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Quote from: Darker45 on June 23, 2020, 11:04:40 PM

If, for example, somebody would all in, would you call given that your winning chance as per the tool is 59.4%? To be frank, I won't. I won't be absolutely trusting my pair of Kings in this case. It could easily be defeated with a pair of 9s or a seemingly very weak hand as a 10-diamond and 2-heart.

I would. If the tool is a good one and it calculates percentage properly I would always call at such odds. 60% is too good to miss out. I will win 6 out of 10 times. Why not?

Of course we have to give amounts too. $10 buy in I do not blink,,, $1000?

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Quote from: Darker45 on June 23, 2020, 11:04:40 PM

From the OP's image, your 59.4% winning probability vs. your opponents' 40.6% may not actually end up in your favor. You should never ever rely on it.

you can't rely on anything that is chance-based. i will say though, although 60/40 flips are high variance (you will win many and also lose many) they are profitable in the long run. in cash games you can get your chips in all day with those odds.

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Sometimes you can win using that calculator but there are also times that it will lead you to lose. In poker, it is not just the cards your are playing with, you should also know what other players hand. If you are greed to call because this odds calculate 60% chance of winning, you may turn down when you see that your opponent have a great cards. Yes, we can use this but don`t be dependent your game in calculator. We have our own guts in playing, we just need to believe in ourselves.

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At least, the new people can learn how to match the cards with the tools to know what they need to do if they have those cards. Perhaps, they can improve their skills in poker games, and they will have more experience, so that can help them to against more poker players to get more experience. I am sure that if they can learn from those tools, they will have more strategies that will be useful for them in every poker game. And who knows, if they can improve their skills, they can be a new pro poker player, and they will more chance to win the poker tournaments.

We should try to do many things to become a pro poker player if that is our dream, and we should not give up before we succeed to reach the goals.

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Very far from being a perfect tool. Well, it somehow measures how strong your hand is but then it is not something that will act as your perfect guide even in a single round. After all, it is poker. And that tool does not have any idea as to your opponents' cards. The tool does not predict either.

From the OP's image, your 59.4% winning probability vs. your opponents' 40.6% may not actually end up in your favor. You should never ever rely on it.

If, for example, somebody would all in, would you call given that your winning chance as per the tool is 59.4%? To be frank, I won't. I won't be absolutely trusting my pair of Kings in this case. It could easily be defeated with a pair of 9s or a seemingly very weak hand as a 10-diamond and 2-heart.

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I never thought that there's a tool like this that can able to calculate possible on hand results.

Poker is a very tricky game for me, it might require players in good analyzing, both the cards on hand and the opponent's mind. I believed that a poker player is good in mind reading but sometimes bluffing might become harder for you to think the opponent's possible combination of cards. Cheesy

How this bot gives a perfect result in having decisions like when you will decide to fold or place bet more and thinking that you have better odds.

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My thought, the tool is useless as per OP's experience. There is no way we can predict the outcome of the poker session with this kind of calculator. We can't just calculate the possibility by just the cards on the hand. People have this thing called strategy, and that automatically nullifies the effectiveness of the calculated possibility of that calculator.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on June 22, 2020, 11:39:04 PM

I really can't see myself sitting in a Casino and blurting out "Hang on people, I'll just check the odds of these two cards against the app in my pocket."

It *might* help you playing online, but I've seen Texas Hold Em can get pretty quick, so by the time you've entered details it's back to your turn again and everyone is waiting.

As an educational tool for someone starting out it could be ok, but people should familiarise themselves with the odds in play ahead of game day.

it's really not for use at the table---more so for reviewing hands afterwards.

when difficult spots come up, it's important to analyze them after the fact, determine your opponents' ranges, and run the odds so that you better understand where you stand next time.

once you get simple odds down (made hands, draws) then you can start incorporating things like pot odds, fold equity, ICM, etc to get a more complete view of the probabilities at play. poker is all about extracting value in EV+ situations when your opponents are gambling with bad odds.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on June 22, 2020, 11:39:04 PM

It *might* help you playing online, but I've seen Texas Hold Em can get pretty quick, so by the time you've entered details it's back to your turn again and everyone is waiting.

I expect that anyone that play online poker is definitely not a 'beginner' anymore because it involves some money unless of course it is some freeroll. I refer this to a total beginner that dont know a full house is higher than a straight or a flush, complete total 'beginner'. Assuming that you are a higher level than the 'beginner' stage and you choose to use this, Imagine how hard would it be to concentrate while using this

This could be good to use at post game review when you want to review your chances on specific round but again there is better calculator out there

Quote from: figmentofmyass on June 22, 2020, 03:36:27 PM

a next level odds calculator i recommend is pokerstove: https://www.cardschat.com/poker-stove.php

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many factors can affect your game or on this game because this game is a mix of skill and luck so fully reallying on this tool isnt really a good idea but odd calculator can only give you an overview or an estimation if what are the odds you can get on the game that your trying to play .

this tool is cool because its only specific for poker , this gives more better accuracy than compare to the general odd calculator that some gambling site provide so still thank you this

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Uhhh...I think this built for educational purposes for learning the game and helping you to see every possible scenario. Kinda great practicing your poker skill while you're off the table.

It's a great tool for starters when you're trying to learn the game, but the tool is not applicable in a live game.

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This seems like a great tool for beginners to get better in poker. But once you play for a while you will be familiar with your calling and betting ranges. Eventually you know by heart from which positions you can play which cards.

To find any mistakes in your game it should be a good tool. In the end having a slightly higher winning rate might be nice, but if you can play 2 more tables at the same time with a little bit lower winnings but therefore more winnings. It's better to increase your numbers of tables you can play at once.

Don't forget there is a huge variance in poker involved. It might takes thousands of hands to actually see your higher winning rates.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 22, 2020, 09:34:25 AM

I kindda say, this is beneficial for online gambling, but if you are playing poker in physical casino with live players, most of the time, the best of the best have a very good experience in memorizing the cards as it gives you the advantage to somehow guess with higher accuracy than just reading your opponent's mind and facial expression.

I just wonder if you could apply this tool especially when you are playing live in online poker games? For example, opening this tool on the other tab or monitor. If so, you are in a great advantage.

Yes you can use this even you are playing online and live poker games as it only requires a user input on what is currently your cards that you hold and the cards on the table. It only calculates the odds but there are a lot of possibilities in playing card games especially poker most especially if the players are more than 5, hence, accuracy is too blurry even with less players, the chances of their cards is too random, better call it luck if you followed the tool and still win.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on June 22, 2020, 11:39:04 PM

I really can't see myself sitting in a Casino and blurting out "Hang on people, I'll just check the odds of these two cards against the app in my pocket."

It *might* help you playing online, but I've seen Texas Hold Em can get pretty quick, so by the time you've entered details it's back to your turn again and everyone is waiting.

As an educational tool for someone starting out it could be ok, but people should familiarise themselves with the odds in play ahead of game day.

Indeed. It's like pausing the game and just input all the necessary fields in the tool yet only calculates the possibilities but with no certainty. I've tried it but even if you input so many random numbers and tried it so many times, the chances remains 50-50 and your winning is either a 100% or 0%. LOL

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I think that this is a good tool or nice to have while you are playing as it can give you some guidance as to whether what to do next.For professional level players this maybe not the perfect tool but I think having a calculator right next to your screen while playing can be a good indicator of what to do next.For example when I am in doubt if to go all in or not this calculator can give me a small hint.

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Pretty much you can not use that in an actual game but it is kind of neat for an online match because certainly the application can see both hands, but it is not really that needed when playing your way out and you had the skill in winning a poker game, but for some newbies in the poker gamblig it will surely help them with making decisions if the calculator is applicable in that certain online poker game that they are playing which is most of the time they don't really have calculator like this.

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I really can't see myself sitting in a Casino and blurting out "Hang on people, I'll just check the odds of these two cards against the app in my pocket."

It *might* help you playing online, but I've seen Texas Hold Em can get pretty quick, so by the time you've entered details it's back to your turn again and everyone is waiting.

As an educational tool for someone starting out it could be ok, but people should familiarise themselves with the odds in play ahead of game day.

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Quote from: harizen on June 22, 2020, 04:47:24 PM

I disagree with the idea that this tool is good for beginners.

Instead of feeding their mind with proper basic knowledge, they will be getting used to using that tool to assist them in each of their session. Let these beginners squeezed their minds in order to win with their own skills as their foundation and reference.

That tool is way better to use by experienced ones as that will act as their additional reference alongside their own knowledge and skills about dealing with their opponents on the table.

The beginners need to have basic knowledge of poker games, but with that additional tools, they will have a chance to improve their skills, and maybe they will know how to bluff the opponent. Maybe that will not work if the opponent is a master in the poker games, but if they can play among the beginner, that will help them to win. The experience poker games can also improve their skills by knowing how to bluff the opponent on the table.

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Awesome this will help me as I often might miss a possibility, I've only been playing vs friends on a friendly platform type game but I do think its good for people coming into the game. A crutch is not a good idea in the long term but this could also be good for underlining the rules and this idea of contrasting your hand vs other possibles.
As far as the OP bet goes I'd take take that risk as you wont often get full house but its a bit unfortunate in being a very rare straight flush there for anyone to take, at least the risk is clear not hidden. Take the gamble seems profitable to me, try to avoid over stating your hand is how I'd go with that. 40% risk is too much to go all in but we cant say sitting here on the thread as people give extra clues in their behaviour at the time and judging the confidence they have etc. If they were confident early on then you are good to go ahead as only on the river did you get your pay off thats unlikely to be beaten, unfortunately that also occurred for the straight flush.

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Not really helping.

They still have some scenario someone has 9 Four Of King since on the table we have 9 Pair, this tools just make you confident doing all in then you got a trap with that's just because seeing the percentage of your winning rate.

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Quote from: harizen on June 22, 2020, 04:47:24 PM

I disagree with the idea that this tool is good for beginners.

Instead of feeding their mind with proper basic knowledge, they will be getting used to using that tool to assist them in each of their session. Let these beginners squeezed their minds in order to win with their own skills as their foundation and reference.

That tool is way better to use by experienced ones as that will act as their additional reference alongside their own knowledge and skills about dealing with their opponents on the table.

You got a point though but i can see that this one would really be beneficial for noobs.This might not really give out much knowledge but they would able to grasp everything when they do gain experience.

Sooner or later they will realize that this wont really be enough and they should take proper card handling to increase their odds which cant really be shown by this Tool.

Its a relevant one but we know that winning Poker does really need several factors too.

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