Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 268. (Read 771288 times)
December 05, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
We should not underestimate the numbers of new bitcoiners and their appetites.
December 05, 2013, 08:06:49 PM
however the problem is there are no buyers.
You are talking about what will become one of the biggest ASIC BTC mining chip sellers in the world, one of the biggest home/pro miner sellers and one of the biggest mining farm operators. We are on the radar of serious investors - I can't imagine us not being.
Aside from that you have the Trolls on here who might want 2 or 300k between them - price dependant.
And what about the ex-Advisory Board members, didn't they sell a couple of mill shares between them? They will certainly want them back.
You won't get buyers filling up the order book it would create a frenzy and push prices higher. Instead they will jump in very quickly when the exchange opens.
The situation is unique, excellent news, frozen trading re-opening, demand from new big investors and previous holders. There will be a LOT of buying pressure.
December 05, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
Just ignore Lorenzo, he is doing the opposite of what he has implied earlier. He wants to sell shares, but he is making the company look bad. That doesn't add up. The only logical conclusion is he wants the shares to be as cheap as possible. Why did he start so recently with the depression? (He will say because the announcement was so vague. The answer is because the announcement contained information that we will soon be on an exchange. He read the announcement, noticed we have sample chips, noticed Ken is optimistic about our future and noticed that shares will probably go up sooner or later. Might as well get them now.)
This is not a charity, you guys don't have to look out for other investors when it comes to price manipulation. If you see it, just take advantage of it. As long as someone isn't scamming other investors openly then I don't think we should worry about people trying to spread FUD to manipulate price. Just sit back and take advantage of it, there's more to gain in it and most of you guys rub me as being the greedy type.
This is not a charity, you guys don't have to look out for other investors when it comes to price manipulation. If you see it, just take advantage of it. As long as someone isn't scamming other investors openly then I don't think we should worry about people trying to spread FUD to manipulate price. Just sit back and take advantage of it, there's more to gain in it and most of you guys rub me as being the greedy type.
December 05, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
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As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
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As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
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Speak for yourself -- i'm bidding in incognito-stealth mode, a premium account option on CriptoTrade. In incognito-stealth mode, no one can see my bids. Not even the sellers
December 05, 2013, 08:00:07 PM
I can argue for hours on why it's crazy to sell below .001. I can argue this until I'm blue in the face. And I believe most of us will be holding tight, however the problem is there are no buyers. This isn't the BTCT days any longer. Bitfunder has lost everyones trust. The only reason why we had such good share prices on BTCT was because everyone was piggy backing off the popularity of ASICMINER. That was 99% of BTCT and BF volume and a lot of the cash poured out onto us.
As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.
As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.
Fortunately Crypto-Trade is also an exchange so people will have BTC on their already, might see some new faces get involved.
Yes but do we expect people to go out of their way to put trust into Cryptotrade (Which they don't have to unless they already have AcTm shares) and buy shares in a company that is so tight lipped? I have to agree with VE on this one. It's also why I thought it was so pointless Ken kept updating us on our exchange situation but never on our mining situation for the last month.
There is a chance shares will drop to Below .001 (If they do I can let you guys know I will be buying some) and there is a chance albeit a slimmer one that prices will rise to above .005 which if they do I will be holding until a price drop to buy more or for the price to hit .01 so I can pull out my initial investment.
December 05, 2013, 07:56:58 PM
Full scale production?
Did Ken tell you something? Have you seen the chips? Have you seen the assembly facility?
What evidence do you have that "we" are close to full scale production?
Did Ken tell you something? Have you seen the chips? Have you seen the assembly facility?
What evidence do you have that "we" are close to full scale production?
The big difference this time is that we've never been as close to full scale production as we are right now and each time there's a further development, share price gets a boost.
Lorenzo I can't sit idly by any longer while you repeatedly cast doubt on regulars here and the companies situation.
You have not been here for the past 2months so you really don't seem to know what you are talking about. Maybe you could be a bit more humble rather than coming on here, making a big entrance and proceeding to criticise people when they state the obvious based on the facts we know.
Have you even read the latest Official News release? We have already shipped miners to customers. Do you know the time scales involved between sample chips being supplied and full batch production? And do you know when we received the sample chips?
TBH your posts seem to me to be more concerned with you creating the impression of your own greatness rather than you enquiring into things.
December 05, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
I can argue for hours on why it's crazy to sell below .001. I can argue this until I'm blue in the face. And I believe most of us will be holding tight, however the problem is there are no buyers. This isn't the BTCT days any longer. Bitfunder has lost everyones trust. The only reason why we had such good share prices on BTCT was because everyone was piggy backing off the popularity of ASICMINER. That was 99% of BTCT and BF volume and a lot of the cash poured out onto us.
As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.
As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.
Fortunately Crypto-Trade is also an exchange so people will have BTC on their already, might see some new faces get involved.
December 05, 2013, 07:50:54 PM
I can argue for hours on why it's crazy to sell below .001. I can argue this until I'm blue in the face. And I believe most of us will be holding tight, however the problem is there are no buyers. This isn't the BTCT days any longer. Bitfunder has lost everyones trust. The only reason why we had such good share prices on BTCT was because everyone was piggy backing off the popularity of ASICMINER. That was 99% of BTCT and BF volume and a lot of the cash poured out onto us.
As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.
As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.
The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.
December 05, 2013, 07:48:26 PM
i have creat an account with the same name and email at the CT, but i did not find my actm shares?? when we can get the shares??
They were going to make an account for you. If you check the order book on CT you will notice, no one has shares. We don't have an answer for you yet. I'm sorry.
December 05, 2013, 07:47:10 PM
No one has the right to complain about not seen information not reaching them. All you have to do is check Ken's lasts post once a week. He does like 5 Posts a week tops, you don't even have to visit this forum. This is purely for Discussion with Ken and other Investors.
December 05, 2013, 07:47:05 PM
Full scale production?
Did Ken tell you something? Have you seen the chips? Have you seen the assembly facility?
What evidence do you have that "we" are close to full scale production?
Did Ken tell you something? Have you seen the chips? Have you seen the assembly facility?
What evidence do you have that "we" are close to full scale production?
The big difference this time is that we've never been as close to full scale production as we are right now and each time there's a further development, share price gets a boost.
I didn't say we are close to full scale production. Before you decide to jump down my throat like that again might I suggest you read my posts more carefully.
December 05, 2013, 07:41:51 PM
You would have to be in need of money or ill-informed to sell at anything below 0.01
The company is well on its way now and the CEO is predicting 40Mill sales in the first year and one of the largest if not the largest mining farm anywhere. NB - He has no need to hype that prediction as there are no new shares on offer. Ken has nothing whatsoever to gain by over-estimating his predicted sales figures.
You need to do a calculation and involve divs in that maths. You could be selling your shares for a price that you would earn in divs alone in 4,5 or 6 months.
So you could sell now for 0.0025 or hold to make that in divs by April. So come April you will have your 0.0025 per share and you still hold the shares.
The company is well on its way now and the CEO is predicting 40Mill sales in the first year and one of the largest if not the largest mining farm anywhere. NB - He has no need to hype that prediction as there are no new shares on offer. Ken has nothing whatsoever to gain by over-estimating his predicted sales figures.
You need to do a calculation and involve divs in that maths. You could be selling your shares for a price that you would earn in divs alone in 4,5 or 6 months.
So you could sell now for 0.0025 or hold to make that in divs by April. So come April you will have your 0.0025 per share and you still hold the shares.
December 05, 2013, 07:40:27 PM
Has anyone spoken to Ukyo? If so, is he still anticipating having the site back up today?
December 05, 2013, 07:38:14 PM
It received a boost when there was actual trading going on. Now it's anyone's guess what happens. Either people are going to sit back and hold, or they are going to run towards the exit.
December 05, 2013, 07:31:55 PM
The big difference this time is that we've never been as close to full scale production as we are right now and each time there's a further development, share price gets a boost.
December 05, 2013, 07:22:48 PM
My prediction for when the trading starts:
Zero Volume.
Nobody wants to sell below .001
and nobody wants to buy above it
stale mate trading!
Zero Volume.
Nobody wants to sell below .001
and nobody wants to buy above it
stale mate trading!
December 05, 2013, 07:20:49 PM
i have creat an account with the same name and email at the CT, but i did not find my actm shares?? when we can get the shares??
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3841034
December 05, 2013, 07:13:54 PM
i have creat an account with the same name and email at the CT, but i did not find my actm shares?? when we can get the shares??
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3841034 December 05, 2013, 07:10:53 PM
i have creat an account with the same name and email at the CT, but i did not find my actm shares?? when we can get the shares??
December 05, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
none of these are completely incorrect. there's more than 1 way to say something and I don't really see any grammar problems here. I think you guys are just getting irritable like I am. Go jerk off or something and come back with a clean mind
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