents to children because they lead and provide stable pathways for the youngster to explore in the modern world. Gambling without the knowledge of the parents implies that the youngster has been betting for a long time, most likely winning the Lotto and attempting to celebrate with his father; perhaps the occurrence caught his father off guard; I understand where his guardian is coming from. Winning such a large sum of money through gambling is one of the first steps toward escaping poverty. Finally, the finance balance has been activated, and the primary objective is to shoot solid targets.

Considering that the boy was able to gamble all by himself is already a good reason to do it himself and decide for himself whether he will gamble for entertainment or for whatever reason or not. Respect is always on the table even if he caught his father off-guard by handing him that huge sum without any knowledge that he's been into gambling for quite some time already, what I don't understand is, due to the lack of information by the OP, why did the father rejected it. Is it because of their religion? Or because the father is very strict when it comes to gambling? As he knows for sure that it's very addictive especially if it's not used properly.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 19, 2023, 04:17:24 PM

Right! He needs his father now more than ever to guide him and steer him towards the right direction so that he will not be in an unwanted situations because the boy now has enough money to do what he wants and just because he's just a boy even though his age is already legal to do some things, he can still do some things that the father could not imagine as they money he have now can make him steer into a different direction that is different from the father's teachings.

Fathers are the best presents to children because they lead and provide stable pathways for the youngster to explore in the modern world. Gambling without the knowledge of the parents implies that the youngster has been betting for a long time, most likely winning the Lotto and attempting to celebrate with his father; perhaps the occurrence caught his father off guard; I understand where his guardian is coming from. Winning such a large sum of money through gambling is one of the first steps toward escaping poverty. Finally, the finance balance has been activated, and the primary objective is to shoot solid targets.

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The father of the boy must be a core Christian believer or a Muslim who sees gambling as a sin. They are not moved or cared about the amount their son won from gambling, they are going to reject it.

For the man's religion and beliefs, he might be right but for the societal sense, he is wrong. You don't make any sense in rejecting such a huge amount of money since it is not stolen or duped by people.

There's no way on earth, the boy would like to adhere to what his father said ''to return the money''. He will use the money to earn the support of all his family members which will make his father have a change of heart toward him because there is no way the money will be returned at this time Nigerian's homes are facing financial crises in rich and poor families.

The fact that the boy was responsible enough to have approached the father before the rejection shows how deeply rooted the family is in being responsible and religious, but that is not the case here, the case is why and what justification the father has to have rejected the boy and also what becomes of the boy going forward.

Because you can't say that the boy will turn out better by the father rejecting him rather than putting him under close observation to know and monitor his spending and lifestyle, what the father did was not wise enough in my observations.

Right! He needs his father now more than ever to guide him and steer him towards the right direction so that he will not be in an unwanted situations because the boy now has enough money to do what he wants and just because he's just a boy even though his age is already legal to do some things, he can still do some things that the father could not imagine as they money he have now can make him steer into a different direction that is different from the father's teachings.

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Quote from: flipme on June 16, 2023, 01:48:15 PM

I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

you touched on a good point, the son is already of legal age, the moment the son starts playing games of chance, then it is because he is over 18 years old and that means he is already an adult capable of taking decisions on their own, the father does not have the right to force the son to return money that the son won, I do not know how this story ended, but in legal terms the father cannot force the son to return the money he won in the game bad luck, the son can use that money to buy a house and do some business, because the son is already an adult

the son being an adult person should already think about being at his house and not being at the father's house, here in Africa the children, even though they are adults, stay at their parents' house and the parents continue to treat the adult children as if they were children and that happens it becomes very dangerous when we have cases like the one OP mentioned or when the son presents a wife and the father does not like the son's wife and forces his son to abandon this woman, these are very common problems that have happened here in Africa unfortunately

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on June 16, 2023, 06:21:58 PM

The father of the boy must be a core Christian believer or a Muslim who sees gambling as a sin. They are not moved or cared about the amount their son won from gambling, they are going to reject it.

For the man's religion and beliefs, he might be right but for the societal sense, he is wrong. You don't make any sense in rejecting such a huge amount of money since it is not stolen or duped by people.

There's no way on earth, the boy would like to adhere to what his father said ''to return the money''. He will use the money to earn the support of all his family members which will make his father have a change of heart toward him because there is no way the money will be returned at this time Nigerian's homes are facing financial crises in rich and poor families.

The fact that the boy was responsible enough to have approached the father before the rejection shows how deeply rooted the family is in being responsible and religious, but that is not the case here, the case is why and what justification the father has to have rejected the boy and also what becomes of the boy going forward.

Because you can't say that the boy will turn out better by the father rejecting him rather than putting him under close observation to know and monitor his spending and lifestyle, what the father did was not wise enough in my observations.

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The father of the boy must be a core Christian believer or a Muslim who sees gambling as a sin. They are not moved or cared about the amount their son won from gambling, they are going to reject it.

For the man's religion and beliefs, he might be right but for the societal sense, he is wrong. You don't make any sense in rejecting such a huge amount of money since it is not stolen or duped by people.

There's no way on earth, the boy would like to adhere to what his father said ''to return the money''. He will use the money to earn the support of all his family members which will make his father have a change of heart toward him because there is no way the money will be returned at this time Nigerian's homes are facing financial crises in rich and poor families.

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Quote from: flipme on June 16, 2023, 01:48:15 PM

I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

that son must have loved his father so much that he told his father about his big gambling win, but he did not understand more deeply about the character of his parents. conservative parents have a high degree of aversion to gambling (especially those who are truly religious) and it is difficult to change the perspective of parents with that type because for them money is not the most important thing but staying away from sin is the most important (I also have parents with this type of hardness and it's hard to change their way of thinking).

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Quote from: flipme on June 16, 2023, 01:48:15 PM

I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

Either way, we cannot verify these claims as we do not know the full story behind the father's rejection to the son's winnings from gambling. Their story might not be that common, but it surely attracts a lot of attention because apart from us here, other people as well who heard the news are also wondering what was reason behind the rejection as that kind of money was really hard to earn even if you take two jobs in a day because that will at least it take a couple of months or even years just to collect the same amount but that will have its own consequences like the time you've wasted trying to come up with a different way.

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I think the young man did a good job, but his father refused the money because he was a conservative person. He should think of ways to spend the money without telling his father about it. He can buy Bitcoin with his money and thus manage to hide it from his father. The young person in the news is over 18 years old. His father must now respect him in some matters. He may have conservative views on some issues, but he must respect his son's choices. Otherwise, they will have different discussions within the family and they will never be able to establish a healthy dialogue.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 15, 2023, 06:32:50 PM

Quote from: hakan2217 on June 13, 2023, 07:57:18 AM

Time to get his own flat then. Father is right in his perspective, if he thinks betting is bad thing win or loose doesn't metter . Then son should go live by himself, If he can bet himself he should be +18, he can (should) live by himself too. My Father is not diffrent aswell if I somehow win 100k$ I'm out simple as that. This is our lifes not others. I would not give that money back or donate it...

Returning a won money back is an insane move and I would also not give it back and also won't donate it because I still have lots of relatives that needs financial support. I would rather distribute them to my relatives than giving it to charity. I would not think of moving out because it is convenient to have other people by our side. They can support and help us in time of need immediately. Although I won't listen to the father's suggestion, i would also not push in giving him the money, I will give it to my mom and let her keep the money won in gambling.

Since the father is too stubborn to accept the money, his son could use the prize to buy things to gift his father through goods, instead of money. And he doesn't need to say the source of the money he has been using to purchase the gifts. It's simpler doing this than trying to convince the father he should accept gambling winnings or to not give him any financial support at all, because as an elder he must need extra money for his personal daily needs and those needs can't be neglected by the sons and daughters.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 11:58:06 AM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.
How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

Perhaps the Nigerian father considered gambling from a religious point of view. For which he did not accept that money. It is not unusual. Many families considered gambling as very badly. They think gambling will make their children bad. Even if they get greedy there they will lose all wealth. But there are some family fathers who take it easy when they get a big win. But it has been proven that the father OP mentioned who was not really greedy. This is a personal matter of that father. But most fathers will accept that money.

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