Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator - page 46.

hiroshidw

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Quote from: dbalz on July 25, 2018, 10:38:01 AM

Quote from: hiroshidw on July 25, 2018, 07:13:29 AM

Quote from: dbalz on July 22, 2018, 08:47:38 PM

So, when it comes to Ethash, the Acorn will increase Nvidia's UP TO 10%, and AMD's UP TO 15%. And you need minimum 1 acorn per 4 GPU's, so best case scenario is you're getting about $0.45 per day boost. the Cle-101 is $200, so it'll take over 400 days for ROI.
Am I missing something?
I know it may save some energy, but most people run at 75% TDP anyway.

Well, I personally dont care if acorn will gave me 15% hashrate increase, but energy cost are my big problem, so if acorn really reduce energy cost at 60% this is really good deal for me, if I got 15% hashrate increases better, if not I dont care about.

But are you really running your cards at 100% TDP to reap the benefits of the 60-75% power draw? You can get that through afterburner for free. I have my rigs running at 80% TDP. Some people go all the way down to 65% TDP through afterburner.

I'm runnig my rigs at 75% TDP, but energy cost in Brazil are not cheap my friend.
So your card can run at 40% tdp and still make 30 mh/s on eth? no hashless? if your cards can do this, please tell me your cards model.

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philipma1957
No there weren't confirmation letters from them. And ofc I've checked spam folder etc.
So I'm lil bit frustrated here, there's a transaction confirmation from "Coin Payments" as shown on the pic. And no other contact info apart that email that wont reply back. No idea what to do atm.

upd: well there might be some site performance issues but I didnt get any reply\explanation from them anyway.

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Quote from: jimsta on July 25, 2018, 01:42:50 PM

Quote from: Thevaibhvav.arora on July 25, 2018, 12:35:10 PM

Late to this party.. but still trying to make up my mind.. the ETH performance increase expected is about 15%

I have 13 GPU(470/480 based) rigs.. so will need the X4 and 4 of the CLE 101.. that would give me ~56MH bump and expected price is about $900.. have not really read about the power consumption.. am i missing something here ?

Edit : IS this true Huh

"so if acorn really reduce energy cost at 60% this is really good deal for me"

because if it is.. this makes perfect sense !!

I'm actually not sure about that, many of us are undervolting already, so i'm curious if that up to 60% is on top of undervolting that many are doing or is it assuming at stock voltages? If it really is up to 60%, that is totally worth it, as I'm paying 22 cents /kwh. a 50% increase would be substantial.

Yeah.. anyone in FL who has ordered on of these?
22 cents is crazy ! what are you mining to make it worth it ??

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Quote from: Thevaibhvav.arora on July 25, 2018, 12:35:10 PM

Late to this party.. but still trying to make up my mind.. the ETH performance increase expected is about 15%

I have 13 GPU(470/480 based) rigs.. so will need the X4 and 4 of the CLE 101.. that would give me ~56MH bump and expected price is about $900.. have not really read about the power consumption.. am i missing something here ?

Edit : IS this true Huh

"so if acorn really reduce energy cost at 60% this is really good deal for me"

because if it is.. this makes perfect sense !!

I'm actually not sure about that, many of us are undervolting already, so i'm curious if that up to 60% is on top of undervolting that many are doing or is it assuming at stock voltages? If it really is up to 60%, that is totally worth it, as I'm paying 22 cents /kwh. a 50% decrease would be substantial.

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Late to this party.. but still trying to make up my mind.. the ETH performance increase expected is about 15%

I have 13 GPU(470/480 based) rigs.. so will need the X4 and 4 of the CLE 101.. that would give me ~56MH bump and expected price is about $900.. have not really read about the power consumption.. am i missing something here ?

Edit : IS this true Huh

"so if acorn really reduce energy cost at 60% this is really good deal for me"

because if it is.. this makes perfect sense !!

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: supurban_pirate on July 25, 2018, 10:49:22 AM

I've made an order through the form on https://store.mineority.io/ for a few of ACORN CLE mining hardware accelerators on 19th July, 2018.
Payed with ETH. Payment Status was marked as Complete, got a confirmation email.
And since then I haven't recieved any info message or feedback from the seller on my order, if it's being processed or not. I tried to contact them through email on their website, and all I had back is auto message saying that my "request N316 has been recieved and is being reviewed by their team". So it's been 6 days since, and no reply.
If anyone had same issues with them and knows if there's any other way to contact those guys plz let me know, that would help a lot.
Thx.

So you have no confirmation email from mineority.io?

Mineority

Miner PHILIP A,,,,,,:
Thank you for your order! Your Reference Number is: 25 ― July 13, 2018
Below is a summary of order. You can check the status of your order and all the details by visiting our website and logging into your account.
Please keep this as a record of your order!
Click Here to View Your Order
Fedex Ground Home Delivery
thnx

Billing Address Shipping Address
PHILIP A,,,,,,       PHILIP A,,,,,,
1 D,,,,, V,,,,, RD    1 D,,,,, V,,,,, RD
H,,,,,, NJ 07...       H....., NJ 07...
United States       United States
(732) 367        (732) 367

Product   Qty   Price   Ext Price
Acorn CLE - 215/215+
Acorn CLE - 215/215+
4539994
Acorn CLE-215+ (+$30.00)
1   $329.99   $329.99

        Subtotal   $329.99
        Tax   $0.00
        Shipping   $14.75
        VAT @0%   $0.00
        Order Total   $344.74

Please double check your order when you receive it and let us know immediately if there are any concerns or issues. We always value your business and hope you enjoy your product.

Thank you very much!

My mineority order was paid with coin payments i got the follow up from mineority

supurban_pirate

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I've made an order through the form on https://store.mineority.io/ for a few of ACORN CLE mining hardware accelerators on 19th July, 2018.
Payed with ETH. Payment Status was marked as Complete, got a confirmation email.
And since then I haven't recieved any info message or feedback from the seller on my order, if it's being processed or not. I tried to contact them through email on their website, and all I had back is auto message saying that my "request N316 has been recieved and is being reviewed by their team". So it's been 6 days since, and no reply.
If anyone had same issues with them and knows if there's any other way to contact those guys plz let me know, that would help a lot.
Thx.

https://i.imgur.com/NYpWFDT.jpg

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Quote from: Ramon1 on July 25, 2018, 07:48:39 AM

They aren't, every official table has but a handful of numbers filled in, only Lyra2Rev2 and X16r have a decent amount of info on them but nothing is concrete, that is the entire point.

One thing they are consistent about is suggesting that in most cases the best configuration is one acorn per gpu. Interpretations can vary but you seem awfully keen in thinking yours is the only one

Last time I checked SQRL mentions standalone mining in some capacity using the CLE-215(+) acorns, why are you trying to decide what their products are intended for? Now that I think about it, did anywhere I mention I'm interested in solo fpga mining? No? Thought so. I merely said proper information on a shipping product is lacking in every aspect.

Thats because those are the 2 algo's you get the most bang for your bucks on, so they have prioritized them

In case you want 1:1 you buy a nest x4 2 m.2 to pcie x4 converters, and some pcie x4 risers, and you can have 2 gpu and 2 acorn on the nest x4, and again due to the dma engine all high bw traffic from gpu to acorns and back should he handled on the nest x4, its not that hard to imagine what kind of setups you can do, but i would most likely have bought 10 times more acorns if they could confirm that this is the case.

Im not trying to decide anything just stating facts, if you go dig arround here you will also see it mentioned that standalone mining is not that profitable on them, You can see by looking for example at the tables, that for now primary focus is on lyrarev2 and x16r.

Because thats where you get the most boost and therefor profit with this kind of setup.

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Quote from: Invento on July 20, 2018, 05:46:08 PM

Hey guys,

This thread is pretty large and has gone over lots of options, some of these leading toward confusion. So I went through every post on here, and every article, along with Squirrels Research Labs website and made an article that I hope clears some unknowns up. If you could take a look and see if I missed anything that would be great.

https://www.freelearner.how/2018/07/15/the-acorn-fpga-gpu-accelerator-the-ultimate-guide-to-enhanced-gpu-mining/

Hope all is well.

Sincerely,

Abe

Great. Thank you.

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Quote from: hiroshidw on July 25, 2018, 07:13:29 AM

Quote from: dbalz on July 22, 2018, 08:47:38 PM

So, when it comes to Ethash, the Acorn will increase Nvidia's UP TO 10%, and AMD's UP TO 15%. And you need minimum 1 acorn per 4 GPU's, so best case scenario is you're getting about $0.45 per day boost. the Cle-101 is $200, so it'll take over 400 days for ROI.
Am I missing something?
I know it may save some energy, but most people run at 75% TDP anyway.

Well, I personally dont care if acorn will gave me 15% hashrate increase, but energy cost are my big problem, so if acorn really reduce energy cost at 60% this is really good deal for me, if I got 15% hashrate increases better, if not I dont care about.

But are you really running your cards at 100% TDP to reap the benefits of the 60-75% power draw? You can get that through afterburner for free. I have my rigs running at 80% TDP. Some people go all the way down to 65% TDP through afterburner.

Luisjc69

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Anyone had test this Cle215+ or some other?

I cant found any movies about this.....so i cant believe it!!

Thx for help

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

I purchased a total of two 215+ and 1 x2g nest at about 780-790 usd.

I partially did spend that because of ohgoditisagirl and the eth hardener pill. I have 8 1080ti's doing 50 each vs 33 each a gain of 136 mh and 0 watts

if I had purchased 4 more 1080ti's and each did 33 with no pill that would be 132mh and 800 more watts.

So her free software is worth more then 4 x 700 = 2800 not counting I save 10 kwatt a day in power

So it is only morally correct for me to spend some of the savings on her store ie one 215+

and some on her "friend" ie squirrelsresearch store.

But I spent 790 not 2800 or 1400 mostly because of the way the thread was run.

The store sales were done weird and I have yet to see one working in the field.

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Quote from: dsmn on July 25, 2018, 06:25:18 AM

I dont get that did 2 orders with no problems.

Good for you, I see other people with problems ordering. That it worked for you in no way means their checkout system is viable for everyone.

Quote from: dsmn on July 25, 2018, 06:25:18 AM

They are straight forward and clear with the performance numbers, but you might have a hard time wrapping your head arround their numbers.

They aren't, every official table has but a handful of numbers filled in, only Lyra2Rev2 and X16r have a decent amount of info on them but nothing is concrete, that is the entire point.

Quote from: dsmn on July 25, 2018, 06:25:18 AM

What i think is really shitty is that they have next to no information on the nest cards..
They have an onboard dma engine, so in theory you should be able to boost 4 gpu's using 2 acorns on a nest x2g card, IN A x1 motherboard slot. But noone want to confirm or deny.

One thing they are consistent about is suggesting that in most cases the best configuration is one acorn per gpu. Interpretations can vary but you seem awfully keen in thinking yours is the only one

Quote from: dsmn on July 25, 2018, 06:25:18 AM

For solo fpga mining youre the wrong place go buy a bcu1525, acorns are generaly to small to fit solo mining without to manny dirty tricks.

Last time I checked SQRL mentions standalone mining in some capacity using the CLE-215(+) acorns, why are you trying to decide what their products are intended for? Now that I think about it, did anywhere I mention I'm interested in solo fpga mining? No? Thought so. I merely said proper information on a shipping product is lacking in every aspect.

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Quote from: dbalz on July 22, 2018, 08:47:38 PM

So, when it comes to Ethash, the Acorn will increase Nvidia's UP TO 10%, and AMD's UP TO 15%. And you need minimum 1 acorn per 4 GPU's, so best case scenario is you're getting about $0.45 per day boost. the Cle-101 is $200, so it'll take over 400 days for ROI.
Am I missing something?
I know it may save some energy, but most people run at 75% TDP anyway.

Well, I personally dont care if acorn will gave me 15% hashrate increase, but energy cost are my big problem, so if acorn really reduce energy cost at 60% this is really good deal for me, if I got 15% hashrate increases better, if not I dont care about.

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Quote from: Ramon1 on July 25, 2018, 05:49:53 AM

Most of the suggested ideal configurations are 1:1, that adds a hefty cost overhead to a GPU.

There are too many unknowns in the air right now, I'm not saying this is an scam, at all, but SQRL is not being that straightforward or clear with the performance numbers for a product that is supposed to be shipping right now. Standalone mining is another big question mark, if viable at all.

Given how messy the ordering process is at this point, a wait and see attitude is best.

I dont get that did 2 orders with no problems.
They are straight forward and clear with the performance numbers, but you might have a hard time wrapping your head arround their numbers.

What i think is really shitty is that they have next to no information on the nest cards..
They have an onboard dma engine, so in theory you should be able to boost 4 gpu's using 2 acorns on a nest x2g card, IN A x1 motherboard slot. But noone want to confirm or deny.

For solo fpga mining youre the wrong place go buy a bcu1525, acorns are generaly to small to fit solo mining without to manny dirty tricks.

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Quote from: dbalz on July 22, 2018, 08:47:38 PM

So, when it comes to Ethash, the Acorn will increase Nvidia's UP TO 10%, and AMD's UP TO 15%. And you need minimum 1 acorn per 4 GPU's, so best case scenario is you're getting about $0.45 per day boost. the Cle-101 is $200, so it'll take over 400 days for ROI.
Am I missing something?
I know it may save some energy, but most people run at 75% TDP anyway.

Agreed.

Most of the suggested ideal configurations are 1:1, that adds a hefty cost overhead to a GPU.

There are too many unknowns in the air right now, I'm not saying this is an scam, at all, but SQRL is not being that straightforward or clear with the performance numbers for a product that is supposed to be shipping right now. Standalone mining is another big question mark, if viable at all.

Given how messy the ordering process is at this point, a wait and see attitude is best.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 23, 2018, 08:07:21 AM

Quote from: Elder III on July 22, 2018, 10:56:18 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 22, 2018, 10:32:36 PM

Quote from: CryptoSperm on July 22, 2018, 10:28:55 PM

Mineority exit scammed?

What is this you are talking about?

They're just flapping their gums to hear some noise in the room. I haven't seen any signs of such a thing and I followed them pretty closely for the past month.

yeah I figured this.

Although some actions by squirrels show an attempt to protect its parent company.

in theroy airsquirrels is legit and the parent company

squirrel research is the subset.

Well squirrel research no longer takes coins only bank orders

to use coin you have to go to mineority to order which is not a subset of airsquirrels so suing airsquirrels on an order from mineority is harder.

also the payment company for coins coin payments acts like a coin mixer (many do this) so you can't tell from the btc addy if 1 or 2 or 100,000 units were ordered.

My family has a lot of IRS trainign and accounting background.

My wife was a 33 year employee a revenue agent now retired.
My mom was a 26 year employee an auditor now retired .
I worked in collections for them back in the 80's when I got out of the USN I then went back to school and got a degree in accounting.

So I can see concern and fear on this gear. For more then 1 reason.
I grabbed 2x 215+ and 1x nest x2g total 785 usd.
I can live with that.

But I can see the rumors happening.

philipma -- I incorporated as an s-corp to better track/manage crypto mining/ops/trading... could you pm me or could I pm me some tips on accounting/tax stuff? or even some links to good info? I'm pretty small time so far, have been filing quarterly stuff that is required. I use bitcoin.tax for year-end stuff. I like the s-corp pass-through model of income and it's not too much more complicated since I'm the only employee/shareholder/ceo/secretary/etc

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questions:

1) If I connect 2 of the nest X2G (with 4 total 215+) could I have 8 GPU's running through 2 x16 PCI-e interfaces?

2) If I decided that I didn't want to mine an FPGA algorithm, could I still mine other algorithms with the 8 GPUs through the same 2 x16 PCI-e interfaces without physical reconfiguration?

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Quote from: dsmn on July 24, 2018, 05:34:00 AM

Quote from: SalvajeX on July 23, 2018, 12:03:11 PM

Hi folks,
May you advise if it’s woth getting one of those and if yes, which one?
I have a asrock h110 btc pro+ with 6 Vega’s

Thanks

Youre verry limited when it comes to pcie speed on h110, but a nest x2g solution would work.
Ie put 2 acorns and 4 vega's on a nest x2g.
If you want full boost of vegas, then something like nest x4 should work, 2 acorns and 2x m.2 to pcie x4 adapters and then have the vegas there running x4.

But with such a setup you need to trust that the nest boards dma engine works as they say, and eliminate the need for high throughput data comming to the motherboard.
It might be better to wait and see when the first batch is shipped and the reports gets in.

I got 2 215+ and 1 nest x2g I will get it with multiple setups to see what I get out of it.

my cost was about 790 usd for that.

ordering a 215+ and then getting the second 215+ with the nest x2g is a safe play

worst case it is a 345 loss which is not terrible.

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Quote from: SalvajeX on July 23, 2018, 12:03:11 PM

Hi folks,
May you advise if it’s woth getting one of those and if yes, which one?
I have a asrock h110 btc pro+ with 6 Vega’s

Thanks

Youre verry limited when it comes to pcie speed on h110, but a nest x2g solution would work.
Ie put 2 acorns and 4 vega's on a nest x2g.
If you want full boost of vegas, then something like nest x4 should work, 2 acorns and 2x m.2 to pcie x4 adapters and then have the vegas there running x4.

But with such a setup you need to trust that the nest boards dma engine works as they say, and eliminate the need for high throughput data comming to the motherboard.
It might be better to wait and see when the first batch is shipped and the reports gets in.

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