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Topic: A Poker Odds Calculator is a Perfect Tool for Poker? (Read 570 times)

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People have this thing called strategy, and that automatically nullifies the effectiveness of the calculated possibility of that calculator. I don't want to offend anyone, but you didn't have much chance of winning big. My friends and I often play in the casino and we rarely manage to win a large amount of money. If you want to be a good poker player and to win most of the time, I can suggest you take some courses in poker and it will help you a lot. I was like you but after some courses of poker from https://poker.md/best-poker-course/, now I win big money on it and I can buy what I want, travel where I want and I don't need to work for someone. Good luck!
tryin to calculate odds is a part of the strategy because you will have an edge if what to expect than not calculating at all but if you have a strategy are you sure that your strategy work as what you intend it ?

 i guess no but every strat can fail and if you have a few forumlated strat why not add this tool to enhance your chances of winning ( just in case  ) but you got a nice story there brother , thanks for inspiring people on this place  Cheesy .

poker course is helpful for newbies that dont know how to play poker games  
legendary
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platforms that prohibit and actively break HUDs (bovada/ignition come to mind) are interesting in this respect. their games have always been softer than the big sites---more recreational gamblers and less nits. so, that's something to consider too. the lower traffic can be mitigated by the more profitable games, and tbh it's just more fun playing on tables that aren't infested by nitty grinders.

it's been a while since i had to reload anywhere, but next time i do i'm gonna give ignition a whirl again. recreational players on anonymous tables and no HUDs sounds like a nice change of pace.
Isn't it a lost fight to try to block this kind of programs? I mean you can even try to build one based on image recognition and the poker company cannot do anything to stop you. The HUD can still be shown in an other window independent from their client

they just periodically block commercially advertised HUDs, which in turn deters some of them from being produced at all. i don't think it takes much work to do that. it's part of the whole branding of their poker room---fun and casual, no boring games full of rakeback grinders like pokerstars.
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In poker games I am a newbie, so this calculator tool is perfect for me. Especially regarding the arrangement of cards in poker games,
with this calculator I find it helpful. And also can learn a lot about poker games. Although to win in poker games cannot rely solely
on this calculator, we must also have knowledge and luck. So this calculator is only a supporting tool.
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I am wondering if there is a tool that can calculate your winning percentage that I can share to those who need it and here it is the poker calculator. It is knowledgeable that this calculator is not needed for veteran players. On some appss I use to practice there is even a gauge that shows my winning percentage in a bar form but still lose due to unpredictable cards from the other players.
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You heard it right, there is a tool that can calculate the odds of poker game and know your chances of winning.
I took a snapshot when tried to test how accurate it is but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.
But have a try first before you will share your thought and probably it will works on you.


https://www.pokernews.com/poker-tools/poker-odds-calculator.htm
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The Poker Odds Calculator will help you calculate your chances on a given hand, in any situation. One of the most interesting features of the PokerNews Poker Odds Calculator is the guide on the right column, which will show you which cards should strengthen (green) or weaken (red) your hand.
^ Nevertheless, let us discuss and share your thought!

I don't think that would count your chance of winning as every move changes another set of chance and other's cards can be drawn unexpectedly. There are billions of chances in poker especially as it has 52 cards that can be drawn on deck. Also, it is too hassle to input all the cards that you can see in your game, it wastes both effort and time in thinking everything by yourself, in which it would also give you less capable to use your knowledge off the experiences you've had.
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It's practically impossible to survive at the highest ranks, particularly when multi-tabling if you don't have a HUD on your side.

platforms that prohibit and actively break HUDs (bovada/ignition come to mind) are interesting in this respect. their games have always been softer than the big sites---more recreational gamblers and less nits. so, that's something to consider too. the lower traffic can be mitigated by the more profitable games, and tbh it's just more fun playing on tables that aren't infested by nitty grinders.

it's been a while since i had to reload anywhere, but next time i do i'm gonna give ignition a whirl again. recreational players on anonymous tables and no HUDs sounds like a nice change of pace.
Isn't it a lost fight to try to block this kind of programs? I mean you can even try to build one based on image recognition and the poker company cannot do anything to stop you. The HUD can still be shown in an other window independent from their client
legendary
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It's practically impossible to survive at the highest ranks, particularly when multi-tabling if you don't have a HUD on your side.

platforms that prohibit and actively break HUDs (bovada/ignition come to mind) are interesting in this respect. their games have always been softer than the big sites---more recreational gamblers and less nits. so, that's something to consider too. the lower traffic can be mitigated by the more profitable games, and tbh it's just more fun playing on tables that aren't infested by nitty grinders.

it's been a while since i had to reload anywhere, but next time i do i'm gonna give ignition a whirl again. recreational players on anonymous tables and no HUDs sounds like a nice change of pace.
legendary
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There are already dozens of tools like this out there already, practically every professional Poker player that plays online uses some assistive tools like this.

In the world of poker we call them heads up displays (HUDs). They can be used to track the cards of other players, estimate the odds you have the best hand, and even calculate how much you should bet based on the action.

It's practically impossible to survive at the highest ranks, particularly when multi-tabling if you don't have a HUD on your side.
legendary
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the important thing to remember is that AA in a multi-way pot---especially on a wet (draw-heavy) board---is not that strong of a hand. against 3 random hands preflop it's not far from a coin flip, and postflop in that situation it's much worse yet. still, often times people find it difficult to ever fold AA, even in that situation.

the worst thing you can do IMO is limp with AA and then refuse to fold postflop in a family pot. it's a recipe for disaster. the best strategy is usually to bet starting hand equity when you have it, not wait until your equity declines on the flop.

Against 3 random hands pre-flop, I don't think an AA is as weak as having only a coin flip winning probability.

if you limp AA into a 4-way pot and play to showdown every time, you're gonna lose ~2 out of every 5 hands:



in fact, the odds are probably slightly worse considering the 4th active player (not on the blinds) probably has a better than random starting hand.

not a 50-50 chance no, but like i said, not far from it.
legendary
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playing it aggressively preflop is always advisable, so you don't end up in family pots. against 3 random hands, AA only wins at showdown ~60% of the time. when you isolate one player before the flop (with a raise) you have much better chances of winning.

I agree. Unlikely close competitors should be eliminated before the flop happens. Don't give them the slightest chance to have a winning window.

However, I am sometimes torn hard between trying to make money and trying to weed out the bad cards as early as possible. A perfect raise, not too high for those holding better cards to scare away instead of gambling on but too high for the ones holding a 2 and a 7 to pay just for the flop, is hard to estimate.

very true, and it will differ at every table depending on player styles, so there is no such thing as a perfect raise. on tables with a high % of players seeing flops, it can be difficult to isolate one or even two players preflop. in those cases, it can be prudent to increase your initial raise and 3-bet amounts, to give the gamblers worse odds to call you.

the important thing to remember is that AA in a multi-way pot---especially on a wet (draw-heavy) board---is not that strong of a hand. against 3 random hands preflop it's not far from a coin flip, and postflop in that situation it's much worse yet. still, often times people find it difficult to ever fold AA, even in that situation.

the worst thing you can do IMO is limp with AA and then refuse to fold postflop in a family pot. it's a recipe for disaster. the best strategy is usually to bet starting hand equity when you have it, not wait until your equity declines on the flop.

Against 3 random hands pre-flop, I don't think an AA is as weak as having only a coin flip winning probability. But if after the flop you remain to be only as strong as AA, then it is indeed more or less a coin flip.

And things would get even worse if you finally reached the river with still only the AA as your hand. At that point, you are already definitely losing that early advantage. Your AA is now a hand which is not worth calling every single raise.

But, to stay on topic, that odds calculator might still actually give you a high chance of winning depending on the community cards on the table. If that happens, you should treat it as nothing special.

Although, yes, I personally find it really difficult to fold an AA especially after having raised earlier and then called a number of times. But I might be forced to finally concede defeat and fold if the raise is getting very high. It all now depends on the game, and how much is left with you, and whether you're already starting to shiver trying to hopelessly defend that pair of Aces against a bully. Grin
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I heard that when playing in fixed limit poker you can be guaranteed to win in certain conditions using this sorts of calculators. Does anyone have heard of this ?
legendary
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playing it aggressively preflop is always advisable, so you don't end up in family pots. against 3 random hands, AA only wins at showdown ~60% of the time. when you isolate one player before the flop (with a raise) you have much better chances of winning.

I agree. Unlikely close competitors should be eliminated before the flop happens. Don't give them the slightest chance to have a winning window.

However, I am sometimes torn hard between trying to make money and trying to weed out the bad cards as early as possible. A perfect raise, not too high for those holding better cards to scare away instead of gambling on but too high for the ones holding a 2 and a 7 to pay just for the flop, is hard to estimate.

very true, and it will differ at every table depending on player styles, so there is no such thing as a perfect raise. on tables with a high % of players seeing flops, it can be difficult to isolate one or even two players preflop. in those cases, it can be prudent to increase your initial raise and 3-bet amounts, to give the gamblers worse odds to call you.

the important thing to remember is that AA in a multi-way pot---especially on a wet (draw-heavy) board---is not that strong of a hand. against 3 random hands preflop it's not far from a coin flip, and postflop in that situation it's much worse yet. still, often times people find it difficult to ever fold AA, even in that situation.

the worst thing you can do IMO is limp with AA and then refuse to fold postflop in a family pot. it's a recipe for disaster. the best strategy is usually to bet starting hand equity when you have it, not wait until your equity declines on the flop.
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It looks like the calculator would not be liable since there are only few cards in poker could be use and higher chances that high cards could be in the hands of other players. There is no really calculator could help you win in poker. If you have played in e games poker that has a indicator that your cards holding has higher chances to win. Yet, even if it has indicator I still get lost though I have the high chances of winning for other players were lucky to surpass the cards being held at hand.

Sorry mate, but this is wrong. It seems you just don't play enough poker to actually profit off the correct plays. It's all about statistics, AA or KK will win in most cases over low value cards. But if you only play a few times a year poker than this doesn't matter for your so much. As in any form of gambling you just can be unlucky and be suckered by a worse card. It happens, you just need to be playing more.

But then in the end, is it really worth it? If it's just a game of fun and you play for a small stakes, I wouldn't bother with a calculator like this. Better to have fun with friends, then trying to take their money away.
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It looks like the calculator would not be liable since there are only few cards in poker could be use and higher chances that high cards could be in the hands of other players. There is no really calculator could help you win in poker. If you have played in e games poker that has a indicator that your cards holding has higher chances to win. Yet, even if it has indicator I still get lost though I have the high chances of winning for other players were lucky to surpass the cards being held at hand.
legendary
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Since a pair of aces is the best hand you can get pre-flop it makes sense to play aggressively with them, however there are many merits on playing your hand slowly and trapping your opponent especially if he is the aggressive type.

playing it aggressively preflop is always advisable, so you don't end up in family pots. against 3 random hands, AA only wins at showdown ~60% of the time. when you isolate one player before the flop (with a raise) you have much better chances of winning.

I agree. Unlikely close competitors should be eliminated before the flop happens. Don't give them the slightest chance to have a winning window.

However, I am sometimes torn hard between trying to make money and trying to weed out the bad cards as early as possible. A perfect raise, not too high for those holding better cards to scare away instead of gambling on but too high for the ones holding a 2 and a 7 to pay just for the flop, is hard to estimate.

Also it makes sense to mix up the way you play to keep your opponents out of balance and always guessing about your playing style, and if you can incorporate this to your playing style you will become a more effective poker player.

in micro/low stakes, a generic tight-aggressive style still works pretty well. in mid-high stakes, i agree that you need to switch things up.

I guess it is much better not to show any single pattern. Be the aggressor at times. Trap them at times. Bluff and intentionally lose at times. Cheesy
legendary
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Since a pair of aces is the best hand you can get pre-flop it makes sense to play aggressively with them, however there are many merits on playing your hand slowly and trapping your opponent especially if he is the aggressive type.

playing it aggressively preflop is always advisable, so you don't end up in family pots. against 3 random hands, AA only wins at showdown ~60% of the time. when you isolate one player before the flop (with a raise) you have much better chances of winning.

Also it makes sense to mix up the way you play to keep your opponents out of balance and always guessing about your playing style, and if you can incorporate this to your playing style you will become a more effective poker player.

in micro/low stakes, a generic tight-aggressive style still works pretty well. in mid-high stakes, i agree that you need to switch things up.
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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
I think this is the same calculator that they are using at poker games streamed on television.
Right?
You can see percentage of winning of one player just as the camera saw his cards.
But it changes. Even a 2 and 3 of diamonds could get a high chance of winning once the flop happened.
Pair of Aces can lose any time once every card is facing up.
That is why I want to finish it at the start when I have that pair.  Grin

I don't think it's a good tool for me, anything could happen.

Same here. LOL!

It may sound absurd but I sometimes do all in if I have that card. No need to wait for the flop. Make the bad cards fold as early as possible and deprive them of ever seeing their probability of winning rise.

It is better to let the game end like a purely random game rather than have your pair of aces be defeated by a 2 and a 6. LOL! Grin
Since a pair of aces is the best hand you can get pre-flop it makes sense to play aggressively with them, however there are many merits on playing your hand slowly and trapping your opponent especially if he is the aggressive type.

Also it makes sense to mix up the way you play to keep your opponents out of balance and always guessing about your playing style, and if you can incorporate this to your playing style you will become a more effective poker player.

This is a link to the top 5 traps of the decade, while that title is debatable you will see some impressive traps and the first one on the video is of a pocket pair of aces. Enjoy. Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VBKhAMSvNg
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It all depends on what you are planning to do with poker. If you only play once every two weeks with friends, I get your approach. It's all about having fun. The variance in your cards is much higher.

This perhaps doesn't need any deep skills to learn such as memorizing the deck because your intention is just to have fun. But if you are playing with your friends and there's still a huge bet involved, it is in your advantage to win if you are familiar with the cards you and your friends are holding.

But if you want to have fun and to look professional when playing with your friends online, you can use these Odds Calculator, it might not directly help but it will increase your chance of predicting the outcome of the game.
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I think this is the same calculator that they are using at poker games streamed on television.
Right?
You can see percentage of winning of one player just as the camera saw his cards.
But it changes. Even a 2 and 3 of diamonds could get a high chance of winning once the flop happened.
Pair of Aces can lose any time once every card is facing up.
That is why I want to finish it at the start when I have that pair.  Grin

I don't think it's a good tool for me, anything could happen.

Same here. LOL!

It may sound absurd but I sometimes do all in if I have that card. No need to wait for the flop. Make the bad cards fold as early as possible and deprive them of ever seeing their probability of winning rise.

It is better to let the game end like a purely random game rather than have your pair of aces be defeated by a 2 and a 6. LOL! Grin

It all depends on what you are planning to do with poker. If you only play once every two weeks with friends, I get your approach. It's all about having fun. The variance in your cards is much higher.

But if you actually play thousands of hands over a longer period of time (good players easily play 4-8 tables at once on multiple screens) then going all in randomly is not the best approach. Over a long period of time AA will beat 26 off easily.
legendary
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I think this is the same calculator that they are using at poker games streamed on television.
Right?
You can see percentage of winning of one player just as the camera saw his cards.
But it changes. Even a 2 and 3 of diamonds could get a high chance of winning once the flop happened.
Pair of Aces can lose any time once every card is facing up.
That is why I want to finish it at the start when I have that pair.  Grin

I don't think it's a good tool for me, anything could happen.

Same here. LOL!

It may sound absurd but I sometimes do all in if I have that card. No need to wait for the flop. Make the bad cards fold as early as possible and deprive them of ever seeing their probability of winning rise.

It is better to let the game end like a purely random game rather than have your pair of aces be defeated by a 2 and a 6. LOL! Grin
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