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Topic: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping - page 71. (Read 122577 times)

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Yes, we posted this some time back and I thought I added it to the OP for this thread.  It clearly shows the A4 is capable of a lot more than what we are seeing with the current specs.  I can only speculate that it means we will see newer models later capable of much higher hash rates. 

Still waiting for that video of the A4 Dominator miner to see the size, noise levels, operating temps, hash rate, power at the wall etc.
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Cool video. I don't know when it was made, but it's definitely an A4.
I did see that they have 3 different hashrates to alter the power consumption.
That will help with as the miners age, making them more efficient to run on electricity.

The video says uploaded "more than 1 month ago" however I got this link from my browser history dated in May. I think the link is in this actual discussion somewhere.....
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Cool video. I don't know when it was made, but it's definitely an A4.
I did see that they have 3 different hashrates to alter the power consumption.
That will help with as the miners age, making them more efficient to run on electricity.
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I have asked about the video and have not heard anything back yet.  I will ask again.  I think we all want to see the miner in action! 

I remember seeing this video a while ago. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTYwMTEwMTcyNA==.html?qq-pf-to=pcqq.c2c

Are you talking about an updated one with a proper board or a proper unit and not a 1 chip demo?
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I have asked about the video and have not heard anything back yet.  I will ask again.  I think we all want to see the miner in action! 
legendary
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Yea, I haven't seen any video yet either. Didn't think one was available but that it was still being created.
They plan to ship in Aug/Sep, so not expecting to see any HW being produced till the end of Aug.
Hoping they have the video before then.
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Off the wall question...
What's involved in figuring out how to buy the chips directly and implement a small-ish miner with just a few chips?
What type of circuit engineering is needed? Is anyone thinknig about a small rig implementation?
I do not have any clue what would be involved, but it seems it would be an interesting idea, for those who don't want/need a large piece of gear but would prefer to have a much smaller desktop rig based on the A4 chip.
Are there any companies who buy the chips and implement their own circuit boards?

Also a discussion at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-are-the-manufactures-currently-selling-chips-1002697

Any way you slice n dice it, it appears as a dead end.....

legendary
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I wasn't going to rush them, since they already said that shipping would be figured closer to actual distribution.
I think if I haven't heard back by mid Aug, ill probably drop a note by then.
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You should ping Chloe and ask her based on your location and number of miners what the shipping estimate will be.  
legendary
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i think the shipping will depend on volume to a single location.
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I see no reason why they can't produce 1,000 A4 machines.  280 GH/s added to the Scrypt network not necessarily just to LTC is possible IMO.

Do you know how many A2s they've produced in the past?  That would help with projections....
No I do not.  But took a stab at what I think is a realistic number considering they were looking for $1.5 Million USD for partners.

On a side note what is the expected shipping cost per unit through DHL?  The estimate I just tried to find out seemed WAY high around $450. 
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Thanks, I just think there could be a market for smaller machines which don't require such a high degree of investment or power requirements.
It might open up the market to a broader base of miners...
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Off the wall question...
What's involved in figuring out how to buy the chips directly and implement a small-ish miner with just a few chips?
What type of circuit engineering is needed? Is anyone thinknig about a small rig implementation?
I do not have any clue what would be involved, but it seems it would be an interesting idea, for those who don't want/need a large piece of gear but would prefer to have a much smaller desktop rig based on the A4 chip.
Are there any companies who buy the chips and implement their own circuit boards?

I think you're looking for an Original Design Manufacturer and I've looked before and couldn't find one (other than those who claim they can in Alibaba).  There are certainly EEs out there who have made small batch machines like the FutureBit Moonlander but I can't find a commercial service.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-futurebit-moonlander-a-modern-and-efficient-scrypt-usb-stick-miner-1248914

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I see no reason why they can't produce 1,000 A4 machines.  280 GH/s added to the Scrypt network not necessarily just to LTC is possible IMO.

Do you know how many A2s they've produced in the past?  That would help with projections....
legendary
Activity: 1109
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Off the wall question...
What's involved in figuring out how to buy the chips directly and implement a small-ish miner with just a few chips?
What type of circuit engineering is needed? Is anyone thinknig about a small rig implementation?
I do not have any clue what would be involved, but it seems it would be an interesting idea, for those who don't want/need a large piece of gear but would prefer to have a much smaller desktop rig based on the A4 chip.
Are there any companies who buy the chips and implement their own circuit boards?
legendary
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I see no reason why they can't produce 1,000 A4 machines.  280 GH/s added to the Scrypt network not necessarily just to LTC is possible IMO.
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If we limit the measurement of scrypt network hashrate to coins at coinwarz.com, at this moment only, there's about 5,100GH/s for all scrypt coins in the "universe".
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/?sha256hr=9460.00&sha256p=2600.00&sha256pc=0.1000&sha256c=false&scrypthr=110000.00&scryptp=1000.00&scryptpc=0.1000&scryptc=true&x11hr=34.40&x11p=600.00&x11pc=0.1000&x11c=false&keccakhr=1000.00&keccakp=600.00&keccakpc=0.1000&keccakc=false&quarkhr=20000.00&quarkp=600.00&quarkpc=0.1000&quarkc=false&groestlhr=45.00&groestlp=825.00&groestlpc=0.1000&groestlc=false&blake256hr=11.20&blake256p=600.00&blake256pc=0.1000&blake256c=false&neoscrypthr=400.00&neoscryptp=400.00&neoscryptpc=0.1000&neoscryptc=false&lyra2rev2hr=30.00&lyra2rev2p=600.00&lyra2rev2pc=0.1000&lyra2rev2c=false&cryptonighthr=1950.00&cryptonightp=750.00&cryptonightpc=0.1000&cryptonightc=falseðashhr=108.00ðashp=600.00ðashpc=0.1000ðashc=false&e=Coinbase

Torturing that logic, LTC is about 31% of the total network hashrate.  Now if we look at the known pre-orders for the A4, we have about 21GH/s being added so we then allocate 31% of that number (6.51GH/s) to LTC.  

Now using the the litecoin difficulty from bitcoinwisdom and project the addition of the 6.51 GH/s to the 1.6 TH/s network hashrate you have less than 1% addition to network and thus a small bump in difficulty.  If you put ALL the new hashrate to LTC you would only bump the network rate up ~1%
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/difficulty

The big unknown as far as projecting difficulty increases for LTC (and the LTC calculator) will be the rate of release of new machines into the market by Innosilicon and we have no idea of their production capacity.  

Based on the limited assumptions above, to double the entire scrypt universe network hashrate, Innosilicon would need to release about 18,000 new machines at 280MH/machine.





 
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