Topic: Account farming. Allowed? - page 22. (Read 51912 times)

Wouldn't the easiest way to weed out spammers be correlation of a single IP address to multiple accounts?
Is it a possibility that someone would go through the trouble of using a proxy/ tor etc for each account so none of them posted from the same address?

The only way to end spam would be to dis-allow signature campaigns.
I know that when I first joined a campaign I got a little excited and made some extra posts.
For someone that really needs the money, they definitely have an incentive to hit the max posts every day.
And for someone who has the skills to program a network of bot accounts and automate their posting, it might be worth the time if some of the figures posted in this thread are accurate.

                               Posts Activity      Registered                         Last Seen
u=492171   JoeBriggs   110   110   March 24, 2015, 06:13:03 PM   July 07, 2015, 02:00:05 AM
u=492172   HobbitMud   110   110   March 24, 2015, 06:13:56 PM   July 07, 2015, 02:30:05 AM
u=492173   bombding   110   110   March 24, 2015, 06:15:30 PM   July 07, 2015, 03:00:26 AM

u=492177   givedusty   110   110   March 24, 2015, 06:20:29 PM   July 07, 2015, 03:30:05 AM
u=492178   jimpix   110   110   March 24, 2015, 06:21:26 PM   July 07, 2015, 04:00:05 AM

u=492180   NeliFur   110   110   March 24, 2015, 06:22:39 PM   July 07, 2015, 04:30:06 AM

That does call for a negative ,no ? Let's bring this to attention of DT members and have the accounts tagged accordingly.

Jimbola3

#spamcity

Maybe not.You don't have to be a spammer to be listed up there.The list is about the account farmer who most probabaly sold you the account.Could you be nice enough to tell us whom did you purchase the account from?

Are you guys talking about spamming or just account trading?
Because i found my account in there and my account is surely a bought one but i'm not a spammer, so i'm a little confused. 

You're right,  I was reading too fast.  Comprehension was not keeping up.

Going to start tagging farmed accounts if it's ridiculously obvious that's what's going on.   This shit drives me ape nuts.

Now now, your not reading correctly!
I was suggesting Danny was the ideal man to make a NEW Farmer list! (that you would not be on, i presume)
Look at that thread which we replied in "Re: Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16089913
At least 8 farmed accounts all pretending to be different people. And swaying argument with their numbers!
(got a few more names there which i will look into! no not you or gentlemand!)


A new list that does not care about sig campaigners, it only cares about farmed accounts. (they may or may not have a sig)


This farmer is nicking a lot of the sig money, meaning real people can't earn sig money?
The farmer also sells and scams. He is being allowed to feed here. With Theymos's blessing.
I hope you understand my view better now.

A slightly different list again here. Alphabet list turns random list.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/paritor-666857  Paritor (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qartada-666865  Qartada (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rudsild-666870  Rudsild (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/siatald-666874  Siatald (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/visdome-666894  Visdome (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/waticta-666897  Waticta (20)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xiadas-666902  Xiadas (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yatsida-666918  Yatsida (19)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zistmine-666933  Zistmine (21)

Then, after 3 moe inactive/padding members joined, Northpixel from bbc. spammer list and a few others.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/northpixel-666937  NorthPixel (72)***
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nanopipe-666959  NanoPipe (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/landowner-666967  LandOwner (21)

So the farmer dropped this alphabet list at "Z" and carried on randomly. So he can be a bit random?
Maybe these are unrelated? Back to basics. Lets check the farmers post schedule here, see if the two "bits" tally.

Waticta         Nov 26    Dec 6,17,29    Jan 10,23     Feb 5,18     Mar 2,26      Apr 8,17          May 1,14,28
Xiadas           Nov 26    Dec 7,18,30    Jan 11,25    Feb 6,19     Mar 1,17      Apr 8,16,30      May 13,27
Yatsida          Nov 26    Dec 8,31         Jan 25         Feb 6,19     Mar 1,17      Apr 8,16,30     May 13,27
Zistmine        Nov 26    Dec 5,16,27    Jan 9,22       Feb 4,17     Mar 2,26     Apr 8,17,         May 1,14,28
NorthPixel      Nov 26    Dec 6,17,29    Jan 10,23     Feb 5,18     Mar 10,27   Apr 4,24,30      May 11,26
NanoPipe       Nov 26    Dec 7,18,30    Jan 9,22       Feb 4,17     Mar 2,26     Apr 8,17           May 1,14,28
LandOwner    Nov 26    Dec 8,19,31    Jan 10,23      Feb 5,18     Mar 1,17    Apr 8,16,30       May 13,27

Conclusive. (i've seen this elsewhere also)
Time scale 1 hour 5 minutes. 290 spam posts.

Hey Twitchy, any time that fills the gaps between my posts! I've only seen a couple hours per day - the duration of each post.
There could be a lot in-between, or not. May as well fill gaps first. So anything 660000 - 670000.

Just found a new list.
This is the first list I have found with no bbc. spammer list starting point.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anemed-665297  Anemed (41)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/blerand-665301  Blerand (20)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/casdinyard-665309  Casdinyard (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/doamader-665315  Doamader (1171)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/emitdama-665321  Emitdama (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fesatmas-665325  Fesatmas (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gasturcas-665342  Gasturcas (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hutalar-665356  Hutalar (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jastetad-665361  Jastetad (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kalamsid-665367  Kalamsid (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lumada-665374  Lumada (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/murtiya-665383  Murtiya (26)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/narosya-665385  Narosya (271)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pirator-665388  Pirator (23)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qatuca-665407  Qatuca (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/raswild-665411  Raswild (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tatalk-665420  Tatalk (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/viscore-665427  Viscore (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wandika-665433  Wandika (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xanidas-665437  Xanidas (775)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yaunfitda-665441  Yaunfitda (23)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ziscadas-665445  Ziscadas (20)

Time scale 1.5 hours. 2550 spam posts.

I think I figured out a pretty efficient way to do this with import.io

I programmed an "extractor" to get username, post count, registered date and last active.

Should have 8,000 users with the last one u=264049 in another 10-15 minutes.  (Takes about 4 min per 1,000 )

I just randomly picked that range of users, let me know of any requests.


Edit:

All done, here you go:

u=252562 - u=264049


Little faster this way I think

I have a problem with Danny Hamilton's list, because I'm on it (lol).  I think it's too inclusive because it doesn't discriminate other than to exclude people with signatures, and not all people with sigs are spammers.  A ton of Yobit posters are spammers, and at one point I was adding them to my ignore list in bulk, but not all of them are worthy of an ignore.

I guess you could use the list and un-ignore users as needed, but that would be a pain in the ass methinks.

A lot in my lists are only quietly ranking up. No sig. Not even on Danny's list.
Then they are ripe for sale, or holding for sig spamming farms.

This is playing the long game. These are 10 month old accounts.
There must be other farmed accounts before, and certainly since?
I can't find them. That for me is like looking for the next block. impossible. But theymos could look. And must have already looked.
(I don't have Theymos's tools at my disposal  )

I hope SMAS will start looking at this. (he says doubtfully)
These accounts are stealing real peoples opportunities of enrolling in sig campaigns, and destroying real discussion in the process.
Maybe the campaign managers like it like this for some reason?  (stop it rizz...)

I find it hard to believe Theymos and the mods and the sig managers would let the farmer waltz in and take all the bitcoin unchallenged!

Excel could probably handle it but it would take me a long time to key the values in 

I'll start by collating the data from this thread and any updates to it, and take it from there.


Cool, I enjoy playing with Excel  . I should be able to make a good hole in it on Wednesday.

At BTC.0004 per post they are making BTC1 for every 2500 posts.

You need a lot of input to identify these accounts. Input we are not easily, or at all, privvy to
Theymos could.

Them, not yourself. I respect your time expended. Now I think about the amount of time you might have devoted to it, have some extra boggle on top.

I got all the time in the world... wait, you mean the farmed accounts... not me?
lol, your mind is boggled!!!

How long would it take to do all 700k or however many there is user #s?

Or is that too big for excel?

Where on Earth do people find the time to post this avalanche of rubbish? Even if you're copy and pasting it still requires some sentience. My mind is boggled.