Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 245. (Read 771288 times)

Another one afraid to tackle the facts? You just want to talk about 'Stuartuk'?


Edit - COME ON Trolls - a big list of facts for you. No-one wants to talk about them?

It's worth noting, if I'm not mistaken, that Ken bought these machines out of his own pocket.  

Yes the ones that have generated $500,000.  We didn't buy them, he did.  

I think some people blame Ken for the Avalon chips fiasco as well.  The one major development that should have happened but didn't which was totally out of Ken's control.

Using 'scam' at this stage is TOTALLY insane.  

1) It wasn't Ken who de-invited me to the dinner is was another investor. I have been personally invited by Ken to visit as have a few people.
2) I have his home address, I am aware of many of his family members, I know his business history, I have spoken to him on the phone, I have asked someone who works close to him to check him and the business out. Nothing atall scamy about Mr Slaughter.

i want whatever StuartUK is smoking

Not a SINGLE fact disputed. You can't tackle a single listed fact?


Is that because you just want to string people along with lies until you get your grubbly little hands on their shares?

Only amateurs are going to put up buy orders at this stage with this stocks background.

It would ignite the touch paper and cause a bidding war. They will wait till the shares are live and instant execute their orders. It might take a few mins or it might take a few hours but these Troll plus many other wide-ranging investors will be moping up everything below the previous market high (0.007) and higher absolutely no-doubt.

The big question for the Trolls is - will they get their orders in at a good price before the serious investors sweep up everything on the table?

You better be quick Trolls. The big boys are coming and your little 50BTC orders are not going to get you many shares with prices ranging above 0.004.

I didn't find my Public Wallet Address when I signed in a couple of days ago even though I was looking for it. Either I missed it or it's no longer available.  Just tried to sign in a moment ago and couldn't.  Let me know if you have any joy.

Simple question - who is 'Sam'? Some Italian guy? You don't know as he never revealed himself.

Who is Ken? Ken Slaughter, Springfield MO. We even have his home address.

Do you see a difference?

See the buy orders on Crypto-Trade for ActM.  He was pretty keen to get signed up as you say.  

Or it could be one of the early investors returning from having sold up a few NEO shares.

When we called Labcoin a scam. Did the investors believe us? No, not until Sam went and disappeared. So why do you think this will be any different. If you think AcTM is a scam and call it a scam over and over expecting people in this thread to believe you. You are by the definition of the word itself, insane. You are repeatedly doing something that you know won't meet results, but you keep doing it anyway. I don't think it is a scam. Until I am convinced by my own free will that it is a scam, nothing anyone can say from their speculation can change my mind. Will this probably backfire on me? It might. But I don't have my emotions tied up into this. I see evidence that this company is not a scam and I act accordingly. If you see evidence that this company is a scam, feel free to act accordingly. BUT repeating the same thing (this stupid fucking discussion) over and over every day without getting the results you want is by the definition itself insane.

I ask that we stop this discussion.

So you freely admit everything you say on here is conjecture - which is welcome. And I agree, everything you say is indeed conjecture - it is purely your view.

But why base your views on unknows when you have plenty of known facts to base your views on.
Now if you want some facts look at my post above - and read this:

Ken has paid out almost half as much in divs as he ever took at the IPO - fact
He hasn't asked for or taken any more, or other, money from investors since IPO - fact.
He has an exclusive deal with one of the most successful ASIC manufacturers in North America - fact.
He has taken 5Mill USD in orders in a few months - fact.
He has developed a 24TH/s miner with eASIC - fact
He has enough funds in USD to proceed as planned and is not requesting any funds from investors - fact
He is completely exposed, we know who he is, where he is and he is open to visits - fact
He has involved and exposed several of his family to this business - fact
He has taken a considered approach to the legislative side of the industry and employed legal experts in the field - fact.
He has made big decisions in a timely manner to safeguard our shares/investments and has gone to considerable lengths to ensure ACtM shares are to be legally tradeable again - fact

There are more that I can't think of right now. Others please chime in, you might remind yourselves why you got into ACtM in the first place.

thanks JoTheKhan, but realy dont have this on my profile settings.... very strange... anyone know how can i proceed?

This is quite clearly not a scam anyone who really thinks that is insane. A scammer does not pay out $500k+ in dividends.

My evidence is he's the CEO and so he is privy to every last detail that he would need to make an accurate and reasonable business forcast for the next 12months. Ken is a highly experienced engineer and businessman. He has created a business in a few months that has taken customer orders of atleast 5Mill USD. (Has anyone else on this thread done that? Any of the know-it-all Trollls perhaps?)
He has an exclusive relationship with one of the most successful and sought after ASIC chip manufacturers in the States and has therefore access to cost price chips of the very latest technology.

Now I'd ask you - why would he lie or exaggerate the sales prospects of ACtM? What would he gain? Extra sales? No. A heightened shares price? No. He is not selling or issuing any new shares. And he will never need to as he has made clear that the company is highly solvent with plenty of funds available to move forward as planned.

Ken does not want yours or any other investors money and he hasn't since IPO - many months ago.
He has also paid out half as much that he took in on the IPO in BTC.

Now please anything that is reasonable is open to discussion but saying Ken is a scamer or incompetent does not stand up in the face of these FACTS.

Can we have discussions based on the facts for a change? For once?

@FMAG Please read. The first picture in this quote shows where the Public Bitcoin Address is. You had to set this yourself.

can anoyone help me? i dont know what is, and how can i find, my bitfunder "Public Wallet Address"?

let's turn that question back on you - do you have a single piece of evidence that proves Ken's prediction of 40Mill in chips sales in year 1 is correct or accurate?

*disclaimer - i am an activemining shareholder

Now pankkake-

Anyone have any background on his finances?

We could give all the Trolls an estimated  investment fund of around 50BTC but would be good if we could have something a bit more researched.

Zumzero where did you get the 76BTC figure for crumbs investment fund?

I don't recognise any substance behind that vague statement - any facts?

Let's start here - do you have a single piece of evidence that proves Ken's prediction of 40Mill in chips sales in year 1 is incorrect or inaccurate?

OK as to crumbs loose change.

He put a lot into IceDrill and I think he had about 10k IceDrill shares left after he agreed to the miner exchange for shares debacle

That would have made him around 10BTC selling at 0.001 (only a 50% loss on that portion good work crumbs lol)

Now he also held neobee till recently as you can tell by his keen interest on their thread. I can't see him coming out of NB completely as they are a fair long-term hold so I would say he would have another 20 to 40BTC (he bought BTC below 100USD) taken out of neobee.

So the grand total is lets say 45BTC that he is going to put into ACtM.

90k shares at 0.0005
or
18k at 0.0025