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legendary
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Can't believe Ukyo has the nerve to be posting this while he is scamming people out of millions of dollars. Scumbag of the year award.
sr. member
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Ken seems to think that because he's scamming US customers with a foreign registered company he's going to get away with it.  We don't need to travel to Belize to sue you.  We'll do it in your own backyard.
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I will explain it to you, a corporation has a lien on its shares for any sums owed by a shareholder, so we have a lien on your shares.  You are the owner of Bitfunder and the funds where on Bitfunder.  Because they where transferred to WeEx in a contract that you had with them does not relieve you of your obligation to pay us our funds.  Also, 38 BTC was left on Bitfunder and I have screenshots of it being there.  I did not authorize it to be transferred to WeEx.

Also from PM:
Just to give you a fair warning, there are a lot of laws in the us about disclosing customer information.

Good luck going to Belize to sue us.

I will explain it to you, a corporation has a lien on its shares for any sums owed by a shareholder, so we have a lien on your shares.  You are the owner of Bitfunder and the funds where on Bitfunder.  Because they where transferred to WeEx in a contract that you had with them does not relieve you of your obligation to pay us our funds.  Also, 38 BTC was left on Bitfunder and I have screenshots of it being there.  I did not authorize it to be transferred to WeEx.

The shares have a lien on them.  You are hereby notified that if the ~100 BTC is not paid in the next 10 days, we will sell your shares to the public to satisfy your debt to the company.  Should the shares not satisfy your debt to the company you will still be liable for the remaining debt.  Any amouts over the debt will be disperse to you less any cost of the sale.

I appreciate your 'good luck to sue us'. That's a real show of character.
I suggest all shareholders take heed of this warning.
What is wrong with posting your history? Are you afraid of something? You seem pretty concerned if your willing to make threats over it.

Notice was given 45 days before the transfer from BitFunder to WeExchange.
The site was shutting down and it was known to you that the only method of bitcoin transfer is via WeExchange which you accepted and used.

You should have no funds left on BitFunder. Any account that was properly linked (Which would be the ActM official account) had its full balance transferred. I think everyone is well aware that only a few people who had linking issues with weex have a small stuck balance.

How is it you have an account with 38btc that is not ActM that you are linking into this?
How many more accounts exactly did you create for trading on BitFunder than the handful I know of?
I suppose I will have to do a more in depth search on all of you ip addresses, linked accounts and addresses.
Why have you not claimed or reported this stuck 38btc prior?
You have not mentioned the 6% claimed from the portal yet either and subtracted that.

In the end, your argument is that I owe you XXX btc personally.
If your argument holds up then that means you are not the only debtor.
If this was the case, as someone mentioned prior, any funds of mine would need to be proportionally distributed.
This is not a mechanics lien.  You did not do work or provide services. You do not have first right to the funds.
Also I see you are not including "legal costs" of unspecified amounts into what you plan to take from any proceeds.
It sounds like no matter what, your intention it to keep 100% for your personal issues.

And just because you are CEO of a company does not mean you can abuse that authority on behalf of your own personal
problems and desires.

So to be clear, you are using your position as CEO of a company to force a sale of a shareholders shares to ensure your personal BTC losses are covered before other debtors can claim their portion when you have absolutely no evidence to show that the shareholder has directly owes you anything.

You do understand the difference between a corporation and an individual?
I hope you have this same understanding with accounting practices and funds.

WeExchange has a debt to many individuals and not just you.

Again, why the sudden rush and need to sell the shares? Why can't they just be locked worst case scenario?
You seem desperate. Why? I figure it will take you at least 2~3 more months to finish buying back ActM shares.
Why the need for threats? What is it you are so afraid of?

I bet people would love to see the complete shareholder listing as it stands. Would probably be more interesting
if ownership names could be included / proven.

Also, for a lien you must file something, somewhere with a valid reason and provide notification to the person you are filing against.
Normally, unless it is a mechanics lien, you file a lien against a person or entity.

I think you need to talk to your Belize lawyers and not whatever lawyer gave you a book quote rather than an official statutory listing.
(Personally, I would fire that lawyer and hire a new one.)

I found your link very interesting though. How about linking some documentation regarding Belize Corporate law instead?
Unless this is a confession that you are operating as a Indian entity and these are shares of an Indian entity?
You do realize that book is about Corporate laws in India... right? Your lawyer must be short on time and not taken notice.
Next time you are gasping at straws, you should check the first few chapters for relevance and stop trying to mislead people.

(For those of you who are curious, start with page 2. Definition of a company regarding the Companies Act of 1956. (India) and
the following line of "a company formed and registered under previous Company Laws in India."
I am going to go out of my way to say that you have had absolutely zero legal advice and are acting solely based on random google searches
and relying on "Well let him try something." rather than doing things properly.
I truly hope for those who have invested into ActM that you run your business better than this.

Please stop being inconsistent and show people if you actually have an understanding of the things you are talking about.
It's almost like you are purposefully misleading people.

(For anyone curious, feel free to call a US corporate lawyer for a free consultation and ask about shareholder rights and liens.)
Then again, that's US law, not Brazilian.

I response to your unofficial "notice of lien" hereby request that you post the contact information for your corporate Belize lawyers or PM it to me so I can contact them to make arrangements so this can be handled properly and officially. I will make sure that any documents are released to the public so they are fully aware of the situation.

Please keep in mind that your professional manner in handling this situation dictates how you will and ActM will be viewed going forward.
As a ActM shareholder and I am sure many others agree, if ActM is to succeed, it must act properly and not arbitrarily or expose the
company to unnecessary risks.

Stop acting so desperate and do things right.

Thank You,
Ukyo
newbie
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I don't get how it's suddenly ACTM's responsibility to pay back WeEx/BF opaque malfeasance.

Agreed!

We must only sell 106 btc worth of shares of cover ActM owed money. Once the company is square we must return the leftover shares to UKYO so he can deal with everyone else. It's criminal to take ALL of UKYO's shares and sell all of them, his debts are not our issue.

I am only defending UKYO to this point because it's the right thing to do. UKYO slammed me down in front of everyone when I was among some of the first people to call out the possibility that UKYO would be unable to pay the funds from Bitfunder because he probably used them and was running a fractional reserve. I was correct but UKYO still attacked me so I am not defending him because of friendship, but because it's not right to steal his property after ActM is square with the owed 106 btc.

Ken please don't go down this rabbit hole, get the 106 btc and leave it at that. Please.

We just want the BTC that is owed us plus any legal fees and cost.  Active Mining has a lien on the shares per Corporation law.

Ken, how many shares @.01BTC would it take to cover 106BTC?
Is that number the same as 231962 (current sell orders on Crypto-Trade)?
If not, could you explain why?
sr. member
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We are selling Ukyo shares on Crypto-Trade to recover our losses on Bitfunder.

We will start moving Investors shares to Crypto-Trade within the next 7 days.

I truly hope you have some plans for the following:

a. be able to distribute funds from the sale to weex users in debt.
or
b. explain to a court appointed handler where portions of my assets are.
(As well as explain to other weex users why your debt is more important than theirs)


Also:
What do you plan to do with all remaining funds?
It is no secret that there are plenty of shares to cover your personal accounts 100btc.
Or is the plan to continue to give no information at all, continue without any new information dates
with the last information of any kind about 5 months ago being a broken deadline so cause the prices
of ActM shares to drop so much you can continue to buy them back for pennies on the dollar compared
to what you pumped them to and be able to claim that all the shares I hold are worth less than the 100btc
you are personally having an issue with?

To be clear: I have no issues with 100% of funds from the sale of all ActM Shares assigned to me to be distributed to weex users.
Everyone should be able to see the numbers.

-Ukyo

I will explain it to you, a corporation has a lien on its shares for any sums owed by a shareholder, so we have a lien on your shares.  You are the owner of Bitfunder and the funds where on Bitfunder.  Because they where transferred to WeEx in a contract that you had with them does not relieve you of your obligation to pay us our funds.  Also, 38 BTC was left on Bitfunder and I have screenshots of it being there.  I did not authorize it to be transferred to WeEx.
sr. member
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I don't get how it's suddenly ACTM's responsibility to pay back WeEx/BF opaque malfeasance.

Agreed!

We must only sell 106 btc worth of shares of cover ActM owed money. Once the company is square we must return the leftover shares to UKYO so he can deal with everyone else. It's criminal to take ALL of UKYO's shares and sell all of them, his debts are not our issue.

I am only defending UKYO to this point because it's the right thing to do. UKYO slammed me down in front of everyone when I was among some of the first people to call out the possibility that UKYO would be unable to pay the funds from Bitfunder because he probably used them and was running a fractional reserve. I was correct but UKYO still attacked me so I am not defending him because of friendship, but because it's not right to steal his property after ActM is square with the owed 106 btc.

Ken please don't go down this rabbit hole, get the 106 btc and leave it at that. Please.

We just want the BTC that is owed us plus any legal fees and cost.  Active Mining has a lien on the shares per Corporation law.
sr. member
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Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
lol wow i wonder what Thumper650/Crumbs had to say...........Wait I cant see it since he is on ignore.....LoL

I love putting trolls on ignore
legendary
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I truly hope you have some plans for the following:

a. be able to distribute funds from the sale to weex users in debt.
or
b. explain to a court appointed handler where portions of my assets are.
(As well as explain to other weex users why your debt is more important than theirs)

I think youre correct here ukyo. Regardless if the 106BTC owned are ActM-Funds or Ken's private funds. He cant simply sell them because the shares belong to a private person not weexchange. As long as ken cant proof that ukyo is personally liable he cant sell them because weexchange is in debt. Its a legal risk he takes. It would b different if ukyo personally is in debt because then it would be legal i believe.

On top this sell means lowering the shareprice for all shareholders.

If the shares are owned by weexchange it would be legal too. It would be luck for the person that has something that belongs to weexchange. Though it would be unfortunate for all other weexchange victims. The shares would belong to the company and not to a specific person then.

This has been gone over ad nauseam please let it die. Ken holds Uyko's property and Uyko holds Ken's 106BTC… Now unless Ukyo pays this back then Ken can and should sell off enough of Uyko's shares as lien to recover lost funds. Whatever outstanding debts Uyko and Co. have are his responsibility, no one else's.


Besides this is not for any of us to decide as I'm sure Ken has consulted with his lawyers and made his decision… let it go.

Please dont ask me to stop speaking and then post im wrong.

You got my text wrong. It doesnt matter that ukyo owns weexchange. They are different entities by law. Or do you think, if the CEO of Apple owns you 2 Million USD that you are allowed to take away IPhones in the worth of 2Million USD from Apple, sell it for your own gain and everything is fine? No, that would be plain theft because the company has nothing to do with the CEO by law.

Feel free to respond... im not allergic to discussions.

By the way... im a big shareholder of ActM. I dont see that its needed so hard that ActM gets 106BTC now and that the shareprice has to drop for this artificially.
newbie
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You promised that you put me on ignore.  Another lie.
I wouldn't trust Ken if he told me the sun was going to come up tomorrow, but sure, get him to publicly vouch for you, i'm waiting Smiley
I said i was about to start putting a bunch of people on ignore.
But since you want me to put you on ignore then fine I will put you on ignore as soon as i post this msg

I take it Ken won't vouch for you then?  And another lie Smiley

Active Mining supporters are that embarrassing friend that "sticks up for you."  Telling him to fuqoff is cruel, but enduring him is pretty unbearable too.
I know I shouldn't, but at times I feel sorry for Ken.

So much fail in this thread Undecided

sr. member
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Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
( Starts singing "Another one bites the Dust" by Queen ) After putting Thumper650 on Ignore
sr. member
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Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
Umm me and Zum are not the same person, I am an Actual Real live human being from the state of Florida. I am not sure where Zum is from but we are not one in the same.

Ken can vouch for that


I have interviewed Him and speak with him on a regular basis.

You promised that you put me on ignore.  Another lie.
I wouldn't trust Ken if he told me the sun was going to come up tomorrow, but sure, get him to publicly vouch for you, i'm waiting Smiley
I said i was about to start putting a bunch of people on ignore.
But since you want me to put you on ignore then fine I will put you on ignore as soon as i post this msg
sr. member
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Umm me and Zum are not the same person, I am an Actual Real live human being from the state of Florida. I am not sure where Zum is from but we are not one in the same.

Ken can vouch for that


I have interviewed Him and speak with him on a regular basis.
newbie
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This will be the final time I ever reply to you crumbs.

You think you are so fucking clever.  Those quotes were far from unintentional slips but quite deliberate.  Reference the specific language intentionally spoon feeding those who like to play Clouseau. Unlike yourself, I have no need or desire to waste my life in the Newbies Section and hide behind proxys and create new email addresses every other day.  That process must be as much a pain in the arse as you are.  What a sad, sad existence you lead.  You even stalk people on IRC and then come running back In here to post random sections of dialogue with no relevance whatsoever and add smileys.  I mean what the fuck is that all about, lol?

It's the reCAPTCHA button your press over and over on webchat.freenode.net and that was the pun you imbecile.  Just get a life and stop being such a loser, you were even trying to correct someone's spelling today and insult them on their grammar.  

There, that's off my chest and I feel much better.  I will immediately place crumbs on ignore now and promise to never unignore him or take his bait ever again.  Smiley





My hats off to you Zum I feel the same way about Thumper A.K.A Crumbs
I am so sick and tired of all the Trolls and naysayers on this thread that i am about to start putting massive amounts of people on ignore here shortly

Egads.  And then it starts agreeing with itself...  And patting itself on its back...  Eewww~!
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
Heading out to miami.  If anyone wants to know anything specific abiut the confrence while I'm there let me know.

Be sure to install the BTC Miami app on your phone Jasun and have a great time! I would do anything to be there and get out of this Scottish weather at the moment.
sr. member
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and crumbs before you start in on calling me a Troll if you Look I did Post that i had the Info before Ken Posted it and so how can i be a troll
sr. member
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This will be the final time I ever reply to you crumbs.

You think you are so fucking clever.  Those quotes were far from unintentional slips but quite deliberate.  Reference the specific language intentionally spoon feeding those who like to play Clouseau. Unlike yourself, I have no need or desire to waste my life in the Newbies Section and hide behind proxys and create new email addresses every other day.  That process must be as much a pain in the arse as you are.  What a sad, sad existence you lead.  You even stalk people on IRC and then come running back In here to post random sections of dialogue with no relevance whatsoever and add smileys.  I mean what the fuck is that all about, lol?

It's the reCAPTCHA button your press over and over on webchat.freenode.net and that was the pun you imbecile.  Just get a life and stop being such a loser, you were even trying to correct someone's spelling today and insult them on their grammar. 

There, that's off my chest and I feel much better.  I will immediately place crumbs on ignore now and promise to never unignore him or take his bait ever again.  Smiley





My hats off to you Zum I feel the same way about Thumper A.K.A Crumbs
I am so sick and tired of all the Trolls and naysayers on this thread that i am about to start putting massive amounts of people on ignore here shortly
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
@Zum you are right, after checking your recent post history; I have grouped you with Miner in the group who has recently made wild speculations that have to do with 5x/10x BTC prices to keep the business afloat (this doesn't mean I am biased against what he post). I sincerely apologize.

I can understand that you think BTC will hit 10k, hell. I hope it hits 10k or 20k or 100k, but those are outside the realm of smart investing right now and I'm glad you can see why I think speculating like that is hurting this company. We need to be profitable with the possibility that BTC stays at $800 throughout the entire year).

BTW: Criticism isn't bad as long as it is constructive.

Jo, I appreciate you taking the time to post this.  Thanks and I will make more of an effort to embrace constructive criticism while continuing to challenge those who mope around dragging a black cloud with them.
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
This will be the final time I ever reply to you crumbs.

You think you are so fucking clever.  Those quotes were far from unintentional slips but quite deliberate.  Reference the specific language intentionally spoon feeding those who like to play Clouseau. Unlike yourself, I have no need or desire to waste my life in the Newbies Section and hide behind proxys and create new email addresses every other day.  That process must be as much a pain in the arse as you are.  What a sad, sad existence you lead.  You even stalk people on IRC and then come running back In here to post random sections of dialogue with no relevance whatsoever and add smileys.  I mean what the fuck is that all about, lol?

It's the reCAPTCHA button your press over and over on webchat.freenode.net and that was the pun you imbecile.  Just get a life and stop being such a loser, you were even trying to correct someone's spelling today and insult them on their grammar.  

There, that's off my chest and I feel much better.  I will immediately place crumbs on ignore now and promise to never unignore him or take his bait ever again when he uses other accounts Smiley

By the way, I sat and watched as crumbs voted 10 times in succession using all of his accounts in the recent poll I set up.  He voted for Crypto-Trade on every occasion.  Wink  There you go cuntybaws, whose the clever one now?


newbie
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Kindly address myself as me and not 'you guys' and do not confuse me with anyone else on this thread...

ORLY? Cheesy Cheesy

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Any chance the reCAPTCHA can be made accessible for humans? What a joke!

#ActiveMining

Don't do what I did though. My God, the reCAPTCHA is unbelievably hard if you are a human!  Good luck buddie.

*The word you were looking for is "captcha," "Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart" Smiley
Fail!

Of course, you're also a bunch of other accounts, but I'll start with the obvious.

BTW, do you prefer fannybaws, zumzero or???
sr. member
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Heading out to miami.  If anyone wants to know anything specific abiut the confrence while I'm there let me know.
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