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Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 163. (Read 629902 times)

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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?

Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform.

Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government.

So the choice is between the possibility of getting goxed vs. the possibility of getting goved? Wonderful.

Welcome to Bitcoin!!  Grin
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Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government.

Can you explain?
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?

Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform.

Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government.

So the choice is between the possibility of getting goxed vs. the possibility of getting goved? Wonderful.
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?

Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform.

Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government.
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?

Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform.
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ActM now mining $51,000/month

It would be nice to know how much of that is a profit.
Could be a lot, could be nothing ... only Ken knows.

Which raises that question:

Ken, when can we expect the financial report to be released?
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
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Hasn't Ken stated that he doesn't want to use Havelock because he thinks it will eventually be shut down (and not want to repeat the btct & bitfunder experiences again)?
Why would the vote change that?
Because that was before Cryptostocks... Which might also be shut down.  If it's a choice between waiting for Colored Coins or going with Cryptostocks or Havelock, Havelock wins.
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Hasn't Ken stated that he doesn't want to use Havelock because he thinks it will eventually be shut down (and not want to repeat the btct & bitfunder experiences again)?
Why would the vote change that?
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Would anyone like to bet on Ken saying he will have the shares trading this week and nothing happening?

KEN LET US TRADE OUR SHARES PLEASE!
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ActM now mining $51,000/month

It would be nice to know how much of that is a profit.
Could be a lot, could be nothing ... only Ken knows.
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ActM now mining $51,000/month
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Thing is, the more Ken says on here the more open he leaves himself to attack and to various interpretation. If he really is in a situation in which state authorities are looking into him for share trading, you must realize he is going to have to do this delicately. Every time he posts it isn't enough, or it's the "same old thing." I would rather Ken post less often, but with actual improvements/ideas instead of goals and intentions.

The people would like facts as to the questions they pose, but Ken has to tread lightly, and I feel that's the course he is taking.

Magz: if you had an actual case, getting other people rallied up about it only takes away from the money you would potentially get, unless you feel you have an underhanded argument and need the attestations of others to reinforce it. Shit or get off the pot, but we don't want to hear about it here. Do you have a lawyer? Have they been in contact with Ken's lawyers? Surely if there is an issue that customer service can't resolve your two attorneys should be able to work out an amicable agreement without disparaging Ken or the company.
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I'd like to ask a few questions:

1. Will all of the accumulated dividends be paid out?
2. Why can't the shares just be placed on Havelock?
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Anyone else here glued to bitcoinwisdom right now?
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We'll hear from Ken tomorrow if not tonight. Don't worry I am pretty sure Ken knows that shares are the leading concern at the moment. Hopefully he'll elaborate if there is any issue so we can stay somewhat informed.

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Ad maiora!
Shareholders have indeed backed Havelock all the way.  This result should not be a surprise to anyone.  

I want to retract everything I said yesterday in regards to taking action against the company.  Yes, I was overly dramatic but felt it was all I had left to try and somehow get Ken to see sense.  I have been as patient as I know how and it suddenly all became too much, so I snapped.  I totally support ActiveMining and appreciate how hard Ken is working to make it successful.  He's done a fantastic job of late and it just depresses me to see that the shareholders are yet to take ownership of their investments.   I've been scammed by just about every startup in this space and ActiveMining needs to work out for me, otherwise I'm back to square one.


Please Ken, give us access to our shares as soon as you can and let the good work you are doing be reflected in the price. Smiley

I think anyone invested in this company has gone through the same emotional roller-coaster ride and flipped out from time to time. I know I have several times over. Its a direct result of the feelings of impotence caused by being denied access to our shares!  

presently ActM is doing great... BUT... how long did ASICMINER dominate the hashrate? a few months before they lost their position forever? Imagine if when ASICMINER was priced at 4btc a share that their shares were held by FC and not released for trading? his greatest cheerleaders would be flying to china to chase him down!

how long to get these shares online? not until we lose our position? past performance does not inspire confidence here.

what I am trying to stress here is "time is of the essence"

git those shares online anyway anyhow (Ive been saying this for almost a year!)
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Touching 40TH/s. At this rate we will soon be in the 'Top 10' on Eligius.
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Shareholders have indeed backed Havelock all the way.  This result should not be a surprise to anyone.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570888.new#new

I want to retract everything I said yesterday in regards to taking action against the company.  Yes, I was overly dramatic but felt it was all I had left to try and somehow get Ken to see sense.  I have been as patient as I know how and it suddenly all became too much, so I snapped.  I totally support ActiveMining and appreciate how hard Ken is working to make it successful.  He's done a fantastic job of late and it just depresses me to see that the shareholders are yet to take ownership of their investments.   I've been scammed by just about every startup in this space and ActiveMining needs to work out for me, otherwise I'm back to square one.


Please Ken, give us access to our shares as soon as you can and let the good work you are doing be reflected in the price. Smiley

Edit - I lied when I said that eight people had contacted me via pm.  No-one did.  I sincerely apologise.
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I Havelock makes the verification then take the offer. Only make sure that you know who owns shares in case havelock gets killed.
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