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Anyhow guys, tonight is the night I get hammered.

Here's to Ken and a fantastic job!

 Grin Grin Grin

Ken should be thanking Streets and VBS


Here's to Streets and Vbs, too!

 Grin Grin Grin

Thanks guys!!!!  I know I want this to succeed just as much as you guys
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caveat emptor

That means 'seize the day'.

It means buyer beware in the modern lexicon, as well as in latin

Jesus, get out much?!
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First of all if any of you have sold the farm to invest in any of these BTC mining stocks, including the successful ones, then you've got bigger balls than me.
Yeah, I guess I'd be freaking out too but: "you shouldn't invest more than you can afford to lose..."

Sitting and watching the exchanges and scrutinizing and guessing every single move is creating FUD. FUD will break this.

If you can sit tight and let this thing play out, you just might be happy with the results.

otherwise... "the sky is falling."

Look...  I'm no FUD spreader and I'm no troll.  After my investment today, I'm officially a pissed off shareholder.

First we have a huge wall to satisfy NRE.  But Ken says with pre-orders we will hit NRE and he will then remove the wall.  Apparently the wires didn't come in as he had expected.  But then the wall is naturally eaten away by investor interest.  Very quickly, I might add.

So that's it, right?  We've gotten NRE taken care of let's do this.  But no.  Ken erects another wall.  Are we going to see any more walls?

It's pathetic.


And walls are at what price on what exchange?
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First of all if any of you have sold the farm to invest in any of these BTC mining stocks, including the successful ones, then you've got bigger balls than me.
Yeah, I guess I'd be freaking out too but: "you shouldn't invest more than you can afford to lose..."

Sitting and watching the exchanges and scrutinizing and guessing every single move is creating FUD. FUD will break this.

If you can sit tight and let this thing play out, you just might be happy with the results.

otherwise... "the sky is falling."

Look...  I'm no FUD spreader and I'm no troll.  After my investment today, I'm officially a pissed off shareholder.

First we have a huge wall to satisfy NRE.  But Ken says with pre-orders we will hit NRE and he will then remove the wall.  Apparently the wires didn't come in as he had expected.  But then the wall is naturally eaten away by investor interest.  Very quickly, I might add.

So that's it, right?  We've gotten NRE taken care of let's do this.  But no.  Ken erects another wall.  Are we going to see any more walls?

It's pathetic.
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how many more shares are going up and at what price and when?
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ffssixtynine, +1
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caveat emptor

That means 'seize the day'.

It means buyer beware in the modern lexicon, as well as in latin
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caveat emptor

That means 'seize the day'.

Nope.  it means "Buyer beware".  you are thinking of carpe diem.
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
First of all if any of you have sold the farm to invest in any of these BTC mining stocks, including the successful ones, then you've got bigger balls than me.
Yeah, I guess I'd be freaking out too but: "you shouldn't invest more than you can afford to lose..."

Sitting and watching the exchanges and scrutinizing and guessing every single move is creating FUD. FUD will break this.

If you can sit tight and let this thing play out, you just might be happy with the results.

otherwise... "the sky is falling."
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
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I just phoned him and told him that numbers are important, updated DAILY.. especially during a time like this.
He said he's going to start taking care of that better..

Too much money is involved to still be messing up like this and there's no evidence it'll change, only that he is trying his very best (and is probably overworked). The mistakes have to stop. You do not see this stuff from friedcat - that's all much more to the point and goes to a plan, and there is a board to keep an eye on things.

Most of all, he needs to accept he needs someone else to help. It sounds like he feels he can do it all himself and he clearly can't. Nor can most CEOs which is why we hire in or contract out.

Ken should concentrate on the engineering side and have someone else handle the financial/communication side. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can see this.

Questions:

How do you plan on avoiding mistakes such as we have seen, and to take the pressure off yourself?

How many more shares are to be issued, where, for what price, and when?

How are you planning on cashing out to pay suppliers and how do you plan to mitigate what may be a volatile exchange rate, where - if anything - BTC could go down significantly ($50) in the near term?

What happens if you can't cash out and the price has changed? What's the backup plan, and please don't say suddenly issue more shares!

What % of dividends will be held back for growth?

Can you confirm when proper bookkeeping will be available, done in a timely,  regular and fully detaled fashion?

I want this to succeed, but I'm not going to be afraid to ask questions that need to be asked.

Edit: obviously the core idea is good and ken has worked really hard to mitigate mistakes. However, making the kinds of ones that have been made, and in public, risks undoing that good work. Moreover, it genuinely raises operational concerns and they cannot be ignored. This isn't about having a go at Ken, this is about finding a proper way to avoid mistakes happening in future.
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Volcanic Erupter, are those your 120,000 shares at 0.002817 or is that the new wall?

Not mine.. I'm giving Ken one last chance to step up and be a little more professional

deduce it real quick.

all Ken can come in here and do is instill confidence with a few excuses, to rationalize these obvious red flags that make zero sense

over the last century "Confidence Man" has been shortened into a different word, don't let your cognitive dissonance get in the way. The reported pre-sale estimates should more than compensate for the new share wall.
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So why are you asking questions instead of buying?

quote for lolz.



just liquidated half my position on ActiveMining bitfunder
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Volcanic Erupter, are those your 120,000 shares at 0.002817 or is that the new wall?

Not mine.. I'm giving Ken one last chance to step up and be a little more professional
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eh.

caveat emptor due to the fact that there are more than 10,000,000 shares outstanding between the two AMC-PT, I don't fully understand what will happen to those shareholders after July 31st

caveat emptor due to the fact that additional walls are put up by the issuer at different share prices without warning

caveat emptor due to the fact that the additional walls are in bitcoins that are immediately liquidated into fiat at random exchange rates, which are pushed lower by the amount of bitcoins that must be sold for USD

caveat emptor due to the fact that the aforementioned caveats create an accounting blackhole

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decentralize EVERYTHING...
the gnashing of teeth, pulling of hair and general freaking out in here is manic... and mildly entertaining.
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I honestly hope that you guys are stating to understand why proper reporting is required

Oh God, no!

I guess you are in the wrong forum, shitbird.  Kiss
 
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Volcanic Erupter, are those your 120,000 shares at 0.002817 or is that the new wall?
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