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Topic: A Poker Odds Calculator is a Perfect Tool for Poker? - page 4. (Read 539 times)

legendary
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I disagree with the idea that this tool is good for beginners.

Instead of feeding their mind with proper basic knowledge, they will be getting used to using that tool to assist them in each of their session. Let these beginners squeezed their minds in order to win with their own skills as their foundation and reference.

That tool is way better to use by experienced ones as that will act as their additional reference alongside their own knowledge and skills about dealing with their opponents on the table.
legendary
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It's definitely helpful when you are still learning the game and also while mastering the game, you would always want to come back to such a calculator to do some hand reviews and improve your game.

But as you found out yourself with this.....

(...)but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.

......the real difficulty with Poker lies in guessing and anticipating what your opponent(s) hold. And this is the biggest part. If you mastered to read your opponents on any level, you will be successful in Poker. Why ? Because most of the times you won't have the nuts, full house, a flush or trips, but one pair, two pair or even nothing. And when you have some kind of a hand, but there could be a shitload of better hands, that is where the problems start.

this is where ranges come in. very seldom will you be able to read the exact hand your opponent is holding. usually you are playing against a range of possible hands, including the nuts, weaker made hands, draws, and pure bluffs.

a next level odds calculator i recommend is pokerstove: https://www.cardschat.com/poker-stove.php

it allows you to incorporate things like hand ranges, opponents with random hands, etc and is free.
legendary
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Probably it could help you to master the poker game but not for instance that you can depend on this calculator algorithm all along.

It could help you to be better only if you are new on this, otherwise it wont really help anything

Nevertheless, a bluff from opponents that pretend has a better hand will have an impact in every decision you have. The calculator probably gives a percentage of your winning but it could not read a bluff fro your opponents.

This calculator , calculate the chances for you to win with your respective cards against the other. Even if someone bluff, as long as you correctly input your card into that calculator then it will show you the chances

In the OP thread picture, there is a possiblity for a flush which loses against Full house at 48.21% however another possibility for Straight Flush at 40%. Knowing this chances, someone could easily take measurement not to raise too high as 40% chances to lose is quite high

So even if someone tried to bluff, you know their chances to beat you is around 40% with this calculator so you can either go for it or fold

I already did this, sometime it will give accurate result but there are instances I made a wrong decision.

would be hard to use this while concentrating on the game
hero member
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Maybe that will be a perfect tool for the beginner,.
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It's definitely helpful when you are still learning the game...
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..this could be useful for a beginner, but not on the pro scene.
^ All of you are definitely right, I realize that this calculator is good for beginners that did not know the correct handling of cards and which combination could defeat your opponent. Probably it could help you to master the poker game but not for instance that you can depend on this calculator algorithm all along. Nevertheless, a bluff from opponents that pretend has a better hand will have an impact in every decision you have. The calculator probably gives a percentage of your winning but it could not read a bluff fro your opponents.
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I just wonder if you could apply this tool especially when you are playing live in online poker games? For example, opening this tool on the other tab or monitor. If so, you are in a great advantage.
^ I already did this, sometime it will give accurate result but there are instances I made a wrong decision.
legendary
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It will only be beneficial if you are trying out poker and learning the game. But against a real-life, money-at-stake setting, I doubt that it will be even useful especially on instances that a quick decision is needed. Poker isn't as easy as making an algorithm and letting the computer do the work; there are tons of factors that come to play when dealing with other people's hands. Luck also comes to play aside from being the better Nostradamus of all the players in the table. Most of the time you will be dealt with a shitton of useless cards and your opponent has the godly full house or whatever winning hand that could be, and you just have to guess when to back out or pull a bluff and win, and I don't think this tool would even know that. But yeah, for reviewing matches and learning the ropes of poker, this could be useful for a beginner, but not on the pro scene.
legendary
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It's definitely helpful when you are still learning the game and also while mastering the game, you would always want to come back to such a calculator to do some hand reviews and improve your game.

But as you found out yourself with this.....

(...)but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.

......the real difficulty with Poker lies in guessing and anticipating what your opponent(s) hold. And this is the biggest part. If you mastered to read your opponents on any level, you will be successful in Poker. Why ? Because most of the times you won't have the nuts, full house, a flush or trips, but one pair, two pair or even nothing. And when you have some kind of a hand, but there could be a shitload of better hands, that is where the problems start. If you are good at reading your opponent, you will be able to make good/valuable decisions and money as a result. And an odds calculator can't help you with that unfortunately Grin There is some software that can assist you with analyzing your opponents, but there is a big human factor, which all players have to work on themselves.
sr. member
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I kindda say, this is beneficial for online gambling, but if you are playing poker in physical casino with live players, most of the time, the best of the best have a very good experience in memorizing the cards as it gives you the advantage to somehow guess with higher accuracy than just reading your opponent's mind and facial expression.

I just wonder if you could apply this tool especially when you are playing live in online poker games? For example, opening this tool on the other tab or monitor. If so, you are in a great advantage.
hero member
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Maybe that will be a perfect tool for the beginner, but for the veteran or pro poker player, they don't need the calculator because they know what it needs. However, as it is written on the quote, it can help every poker player know how big their chance to win the games. I wish I know these games much because I feel that it is difficult for me to understand the poker games Huh
hero member
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You heard it right, there is a tool that can calculate the odds of poker game and know your chances of winning.
I took a snapshot when tried to test how accurate it is but I saw that it will remain unpredictable against the odds of your opponent.
But have a try first before you will share your thought and probably it will works on you.


https://www.pokernews.com/poker-tools/poker-odds-calculator.htm
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The Poker Odds Calculator will help you calculate your chances on a given hand, in any situation. One of the most interesting features of the PokerNews Poker Odds Calculator is the guide on the right column, which will show you which cards should strengthen (green) or weaken (red) your hand.
^ Nevertheless, let us discuss and share your thought!
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