[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 162.

byt411

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Quote from: MilkyWayMasta on April 16, 2014, 08:30:34 PM

Quote from: WildFire.ca on April 16, 2014, 08:24:07 PM

Your currently trading our shares on 2 different sites as we speak,,, Again tell me why we, the long-term investors (The people who have the most faith in you) do not have there shares. If you want to see how a CEO can drop a share price on his own shares keep restricting us from trading. People are loosing faith and your not helping. Who the fuck wants to buy shares in a company when you can not trust what the CEO says. You found the miners for us to sell, You started filling up the DC, and then if you re-issued our shares almost every thing would be a white wash.. But now your fucking around. Your literally, personally causing the share price to drop do to lack of faith in the CEO. This is the second time your actions have literally dropped the share price. Your talking about us having to wait for an indefinite period to get access to what we own.

Seems like the price has been going up, not down.

Wrong. They are now at 0.000863BTC on Crypto-Trade and 0.001BTC on cryptostocks.
I bought 3 shares at 0.0033 on btct.co, like a year ago or something like that.
More than -300%.

MilkyWayMasta

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Quote from: WildFire.ca on April 16, 2014, 08:24:07 PM

Your currently trading our shares on 2 different sites as we speak,,, Again tell me why we, the long-term investors (The people who have the most faith in you) do not have there shares. If you want to see how a CEO can drop a share price on his own shares keep restricting us from trading. People are loosing faith and your not helping. Who the fuck wants to buy shares in a company when you can not trust what the CEO says. You found the miners for us to sell, You started filling up the DC, and then if you re-issued our shares almost every thing would be a white wash.. But now your fucking around. Your literally, personally causing the share price to drop do to lack of faith in the CEO. This is the second time your actions have literally dropped the share price. Your talking about us having to wait for an indefinite period to get access to what we own.

Seems like the price has been going up, not down.

WildFire.ca

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Your currently trading our shares on 2 different sites as we speak,,, Again tell me why we, the long-term investors (The people who have the most faith in you) do not have there shares. If you want to see how a CEO can drop a share price on his own shares keep restricting us from trading. People are loosing faith and your not helping. Who the fuck wants to buy shares in a company when you can not trust what the CEO says. You found the miners for us to sell, You started filling up the DC, and then if you re-issued our shares almost every thing would be a white wash.. But now your fucking around. Your literally, personally causing the share price to drop do to lack of faith in the CEO. This is the second time your actions have literally dropped the share price. Your talking about us having to wait for an indefinite period to get access to what we own.

Simon Templar

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So the reality is it will actually be months until shareholders get to trade their shares. That is what Ken is telling us. So each and every one of you can now kiss goodbye to turning your investment into bitcoin. I am so over this. Ken, you can have my shares I no longer care. Good bye.

drawingthesun

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Ken, what about our proprietary ASIC? How is that going?

mannybitcoins

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Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:54:44 PM

Quote from: drasted on April 16, 2014, 07:52:51 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:43:34 PM

Weekly Update 4/16/2014

MSD Investigation: I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks. I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment. I am working on solutions to this problem. Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

Can you address why you said it would be ready this week if you're lawyer hadn't said it was ok yet? If you can't do it yet, stop telling us you can do it.

At the very least you should let us confirm our holdings with you. Not necessarily put it on a exchange, just let us make sure it's ok. Then you'll also be setup to start paying dividends direct to addresses.

Can you tell us what's happening with our chips? Our we still working on our own? What's the progress with them?

What happened to the financial reports? You said you have someone else working on it. Are they still working on it? When do you expect them to be ready?

Yes, we are getting an accountant to working on our books, now that tax season is over.

Ken, you might as well not answer any questions at all if you're gonna keep picking and choosing which to address.

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i am for the long term ,cc is the best choice.

drasted

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Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:54:44 PM

Yes, we are getting an accountant to working on our books, now that tax season is over.

When are you expecting them to be ready? and can you adddress the rest of those questions?

kslaughter

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Quote from: drasted on April 16, 2014, 07:52:51 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:43:34 PM

Weekly Update 4/16/2014

MSD Investigation: I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks. I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment. I am working on solutions to this problem. Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

Can you address why you said it would be ready this week if you're lawyer hadn't said it was ok yet? If you can't do it yet, stop telling us you can do it.

At the very least you should let us confirm our holdings with you. Not necessarily put it on a exchange, just let us make sure it's ok. Then you'll also be setup to start paying dividends direct to addresses.

Can you tell us what's happening with our chips? Our we still working on our own? What's the progress with them?

What happened to the financial reports? You said you have someone else working on it. Are they still working on it? When do you expect them to be ready?

Yes, we are getting an accountant to working on our books, now that tax season is over.

drasted

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Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:43:34 PM

Weekly Update 4/16/2014

MSD Investigation: I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks. I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment. I am working on solutions to this problem. Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

Can you address why you said it would be ready this week if you're lawyer hadn't said it was ok yet? If you can't do it yet, stop telling us you can do it. If there's some uncertainty about the law that's not allowing you to trade shares on these websites then why are you allowing the shares that are already on there to trade?

At the very least you should let us confirm our holdings with you. Not necessarily put it on a exchange, just let us make sure it's ok. Then you'll also be setup to start paying dividends direct to addresses.

Can you tell us what's happening with our chips? Our we still working on our own? What's the progress with them?

What happened to the financial reports? You said you have someone else working on it. Are they still working on it? When do you expect them to be ready?

WildFire.ca

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Ken the update about the Data-center is great news. I am very happy to see that your able to act dynamically to a constantly changing market. The update about our shares is absolute bullshit. You are not committing any new crimes by re-issuing shares you have already issued. IF your stupid lawyer has not heard about double jeopardy then you need a new one. If there has been a crime committed it has already happened. Re-issuing what you have already issued will not trigger any more charges.. This is absolute BS. PUT OUR FUCKING SHARES ON HAVELOCK. You are now creating a whole new class of pissed of shareholders who do not hold there shares. How the fuck do you expect anyone to buy shareholders shares when it's been shown over and over again that you do not do what you say.. If we have move to a new site not one person is going to trust you and for good reason.. Get our shares trading now!!

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Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:43:34 PM

Weekly Update 4/16/2014

Datacenter is up to ~42 TH/s and we have added a 150 Kva transformer for more power. We have ordered more equipment and racks and our next expansion will be 5 more racks at ~12.5 TH/s each bringing our total to ~100 TH/s.

VMC: We now have in stock our Gold Rush mining card which is a ~750 GH/s card, these will be available on our website soon.

MSD Investigation: I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks. I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment. I am working on solutions to this problem. Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

You've had enough time to think of an IMMEDIATE solution to trading Ken, GET THESE SHARES UP!

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Quote from: kslaughter on April 16, 2014, 07:43:34 PM

Weekly Update 4/16/2014

Datacenter is up to ~42 TH/s and we have added a 150 Kva transformer for more power. We have ordered more equipment and racks and our next expansion will be 5 more racks at ~12.5 TH/s each bringing our total to ~100 TH/s.

VMC: We now have in stock our Gold Rush mining card which is a ~750 GH/s card, these will be available on our website soon.

MSD Investigation: I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks. I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment. I am working on solutions to this problem. Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

Any update on Financial Report?

kslaughter

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Weekly Update 4/16/2014

Datacenter is up to ~42 TH/s and we have added a 150 Kva transformer for more power. We have ordered more equipment and racks and our next expansion will be 5 more racks at ~12.5 TH/s each bringing our total to ~100 TH/s.

VMC: We now have in stock our Gold Rush mining card which is a ~750 GH/s card, these will be available on our website soon.

MSD Investigation: I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks. I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment. I am working on solutions to this problem. Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

mannybitcoins

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Quote from: knybe on April 16, 2014, 05:45:01 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 11, 2014, 08:42:23 PM

Quote from: drawingthesun on April 11, 2014, 08:39:13 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 11, 2014, 08:21:12 PM

Quote from: JoTheKhan on April 11, 2014, 07:57:37 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 11, 2014, 07:47:39 PM

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Quote from: MilkyWayMasta on April 11, 2014, 05:36:49 PM

Quote from: knybe on April 11, 2014, 05:04:58 PM

Ken when will shares go live?

Have you verified your shares yet?

What do you mean by "verified"? Does Ken not know who owns shares in his company? What about "Ukyo's shares", of which Ken clearly claimed to know the ownership when he dumped them on the exchange where those shares, among others, are still trading?

They have to be verified and matched to the users CT account.

I know the horse has been beaten to death. But have you put much thought into Havelock? It's been around longer than CT and AMC wouldn't be one of the only companies on the exchange.

I have thought about Havelock. I feel that that same thing that happen to bitfunder is going to happen to Havelock.

Edit: I think either on of these is just a stop gap until CC are ready.

Even if Havelock is a stop gap, could we use them for now?

Also counterparty seems to be more refined than CC, remember the lead dev of CC wants out.

I will be reviewing all systems that are available when they are more mature.

will this be addressed in today's update? ...here's to hoping.

It better be. I couldn't care less about hashrates until I can trade my shares.

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decentralize EVERYTHING...

Quote from: kslaughter on April 11, 2014, 08:42:23 PM

Quote from: drawingthesun on April 11, 2014, 08:39:13 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 11, 2014, 08:21:12 PM

Quote from: JoTheKhan on April 11, 2014, 07:57:37 PM

Quote from: kslaughter on April 11, 2014, 07:47:39 PM

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Quote from: MilkyWayMasta on April 11, 2014, 05:36:49 PM

Quote from: knybe on April 11, 2014, 05:04:58 PM

Ken when will shares go live?

Have you verified your shares yet?

What do you mean by "verified"? Does Ken not know who owns shares in his company? What about "Ukyo's shares", of which Ken clearly claimed to know the ownership when he dumped them on the exchange where those shares, among others, are still trading?

They have to be verified and matched to the users CT account.

I know the horse has been beaten to death. But have you put much thought into Havelock? It's been around longer than CT and AMC wouldn't be one of the only companies on the exchange.

I have thought about Havelock. I feel that that same thing that happen to bitfunder is going to happen to Havelock.

Edit: I think either on of these is just a stop gap until CC are ready.

Even if Havelock is a stop gap, could we use them for now?

Also counterparty seems to be more refined than CC, remember the lead dev of CC wants out.

I will be reviewing all systems that are available when they are more mature.

will this be addressed in today's update? ...here's to hoping.

Simon Templar

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Nothing less than an update detailing the actual date this week when we'll be able to trade our shares is acceptable.

If this information isn't released with today's update then there'll be quite a backlash. Ken, the time has come to give us back our shares. Please do so before this weekend. There is no stomach for any more excuses, broken promises or delaying tactics. Only action will suffice.

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Quote from: VinceSamios on April 15, 2014, 10:59:14 AM

All,

I've order a prospector - I'm yet to initiate the bank transfer but will do possibly today or tomorrow.

I will make sure to tell you all about how the process goes, how quickly the prospector arrives in the UK, setup, etc - I'm also going to do a video on the setup, and a review generally, so stay tuned.

But the first step, ordering the card, worked fine. I've seen complaints that the shopping card doesn't work but it definitely seemed to work absolutely fine for me.

Stay tuned.

Update:
I just sent the bank transfer through - no problems on my end (in the UK)

Hopefully more news soon.

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Ad maiora!

with the increasing hashrate I would expect shares in ActM to increase in value too.

with the increase in btc/usd value i will expect more big players to bring hashes online, quickly dwarfing ActM's position in the network hashrate.

with increased privately funded big players competing I expect ActM to be unable to add hashrate fast enough to keep up and therefore share value of ActM will plummet. (see ASICMINER's history)

with ken's progress getting shares tradeable online so far I expect to see my shares sit in limbo through great profits and then back to a loss, for good, with none of us able to take advantage of the potential profits coming.

I guess when btc reaches 100 mil usd (good luck) the 0.0001 total value of my 10 000 shares will look like "profit" using ken's logic. I severely disagree with this last statement.

we're working on it" and "sometime next week" are no longer acceptable, ken. put those shares wherever you can and let the cards fall where they may ffs. you've held my funds (in the form of shares) out of reach for FAR FAR too long. GET. IT. TOGETHER.

EDIT- how long until our owed div BTC goes "missing" through some falling exchange or hack or whatever? seriously ken. action, now PLEASE!

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Quote from: kleeck on April 16, 2014, 02:19:42 PM

Quote from: Ozymandias2 on April 16, 2014, 02:13:31 PM

Quote from: kleeck on April 16, 2014, 02:12:06 PM

Quote from: sparky999 on April 16, 2014, 11:59:40 AM

Quote from: drasted on April 16, 2014, 11:26:56 AM

Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?

Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform.

Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government.

So the choice is between the possibility of getting goxed vs. the possibility of getting goved? Wonderful.

Welcome to Bitcoin!! Grin

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