Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread - page 287. (Read 479317 times)

At this stage, mistakes and smart moves included, we are 99% done. So I say sell everything now that can be sold because in a week's time this will all be forgotten.

Highly derogatory. Stop playing games, you have been called out.

okay then, no name calling, I don't actually know what a "fake" is in this context. Just assumed it was a derogatory term 

Believe me, I am not denying this fact.  This is definitely a different world in this community, which is why I have stated a board of members or a PR individual or staff is required now.  I have been trying my best to fill that void, because we are all in this together, tied by our Bitcoin.

When I speak of the why they request, it is simply that, an understanding as to this 500k wall now going up.  I understand why it is going up, lolstate you understand why it is going up.  For one, Active Mining owns most of those AMC shares on Bitfunder.  All the numbers being tossed around are not exact because of the merger and the shut down on both exchanges of AMC.  The fact is, less than 10 million shares are issued, and until those 10 million shares are issued, they will be released.  Im not going to say whether now or later, in chunks or in bulk is the smartest idea, because I haven't thought it through yet.  But it remains, those shares are going to be issued, if you understand this fact, then you will see that it is smart to buy now rather than when share price is 0.0035+

Secondly, it was stated before that the expenses for the machines being built, which was documented and the links are on my first post of the overview thread, were needed.  The IPO is over, the NRE is complete, would you rather have Ken release those shares available to his shareholders (us) at a low rate of 0.0028 or 0.035+ (which is where I see this going)?

There is no name calling to be done. FUD lost. You lost. Move on to another stomping ground. 

For example this guy Ozymandias ^^^ strikes me as the real deal, a genuinely concerned citizen, if you will. Unlike STS et al.

and the name calling begins. Seen it all

One time, I saw a CEO get early investors on as "Directors", and then if the directors asked too many questions, he would proclaim to everyone on the email list that those directors were liar hackers and that any email from them would contain a virus. Also would "kick out" the director and keep their shares, or the value of them

And that is wonderful news that you are sharing less, but what I would like to know is the price points at which you are selling the shares. I don't know how much of a difference it makes to us investors, but I would like to know which asks on the exchanges are yours and which are undercutters. Did you put up the ~90k and ~120k walls on btct? Of the additional 500k that are going on btct, how many have still not been placed as "asks"?

As an aside, please do not take any of what I say is attacks; it's just that whenever I have any significant (to me) amount of btc invested in a venture I try to stay as aware of the market as I can. I very much want this venture to succeed!

EDIT: "sharing less" should be written as "issuing less shares", not sharing less information, bad typo on my part

A CEO doesn't have to explain himself every 10 minutes to complete strangers (and fakes) like Floates, STS, Eskimo etc.

The NRE is raised. The IPO is over. Some small expenses remain to be gathered. We can safely ignore people like Eskimo and try and identify genuine share holders with genuine concerns and take all steps necessary to reassure them. Floates, STS, Eskimo etc are trying to drive a wedge between a very successful start up (ActM) and its legitimate long term share holders.

I still can't get over that 'Caveat Emptor'.

Trying to clam things down here

how many of these 500,000 new shares have been bought up so far?  How are we supposed to know???

Hurray for ever changing barometers

I think what they are saying is that though it is transparent on what you are doing, it is still the 'what' and not the 'why' that is being communicated

I have been very transparent.  I have said that we are issuing 500,000 more shares.  These will be spread between bitfunder and BTC-TC.  This is less than we had posted at first after the price of bitcoin went down to around $68.  At that point we added 1M shares, 500,000 on bitfunder and 500,000 on BTC-TC for a total of 4M shares, however because of the flippers bitfunder shares were not selling, so the wall was taken down after a post here.  Now that bitcoin has gone up we can sell less total shares which we are doing.

Stop talking your book. Have you no shame?

+1

You have covered the NRE and clearly have enough funds, yet you plan to unload another 500,000 shares on the market for what reason? "Expenses" as in a rolex here, a ferrari there, and then a picasso for a friend?

Just a few days ago you said that you would be operating just fine even without the NRE being covered or any additional shares sold, now you are in dire need for more cash?

Active Mining is only issuing 10M shares, that is all we can issue without a vote.  Most of AMC shares are owned by Active Mining.

I bought a truckload of shares today because it seemed this venture had its act together and recovered from the missteps of the past.

Can it really be that after all of the previous trouble, we still don't know how many shares are going to be issued, at what price, and where? I won't even get into the "what's the $ for" question.

VE's calls for transparency are not unwarranted and entering into chest thumping contests with significant investors is a poor PR move that will hurt the entire company