Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 161. (Read 629902 times)

Still no answer from the customer support at this day..

Good point i didn't think about before. If its legally risky to trade shares then ken would have to stop trading shares completely. It wouldn't make a difference at all if he allows all shares to trade now. In this light it looks like he wants to save work or something. Maybe he fears a price crash though now would be the ideal time to allow trading since the mood is generally positive and the price tags are rising on trading shares. So the fear of a price crash isn't a valid reason too.

Ken, please finally honor your months old promises. It makes no sense to claim we cant trade when we already trade.

if cc is kosher as far as sec goes then I have no problem.
i can sign from the address you should have from bf
oi vey!

I think there's a middle option where the legal stuff got heavy after the trading was enabled for the few shares, that would make it a potential "contempt of court" type thing to put the rest up.

From Ken's last update, I get the impression that he's ready and raring to go, but waiting for the legal air to clear.... and he's mentioning colored coins as beyond this level of bullshit, since no kind of exchange like enterprise that SEC could interfere with is necessary for their trading.

If that's the case then keen shouldn't tell us that he would get the shares up last week.

And it wouldn't make much sense to have some shares trading if he wasn't sure if he is legally allowed to.

At the very least he should let us verify or shares so he can be ready to pay dividends and make sure it's all in order.

And also Ken keeps saying himself that shares will be available next week, two weeks, etc. He shouldn't be making promises he can't keep.

This argument would have more weight if shares weren't already trading right now. The problem is that some shareholders can trade while others are prevented.

I want my shares trading as much as the next guy, but a lot of you do not understand the legal ramifications of this shit. If the MSD is still actively investigating ActiveMining, Ken is protecting himself, the company, and us from a lot of trouble by leaving it as-is and letting the lawyers figure it out. This is a brand new industry in a legal gray area, you can't treat it like a blue chip investment, and that's precisely the argument his lawyers are likely making right now.

You all need to wake up to reality and be patient. It's very clearly not a scam. Inconvenient and beyond schedule to the point of almost incompetence, sure, but just chill the fuck out. It will happen when it happens.

When is the 100TH going to go online? When can you double that to 200TH? When are we going to put the Gold Rush mining cards online?

You need to close out CT and CS and put our shares on Havelock so we can all trade shares. You need to pay out dividends as soon as possible. Make this your priority.

Kens hashrate. We have nothing. So why so happy?

This only makes one sense:

The scammer and his family is living good with our dividends and are paying time by time the open refunds.

Why should he ever give us our shares back?

how can you know which smiley face to put after that statement without knowing how much the hashrate cost?

When can we trade our shares?
How about the 28nm chip ,will we do this again?

Hashrate going up, that's great! 

These updates are extremely inefficient and I believe both share holders and Ken could have some stress/annoyance/dismay reduced if we all work together to enhance them. Updates should be standardized, there should be a form for updating which covers all points of interest and has consistency in format and factual consistency¹. Can we put our heads together and create this?

Topics I can think of, I'm too tired to think of any more right now, are:

-Datacenter
-VMC's own chip
-Shares
-MSD
-Customer Refunds
-Financials
-Website Upkeep
-Upcoming Products
-Inventory

Also, Ken...when you update you should not make false promises, its absolutely unnecessary. Some obvious examples are shares and refunds. If a topic has no update just state that there is nothing to update or that there is a delay in progress and provide an updated timeline giving reasons, example: "This topic is not a priority at the moment, therefore there is no update." or "We have run into unforeseen complications, the electric company is throttling our power and we cannot support more mining equipment right now.". This would be much more professional, paint a better picture of the company (marketing/appearance shouldn't be taken lightly), and make the mood a little more civil in this thread. Figured I would throw around these ideas for thought.


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uhmm... just like the shares situation, where he said last week he is going to get us trading and now this week all of a sudden, he is going to think about what actions he is going to take in next few weeks    

Regarding the legality of trading shares the options are either:

1) it's not legal to trade on these exchange. In which case you should've stopped all trading long ago

2) it is legal to trade in these exchange. In which case you should've put our shares up long ago

3) youre unsure of the legality of trading in these exchanges. In which case if you were playing it safe you should have stopped all trading long ago. Or you prefer to make your share holders happy in which case all shares should have been put up long ago

There no situation where it makes sense to trade some shares but not others.

I honestly don't believe you are able to confirm or holdings either because you're missing data or you're just outright incompetent. If you can confirm our holdings put up this validation website and let us validate our holdings, just to make sure you can.

How much did you pay hashfast? how much money has gone into the data center?

It seems nobody noticed this one....

Note: past tense, emphasis mine

Note: present or future tense, emphasis mine

Edit: I was expecting to hear that the finances are complicated and that the accountants are still working on it.  This update took me by surprise, though I'm not sure why at this point.

that is his habit, I'm not suprised , just look at ken's post history you can clearly see a pattern where he picks which questions he wants to answer and which ones he wants to clearly avoid. I'm sick of him with his way of communication