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Quote from: kroy101 on November 19, 2013, 06:25:16 AM

Regarding Ken giving back our shares from Bitfunder

How will we prove the shares are ours after Bitfunders total shutdown on December the 15th? All I have is a screenshot (Photoshop anyone?) relating my Bitfunder user name and the shares I transfered to AMC-TENDER.

My public bitcoin adress is my wallet adress. Not a Coinbase web-wallet address "where I can sign in from", wich I don't even know what exactly means. Should I open a web-wallet and change my public bitcoin adress in Bitfunder for that one? wouldn't that make things worse?

I can't really see how Ken will relate wallet addresses with transfered shares, or how we can prove that after Bitfunder's shutdown, and how we will then prove those wallet addresses are ours.

Sorry if this has been discused before, but I thought it could be a balsam for many of us to shed some light on this matter instead of the constant speculation based on wishful thinking and trollist pesimism that has taken on this thread.

thank you

When Ken receives the shares, he also has a log of the Bitfunder name and Address that they were tied to.

When you go to "Claim" your shares you will likely just have to sign a message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oxM9_OCQKM

It's a very easy process, some web wallets make it even easier to sign but honestly just follow the youtube video.

Even if you mess up for whatever reason, your shares are still attached to that wallet, dividends will go to that wallet until you do submit a signed message that is correct.

There's nothing to worry about.

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Anyone from ActiveMining willing to help me recover my shares? They have dissapeared from bitfunder account, maybe they were transferred automatically. My username on bitfunder is xenonshop, my bitcoin address: 1CCEBxW6bW3deEQjoiTuVxn3PKNTv24ngj

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Quote from: JoTheKhan on November 19, 2013, 07:32:01 AM

Quote from: crumbs on November 19, 2013, 07:28:11 AM

Quote from: kroy101 on November 19, 2013, 06:25:16 AM

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I can't really see how Ken will relate wallet addresses with transfered shares, or how we can prove that after Bitfunder's shutdown, and how we will then prove those wallet addresses are ours.
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It's very scientific and complicated, but Ken's on top of it. Besides, it's under The NDA just like everything else, so if you talk about it, you mess up all the science and make FUD instead. You just gotta believe Angry

Quote from: minerpart on November 19, 2013, 06:46:11 AM

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Yes all you have on here are Trolls and the 'speculator wishful thinking types'. As you've just kind of insulted both groups who do you think is going to answer your question?

Kroy101 has no use for answers from trolls or investors in denial. He seeks rational, concise, authoritative answers, which i am glad to provide.

Hmm.. "rational, concise, authoritative answers". Then why didn't you answer him with "By signing a message with your BTC address" instead of some "NDA mumble jumbo"you rambled on about?

I will not be baited into revealing the powerful science behind Ken's expert bookkeepings. You hoi palloi can't handle The Truth, and can't be trusted. Take it on trust: Ken's got it all under control.

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Quote from: crumbs on November 19, 2013, 07:28:11 AM

Quote from: kroy101 on November 19, 2013, 06:25:16 AM

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I can't really see how Ken will relate wallet addresses with transfered shares, or how we can prove that after Bitfunder's shutdown, and how we will then prove those wallet addresses are ours.
...

It's very scientific and complicated, but Ken's on top of it. Besides, it's under The NDA just like everything else, so if you talk about it, you mess up all the science and make FUD instead. You just gotta believe Angry

Quote from: minerpart on November 19, 2013, 06:46:11 AM

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Yes all you have on here are Trolls and the 'speculator wishful thinking types'. As you've just kind of insulted both groups who do you think is going to answer your question?

Kroy101 has no use for answers from trolls or investors in denial. He seeks rational, concise, authoritative answers, which i am glad to provide.

Hmm.. "rational, concise, authoritative answers". Then why didn't you answer him with "By signing a message with your BTC address" instead of some "NDA mumble jumbo"you rambled on about?

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Quote from: kroy101 on November 19, 2013, 06:25:16 AM

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I can't really see how Ken will relate wallet addresses with transfered shares, or how we can prove that after Bitfunder's shutdown, and how we will then prove those wallet addresses are ours.
...

It's very scientific and complicated, but Ken's on top of it. Besides, it's under The NDA just like everything else, so if you talk about it, you mess up all the science and make FUD instead. You just gotta believe Angry

Quote from: minerpart on November 19, 2013, 06:46:11 AM

...
Yes all you have on here are Trolls and the 'speculator wishful thinking types'. As you've just kind of insulted both groups who do you think is going to answer your question?

Kroy101 has no use for answers from trolls or investors in denial. He seeks rational, concise, authoritative answers, which i am glad to provide.

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Quote from: kroy101 on November 19, 2013, 06:25:16 AM

...My public bitcoin adress is my wallet adress. ...

So you have bitcoin-qt installed ?
Go to the receive tab and search for your public address and click it.
Do you see the sign message button at the bottom of the window?
Google is your friend: https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+sign+a+message

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Quote from: kroy101 on November 19, 2013, 06:25:16 AM

Sorry if this has been discused before, but I thought it could be a balsam for many of us to shed some light on this matter instead of the constant speculation based on wishful thinking and trollist pesimism that has taken on this thread.

Yes all you have on here are Trolls and the 'speculator wishful thinking types'. As you've just kind of insulted both groups who do you think is going to answer your question?

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Quote from: JoTheKhan on November 19, 2013, 06:12:54 AM

Quote from: Matt_S on November 19, 2013, 06:05:02 AM

I can somewhat understand where DTS is coming from.. From his point of view, at any one point of the day he is possibly around the corner from retirement.
It has to be a somewhat emotional feeling

That's all well and good but he is on here everyday whining. If you can see his point of view then why are you not on here whining everyday? It's because you have some self control. He needs to learn that no one here can do anything to speed up the process or help this company succeed other than Ken. And Ken is most likely not reading all these complaints. The best thing DTS can do a long with the rest of us is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Not scream "This is never gonna succeed" while hoping for it to succeed. He just needs to relax, it's almost Thanksgiving, go spend some time with your family DTS and relax, you'll know soon enough whether or not this company is going to make you rich as all fuck soon enough. We all waited months, what's a couple more weeks at most?

Ken reads every post in this forum.

two more weeks (copyright BFL)

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Regarding Ken giving back our shares from Bitfunder

How will we prove the shares are ours after Bitfunders total shutdown on December the 15th? All I have is a screenshot (Photoshop anyone?) relating my Bitfunder user name and the shares I transfered to AMC-TENDER.

My public bitcoin adress is my wallet adress. Not a Coinbase web-wallet address "where I can sign in from", wich I don't even know what exactly means. Should I open a web-wallet and change my public bitcoin adress in Bitfunder for that one? wouldn't that make things worse?

I can't really see how Ken will relate wallet addresses with transfered shares, or how we can prove that after Bitfunder's shutdown, and how we will then prove those wallet addresses are ours.

Sorry if this has been discused before, but I thought it could be a balsam for many of us to shed some light on this matter instead of the constant speculation based on wishful thinking and trollist pesimism that has taken on this thread.

thank you

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Quote from: JoTheKhan on November 19, 2013, 06:12:54 AM

Quote from: Matt_S on November 19, 2013, 06:05:02 AM

I can somewhat understand where DTS is coming from.. From his point of view, at any one point of the day he is possibly around the corner from retirement.
It has to be a somewhat emotional feeling

That's all well and good but he is on here everyday whining. If you can see his point of view then why are you not on here whining everyday? It's because you have some self control. He needs to learn that no one here can do anything to speed up the process or help this company succeed other than Ken. And Ken is most likely not reading all these complaints. The best thing DTS can do a long with the rest of us is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Not scream "This is never gonna succeed" while hoping for it to succeed. He just needs to relax, it's almost Thanksgiving, go spend some time with your family DTS and relax, you'll know soon enough whether or not this company is going to make you rich as all fuck soon enough. We all waited months, what's a couple more weeks at most?

This is true.

In addition I have decided to stop freaking out about the price increases. If Ken reinvests 50% of mining revenue (He should do this!) and bitcoins are 10 times the value they were a few months ago, then almost for free we have 10 times the fiat money to buy more chips and compound our hashing ability. Hell with 50% reinvestment and Bitcoin over $1,000 we will end up with enough money to start designing cutting edge chips and perhaps have enough money to lead the world in mining.

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Quote from: Matt_S on November 19, 2013, 06:05:02 AM

I can somewhat understand where DTS is coming from.. From his point of view, at any one point of the day he is possibly around the corner from retirement.
It has to be a somewhat emotional feeling

That's all well and good but he is on here everyday whining. If you can see his point of view then why are you not on here whining everyday? It's because you have some self control. He needs to learn that no one here can do anything to speed up the process or help this company succeed other than Ken. And Ken is most likely not reading all these complaints. The best thing DTS can do a long with the rest of us is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Not scream "This is never gonna succeed" while hoping for it to succeed. He just needs to relax, it's almost Thanksgiving, go spend some time with your family DTS and relax, you'll know soon enough whether or not this company is going to make you rich as all fuck soon enough. We all waited months, what's a couple more weeks at most?

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I can somewhat understand where DTS is coming from.. From his point of view, at any one point of the day he is possibly around the corner from retirement.
It has to be a somewhat emotional feeling

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Quote from: iSnow on November 19, 2013, 05:54:30 AM

Quote from: drawingthesun on November 19, 2013, 05:40:14 AM

I know. I am doing my best to occupy myself with other things.

No, you are doing your best to bitch and moan over this whole fucking thread.

Sorry if I am a bit upset, but this place needs a counterbalance to the overly optimistic shareholders shouting that we are all going to be rich soon when all we have is a small 1TH/s mining farm and nothing else.

A bit of reality will do us good.

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Quote from: drawingthesun on November 19, 2013, 05:40:14 AM

I know. I am doing my best to occupy myself with other things.

No, you are doing your best to bitch and moan over this whole fucking thread.

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Quote from: TaaviK on November 19, 2013, 05:26:00 AM

It's hurting you. Don't let it!

I know. I am doing my best to occupy myself with other things.

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Quote from: drawingthesun on November 19, 2013, 05:11:38 AM

Well spotted, I now have blockchain loaded up and refresh, refresh, refresh...

I have been looking at this thread with one eye open. You need to let go. Otherwise it will eat you up. In the end ActM could deliver but you'll never get back the worry and anxiety that went into it. It's hurting you. Don't let it!

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Quote from: drawingthesun on November 19, 2013, 05:06:00 AM

Quote from: JoTheKhan on November 19, 2013, 04:52:35 AM

Maybe Ken started taking half the Divs starting at that point for reinvestment.

What I meant was those 0.25 payments are the same amount as the 0.5 payments. If Ken took half, those 0.25 payments would be half as frequent.

I think Ken is taking half the eASIC miner amounts as reinvestment.

Oh I see what you mean. That is weird but it doesn't seem to be a bad thing.

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Quote from: chairforce1 on November 19, 2013, 05:08:58 AM

Quote from: drawingthesun on November 19, 2013, 04:44:19 AM

The prototype payments...we have not had one for ages, perhaps the prototype is unstable?

I see one having occurred on the 3rd of November and the next occurring eight days later on the 11th. Eight days from the 11th would be today, so if the trend were to stay linear the next larger payment would be today.

Disclaimer: I just woke up lol

Well spotted, I now have blockchain loaded up and refresh, refresh, refresh...

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Quote from: drawingthesun on November 19, 2013, 04:44:19 AM

The prototype payments...we have not had one for ages, perhaps the prototype is unstable?

I see one having occurred on the 3rd of November and the next occurring eight days later on the 11th. Eight days from the 11th would be today, so if the trend were to stay linear the next larger payment would be today.

Disclaimer: I just woke up lol

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Quote from: JoTheKhan on November 19, 2013, 04:52:35 AM

Maybe Ken started taking half the Divs starting at that point for reinvestment.

What I meant was those 0.25 payments are the same amount as the 0.5 payments. If Ken took half, those 0.25 payments would be half as frequent.

I think Ken is taking half the eASIC miner amounts as reinvestment.

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